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Has anyone tried the native backup option in 4.0.3?

I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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heccubusxda said:
I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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I've been doing this since before ICS. What this refers to, really, is synching Google apps with their online counterparts (Contacts, Calendar, etc.) and storing settings for Google apps on Google servers. It won't help with any non-Google apps.

I can't upload a screenshot but there is an option-
"Back up my data: back up app data, wifi passwords and other settings to google servers"
And further down one that says: "Auto Restore: when reinstalling an app restore backed up settings and data"
So this is just referring to google's stuff and not to Market apps?
Thanks for your response btw.
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heccubusxda said:
I can't upload a screenshot but there is an option-
"Back up my data: back up app data, wifi passwords and other settings to google servers"
And further down one that says: "Auto Restore: when reinstalling an app restore backed up settings and data"
So this is just referring to google's stuff and not to Market apps?
Thanks for your response btw.
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In general it will restore your Android settings (wifi passwords, wallpaper, etc). And it will re-download all the market apps you had installed. But you will lose all the data and settings from the market apps.

heccubusxda said:
I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA
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I'd say it's not very functional. Like Bozzy said it won't restore your app settings. It will redownload all your apps but you'll usually find that to be more of an annoyance than anything. I'd recommend investing in Titanium Backup. Or if you're strapped for funds you can download MyBackup Root for free but Titanium Backup is well worth every penny. When I rooted my wife's phone I actually bought Titanium again even though I could've used my license key because it's such an awesome app.

I have Ti Backup downloaded and ready to go but that app requires root.
I guess I'll go with Astro, back up to SD card, and transfer to pc via USB.
If I'm understanding things correctly?
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heccubusxda said:
I have Ti Backup downloaded and ready to go but that app requires root.
I guess I'll go with Astro, back up to SD card, and transfer to pc via USB.
If I'm understanding things correctly?
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I should clarify. Without root you won't be able to backup app data. Titanium will be your best friend once you are rooted but prior you'll just be able backup the .apks, saving you from having to redownload them. So, yes you are on the right track with Astro.

Just to update.
Digging in the forums here I found a method of getting root without wiping my phone.
I was able to root my phone by running a batch file on my PC- doesn't touch the bootloader. Used titanium to back everything up before I start flashing.
Very cool.
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[Q] Titanium Backup Pro

I bought Titanium Backup Pro and have a key.
However, whenever I flash a new ROM, all my apps start coming back. If I try to install the Key from the Play Store, it gets pushed under everythign else and downloads at the end.
I tried the option in Titanium Backup settings where it copies Titanium Backup as an update.zip to the sd card, but that only restores the regular, FREE Titanium Backup app, without the key.
So my question is: How do I restore the Titanium Backup Pro Key on my first boot into a new rom, without installing any of the other apps I previously had? (I prefer to restore everything with Titanium Backup, rather than letting the Play Store do it)
Thanks for reading

When you flash a new rom uncheck keep this phone backed up with my google account. That is not exactly how its worded but its in the initial set up.

REplY
You should have installed MY BACKUP ROOT before flashing the new rom

gullu101 said:
I bought Titanium Backup Pro and have a key.
However, whenever I flash a new ROM, all my apps start coming back. If I try to install the Key from the Play Store, it gets pushed under everythign else and downloads at the end.
I tried the option in Titanium Backup settings where it copies Titanium Backup as an update.zip to the sd card, but that only restores the regular, FREE Titanium Backup app, without the key.
So my question is: How do I restore the Titanium Backup Pro Key on my first boot into a new rom, without installing any of the other apps I previously had? (I prefer to restore everything with Titanium Backup, rather than letting the Play Store do it)
Thanks for reading
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I do the following steps:
before installing new ROM,
I first back up all apps using Titanium Backup. I ensure that I back up the Titanium PRO app as well.
Then after installing the new ROM... i do the following:
after signing into the phone - I go to play store and stop all downloads and install Titanium Backup free.
when I run the free version it automatically registers the PRO version as it is backed up in it.
then I can restore all other apps using Titanium back up PRO.
Let me know if this was helpful to you.

Yeah I figured it, what I have to do is sign in from my account but uncheck the boxes for backing up accounts and restoring to the phone. Then I just download both the program and its key from the market. Thanks!
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

How is the Dev support for the TB Pro?
gullu101 said:
Yeah I figured it, what I have to do is sign in from my account but uncheck the boxes for backing up accounts and restoring to the phone. Then I just download both the program and its key from the market. Thanks!
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
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I I wish there were more tutorials about the TB pro....

Reply to your question
I hear dev support is pretty good (never had to contact him/her/them myself though)

because when applications freeze, then thaw and then I said: application not installed

I leave the option to keep my phone baked up to my account when I flash a new rom, but always uncheck the first option that says something to the effect of "restore from my account". Then I grab tb from the play store, unless the rom has a baked in file explorer, since I keep a copy backed up in my storage.
Installing my backup root prior to flashing a new rom will do absolutely no good if you wipe data.
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You guys are unchecking the 'backup to google accounts ' box, but can you check it again, later on? Because I do want my stuff to be backed upwith google as well.

SahilC said:
You guys are unchecking the 'backup to google accounts ' box, but can you check it again, later on? Because I do want my stuff to be backed upwith google as well.
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I always leave the backup to Google option checked, but always uncheck the restore from Google option.
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Oh. That makes sense!
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You dont have to uncheck anything, as soon as the phone gets to the homescreen just go to the play store and stop the downloads just takes a click. Keeping google restore checked you will have your contacts back as soon as you boot up.

Contacts will restore whether the restore from Google account is selected during initial setup or not, as long as contacts are allowed to sync with your account.
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I see I didn't know that.
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Problem
I use titanium backup pro and when i want to restore the to the same serial my phone its blocks. I root the phone from 2 times for this cause.

mirceasinca said:
I use titanium backup pro and when i want to restore the to the same serial my phone its blocks. I root the phone from 2 times for this cause.
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What error are you getting, and what are you trying to restore?
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Titanium PRO and RUU Europe_3.14.401.27
I installed stock ROM Europe_3.14.401.27 and rotted via HTC, but Titanium pro tells me "NOT ROOTED"
Tried the recommandations like wipe, use rcm set privileges, no prevail,
Anybody has new ideas?
Solved the problem by installing openrecovery-twrp and than in recovery mode CWM-SuperSU-v0.99
Now Titanium Pro works

TB not restoring apps
Hello, before I installed Pac-Man 4.4, I made a backup with TB. Ported them with usb to my desktop from the computer. did a full wipe. flashed pacman 4.4 and gapps. then i installed tb from the play store, also pro version, then ported the files back from computer to tb file, opened tb and want to choose restore but there are zero apps to restore and normaly there are 350. Some help is welcome thank you.
SOLVED: and sorry for posting on the wrong place, this was for the I9305 (Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE)
backup from phone to desktop file the name of the file went from
air.byss.mobi.instaweatherpro-20140105-223234.properties to air.byss.mobi.instaweatherpro-20140105-223234 - Copy.properties
and
air.byss.mobi.instaweatherpro-20140105-223234.tar.gz to air.byss.mobi.instaweatherpro-20140105-223234.tar - Copy.gz
installed "lammer context menu" ---> batch rename .... remove - Copy

[Q] how to restore with titanium backup

OK here is my problem. Im still a noobie at all this. I backed up all my files with titanium backup, wiped both my caches factory reset and flashed my ROM on my GS3. Downloaded titanium backup again and all the restore options were empty, nothing there. But my internal memory is still full and under titanium backup in my files all my apps and data is still there. Why didn't TB save my backup? Is there anyway to restore using just the files or am I pretty much f ucked? Please help thank you.

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Have TB look for backup folders. It may be on your other memory location

And How exactly do I do that??

Hmm, what rom are you using? Cuz it may have changed your internal storage just a tad bit. If you're using AOSP, you might need to do this first: open Titanium Backup (TB) and go to Settings/Preferences/Backup Folder Location//Detect/Scan Whole Device.
That said:
1) open TB and choose "Backup/Restore" then "Click to edit filters"
2) select "backed up" and "uninstalled"
3) tap the check mark on the top right. You'll see your backed up apps now.
4) Tap the check mark on the top right again, scroll down to the "Restore" tab and choose "restore missing apps with data." Do not restore system data.
5) Done.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Hmm, what rom are you using? Cuz it may have changed your internal storage just a tad bit. If you're using AOSP, you might need to do this first: open Titanium Backup (TB) and go to Settings/Preferences/Backup Folder Location//Detect/Scan Whole Device.
That said:
1) open TB and choose "Backup/Restore" then "Click to edit filters"
2) select "backed up" and "uninstalled"
3) tap the check mark on the top right. You'll see your backed up apps now.
4) Tap the check mark on the top right again, scroll down to the "Restore" tab and choose "restore missing apps with data." Do not restore system data.
5) Done.
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Omg That worked!! Thank you so much. What a relief seriously can't Thank you enough.

kolmo0730 said:
Omg That worked!! Thank you so much. What a relief seriously can't Thank you enough.
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Glad to help, now go enjoy your day!
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TiBu Pro not bringing over restored files
SlimSnoopOS said:
Glad to help, now go enjoy your day!
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Hi-
Running xt912 with CM10.1 Rom.
Followed instructions above and all of my apps/data were not installed to the ROM. Any idea why this is (not) happening.
Missing so many apps? Any help is appreciated.

Helron said:
Hi-
Running xt912 with CM10.1 Rom.
Followed instructions above and all of my apps/data were not installed to the ROM. Any idea why this is (not) happening.
Missing so many apps? Any help is appreciated.
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Aight, I see you're using a different phone so I do not know the file structure. Did TB restore any of your apps OR was it unable to find your backups at all? Cuz if it did not find any backups then open TB and navigate here: Menu/Preferences/Backup Folder Location/Detect/Whole device. This will force TB to scan your entire device (internal and external storage) for your TB backups. If this does not work then there likely is not a backup on the device.

SlimSnoopOS said:
Aight, I see you're using a different phone so I do not know the file structure. Did TB restore any of your apps OR was it unable to find your backups at all? Cuz if it did not find any backups then open TB and navigate here: Menu/Preferences/Backup Folder Location/Detect/Whole device. This will force TB to scan your entire device (internal and external storage) for your TB backups. If this does not work then there likely is not a backup on the device.
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Thanks! I have done all that u mentioned, and I was able to find backups. BUT, all of my apps have not restored. Am I too recreate every email account and every socia account. That sucks! What the devil is the purpose of TB?
All the forums say TB Pro is the best-does it all, well I found this and it is very upsetting:
1. Titanium Backup will restore all the apps along with their data to your device one by one. On the free version of the app, you will have to restore apps manually one after another. Just make sure that you don’t tap the open app button after restoring any of the app.
If you buy the pro version from the market, all the apps will be silently restored to your phone, and if you have tons of apps on your device, it makes it worth the purchase. THERE WAS NO SILENT INSTALL (and the backup are there and on my PC)
2. For some apps I don’t have the “Restore” button. Why ?
This is probably a system app that you don’t have anymore. System apps are part of your ROM, so Titanium Backup will only backup their data (not the apps themselves).
For this reason, if you backup a system app and then switch to a ROM where that app is missing, Titanium Backup obviously cannot restore the data for it. You have a data-only backup. Before you can restore the data you’ll need to install that system app again, either by reinstalling your ROM or by copying its apk manually into /system/app. I TRIED TO INSTALL JUST APPS/DATA. NO SYSTEM APPS.
If you had disabled the “Normal apps (apk)” and/or “Protected apps (apk)” options in the Backup settings, then all backups of your apps will be data-only, in which case you’ll need to re-install these apps manually before you can restore their data.
So, after deleting Rom from Slot1 (old Cm10 build) and adding the RC5 build, NOTHING was restored. How can this be??? Is there anyway that I can drag and drop files from my PC to the phone? Any and all ideas are appreciated.

[Guide] Backup Apps & Their Data for Rooted & Non-Rooted Devices

[Guide]
Backup Apps & Their Data for Rooted & Non-Rooted Devices​
Purpose: Let's say that you made a high score in subway surfers and you don't want to lose it, then you'll need these two apps to backup the game data.
Helium (Without Root Method):
Helium is an application by Koushik Dutta, who has also developed CWM Recovery.
Important Note:
Motorola devices are not supported due to a bug on Motorola’s part.
Requirements:
1. Rooted or unrooted device with android 4.0 or higher.
2. Computer and USB cable.
3. Helium on your android with Helium desktop app on your computer.
4. If you're using Windows, you've to install ADB drivers, but if you’re using Linux or MAC OS X don’t worry about this issue.
Helium - App Sync and Backup (Play Store link)
ADB Drivers and Helium desktop app
Instructions:
1. Run Helium desktop app and Helium on your device, then connect via USB cable. Wait just a few seconds, and Helium will be enabled. You can now disconnect your device.
Note :If you reboot your device you'll have to reconnect it to re-enable the app.
2. Now to backup, you must select the desired apps and games then click backup. You can select one by one or swipe up the bottom tab to select all. You can backup the app data only to make the backup less size but you must to redownload when restoring or you can back up data with apk (this is pretty helpful but with more size).
3. You can restore on your current device or on a new device using the same sdcard. I think you can also copy /sdcard/Carbon folder from the current sdcard to the new sdcard to restore.
- You can make schedule backups
- If you run to the premium version, you’ll be able to backup and restore from cloud storage.

Titanium Backup (Root Method) :
If you've a rooted device, you can benefit from Titanium Backup automation and flexibility without caring to android version. This app is more featured and works without connecting to computer.
Requirements:
1. Rooted device.
2. Titanium Backup on your android.
Titanium Backup ★ root (Play Store Link)
Instructions:
1. Start Titanium Backup and grant root permissions.
2. You'll see 3 tabs. Enter backup/restore page. You can now see a list of system, uninstalled and user apps which can be filtered.
3. Here you can manually select which apps to backup and restore.
4. Let’s say you want to run a full backup. Select the button on the top right of the screen (batch button) and you'll see many actions. Run “Backup all user apps” action. You can select what do you want to backup or select all. After figuring, tap the green checkmark.
5. For making a full restore, you can enter the batch actions and run “Restore all apps with data" action. The free version will make you press a yes dialog box for each app you want to restore, but the premium version does it all behind the scenes.
Important Notes:
1. Restoring system data can cause serious problems.
2. Restoring system data from one device to another will definitely cause problems.
- You can make schedule backups
- If you run to the premium version, you’ll be able to backup and restore from cloud storage.

Well I use Super Backup,it supports both rooted and non-rooted phone,no problems with it and its even free!
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XperianPro said:
Well I use Super Backup,it supports both rooted and non-rooted phone,no problems with it and its even free
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Super Backup makes backup for sms & contacts, where Titanum Backup and Helium makes backup for apps and their data (like a saved game in Angry Birds).

JohnHK said:
Super Backup makes backup for sms & contacts, where Titanum Backup and Helium makes backup for apps and their data (like a saved game in Angry Birds).
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Check again,it backups apks and their data.

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Check again,it backups apks and their data.
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OK, you're right, but it requires root. Non-rooted devices need Helium to backup app's data.
Any way, if my guide helped you or you liked it hit THANKS.

I have been trying to get Helium Desktop to install on my Windows 8 64bit PC and keeps giving me a missing DLL error and won't install! I have been searching the internet for days now and all I can read is that others have the same problem, but no one has posted a solution! I'm at wits end on this one! How do you get it installed and where can I find this missing DLL!?!

maw said:
I have been trying to get Helium Desktop to install on my Windows 8 64bit PC and keeps giving me a missing DLL error and won't install! I have been searching the internet for days now and all I can read is that others have the same problem, but no one has posted a solution! I'm at wits end on this one! How do you get it installed and where can I find this missing DLL!?!
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I had the same problem. It was related to having the Use as Media Device setting checked in the options. Once I unselected it the DLL files downloaded and installed. I don't know why but give it a try and see if that helps.

maw said:
I have been trying to get Helium Desktop to install on my Windows 8 64bit PC and keeps giving me a missing DLL error and won't install! I have been searching the internet for days now and all I can read is that others have the same problem, but no one has posted a solution! I'm at wits end on this one! How do you get it installed and where can I find this missing DLL!?!
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PMOttawa said:
I had the same problem. It was related to having the Use as Media Device setting checked in the options. Once I unselected it the DLL files downloaded and installed. I don't know why but give it a try and see if that helps.
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Actually I don't know how to solve this issue. Maybe you can contact the developer

Very good alternative to Titanium, I usually use Titanium along with a Dropbox account, but this can more, great stuff.

Helium and MDM
While Helium was a fabulous tool for backing up from one tablet and restoring to another, I've encountered an odd problem. The original tablet was rooted, but I used Helium in non-rooted status. Then I restored to a non-rooted tablet. Thereafter, I installed AirWatch MDM only to be told by AW that the new tablet is rooted. I've confirmed through various means that the new tablet is not rooted. However, I suspect Helium does something that trips a flag. Does anyone have any idea on how to clear the flag so that my unrooted tablet will look unrooted to AW?

marcekb said:
While Helium was a fabulous tool for backing up from one tablet and restoring to another, I've encountered an odd problem. The original tablet was rooted, but I used Helium in non-rooted status. Then I restored to a non-rooted tablet. Thereafter, I installed AirWatch MDM only to be told by AW that the new tablet is rooted. I've confirmed through various means that the new tablet is not rooted. However, I suspect Helium does something that trips a flag. Does anyone have any idea on how to clear the flag so that my unrooted tablet will look unrooted to AW?
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I suggest to contact the developer of Helium on Play Store and give him the details. Don't forget to tell him what's your tablet

JohnHK said:
I suggest to contact the developer of Helium on Play Store and give him the details. Don't forget to tell him what's your tablet
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can it use in unrooted gingerbread, i want to root it but i afraid to lose subway surfer data. how to use this helium then?

maulanaihsan said:
can it use in unrooted gingerbread, i want to root it but i afraid to lose subway surfer data. how to use this helium then?
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Hey, you can simply see the requirements in the OP
Helium works with rooted and unrooted Android devices but needs 4.0+. I think it won't work with ginger bread even if you have root. I hope that I helped

maw said:
I have been trying to get Helium Desktop to install on my Windows 8 64bit PC and keeps giving me a missing DLL error and won't install! I have been searching the internet for days now and all I can read is that others have the same problem, but no one has posted a solution! I'm at wits end on this one! How do you get it installed and where can I find this missing DLL!?!
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Hi maw,
Did you find a solution for this ? I have the same

Are there any apps that allow you to backup to your desktop? I want to be able to individual backups of the apps I currently have installed, delete the ones I don't use(I need the free space), with the much faster option of just sideloading them instead of having to redownload them from the play store. I don't have enough space on my tablet or phone to make Titanium or Helium backups. Thanks for any recommendations and help.
Edit: NVM found one

Insufficient permissions
When I tried running the shell script on Linux Mint 16 64-bit Petra, it just said
Code:
error: insufficient permissions for device
First I had a problem that the script required changing permissions of the script and adb, but that was not a big of an issue. This however, I don't know what to do with this. USB-debugging was enabled and device was connected.
Edit:
I got this working. I configured the USB-access in udev as per instructions of source(dot)android(dot)com/source/initializing.html#configuring-usb-access. Then I modified it's permissions to read-and-write
Code:
sudo chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
and then I also restarted udev by
Code:
sudo service udev restart
That did the trick and I managed to connect the device.

Problem on Windows 8.1 64 bit
Hi Guys, I've just upgraded my OS to Windows 8.1 64 bit, and each time I tried to connect my phone the OS haven't recognized the device. I looked at the device manager and I discovered a generic Android driver provided by Helium.
So I unistalled Helium, restored the USB drivers by Samsung Kies, and now the OS recognized my phone again.
WHy?
Thank you!
Antonio

Thanks for being here, forums, when I need to do something simple and just have a senior moment

Very often, I reset my data on the S3 for try new ROMs, and, every time, I have to re-download all the applications...
Can I backup last version of Helium APP (APK?), so I can install it after the first boot and restore applications?

google prey or similar apps to be installed as system app

i would like to install google prey or similar apps as an system app, or default app so when you factory reset the device it is already installed with the user and configuration, are the tutorials "installing app as system app" the ones that will work?
any tips for where to go or what to do? thanks

jvds said:
i would like to install google prey or similar apps as an system app, or default app so when you factory reset the device it is already installed with the user and configuration, are the tutorials "installing app as system app" the ones that will work?
any tips for where to go or what to do? thanks
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If you're rooted you can use Titanium Backup to convert it to a system app or you can use ES File Explorer with root explorer enabled to manually push it to your /system/app folder then boot to recovery and wipe cache and Dalvik/Art cache then reboot to system.
You can also use adb to adb push it to /system/app folder.
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Droidriven said:
If you're rooted you can use Titanium Backup to convert it to a system app or you can use ES File Explorer with root explorer enabled to manually push it to your /system/app folder then boot to recovery and wipe cache and Dalvik/Art cache then reboot to system.
You can also use adb to adb push it to /system/app folder.
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thanks, i tried it with airdroid, but factory reset still delete the settings, the app stays like intended but configurations and login to app is all gone. any tips?

jvds said:
will factory reset still delete it or delete the settings?
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It won't delete the app but it will delete the settings but you can also use Titanium Backup to backup and restore the app data for that app, you can also backup the app data to google and you can restore it from Google.
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Droidriven said:
It won't delete the app but it will delete the settings but you can also use Titanium Backup to backup and restore the app data for that app, you can also backup the app data to google and you can restore it from Google.
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but will titanium backup survive factory reset?
do any one know if you can also move the settings to specific locations to avoid them being deleted? for airdroid, or google prey or any other app that can track?
for airdroid the apk and the lib files hat to be moved to system folders and it stays after a factory reset, but anything that looses the settings over a factory reset is pretty much useless for stolen devices, the first step a thief takes is factory reset and format the device. all aps on play store is as good as nothing when it comes to recovering a stolen device. :silly:

jvds said:
but will titanium backup survive factory reset?
do any one know if you can also move the settings to specific locations to avoid them being deleted? for airdroid, or google prey or any other app that can track?
for airdroid the apk and the lib files hat to be moved to system folders and it stays after a factory reset, but anything that looses the settings over a factory reset is pretty much useless for stolen devices, the first step a thief takes is factory reset and format the device. all aps on play store is as good as nothing when it comes to recovering a stolen device. :silly:
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Titanium Backup will back up whatever apps, app data and settings that you want it to.
You can use Titanium Backup to make itself a system app, it won't get removed by the factory reset, then just use it to restore everything that you backed up.
There is plenty of information about all of this all over XDA and all over the internet if you'll just take the time to do some searching. Get off your butt and get to looking and you'll see.
As for the device being stolen, there are apps that you can install on the device that can be used to lock the device or wipe the device or even track the device to its location or last known location, whichever of those apps you use to secure your device can also be made into system apps using Titanium Backup. Then if its stolen and wiped the apps will still be there.
It isn't rocket science, why are you over thinking and complicating it?
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Droidriven said:
Titanium Backup will back up whatever apps, app data and settings that you want it to.
It isn't rocket science, why are you over thinking and complicating it?
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hi, i'm not trying to over complicating it, the thing is that i tried moving aps like google prey and airdroid that can locate a device to the system folders but when i factory reset the device, the apps are there but the configuration of the aps is gone, i want the configuration to stay alive with the aps, because thieves just factory reset the device at the moment they steal it and then you kiss your device good bye, at least if i can get the configuration to stay alive then i have a 50% chance against thieves, at the moment the chance is next to none.
the reason i ask is to not waste time testing things that some one already know, i searched but don't find good tutorials on that, and i'm not sure if Titanium Backup will work for that, i was expecting some one knowing the software like Titanium Backup can tel me that if i do convert an app to a system app with Titanium, that the system app and its configuration will sirvive a reset and not just the app.
i will test Titanium Backup later today when i have some free time, thanks

jvds said:
hi, i'm not trying to over complicating it, the thing is that i tried moving aps like google prey and airdroid that can locate a device to the system folders but when i factory reset the device, the apps are there but the configuration of the aps is gone, i want the configuration to stay alive with the aps, because thieves just factory reset the device at the moment they steal it and then you kiss your device good bye, at least if i can get the configuration to stay alive then i have a 50% chance against thieves, at the moment the chance is next to none.
the reason i ask is to not waste time testing things that some one already know, i searched but don't find good tutorials on that, and i'm not sure if Titanium Backup will work for that, i was expecting some one knowing the software like Titanium Backup can tel me that if i do convert an app to a system app with Titanium, that the system app and its configuration will sirvive a reset and not just the app.
i will test Titanium Backup later today when i have some free time, thanks
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Factory reset removes all data and settings when you factory reset even for system apps, there is no way to protect that data from a factory reset. You can back it up and restore it but you can't prevent it from being wiped.
There is an alternative though, you can remove the recovery, then turn USB debugging off then password/PIN protect your system settings app.
Removing recovery ensures that they can't use recovery to factory reset.
Turning off USB debugging ensures that they can't flash the device with PC or use adb/fastboot because PC won't recognise the device.
Password/PIN protecting your system settings app prevents them from getting into your system settings so they can't factory reset from settings.
The one issue with this setup is that if your device encounters an issue where it won't boot or bootloops then even YOU won't be able to fix it because you won't have recovery and you won't be able to connect to PC because you won't be able to get into settings to turn USB debugging back on to be able to flash it.
Research these things to verify its safe to do on your device because all devices are different and things are different depending on the device in question.
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thank you

I'm interested in this topic, since nobody seems care that much to write up a friendly method to do that...

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These guys claim to know these things but fail to even give a link to a tutorial on how to do it. Its infuriating. They tell us to research but asking here on XDA is part of research. Pls give a valid tutorial on how to secure prey data so it doesn't get deleted.