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I've RESEARCHED, and found no answers. I think it's bricked

Hello to all, I am a noob here and have tried to adhere to all of the demands to do research and not post ?'s, but I am at a wall.
I have a Tilt and I ran the sim unlock and I was using the Sleuth 3.0 on it. Everything was working fine. I added the Iunlock cab and it worked fine as well. I then tried to install the icontacts, but i would have to go to program files and icontacts file in order to use I contacts. Well, wanna be innovative me thinks to try and move that file so it would replace something. I copied it to the windows appbuttons folder and deleted the regular contacts and nothing happened, then I put it in the start up folder and no luck, then I simply copied it to the windows folder not at the bottom where all of the extra files are. After that I tried to reset it and now all that I get is the bootloader screen. it reads as follows:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.Olipof
CPLD-8
At the bottom, it shows either USB or Serial depending on if the usb is plugges up.
I tried running the sim unlock again and the dutty rom and both load to 100% but it goes back to the same screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please help and thank you so much.

barrnunn said:
Hello to all, I am a noob here and have tried to adhere to all of the demands to do research and not post ?'s, but I am at a wall.
I have a Tilt and I ran the sim unlock and I was using the Sleuth 3.0 on it. Everything was working fine. I added the Iunlock cab and it worked fine as well. I then tried to install the icontacts, but i would have to go to program files and icontacts file in order to use I contacts. Well, wanna be innovative me thinks to try and move that file so it would replace something. I copied it to the windows appbuttons folder and deleted the regular contacts and nothing happened, then I put it in the start up folder and no luck, then I simply copied it to the windows folder not at the bottom where all of the extra files are. After that I tried to reset it and now all that I get is the bootloader screen. it reads as follows:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.Olipof
CPLD-8
At the bottom, it shows either USB or Serial depending on if the usb is plugges up.
I tried running the sim unlock again and the dutty rom and both load to 100% but it goes back to the same screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please help and thank you so much.
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You could hard reset if you altered something in WM to cause it not to boot...hopefully

I tried the hard reset and same thing I flashes for a very split second loading and then goes back to the screen.
Hard reset is both item buttons above IE and Mail with soft reset correct?

barrnunn said:
I tried the hard reset and same thing I flashes for a very split second loading and then goes back to the screen.
Hard reset is both item buttons above IE and Mail with soft reset correct?
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Yeah and then you press send...
- well you could try go into the bootloader and flash an OEM original ROM on i do not believe that doing this would brick your kaiser.

zeezee said:
You could hard reset if you altered something in WM to cause it not to boot...hopefully
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In case u dont know how to do it:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Resets

Or else search for MTTY. That helped a lot of ppl who got stuck in boot loader.

barrnunn said:
I tried the hard reset and same thing I flashes for a very split second loading and then goes back to the screen.
Hard reset is both item buttons above IE and Mail with soft reset correct?
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U need to hold the stylus in the hole longer, untl a message pops up on the page.
If it does not hardreset or help u, do what zeezee told u - flash a new rom.

OK, thank you all for you diligent assistance. I have tried the hard reset and it does the same thing...goes to black for about 2 seconds, then for a very split second goes to a grey screen and flashes loading then back to the bootloader.
I will try a search for the people stuck in bootloader and try flashing a OEM ROM, I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again.

barrnunn said:
OK, thank you all for you diligent assistance. I have tried the hard reset and it does the same thing...goes to black for about 2 seconds, then for a very split second goes to a grey screen and flashes loading then back to the bootloader.
I will try a search for the people stuck in bootloader and try flashing a OEM ROM, I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
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Here is a list of OEM ROMs:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs

I do not see any Mods here around or somebody yelling (search button is your friend,search the wiki everything is there, bla bla)To having a woman at home change everything.. Thanks..!

Before you try the dangerous MTTY method, you could try refresh a oem rom w/ the SD method

ok, I am flashing an OEM rom now, but what does it mean to do it with the sd method?

barrnunn said:
ok, I am flashing an OEM rom now, but what does it mean to do it with the sd method?
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From youre sd card (memorycard), look it up in wiki. Moust of us flashaholics keeps oure rom on oure memorycard and just rename the rom/bootsplash/radio or whateva and place it in root then activate bootloader -> flash. This is an alternative for not using usb cable, pc and active sync
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash

ok thanks, but am i correct in understanding that to do that I have to use the phone to access the mem card?
My issue is that the only screen I get is bootloader, no nothing else. I can't even turn it off. I can take the battery out to get a black screen, but any action to try something will take it back to the bootloader screen. But for some reason, it still allows me to flash the ROM, I think. I flash it on my pc and then my phone goes to the grey screen where it shows the % of progress. It reaches 100% and the pc tells me to click finished and I do then it goes back to the bootloader.

barrnunn said:
ok thanks, but am i correct in understanding that to do that I have to use the phone to access the mem card?
My issue is that the only screen I get is bootloader, no nothing else. I can't even turn it off. I can take the battery out to get a black screen, but any action to try something will take it back to the bootloader screen. But for some reason, it still allows me to flash the ROM, I think. I flash it on my pc and then my phone goes to the grey screen where it shows the % of progress. It reaches 100% and the pc tells me to click finished and I do then it goes back to the bootloader.
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put the rom image file on storage card and than power on phone in bootloader. the process will start automatically.

thesire said:
put the rom image file on storage card and than power on phone in bootloader. the process will start automatically.
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yes, just use a card adapter or something to acess youre card (if you cant connect via active sync) then copy the rom over and follow the steps in wiki. Beeing stuck in the bootloader some times aint the worse place to be stuck

korakesion said:
I do not see any Mods here around or somebody yelling (search button is your friend,search the wiki everything is there, bla bla)To having a woman at home change everything.. Thanks..!
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I don't mean to argue with you here and you are right about research threads, but honestly it's easy to get caught up in frustration with the amount of information. Some authors are good at documentation and some skip steps along the way or extra links are in the threads.
I just switched over to Gullum's Diamond Rom and was I nervous upgrading "Yes" and did I read much that I could "Yes". Were the instructions to HardSPL, Jump were a little unclear "Yes" so people asking questions are legit to a degree but we shouldn't also be eagar to pounce on...
tvos

tvos said:
I don't mean to argue with you here and you are right about research threads, but honestly it's easy to get caught up in frustration with the amount of information. Some authors are good at documentation and some skip steps along the way or extra links are in the threads.
I just switched over to Gullum's Diamond Rom and was I nervous upgrading "Yes" and did I read much that I could "Yes". Were the instructions to HardSPL, Jump were a little unclear "Yes" so people asking questions are legit to a degree but we shouldn't also be eagar to pounce on...
tvos
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I agree with some of your remarks. Yes myself and others have jumped down people's throats yelling, "Search." One thing you have to remember though this is a developers forum, not a novice forum to help people making there phone look "cool."
Going into flashing / upgrading / modifying, you have to have a little bit of knowledge or time using Windows Mobile / Windows in General devices and machines.
Usually reading some background information can be a world a difference before jumping into this sort of thing.

I found the problem to stuck in bootloader. Thanks to all who have posted threads.
Originally Posted by GSLEON3
Many of you have noticed that in the past I spent a great deal of time helping people with Kaiser issues. Many of you have asked for help in the last few days & are probably feeling ignored. I am just unavailable at this time. My little sister had a Kidney Transplant operation on June 30th, 2008 & I have been spending much time traveling back & forth between my home in California & her's in Arizona. There were a few complications, but she is now doing well & recovering. I will be spending this weekend & most of next week helping to care for her & will be unavailable still for the next ten days or so.
There are many capable people in the Kaiser forum that will help. If you have hit a wall, be patient & I will begin to answer my PM's in the order they were recieved within the next week. Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment, but family comes first as I'm sure you understand.
Thanks,
GSLEON3
Aboslutely man. You go take care of your family. I will pray for God to guide you all through this trying time.
On the Kaiser note, I found after further studying of some threads, a solution to my issue where I was stuck in bootloader. I think this will apply to anyone that is stuck in bootloader with the usb/serial showing at the bottom and when they try to flash a new rom is goes to 100%, but the are still stuck on the boot screen.
After reading more threads, it appeared that there was some sort of disconnect between the usb and the phone. Since my PC was stating that it was successfully completing the flash, that shows that it was not getting any type of error from the phone. After reading a thread I simply blew in my tilt usb port and used my stylus to try to straighten it out as one of your post state to ensure the usb connection is straightor it may give mtty an issue.
Once I messed with my USB port, the phone came back to life and everything was fine. Everything was rebooted and all my info was lost however. I was even able to successfully flash a new ROM.
In closing, if anyone is stuck in bootloader mode and their flash goes to 100% and doesn't fix their issue, tell them to clean and straighten their usb connection.

Solution for Those Stuck in Bootloader
Here is the link to the initial thread I started for my issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406221
I found after further studying of some threads, a solution to my issue where I was stuck in bootloader. I think this will apply to anyone that is stuck in bootloader with the usb/serial showing at the bottom and when they try to flash a new rom is goes to 100%, but the are still stuck on the boot screen.
After reading more threads, it appeared that there was some sort of disconnect between the usb and the phone. Since my PC was stating that it was successfully completing the flash, that shows that it was not getting any type of error from the phone. After reading a thread I simply blew in my tilt usb port and used my stylus to try to straighten it out as one of your post state to ensure the usb connection is straightor it may give mtty an issue.
Once I messed with my USB port, the phone came back to life and everything was fine. Everything was rebooted and all my info was lost however. I was even able to successfully flash a new ROM.
In closing, if anyone is stuck in bootloader mode and their flash goes to 100% and doesn't fix their issue, tell them to clean and straighten their usb connection.

Technical Think Tank for Bricked G1's

I started this thread as a constructive and positive place for those of us that have recently lost our G1's or ADP's. I am going to document all my settings, Radio version, Firmware, Build info, etc here and hopefully reverse engineer this issue until I have an answer. If anyone has any hardware engineering information on this device it would be greatly appreciated. I'm even willing to host a private forum from my site to work on this.
Thanks everyone for your continued hard work and Haykuro, you're still the man!

-JFv1.43 RC9 firmware (just did this one update, not the radio update)
-1 GB micro SD which was deliverd with the phone
-Google's Developers Edition
-rooted
-sim ulocked
-almost fully loaded about 80 % battery
-everything went fine, the update went fine, restarting, and then no response and always and always the same android screen,
now im trying to crash it by low battery, not by just take the battery out, maybe this'll work (but I dont think so)
don't know anything else

Partioned Fat32/EXT2 1GB SDcard from t-mobile
Flashed RC29 via Bootloader .NBH file
Rooted with RC29
Updated to RC33
Flashed Hard SPL
Flashed JF v1.5 ADP Lucid MOD - did APPs2SD and Dalvik2SD
Flash 2.22.19.26I Radio
Flashed Grafitti Citrus Theme JFv1.50 Beta
Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.
Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL.

I wonder if the Dream responds to goldcards like other HTC phones do...
That's how we fixed our Heralds, which is how the Elf's got their fix, etc.

ivanmmj said:
I wonder if the Dream responds to goldcards like other HTC phones do...
That's how we fixed our Heralds, which is how the Elf's got their fix, etc.
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Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?

d474rpr said:
Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?
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Goldcards as in a specialized SD card

d474rpr said:
Goldcard as in a specialized SIM?
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You convert a SD card into a Goldcard and the phone will read it and allow the phone to flash ANY NBH file, regardless of CID, etc etc.

MosquitoD4K said:
-JFv1.43 RC9 firmware (just did this one update, not the radio update)
-1 GB micro SD which was deliverd with the phone
-Google's Developers Edition
-rooted
-sim ulocked
-almost fully loaded about 80 % battery
-everything went fine, the update went fine, restarting, and then no response and always and always the same android screen,
now im trying to crash it by low battery, not by just take the battery out, maybe this'll work (but I dont think so)
don't know anything else
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This has happened to me many times when I didn't wipe (the PHONE ). Take the battery out, place back in and hold Home + Power to get into menu. Type alt + w to wipe, afterwards, alt + s to apply update.zip from sdcard, then Home+Back to restart. The first time loading, it can take up to ten minutes to get past the Android screen (mine took 7-10 minutes), so be patient.
Post back with any results.

ivanmmj said:
You convert a SD card into a Goldcard and the phone will read it and allow the phone to flash ANY NBH file, regardless of CID, etc etc.
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that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.

One detail, when i flashed the new spl I was doing something else and when i check my phone it back to recovery utility windows itself ,it was in 15 20 minute, after that i reinstalle jf1.5 and all worked ok
what this means. if you are flashing your phone and before these process finishes your take out you battery, you can bricking you phone. take patience and wait.
Good luck
ps:i change the final text for sir*mez
sir*mez said:
that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.
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satru said:
One detail, when i flashed the new spl I was doing something else and when i check my phone it back to recovery utility windows itself ,it was in 15 20 minute, after that i reinstalle jf1.5 and all worked ok
what this means. if you are flashing your phone and before these process finishes your take out you battery, you and only you bricking you phone. take patience and wait.
Good luck
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this happened to the one that bricked.
Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.
Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL. So yes I guess I bricked one phone but a miracle happened with the other one. the one that flashed properly went into the recovery on its own right after the boot, but not in no 15-20 min wait like you said. you sure need to stop the blaming. i am not blaming anyone for my bricked phone, im just trying to find a solution. you are going to get this locked because of the bickering.

hey sir*mes was no my intentions blaming to anyone , i only want to say that all need to give more time to flash before take out the battery. only that.
i will do something for you , i will change the text, happy?
Good luck
sir*mez said:
this happened to the one that bricked.
Flashed H Special SPL with battery at 89% - saw it update, rebooted on its own, saw the chip with the arrow on it and it rebooted. once after that it hanged. I waited 5 minutes and then took the battery out. Got my sdcard reader, renamed the jf v1.5 to update to reflash like instructed. powered the phone with home+power and got nothing but a hang on t-mobile G1 screen.
Both phones were done the same. One phone bricked and one phone flashed the SPL. So yes I guess I bricked one phone but a miracle happened with the other one. the one that flashed properly went into the recovery on its own right after the boot, but not in no 15-20 min wait like you said. you sure need to stop the blaming. i am not blaming anyone im just trying to find a solution. you are going to get this locked because of the bickering.
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sir*mez said:
that wont work i just read the write up. In order for the goldcard to work, the g1 has to go into fastboot, which none of our devices can go into fastboot nor recovery. I even formatted a sdcard to start the process but when i got to the fastboot i was so disappointed.
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So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.

Let me be perfectly clear, those of us with the issue of a bricked device from loading the SPL from Haykuro are experiencing an actual case of being bricked.
Read carefully.
The phone WILL NOT turn on!!!!
We are looking for a solution that runs as far back as actually burning the SPL image directly to the phone's memory. I am even willing to try a hardware to hardware method to accomplish this.
I know the phone is still somewhat responsive because my laptop detects the USB connection to the phone but it will not recognize the device.. obviously because the communication is broken since the phone is dead. The power LED will turn on but only after I remove the battery first. Once I press the POWER key the LED turns off and will not light again until I remove and replace the battery.
Solutions that we are trying:
GoldCard method.
Looks like a couple of us have tried this but since fastboot can't see the device then we can't use this method unless someone knows something super seceret.
Crashing the device by allowing the battery to fully discharge. Unlikely but trying anyway.
Any other ideas?????
Thanks everyone for helping thus far!

neoobs said:
So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.
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I tried it and so far no luck...

neoobs said:
So what harm would it do to try? From what I remember the goldcard on herald was supposed to get us into the bootloader even when we couldn't normally.
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ok but the phone wont go into bootloader. which is what im trying to get it to do. if i get it to bootloader i know i can fix it. even if it went to the recovery i could fix it. but I get nothing.
in order to create a goldcard for the dream it has to read the sdcard off fastboot which i cant get into.

d474rpr said:
Let me be perfectly clear, those of us with the issue of a bricked device from loading the SPL from Haykuro are experiencing an actual case of being bricked.
Read carefully.
The phone WILL NOT turn on!!!!
We are looking for a solution that runs as far back as actually burning the SPL image directly to the phone's memory. I am even willing to try a hardware to hardware method to accomplish this.
I know the phone is still somewhat responsive because my laptop detects the USB connection to the phone but it will not recognize the device.. obviously because the communication is broken since the phone is dead. The power LED will turn on but only after I remove the battery first. Once I press the POWER key the LED turns off and will not light again until I remove and replace the battery.
Solutions that we are trying:
GoldCard method.
Looks like a couple of us have tried this but since fastboot can't see the device then we can't use this method unless someone knows something super seceret.
Crashing the device by allowing the battery to fully discharge. Unlikely but trying anyway.
Any other ideas?????
Thanks everyone for helping thus far!
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Are you saying your screen doesn't turn on?

neoobs said:
Are you saying your screen doesn't turn on?
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No, I'm saying it doesn't turn on.

d474rpr said:
No, I'm saying it doesn't turn on.
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The same happens on Heralds when the imgfs is messed up. To fix it, we force it to go into the bootloader mode and it does turn on. I wonder if it's something similar.

I meantioned in the big main topic an idea though I dont think anyone saw it.
In the past for other phones I was able to make recoveries using the computer while it was in the boot loop.
Anyone with the brick, try to see what happens when you do this:
adb remount
After the "T-Mobile G1" screen shows up. See if it says mount sucessful. I would try though it does not stay on the screen too long for me, not only that it might work for me just because it continues fine so its inconclusive.
If you get lucky and it says remount successful, you could try this:
adb shell recovery
I am not sure of the commands to follow from there, but it might allow you to flash a different update.zip file from the command line. If you get lucky like that, look up the commands and see how that might go. There has to be a way to communicate to the hardware when that screen comes up. Its good that that screen comes up, because it means its not 'fried' so to speak, it just has a misconfigured loader which doesnt have the correct set of instructions (good point about the different types of boards, thats most likely the issue) for THAT board. I would go back to the one that worked previously.

Unbricking mytouch/g1 ( soft bricks only but no harm trying )

I found a site with someone who bricked their phone but found a loop hole. I have never bricked my phone and hoping i never will but for those who have bricked their phone here are some steps to try to unbrick it! HOPE IT HELPS! SEND FEED BACK!!
So you can’t access bootloader or recovery and the only thing that works is the blue led trick when pressing trackball + power button??
Try the procedure below.
Step 1: Turned Phone off by taking out the battery.
Step 2: Prepared SD card
Put SD card in card reader and formatted it as FAT32, copied the DREAIMG.nbh onto it.
Or try Sapphimg.nbh
Step 3: Put SD card back in phone
Step 4: Hold Vol down + Power + track ball together and put battery to start phone
Step 5: Run update
IF THAT DIDNT WORK!
TRY THIS!
Step 1: Turning Off Your Phone
Because you have a bricked phone, you can't just hold the power button. So if your phone is not already off then you're going to want to take out the battery.
Step 2: Preparing Our SD card
Take out your SD card and put it into an SD card reader or some type of other adapter so that we can view it from our computer. If you cannot view the SD card on your computer then you're going to need a new SD card.
Download DREAIMG-RC29.zip and unzip the file.
Reformat the SD card to FAT32 and copy the DREAIMG.nbh onto it.
Safely eject the SD card.
Put the SD card into your device.
Step 3: Wipe The Phone
Hold home and press the power button.
When you see the image of an ! mark, open your keyboard and press Alt + L if you cannot see any command options.
Do a factory reset by pressing Alt + W or just using the trackball.
When the reset is done, go ahead and hold the camera button and select the reboot system now option with your trackball.
Step 4: Flashing The Phone
Once the grey screen pops up (or the white screen if your phone was rooted with JesusFreke) it will ask you to hit a button to start installing the image…press that button. DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO STOP THIS PROCCESS. It will take about 8-12 minutes.
When the image has completed the installation (it will say completed), go ahead and press the green, red, and menu buttons at the same time. The phone will reboot.
And your done! Your phone is now unbricked!.
The G1 screen will hang there for a good minute or two, but be paticiant, it will boot. Now you have a choice. Try to hack your phone again, because you're in the correct state to have another go, or, you can stick with the official Android. Now if you choose to stick with the official Android, here's what you do.
Step 1: Upgrading to Android 1.0 RC33
Download the file signed-PLAT-RC33-from-RC30.zip
Rename the file to update.zip and copy it to your SD card
Reboot your phone into recovery mode. Power off the phone first and then hold down the Home key while powering it back on.
The recovery mode is finished loading when you see the ! mark inside the triangle. Press Alt + L to display the list of options.
Press Alt + S to flash the file update.zip.
Wait for the update to apply. Your phone may reboot during this process so be patient.
Press Home + Back if prompted to reboot your phone.
Step 2: Upgrading to Android 1.5 CRB43
Download the file signed-kila-ota-148830.de6a94ca.zip
Repeat the steps from above to flash the update file.
Step 3: Upgrade to Android 1.5 CRC1
Download the file signed-kila-CRC1-from-CRB43-FIX.7ca4a1d7.zip
Repeat the steps from above to flash the update file.
Step 4: Upgrade to Android 1.6 DRC83
Download the file signed-kila-DRC83-from-CRC1.c41b93c1.zip
Repeat the steps from above to flash the update file.
PM FOR THE DIRECT WEBSITES!

This is a tut for soft bricked devices, nice try. A brick is when your device will NOT boot into the bootloader or the recovery. Not quite sure about the top part, will test >_>

protomanez said:
More spam. This is a tut for soft bricked devices.
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This isnt even bricked.
If yuor device is really acutally truelly bricked (no reccvery/Boot) check out the think-tank threads and the consistently updating JTAG thread.

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protomanez said:
This is a tut for soft bricked devices, nice try. A brick is when your device will NOT boot into the bootloader or the recovery. Not quite sure about the top part, will test >_>
EDIT: Read more, ignore the above. Testing...
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Like i said idk if it will work .. i wanted it to be tested by bricked phones.. you never know whats possible

zeezee said:
This isnt even bricked.
If yuor device is really acutally truelly bricked (no reccvery/Boot) check out the think-tank threads and the consistently updating JTAG thread.
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Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Soft Brick is when you can get into recovery/bootloader. I've seen the JTAG thread, imo waste of time.

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zeezee said:
This isnt even bricked.
If yuor device is really acutally truelly bricked (no reccvery/Boot) check out the think-tank threads and the consistently updating JTAG thread.
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I'll continue to look for info on this..

kemimarie said:
I found a site with someone who bricked their phone but found a loop hole. I have never bricked my phone and hoping i never will but for those who have bricked their phone here are some steps to try to unbrick it! HOPE IT HELPS! SEND FEED BACK!!
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Nice try. It'll surely help someone out, but the phones that are totally dead (rather than just having a borked boot, system, and/or recovery partition) won't benefit from this.
This procedure depends on a living SPL, which you simply don't have in a truly bricked device.
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I've seen the JTAG thread, imo waste of time.
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Its a good thing that other people don't share your perspectives. If everybody just gave up the moment that something doesn't work *right now*, not a single human would be alive today.

The top part is talking about a brick. I have always figured there is some "ancient Chinese secret" to getting it to reload. I don't have a brick but if I did I would not ignore the possibility this could work.
I would have thought a desperate user would have tried every button combo by now though.

yeap, not a real brick

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Ive seen a few people that lucked up and unbricked their phones .. some waited did every possible combo .. yes .. but i think somehow there is a way .. and im still looking lol

Possible hint!
Has anyone tried using adb .. Reflashing the recovery img??

if seen 2 or 3 people say they saw somewhere on the interwebz about a guy who un-bricked his device.
i have yet to see any of those people give a link or anything.

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havikx said:
if seen 2 or 3 people say they saw somewhere on the interwebz about a guy who un-bricked his device.
i have yet to see any of those people give a link or anything.
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It was on here! i read it in the forums ...
look for yourself.. people on here have bricked their phone and successfully unbricked it.

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havikx said:
if seen 2 or 3 people say they saw somewhere on the interwebz about a guy who un-bricked his device.
i have yet to see any of those people give a link or anything.
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Idk i guess it depends on what caused the brick.. people say flashing spls and radios wrong.

...another hint..
kemimarie said:
Has anyone tried using adb .. Reflashing the recovery img??
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run fastboot boot recovery-image.img or whatever you named your recovery image. It'll display "waiting for device..." message just keep pluging it in, unplugging, popping the battery and eventually your device will respond and boot into recovery.
Someone bricked and i did it... twice trying to flash the eng 2010 SPL. It worked the third time and my device is up and running again with an engineering SPL.
if your device is stuck on the first splash but displays in red "Fastboot USB" message in the upper left corner of the screen, DO NOT power it down. run the above mentioned command and reflash.

Found another hint
ch3w said:
confirmed...
-I Connected USB.
-I inserted the battery.
-I booted the phone while holding the HOME key.
-The phone still froze at the first splash screen, but then suddenly, the waiting fastboot command detected the phone and booted the recovery image!
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try that on your g1/mytouch!

As already said, a brick is where you get to stare at the lovely splash1 all day. Who needs recovery or bootloader when you can see your phone's name?

protomanez said:
You made me chuckle a bit, it is quite nice isn't it?
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I have nexus envy so I have the Nexus splash1 on right now

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JAguirre1231 said:
As already said, a brick is where you get to stare at the lovely splash1 all day. Who needs recovery or bootloader when you can see your phone's name?
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And as i said, people have unbricked there "dead" phone so its possbile.

kemimarie said:
And as i said, people have unbricked there "dead" phone so its possbile.
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You've said you've read someone doing it. You did not give hard facts or evidence, you READ it. I've read many things that aren't true....
OMG I GOT BLUETOOTH WORKING IN TEH HEROZZZZ!!!!!
You read it, does that mean it is true? No, it does not.

Never been rooted MT4G stuck on boot screen

Never been rooted. My phone froze so I took out the battery and when I turned it back on, the phone was stuck on the boot logo. I've entered into the hboot menu by holding down the down volume key + power. I selected "Factory Reset " but it does nothing. I also tried selecting "Recovery Mode", which makes some green arrows appear, then the phone vibrates about 6 times in a row and goes blank.
Can I load a ROM or something to save the phone?
I also tried removing the SD card when booting, plugging the phone into the PC, etc. Nothing.
Running Gingerbread 2.3.4
I've never rooted or anything but I can follow directions if there's a way. Thanks a lot for reading.

Oh, and when I plug the phone into the computer, it appears to create a drive letter in My Computer, but when I click the drive, it doesn't open.
Should I just warranty out this phone or is there any hope? thanks.

confirm your sd card is good first.
flash your phone with the rom you like.
I think it will be ok after you flash it.

RussianSpring said:
Never been rooted. My phone froze so I took out the battery and when I turned it back on, the phone was stuck on the boot logo. I've entered into the hboot menu by holding down the down volume key + power. I selected "Factory Reset " but it does nothing. I also tried selecting "Recovery Mode", which makes some green arrows appear, then the phone vibrates about 6 times in a row and goes blank.
Can I load a ROM or something to save the phone?
I also tried removing the SD card when booting, plugging the phone into the PC, etc. Nothing.
Running Gingerbread 2.3.4
I've never rooted or anything but I can follow directions if there's a way. Thanks a lot for reading.
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Goto the glacier forum. Download the factory img file found in the rooting topics. Boot into recovery and let it flash completely. Should be good.
Or... U have a bad emmc and it is toastito's...

How do I flash the phone once I boot into recovery? do I drag and drop the IMG file somewhere on the SD card?
Sorry for the noobness.

When I plug the phone into the PC, a drive letter appears in My Computer - but nothing happens when I click it. Once I put it in recovery, the drive letter disappears.
How would I go about flashing if I don't have access to the files on the SD card?

Okay I got access to my SD card by plugging my SD card into a different phone then the computer.
There is no root folder available when doing it this way - so where would I install the flash file to?
**** never mind, I get what they mean by root...sorry, I'm retarded *****
I think I got it, I'll give this a try.

Okay. All it does is in Hboot, it checks and loads PDIMG15.ZIP, but then it just takes me back to the Hboot menu and the phone is still stuck on the boot screen.
it says...
"SD Checking PD15IMM.ZIP
No image or wrong image!"
Then reverts back to Hboot menu. Tryed formatting the SD card. Will try a different SD card next.
Different 8gb SD card = same results. No image or wrong image.
Appreciate it if anyone has a fix on this.

If anyone else is having this issue, I found a solution:
Go to T-Mobile and buy a SG2.
Problem solved.

This is supposed to a big Android site? thanks for nothing, guys!
I ended up just getting a new phone. Appreciate no one helping. Awesome awesome.

RussianSpring said:
This is supposed to a big Android site? thanks for nothing, guys!
I ended up just getting a new phone. Appreciate no one helping. Awesome awesome.
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Actually you are in the general section question and answers. There is an Android Section Questions and Answers, and better than that...wait for it...A MYTOUCH 4G QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS!!! Imagine that!! Im quite sure you would have gotten the answers you needed had you done a little searching and posted in the correct spot. Good luck with your new phone!

Maybe someone could of directed me there sooner? This site is confusing if it's your first time.
I know this is free...just saying. My post got a lot of views but almost no response.
Whatever. It's all good...thanks for replying.

Etrick said:
Goto the glacier forum. Download the factory img file found in the rooting topics. Boot into recovery and let it flash completely. Should be good.
Or... U have a bad emmc and it is toastito's...
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This is a great site. This is/was your Answer!
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium

RussianSpring said:
Maybe someone could of directed me there sooner? This site is confusing if it's your first time.
I know this is free...just saying. My post got a lot of views but almost no response.
Whatever. It's all good...thanks for replying.
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There is a search bar ...there is forums..... each forum sorted out bu the phone you have each of those forums having subforums to "general Q&a development" and so on.... my question is if you didnt have it rooted why not just take it to the store directly??? Problems like that will asure new a new phone regardless....
Just my 2 cents
oh and this is an amazing site....
rooted 100's of phones with out ever joining and ive finally joined
....crazy how the search bar takes you long ways

Bricked Inspire After New Rom Install

hello all,
I am new here and I have been searching the forums for a few days as well as the internet but I could not seem to find one that had my same problem, but if there is can you please direct me to it and apologies for that.
I was installing a new rom, the Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 FULLY WORKING!!! [4.0.4][Sense 3.6], onto my inspire i did a full wipe using FULL_WIPE_1.5_EXT4_.zip and I cleared the caches. the install i thought went well because it went to 100% and i even chose what kind of background i could as well as choosing to over clock my processor. The phone the restarted after all of that and it went to the htc screen then faded to black, after about ten minutes of it being black screen i pulled out the battery.
Now when i try to recover it it wont go into hboot and it just goes to the htc white screen then it quickly fades to a black screen and stays like that.
so my question to you all is a Jtag the only way i can save my phone or is there something else i can do?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30480411
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30480411
Sent from a dream.
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Im sorry but I dont understand. I cannot enter hboot no mater what i do and don't you need to enter hboot to reflash it?

True, but I'm hoping you are doing something wrong.
Pull battery, wait a few minutes, place back in. Press and hold Volume down, then power button. Does it go into hboot? If not.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20382502
Edit: you are the first report with that issue after trying to flash that rom. My bet (that is, if you are new), you are not doing something wrong.
2nd edit: if you are new, then read the guide in post#7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30007255
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
True, but I'm hoping you are doing something wrong.
Pull battery, wait a few minutes, place back in. Press and hold Volume down, then power button. Does it go into hboot? If not.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20382502
Edit: you are the first report with that issue after trying to flash that rom. My bet (that is, if you are new), you are not doing something wrong.
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I really appreciate the help Teichopsia , but I've tried the power /volume - method many times and it still wont go to hboot. if it helps this is the 5 time i have have flashed a rom on my phone (and it is rooted) and yes sadly i had to be the first person to be unlucky enough to get my phone bricked from the blackout rom :crying:
i think i could get out of this mess if i could only get into hboot.
reading the method you linked to me will it work if i cant even get to the hboot screen? my phone only stays of the white htc logo screen for about 3 seconds then it goes to a lit black screen
on a side note should i report what happened to team blackout to see if they have any soloutions?

The only thing I can think of is trying to get into hboot without the sd card and sim card.
The rest is beyond my knowledge.
You'll need to wait for someone more knowledgable than myself to help you.
Remember, first press and hold the volume down button, while holding that down press the power button. Do not release either button till it shows the hboot. If that doesn't work, pull the battery for five minutes and try again. If you did this part exactly like that, then you can skip it.
Well, you already posyed your issue here, just wait for someone to help you. Glevitan is bound to show up sooner or later.
Sent from a dream.

I would see if you can send commands to it from adb while its in the blacked out state. adb is pretty easy to use and can be found easy online. if you get it installed type "adb devices", if it recognizes your device type "adb reboot bootloader" or "adb reboot recovery".

Novius vi said:
hello all,
I am new here and I have been searching the forums for a few days as well as the internet but I could not seem to find one that had my same problem, but if there is can you please direct me to it and apologies for that.
I was installing a new rom, the Blackout ICS Incredible v3.0.0 FULLY WORKING!!! [4.0.4][Sense 3.6], onto my inspire i did a full wipe using FULL_WIPE_1.5_EXT4_.zip and I cleared the caches. the install i thought went well because it went to 100% and i even chose what kind of background i could as well as choosing to over clock my processor. The phone the restarted after all of that and it went to the htc screen then faded to black, after about ten minutes of it being black screen i pulled out the battery.
Now when i try to recover it it wont go into hboot and it just goes to the htc white screen then it quickly fades to a black screen and stays like that.
so my question to you all is a Jtag the only way i can save my phone or is there something else i can do?
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i also have the same problem. i'm using a DHD. and to add to that, my volume rocker is broken. i wonder why the warning not to select reboot immediately after installation wasnt part of the download as a readme or something. i may have just lost a perfectly good phone as a result

I can confirm as a third user and one knowledgable in flashing roms that the ICS blackout does the same thing to my phone. I can also confirm that pulling the battery and then trying hboot just results in the white htc screen instead of just popping up hboot. I was able to boot into recovery from the white htc screen by using adb and doing the "adb reboot recovery" command. I am able to restore my backup just fine so you guys will be able to fix it. it must just have a bad boot image for the version of hboot that we have installed.

Gizmoe said:
I can confirm as a third user and one knowledgable in flashing roms that the ICS blackout does the same thing to my phone. I can also confirm that pulling the battery and then trying hboot just results in the white htc screen instead of just popping up hboot. I was able to boot into recovery from the white htc screen by using adb and doing the "adb reboot recovery" command. I am able to restore my backup just fine so you guys will be able to fix it. it must just have a bad boot image for the version of hboot that we have installed.
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Im sorry but this is the first time i have ever done something like that can you give me a step by step instruction how to do it or a link that says how, i dont want to sound lazy but I scared to mess up my phone even more

Use this guide its very easy. if you have already used your phone on your pc and the drivers are installed all you need to do is download the easyadb and follow the instrucions to where is says to type adb.exe. once it is started just type adb devices to make sure it sees your device and then adb reboot recovery
Ignore the fact the instructions are written for a xoom as it will work for any android device with the drivers already installed, which they should be from rooting, syncing and all the other stuff you have probably already done on pc.
UPDATE: I reinstalled ICS blackout but instead of wiping myself i just let aroma installer do it and everything went fine this time. I noticed the aroma installer reformats everything to ext4. its not mentioned in the op as a requirement but seems thats the case. Hboot version has nothing to do with it like i previously commented. It really is a cool rom with both ics and sense. I have only tried the sense version so far

Hope this helps?
Novius vi said:
Im sorry but this is the first time i have ever done something like that can you give me a step by step instruction how to do it or a link that says how, i dont want to sound lazy but I scared to mess up my phone even more
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Just in case-- to get into recovery you must press and hold the volume down for a few seconds and then hold the power button. Do not do press them both at the same time. I realize you wrote that your volume rocker seems or is broken but I wrote above just in case-- when I first tried to root my phone, I was pushing them both at first and thought my rocker was broken....
Since you rooted the phone originally-- not sure how you did it. But if you go to this link you can download recovery flash. Read the "readme" file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29208930&postcount=10
Assuming you can get into recovery-- then reload the blackout ROM but you MUST let the aroma installer wipe and format do not use any other wipe/format tool. Then do NOT press the "FINISH" button-- instead press the back arrow-- you want to go back to flash recovery and reboot from there. If you press finish (like I did multiple times, the phone will just lockup).
Best of luck!

Three of us confirmed that hboot was inaccessible even after battery pull. I am no stranger to this device as well. The only fix was using adb reboot. Also if you actually reformat your partitions to ext4 before install, then aroma will install correctly. It's just not mounting anything if it's still in ext3 format. Definitely better to just do the full wipe within aroma though. I do agree with not hitting restart from aroma but someone already mentioned that a few posts up.

Thank you thank you thank you
After putting it into abd it recognized it and then i was able to put it into hboot. Im not out of the woods yet, but after not being to see hboot in so long, well its just amazing to see it again
ok now its in hboot it gives me 4 choices
bootloader
Reboot
Reboot Bootloader
power down
apologies again but just for reassurance which one should i select?
THANK YOU GUYS for getting me this far!!!
special thanks to Gizmoe for suggesting the adb route

Novius vi said:
After putting it into abd it recognized it and then i was able to put it into hboot. Im not out of the woods yet, but after not being to see hboot in so long, well its just amazing to see it again
ok now its in hboot it gives me 4 choices
bootloader
Reboot
Reboot Bootloader
power down
apologies again but just for reassurance which one should i select?
THANK YOU GUYS for getting me this far!!!
special thanks to Gizmoe for suggesting the adb route
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Select bootloader to get to recovery option.

1shukla said:
Just in case-- to get into recovery you must press and hold the volume down for a few seconds and then hold the power
Assuming you can get into recovery-- then reload the blackout ROM but you MUST let the aroma installer wipe and format do not use any other wipe/format tool. Then do NOT press the "FINISH" button-- instead press the back arrow-- you want to go back to flash recovery and reboot from there. If you press finish (like I did multiple times, the phone will just lockup).
Best of luck!
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I did exactly as you said I pressed finished and it asked if i wanted to reboot i said no. then it sent me back to recovery mode crossing my fingers hoping to see that it works:fingers-crossed:

Now, just manually reboot.
Sent from a dream.

You saved my phone!!
Thank you guys sooo much this Rom is great once I got past that minor issue
My phones working better than ever I even oced it a little bit
Again I am eternally grateful to you guys and team black out for this great Rom!