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[Q] Gingerbread ROM for Galaxy 3

Hi All,
I am using my Galaxy 3 on Froyo for sometime now and now I would like to upgrade to Gingerbread. I am not allowed to post under Development threads. Hence I have this post here.
Please let me know if there is any Gingerbread ROM available.
regards,
Nandi

shuvabrata said:
Hi All,
I am using my Galaxy 3 on Froyo for sometime now and now I would like to upgrade to Gingerbread. I am not allowed to post under Development threads. Hence I have this post here.
Please let me know if there is any Gingerbread ROM available.
regards,
Nandi
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No, there's not such ROM... developpers still work on Froyo... the others wander whether G3 supports or not Gingerbread and whether Samsung will support or not Gingerbread on G3...

Samsung won't release gingerbread for our phones, I can guarantee you that. We're lucky if we get froyo.
First, is the hardware limitation
Second, there's no point for samsung to officially release it to our phone. We're not paying them anything anymore, It's much more profitable to release a new phone with gingerbread in it. That's how biz-nes works.

@thom47 there is NO hardware limits... if phone runs froyo it can also run gingerbread
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I know it can run it technically and people can cope with it, but can Samsung agree to the performance of it is a different thing. But well, we're not getting it anyways so let's not get our hopes up

Thom47 said:
I know it can run it technically and people can cope with it, but can Samsung agree to the performance of it is a different thing. But well, we're not getting it anyways so let's not get our hopes up
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well if we would have good devs they could port it to sg3 from sgs, i mean how hard could it be?? (YES, i know VERY hard)...

There are not many significant features/improvements in Gingerbread over Froyo..I would be happy to get official Froyo soon..and maybe Cyanogen Mod later

TekkenLaw said:
There are not many significant features/improvements in Gingerbread over Froyo..I would be happy to get official Froyo soon..and maybe Cyanogen Mod later
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I agree,
a stable Froyo + some usable custom ROM is much more important then still a newest version.
There are not significant advantages - and our hardware (no 3d acceleration, no JIT) has its limits

nastyba said:
I agree,
a stable Froyo + some usable custom ROM is much more important then still a newest version.
There are not significant advantages - and our hardware (no 3d acceleration, no JIT) has its limits
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Why should JIT be a matter of hardware?
MAD-Team has enabled JIT for the G5 too...

Anyway it's very cool to have gingerbread because of the lock animation

Thom47 said:
Samsung won't release gingerbread for our phones, I can guarantee you that. We're lucky if we get froyo.
First, is the hardware limitation
Second, there's no point for samsung to officially release it to our phone. We're not paying them anything anymore, It's much more profitable to release a new phone with gingerbread in it. That's how biz-nes works.
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for that attitude Samsung will ruin their business very soon just because of no customer support.
Supporting customer is the best way increase brand name and free fund marketing.
Like Apple. They are supporting their customer like GOD see their fame and they dont any kind of marketing

then why LG company is saying that lg optimus one will get 2.3 i think there hardware is same as our

mastersquall said:
then why LG company is saying that lg optimus one will get 2.3 i think there hardware is same as our
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yea but samsung happens to be cheap and decides not to develope gingerbread to our phones
im going to say this ONE more time.... here it goes: yes our phones could run 2.3 THERE ISNT ANY HARDWARE PROBLEMS...(no HARDWARE problems...) did you and all the others get it?????

Yes, we don't have any official samsung gingerbread release for galaxy 3 but we do have few custom ROM's with 2.3 firware...you can try it to get the experience of gingerbread
example-- Darky's ROM, CM7( wok in progess ) etc

samsung germay say gingerbread is coming to the g3 ! but i dont know when in may samsung says end of july last week they mean end of september
but we have cm7 with ****y vid and 3d but less powerdrain this time

y dont u try this one
y dont u try this one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101218

darshang3 said:
y dont u try this one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101218
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Dude look at the date. Marcellusbe didn't finish porting at that time.
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Maulik_monti said:
for that attitude Samsung will ruin their business very soon just because of no customer support.
Supporting customer is the best way increase brand name and free fund marketing.
Like Apple. They are supporting their customer like GOD see their fame and they dont any kind of marketing
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Exactly, one thing I know for sure, MY NEXT PHONE WILL DEFINITELY NOT A SAMSUNG! OR SAM****!
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appajodu said:
Yes, we don't have any official samsung gingerbread release for galaxy 3 but we do have few custom ROM's with 2.3 firware...you can try it to get the experience of gingerbread
example-- Darky's ROM, CM7( wok in progess ) etc
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Darky's ROM??
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shuvabrata said:
Hi All,
I am using my Galaxy 3 on Froyo for sometime now and now I would like to upgrade to Gingerbread. I am not allowed to post under Development threads. Hence I have this post here.
Please let me know if there is any Gingerbread ROM available.
regards,
Nandi
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Try CM7 its pretty much usable & offsets much more than just a gingerbread
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ICE Cream sandwich ??

Is there any conformation that LG Optimus 3d will get the next version of android. If yes then when ?

OMG!!we are waiting for Gingerbread and you're thinking about IC

Some rumors say that the update will be IS and no more gingerbread.. im not sure though

You can make sure that even in unofficially, the ice cream sandwich will exist for o3d. I know it because the omap4430 will be the ooficial chipset for ICS.

at this rate, we get icecream on 2013

lordsyre27 said:
Some rumors say that the update will be IS and no more gingerbread.. im not sure though
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absolutely wrong rumors...i'll receive gingerbread beta ROM in mid october.

No way will we get IS from LG because it wont even be on the optimus 3d 2
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I am sure that we will get the update because it is the update that will give the full power of the device as ICS will support dual cores fully, so with dual core and dual channel we will get much much better performance. The question is when? Actually LG should know that if they want to success in smartphones market, they should give a good support and they should beat all other companies, sonyericsson learned the lesson from their experience with X10, now they are on the top of companies that give the best support for their devices, I hope that LG learns the lesson and became the first company that rolls out ICS update(Which is not expected ).

crime_of_heart said:
You can make sure that even in unofficially, the ice cream sandwich will exist for o3d. I know it because the omap4430 will be the ooficial chipset for ICS.
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Actually, its going to be the newer Omap4460.

Killer Bee said:
Actually, its going to be the newer Omap4460.
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Well, they are almost the same hardware...
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I think they should ditch Ginger bread and give us IS . .. . . .. . .
" does any one know if there's going to be proxy support in IS "???

nic85 said:
absolutely wrong rumors...i'll receive gingerbread beta ROM in mid october.
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Isn't it a bit late for LG too still be on a beta of Gingerbread in October. You would have thought they would be way past that stage by now. It'll take even longer for it to be released now.
lordsyre27 said:
Some rumors say that the update will be IS and no more gingerbread.. im not sure though
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It would make a lot more sense for LG just to go straight to Ice Cream Sandwich as they've left Gingerbread so late to be released.
I think it would be very very poor of LG if they don't even bother to release Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Do they want there reputation to go down even more.

dinoric81 said:
Isn't it a bit late for LG too still be on a beta of Gingerbread in October. You would have thought they would be way past that stage by now. It'll take even longer for it to be released now.
It would make a lot more sense for LG just to go straight to Ice Cream Sandwich as they've left Gingerbread so late to be released.
I think it would be very very poor of LG if they don't even bother to release Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Do they want there reputation to go down even more.
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I totally agree with that. If they are not able to release the GB this month, it's better to drop everything and start with the IC update.
It's been said that Google will release the update on Q4 which is very close now, so LG' better put themselves together and work harder, otherwise next time I buy a phone it won't be from LG.

Dear Friends,
Lg O3D is very smooth and 3D is really great with stock rom and even faster with custom roms. I am already satisfied with Froyo since i can run almost all the apps but some games related GB and some frontcam based apps. Yes, GB or ICS are really welcome but i can live with Froyo since not so much complains on performance and usage...
Kind regards
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ICS for Infuse! Hopefully

This better come to previous devices, I am watching the live stream right now and the software is everything that I want it to be, lol. I am still awaiting whether what they will do with it being ported to older phones, but with Cynagen and other extreme devs working on ICS there is hope lol. EDIT: sorry did not see the other threads, but this could be like a way to remove all that clutter an arguement on the other threads.

Doubtful, if we do get it officially it won't be for a looong azz time.

My guess: International GS2 will get it, which means AT&T GS2 will get it due to the hardware similarities, Infuse won't due to being a weirdo device not in common with anything else.

Well hopefully gtg can work his magic with Mikey and make it happen maybe.
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Guys, they haven't even said whether ICS is open source yet. Patience, patience, and keep those fingers crossed!

Ok so after watching the live stream of the event, I believe I also read that ICS is open source so that any manufacture can pick it up and develop it for any device. Im praying that samsung does something for all their devices. since the relationship with googster is becoming bigger and bigger.

tazbo28 said:
Ok so after watching the live stream of the event, I believe I also read that ICS is open source so that any manufacture can pick it up and develop it for any device. Im praying that samsung does something for all their devices. since the relationship with googster is becoming bigger and bigger.
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I too read that ICS should be open sourced - eventually. Hell, they didn't even tell us which carriers or what price. We can guess all day but until someone says something it's still a lot of speculation on some very important points.

Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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"Alongside a new flagship handset (check out our hands-on with the Galaxy Nexus!), Google is announcing an all-new version of its Android OS. Codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, Android 4.0 is a continuation and refinement of ideas that first emerged in Honeycomb, now all grown up and ready for life in a phone. Perhaps even more importantly, Android 4.0 is an open source release, which means any hardware manufacturer that wants a crack at it can download the source and sell a device with 4.0 on top — Honeycomb never attained that status." -----Paul Miller, The Verge
I think thats pretty reputable.

tazbo28 said:
Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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"Alongside a new flagship handset (check out our hands-on with the Galaxy Nexus!), Google is announcing an all-new version of its Android OS. Codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, Android 4.0 is a continuation and refinement of ideas that first emerged in Honeycomb, now all grown up and ready for life in a phone. Perhaps even more importantly, Android 4.0 is an open source release, which means any hardware manufacturer that wants a crack at it can download the source and sell a device with 4.0 on top — Honeycomb never attained that status." -----Paul Miller, The Verge
I think thats pretty reputable.
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Good point, and who said official? They are going to make cynagen mod 9, which should practicly just be an upgrade from cm7, which means we can have this very soon (possibly). And this should be open sourced, If they do not they are screwing themselves over lol. If Samsung wants to be the best in Android like they said in the speech thing, then make more updates lol.

tazbo28 said:
Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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"Alongside a new flagship handset (check out our hands-on with the Galaxy Nexus!), Google is announcing an all-new version of its Android OS. Codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, Android 4.0 is a continuation and refinement of ideas that first emerged in Honeycomb, now all grown up and ready for life in a phone. Perhaps even more importantly, Android 4.0 is an open source release, which means any hardware manufacturer that wants a crack at it can download the source and sell a device with 4.0 on top — Honeycomb never attained that status." -----Paul Miller, The Verge
I think thats pretty reputable.
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Hey now, I'm on your side guys! I'm just saying they didn't say jack at the event.

beatblaster said:
Hey now, I'm on your side guys! I'm just saying they didn't say jack at the event.
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They did not, heck maybe if they release this for any of the Galaxy S line not S2 because of extreme differences the Hellraiser may be used. Probably not, im dreaming again haha.

tazbo28 said:
Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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FWIW and just to answer your question (if you even care), an SDK and an API do not include source code. They are a set of tools and libraries to help you develop your own software by exposing key features of the software the SDK or API is written against.
Here's the android open source site: http://source.android.com/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
Looks like the Nexus S is getting it, so specs are clearly not a problem. Let's hope Samsung doesn't totally forget about the Infuse.

Keep in mind guys it isn't just about if Samsung will give us ICS but also if ATT would allow it and if they would let it through in any amount of decent time. Hell we still don't have an official gingerbread release.

If my memory isn't failing me. Google had stated that all new devices would get at least two software upgrades. 1) gingerbread 2)ICS. This was back when tthe atrix was still relevant. Someone should Google this. LOL.
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i could be wrong about this, but if we happen to get a dump of the rom soon, wouldnt there be some feature of the rom that indicates which resolution to display at? I mean considering this is supposed to be like a one size fits all? or is that purely what the sdk and api tools do?

I just read on Engadget that apparently, all Gingerbread devices should be able to get ICS.
Am I allowed to post links?

Optimus-Prime said:
If my memory isn't failing me. Google had stated that all new devices would get at least two software upgrades. 1) gingerbread 2)ICS. This was back when tthe atrix was still relevant. Someone should Google this. LOL.
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I believe we were also told we would get Gingerbread in August. Never believe anything when it comes to getting software upgrades.

tazbo28 said:
i could be wrong about this, but if we happen to get a dump of the rom soon, wouldnt there be some feature of the rom that indicates which resolution to display at? I mean considering this is supposed to be like a one size fits all? or is that purely what the sdk and api tools do?
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I'm looking at the PNGs in the SDK right now and our device (HDPI) has a full set of graphics so if anyone ever ports this for us the visual work is there. I'm a themer, not a ROM developer, but seeing those PNGs in the SDK tells me Gingerbread devices (whether they are all devices or not is left to be seen) could be a potential target for ICS.

Optimus-Prime said:
If my memory isn't failing me. Google had stated that all new devices would get at least two software upgrades. 1) gingerbread 2)ICS. This was back when tthe atrix was still relevant. Someone should Google this. LOL.
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Ics is different though, it is trying to unify everything. Most good devices are on 2.3 now, (ahem sammy your letting us down here lol), but we will be getting it. This leads into beatblasters hypothesis thing (sorry thinking sience), where probably Gingerbred phones are going to be compatible with it. And if att doesnt want to lose customers, then then better upgrade their older phones or else tmobile or verizon here i come.

No ics for i9003!!!!!

androidadvices.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-mobiles-tablets-announcement-table/
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who cares... fuss will be porting ics for us when he gets his i9003

It was obvious.

it is not official...

maxoooo said:
it is not official...
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It is official. Samsung Mobile posted it on their facebook page.

Yeah Samsung has also confirmed that we will not be getting ICS:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-and-Galaxy-Note-to-get-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-in-Q1-of-2012-more-devices-to-follow_id24941

spacebar2011 said:
It is official. Samsung Mobile posted it on their facebook page.
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if samsung has not decleared it officially even though everybody know unofficially by default that samsung will never give us ICS. Never mind still I am happy with 2.3.6 version & waiting for 2.3.7 version...!

this is not official by samsung.this list only includes the devices which has been confirmed for the update and devices which doesn't have any confirmation are stated as will not get ICS.we CAN get confirmation in future but chances for that are very less.

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=8894
sorry folks its official

Samsung is no where near lg...when lg can update optimus black...samsung is not only abandoning our phone, even the original galaxy s doesn't get the update...how sad!!
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Hope codeworkx returns for cm9 build...
KPQ>UC KERNEL>DEODEX>EXT4>LABEL THEME V2

neojith said:
Hope codeworkx returns for cm9 build...
KPQ>UC KERNEL>DEODEX>EXT4>LABEL THEME V2
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Very little hope of that too. He's got no time for the i9003 and its just lying around somewhere in his house. This phone is one of those unfortunate ones that no one seems to care about or even remember. ROM Manager still doesn't recognize it, most forums don't even acknowledge its existence and Samsung doesn't give two rats about it.
You either have to live with GB, wait for someone to port CM9 (unlikely) or maybe IF Samsung decide to throw a 4.0.x update at it later or just move on to another device that is actually popular and supported by the larger dev community.
I personally got frustrated and went for the Galaxy Nexus but I still have my i9003 and care about it. Its a pretty good device but one of the least supported. The Optimus Black, Droid X and other similar phones have plenty support. Even the super cheap low-end LG, HTC and Samsung phones have more support than the i9003. Its just a mystery why! Samsung just didn't release this device in enough countries.
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ronhoover88 said:
Samsung is no where near lg...when lg can update optimus black...samsung is not only abandoning our phone, even the original galaxy s doesn't get the update...how sad!!
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Pretty sad considering that the original GS and its US variants are basically the Nexus S which already has the update.

At least they left the device running nicely on Gingerbread (even if you need to use ODIN to upgrade depending on your region)

Petition.
If you guys still are in hope of ICS for the i9003, go HERE and sign the petition.
Remember to add the optional message and mention the i9003.
Keep it civil though.

So sammy doesn't seem to honor the 18 months update schedule? Original i9000 was released long ago and i9003 deserves ICS according to the plan...

its not official
i9003 has not completed the 12months support period thats y samsung has to rlease it otherwise we can always ask samsung to xchange our phonz with GALAXY SII

Is that possible .... can we demand such a way?
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I didn't know abt the 12 or 18 month support thing... Where is this mentioned??
Can somebody guide with a Internet link or whatever so that I can check..
If that's viable then we don't have to start a petition or anything., instead complaint to our respective Consumer Support Forums.. (no disrespect, but petitions are crap which'll never work)

Samsung threw us(

the industry won't let this happen... new phones will get ics officialy, older phones just will get it modded... always works in that way.

Have a Samsung phone? No ICS update? Sign this groubal ASAP..

If you have a Samsung device,and you are not getting an ICS update,then sign this groubal ASAP people...
http://www.groubal.com/unavailabili...-various-samsung-android-devices-from-samsung
I am just sharing this groubal I am not the creator of it..
Regards

nice.

I dont have Samsung but i've signed it for you

while I agree it could be nice to have an update, you should keep in mind that ICS or not it doesn't change much... I mean, the SGS II got the update and with the touchwiz and all you can barely see the difference. Plus your phone won't get any faster so... Better hope for a custom ICS ROM for your phone than from Samsung

signed!!

Signed.. Rediculous.. ICS was released in December, it's April, and still there is no Update.. And even if there would be one.. with the damn ugly TouchWizz

On Samsung you will always get touchwiz..its not a nexus its not android sorry.. but I signed it for you
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ray3andrei said:
On Samsung you will always get touchwiz..its not a nexus its not android sorry.. but I signed it for you
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True, if I knew more about Android, I would make another choice.

By the time they push the OTA update the next best thing will be out. Find a good Rom. Will benefit you more
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How many petition have we made? and do they really have any effect?

I did not want to mention a rival company, but Sony updated its entire Xperia line of 2011 to ICS, which means your competitors have realised that their customers don’t deserve to be frozen out.
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Actually, they just pushed back the release date for ICS recently. We were supposed to get it in mid-march, but the WT19i will get it around end of may/early june. I bought my SE WT19i because they promised the upgrade for ICS, but two weeks ago they mentioned that if they couldn't make their rom perfect, they would even skip the 2011 line, and give ICS only for the 2012 line.

evolsam said:
while I agree it could be nice to have an update, you should keep in mind that ICS or not it doesn't change much... I mean, the SGS II got the update and with the touchwiz and all you can barely see the difference. Plus your phone won't get any faster so... Better hope for a custom ICS ROM for your phone than from Samsung
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Also checked out the Jw4 value pack... meh. I liked the snap stills while recording feature, and the face lock with blink did sound great but execution was lack luster. My wife's GS2 phone seems to laggier on tw ICS than it was on tw GB.
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Actually, they just pushed back the release date for ICS recently. We were supposed to get it in mid-march, but the WT19i will get it around end of may/early june. I bought my SE WT19i because they promised the upgrade for ICS, but two weeks ago they mentioned that if they couldn't make their rom perfect, they would even skip the 2011 line, and give ICS only for the 2012 line.
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One one hand that sucks, but given what I saw on Sammy's Touchwiz version of ICS it could be for the best. Sorry have not played with the Xperia line, don't know how Sony UI is. They seemed a little more concerned with refinement. But all OEMs are dragging their feet on this.

evolsam said:
while I agree it could be nice to have an update, you should keep in mind that ICS or not it doesn't change much... I mean, the SGS II got the update and with the touchwiz and all you can barely see the difference. Plus your phone won't get any faster so... Better hope for a custom ICS ROM for your phone than from Samsung
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U r not getting the point ...when Samsung releases a rom or the libs , XDA devs can work full-on on custom roms like cm9,aokp etc ...no one cares for Samsung's roms we want the libs and some base ics rom to start off with...
Our cm9 port is yet to get a working camera and everyone is going crazy asking for ETAs
you know you are rooted when you use XDA more than FB

don't think that petition can solve the problem.... :-(

I have the Galaxy tab (first generation).
What Samsung said about Honeycomb: The size of the screen, 7''. (!?!?!?!?!?!?!?)
What Samsung said about ICS: Hardware. (!?!?!??!)
What I say for samsung: No more. Asus and Sony, wait for me.
PS: Samsung will do nothing, the only thing that wants is MONEY, MONEY AND A LOT OF MONEY.

True... At least they should release libs and files

Dragonoid said:
U r not getting the point ...when Samsung releases a rom or the libs , XDA devs can work full-on on custom roms like cm9,aokp etc ...no one cares for Samsung's roms we want the libs and some base ics rom to start off with...
Our cm9 port is yet to get a working camera and everyone is going crazy asking for ETAs
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You obviously have much better understanding then some of those who are new XDA, most likely because you own a device directly affected. Of course I and evolsam don't know all the nuances like you do. I myself only just noticed the SGS2 ICS ROMs are not as refined yet as the GSS ICS ROMs. The Galaxy S has had to port over most of the ROMs. Which has gone over quite well so why would it not seem like an answer for other Galaxy devices like the Ace and W. Barring an explainantion, the need for code source release in these cases is not something that is readily apparent.
Anyways I now know, and of course I'll sign, anything to aid the devs. That's all you needed to say or anyone needed to say. Maybe more like evolsam will then too.

Don't think that petition can solve the problem.... :-(

signed

signed but won't change anything