Hi all !
I just post here to talk about ( again ? ) Beats audio.
After Many tests on many roms ( Beats / No Beats ) the results are here :
Take a 2.3.4 Without Beats audio Audio quality is really fine !
even in Bleutooth A2DP, Stereo Headsets or in speaker-mode.
Now with a 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 With Beats audio :
Audio is crappy With HTC Player in speaker-mode and A2DP.
When you plug headsets it enable beats then you have a nice quality but very very close to stock 2.3.4 without Beats.....
BTW you can listen to Music on deezer or spotify your have a nice quality without any probleme in A2DP or speakermode or Stereo-headsets.
What do you think about it ?
Best regards all !
I already said this. When u have beats kn the phone, htc makes the regular sound sojnd ****ty, and enable beats, and it raises it to a little better than nornal
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You can't enable Beats in A2DP....
Is there a way to have both beats and the original equalizer??
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It's a gimmick. CM7's DSP Manager is better, imo.
I prefer using Poweramp and its equalizer presets. Sounds great!
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But I really like the HTC equaliser .. DSP manager somtimes creates overload in my music.. and power amp has a unpolished ui..
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It's a gimmick. CM7's DSP Manager is better, imo.
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I totally agree with this.
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Htc equaliser is bwtter. But good to have it and beats. How to get this?
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You can't enable Beats in A2DP....
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I installed a Revolution HD Rom 3.6.2 but I have the same problem. Beats Audio doesn't work with A2DP. Have you found a solution? any fix?
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This. Works excellently
Beats is made for beats, not other headphones. K? Got it? Cool. Stop *****ing.
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I personally quite like the difference Beats makes with the stock earbuds, maybe that's just me
It seems to pull the sound "forwards", if that makes sense, and gives it a slightly richer sound. Yeah, CM7's equalizer probably does just as well, but I'm not on CM7 yet.
I personally find that beats is much better for my ears than CM7 + DSP on my non stock reference bud phones.
CM7 is alpha state and not quite ready for prime time... there are audio artifacts still in there so the sound quality isn't quite clean as yet... but it will get there.
ver8 is much better than ver7
Overall however, The CURRENT audio quality for CM7 is horrible and i listen to a lot of classical music... for example: violin plucking and bowing sound terrible on CM7 but sound quite decent on Beats... that is quite a shame as Beats isn't much more than an EQ tuning for the Beats headset... and i am not using Beats headsets im using expensive Reference buds.
Right now I am looking for a better EQ app on market to replace beats as it does have its short comings as well.
Poweramp sounds better than beats but its ui is garbage to me
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Here's my opinion on this whole beats fiasco.
All beats focus on is BASS. The more the better. It smallens the sound stage, which is why some feel like it's "closer"
DSP manager is not tuned for you. You tune it yourself, as music is subjective to each person. I might like bass, but you might not. So tune it yourself.
Think of DSP as cookie dough and Beats as ready baked cookies. Some like ready baked cookies, but some want to fine tune it themselves, adding chocolate or ****.
All in all, I HATE beats. It's nothing but a marketing scheme to me.
Yes, at one hand it's maketing. And it's working. There are options with better sound. But, if you like bass based music, Dr Dre's sound is quiet good. The Beats headphones are strong, at least I like the cable. It's a better headphone with a smaller range of happy users.
I like bass music a lot!
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Beats is made for beats, not other headphones. K? Got it? Cool. Stop *****ing.
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Plus one fukin thousand people on this forum are such haters. At the end of the day ....
Stock sensation: my dhd with srs sounded WAY better
Sensation xe: best audio quality on any phone I've tried, it makes so much difference.
P.s I listen to music about 2/3 hours a day and I use beats studios so I can deffo tell the difference.
Oh and don't criticize beats on 3.5 Rom because we haven't got a proper port, the mods we got sound nothing like native beats on xe.
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Poweramp sounds better than beats but its ui is garbage to me
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Find me a setting combo on power amp that's better then beats & ill give you £100
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Find me a setting combo on power amp that's better then beats & ill give you £100
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Its impossible. Music depends on the person listening to it. Why so you think there are so many headphone manufacturers out there? What works for you might not work for him. You can't benchmark a headphone.
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So after using Beats for a while, and then reinstalling PowerAmp, I've come to the conclusion that PowerAmp kicks the sh*t out of Beats. I dont use BT for music so I dont know how PowerAmp sounds over BT, but my headphones are nearly twice as loud on PowerAmp as they are on Beats mods, Dolby or HTC Surround. Plus the bass sounds WAY better. I have a pair of Bose ear plugs, and without a doubt the rock harder thru PowerAmp. How about you?
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Beats is terrible. I pity the fool the who thinks it's good. It's like saying $10 wine is great without every having tried better ones.
Are using the beats mods or the actaul XE Rom? Cause the XE rom beats audio sounds great to me.
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I'm using the revolution rom with it cooked in and I think the sound quality is better. I uninstalled all music players and am using the HTC player now with some tweaks from Volume+
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I used mods, roms, stock, and everything else. Even winamp. PowerAmp kills em all. I cant listen to it full volume on PowerAmp. Where I really test is in transit. I cant hear even big trucks drive by me with poweramp. Beats and the rest of them sound terrible compared, and I hear traffic noise from smaller vehicles. Not to mention PowerAmp can run off or on headphones, and has an 8 band equalizer with a Preamp. It was my very first purchase from the Market and has been worth every penny. It lays the competition to waste. Not even Dsp manager can compare. I hate to be free advertising but I find it hard to believe HTC is being outgunned by a Market app. Beats is supposed to be The Best right? Got some work to do on that I think!
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Its hilarious that it is marketed as an enhancement, when it doesn't even have settings. It seems to be merely a ****ty eq you cant adjust.
Does anyone in this thread have beats headphones or have tried them?
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Does anyone in this thread have beats headphones or have tried them?
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I have. They are nice. Not amazing though. The cable is a ribbon, which is cool. Overpriced.
Tried them too. Not worth it. I have Shure and they kick their arse
Beats is awful. HTC player can't even do flac format.
Beats does nothing for me...
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Beats is awful. HTC player can't even do flac format.
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One more reason to use poweramp.
I have poweramp and playerpro installed on my sensation. I use both of them, and I like them both. Can't decide which one I like better
I used to use Poweramp, but then thought I'd try Playerpro.
Have to say Playerppro is much better. The UI is beautiful. And with the free DSP Pack on the Market, the EQ is just as good as the Poweramp one.
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I used to use Poweramp, but then thought I'd try Playerpro.
Have to say Playerppro is much better. The UI is beautiful. And with the free DSP Pack on the Market, the EQ is just as good as the Poweramp one.
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Agreed. The new playerpro has a new updated dsp pack v2, and the UI is indeed better than poweramp. Not to mention that playerpro does not run in the background like poweramp.
I mainly only listen to metal and hardcore music, so beats was obviously a flop for my tast. I love poweramp, I like being able to make my own eq setting. Im interested in this "playerpro" but how much is it after the trial is up?? I already purchased poweramp so would it be worth buying another player?
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I mainly only listen to metal and hardcore music, so beats was obviously a flop for my tast. I love poweramp, I like being able to make my own eq setting. Im interested in this "playerpro" but how much is it after the trial is up?? I already purchased poweramp so would it be worth buying another player?
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I had already ppurchased Poweramp, but tried Playerpro and bought it too...after all , it's not exactly big money
playerpro has a "DSP Pack" free on the market, which extends the EQ and makes it pretty much identical to the Poweramp one.
Anyone as disappointed as I am in the in the winamp app? Doesn't even have an EQ or presets. booh
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I had already ppurchased Poweramp, but tried Playerpro and bought it too...after all , it's not exactly big money
playerpro has a "DSP Pack" free on the market, which extends the EQ and makes it pretty much identical to the Poweramp one.
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Ok I've played with Player Pro and I must say the UI is much better then poweramp. I just can't get equal or better audio quality as i can with poweramp. I may just need some more time with it.
O and sorry to the OP, seems this thread has been hijacked into a player discussion. With beats only limited to the htc player, it really has limitations
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Ok I've played with Player Pro and I must say the UI is much better then poweramp. I just can't get equal or better audio quality as i can with poweramp. I may just need some more time with it.
O and sorry to the OP, seems this thread has been hijacked into a player discussion. With beats only limited to the htc player, it really has limitations
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Did you install the DSP Pack from Market?
Yea, sorry OP I also find the beats mod rather "average"...
Hi guys, i was wondering if the beats audio mode is available for desire s?
I am curently using runnymede 1.5.1 ported by proxuser from cappy's release.
Thanks
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I'm not sure how you turn it on but I'm pretty sure that the runymede rom has it
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I've searched the entire rom but could not find beats audio....so if anyone has any sugestions, they are welcomed
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cpx07 said:
I've searched the entire rom but could not find beats audio....so if anyone has any sugestions, they are welcomed
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The Rom has beats in it
Launch the default music app & play any song you should get a option in the notification bar allowing you to enable or disable beats
If this does not happen try pressing the menu soft button in the player when the song is playing then choose sound enhancers & choose beats
There is now a flahable zip available for any sense Rom to have beats
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I am trying beats audio now on Hyperion Rom.
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What exactly does the beats do?
That's a good new.
I'm considering go back to s-off.
Any way to get beats working with Power AMP?
is it possible to set beats audio on miui?
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is it possible to set beats audio on miui?
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No.
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Similar thread to one in the General section. Here's my post from that one;
Beats Audio is basically Dr. Dre's idea of what EQ settings you should have when some Beats Audio high performance equipment is plugged in. A stock phone with Beats Audio (Sensation XE) will detect the official Beats headphones (somehow) and Beats Audio will apply a certain EQ.
It's not like beats audio means it has any special audio processing hardware. It is simply an EQ tailored to get the "best" sound out of a specific set of headphones (and make Dr. Dre more ‘paper’). If you are not planning on using Beats headphones, then it is kinda redundant. I'm simply curious to see if this EQ is better than my custom one using PowerAmp. (PowerAmp is also currently running a 2.0 Beta from their website. Check it out.)
I have yet to test it myself, but I would imagine that unless you are planning on splashing out £100+ on Beats headphones, you are best of sticking with using PowerAmp and it's awesome equaliser to tune the sound to best suit the headphones you already have. Much Cheaper! Also the hack that needs to be applied, so that beats activates with any headphones can't possibly apply a different EQ for each set of headphones. It'll be one fixed bass/treble tweak designed to compliment the Beats headphones bundled with the Sensation XE. That's the best reason to get the XE. Those headphones would normally cost over £100 and are meant to be very good.
Since we are on the topic, we all know the headphones supplied with the Desire S are shocking. I can highly recommend the a-Jays One. IMO you'll not get a better sound for £20! Plus the cable is truly tangle-free! I'd have been very happy with these had they cost me £60.
(Also wins the prize for the most over-packaged product I've ever bought. The case is good for keeping anything you want to survive the nuclear apocolypse.)
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/a-jays-on...nes-p25661.htm
Check out the reviews. Especially the one from 'Will' from Nottingham!
Who is the man with the master plan?
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Similar thread to one in the General section. Here's my post from that one;
Beats Audio is basically Dr. Dre's idea of what EQ settings you should have when some Beats Audio high performance equipment is plugged in. A stock phone with Beats Audio (Sensation XE) will detect the official Beats headphones (somehow) and Beats Audio will apply a certain EQ.
It's not like beats audio means it has any special audio processing hardware. It is simply an EQ tailored to get the "best" sound out of a specific set of headphones (and make Dr. Dre more ‘paper’). If you are not planning on using Beats headphones, then it is kinda redundant. I'm simply curious to see if this EQ is better than my custom one using PowerAmp. (PowerAmp is also currently running a 2.0 Beta from their website. Check it out.)
I have yet to test it myself, but I would imagine that unless you are planning on splashing out £100+ on Beats headphones, you are best of sticking with using PowerAmp and it's awesome equaliser to tune the sound to best suit the headphones you already have. Much Cheaper! Also the hack that needs to be applied, so that beats activates with any headphones can't possibly apply a different EQ for each set of headphones. It'll be one fixed bass/treble tweak designed to compliment the Beats headphones bundled with the Sensation XE. That's the best reason to get the XE. Those headphones would normally cost over £100 and are meant to be very good.
Since we are on the topic, we all know the headphones supplied with the Desire S are shocking. I can highly recommend the a-Jays One. IMO you'll not get a better sound for £20! Plus the cable is truly tangle-free! I'd have been very happy with these had they cost me £60.
(Also wins the prize for the most over-packaged product I've ever bought. The case is good for keeping anything you want to survive the nuclear apocolypse.)
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/a-jays-on...nes-p25661.htm
Check out the reviews. Especially the one from 'Will' from Nottingham!
Who is the man with the master plan?
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Nice
I tried beats, tbh not much if a differnce with my senheiser cx-200s. It jut amplifies the sound quality a but, and makes the music sound 'brighter'
Still yet to try it on my friends beats solo HD pair.
My senheisers broke, (keeps losing conncetion) so I'm looking for a new pair. Will check out your review for those headphones!
EDIT: the link you posted doesn't direct me to the product
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olyloh6696 said:
There is now a flahable zip available for any sense Rom to have beats
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can you plz provide the link for that??
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can you plz provide the link for that??
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Dude, my post is more than a year ago!
No idea now!
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How to add beats audio on my stock roted rom 2.3.5 with sense 3.
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How to add beats audio on my stock roted rom 2.3.5 with sense 3.
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that's a good question i would like to add beats audio on my desire s stock 2.3.5 sense 3.0 too... so is it posible and how ??
beats on a non rooted has not yet been released on any app...but player pro music player is actually trying for it,hopefully they get it in their next release.
why not update to snese 3.5
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How to add beats audio on my stock roted rom 2.3.5 with sense 3.
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If you have rooted, install CWM recovery, make nandroid backup..flash Endymion 3.3 ROM, Which is awesome and that is my daily use ROM with lots of feature. I think beats audio is only available in custom ROM.
Is Beats Audio really that good?
Whats the difference to winamp i.e.??
i've read that you have to use beat earphone to know the difference.
i prefer srs sound.. beats mode have to much hight frequency.
Yes this lets understand this Beats Audio a bit better first. I used to ask for it until I read a bit more into it.
Firstly, it’s mostly a marketing gimmick. It is not as if any ‘Beats’ phones have any special sound processing hardware. It is simply someone’s idea of the best EQ setting, designed specifically to match a pair of Beats Audio headphones. Dr Dre has then stuck his name on it, to make him lots of money and lend some street credibility to it. Yo.
It sort of makes sense only if you are using official Beats headphones, on official Beats equipment. What normally happens is that the official Beats phone (lets say for the sake of argument it’s the HTC Sensation XE) recognises when official Beats headphones are plugged into it. It then applies this beats EQ, which is specifically designed to get the most out of this specific set of headphones.
Custom ROMs are simply snatching this part of the ROM from the Sensation XE, plonking it on your custom ROM, and frigging the headphone input detection so that it thinks ANY headphones plugged in are official Beats headphones.
The result will be a forced EQ that unless your are using the Beats headphones bundled with the XE, will be completely mis-matched to the headphones you are using. Likely as not it will sound pony. I’ve tried it on 3 sets of headphones ranging from cheap £10 efforts, a mid-range pair of Skull Candys, and my nice new pair of a-Jays. In all three cases I was better off using a decent player app like PowerAmp, and using the EQ in that to tune the sound to match the headphones being used.
Excellent statement, wnp, and very well put together
I agree, I use beats on my pair of bog standard Phillips in-ear headphones and to be honest, I cannot tell the difference.
Also beats company are well known to be as gimmicky as Apple selling way overpriced products.
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Thank You for this nice overview.
It is just what i thought it is.. marketing..
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Yes this lets understand this Beats Audio a bit better first. I used to ask for it until I read a bit more into it.
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Excellent lowdown on the whole beats thingy man! Thanks a ton. BTW I use beats Monster audio headphones and they make pretty awesome earphones...especially the in ear type...
As far as the beats audio software is concerned...I completely agree with you. I have yet to find anything that sounds better than poweramp no matter what earphone you use...Beats, Bose or otherwise...!
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Excellent statement, wnp, and very well put together
I agree, I use beats on my pair of bog standard Phillips in-ear headphones and to be honest, I cannot tell the difference.
Also beats company are well known to be as gimmicky as Apple selling way overpriced products.
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finally a phillips user, i too use the cheap she9700
btw any suggestion for the ringtone or message notification sound maybe from zedge, the external speaker sounds so low that i can barely hear it.
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i have used it on a rom and i can tell you that it isn't anything special if you are using stock earphones, to get the most out of beats you will need beat headphones.. i was all excited as you are until i experienced it
i tried it on CoreDroid rom...
And i must say that id did sound better on iFROGZ headphones... So better that i used stock player instead of my favourite PlayerPro.
Ofcourse, beats can't be anything else than propperly set equilizer...
I hope that guys from PlayerPro will include it in their next release.
wnp_79 said it all, this is exactly the case because it reminds me of apple when i see this, and htc bought beats so we're coming closer to the apple territory.
and thats why im searching for an srs like effect for my cm7 since it was so good when i had the stock sense.. any ideas?
Using beats on my desire S
I can still say theres quality in the music..
Can say it makes a huge difference using pro Sennheiser and Technics headphones. (not in ear ones)
first Thread here, please be kind.
first of all, awesome website, awesome developers, and awesome ARHD roms.
i flashed my sensation with ARHD sensation XE rom and it has been nothing but awsome so far. however, as a audiophile myself, i cannot help but noticed something changed in the audio department.
with the default HTC audio player, the music became almost unlistenable without Beats enabled. the overwhelming amount of bass pretty much ruins everything. I don't recall this was the case before flashing the ARHD rom. and when i use 3rd party player (like Winamp) with no EQ change, the music is on par with using HTC audio player with Beats turned on.
so here is my theory:
1. HTC is really play dirty here by purposely making the musics sounds so bad that user has to enable the Beats audio on models that support Beats audio.
2. Sensation is not compatible with Senstion XE rom?
is this an isolated case? or are you guys all experiencing it?
Thanks
Never had that, flash again maybe?
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yes... I also facing same issue when listen to music using poweramp. But as far as I know beats function only work with stock music player.
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i think i flashed a number of times and i have noticed this every time.
could you do test on your phone?
listen to a music file with HTC music player with beats off, and beast on.
and listen to the same file with a 3rd party player with flat eq setting.
since 3rd party player cannot trigger beats audio, it should sound just like HTC player with Beats disabled.
my problem is it sounded like HTC player with beats enabled, while the HTC player with beats disabled sounds like carp (granted my head phone cost as much as sensation itself so i might hear a bit more, but the difference should be very significant to spot with just regular earphones)
For ICS, HTC have modified the Beats algorithm (imho)
So now, beats enabled is as the player should be,
Beats disabled, has HTC crippling the sound to make Beats sound better than it is
I think.....
A very nice posting from my ARHD XE
Sorry but.... do you guys use piracy OLD version of power amp? New version of it has Beats Audio in EQ. Better just buy Power Amp and get an update with Beats Audio in EQ And on topic, I don`t have this issue. Maybe it`s related on headphones, as I`m using headphones from SE Xperia Arc S, but with some others headphones sound is really bad.
I don't use Beats anymore as it sucks out my battery.
Google Music has pretty nice sound, don't need more than that.
I've found that using dsp manager as well as beats audio gives the best sound.
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Okay I flashed the cyanogenmod rom... and im not sure if i still have my beats audio because everytime it used to show a beats audio logo on the top and even in the notification bar and it had a circle with a green check next to it giving u the option to turn off and on beats audio...now not so much.. can someone tell me if i do or not and can u help me get it back if not?
Beats audio was more of a software than a hardware feature on the One X. The cm10 people and probably most of the us who use it would prefer and point you towards the DSPManager app that is installed. That gives you a fuller control over the equalizer and is typically better than the beats audio software.
Also try jet audio player.. It's awesome and has an equalizer, a bunch of presets, and you can really tweak the sounds.. I look in the themes and apps to find a copy
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You should be glad.
Beats audio is just a gimmick. An equalizer, a software feature, not hardware.
The audio engine that comes with CM10 is much better , and acid audio,,etc.
hyun18 said:
You should be glad.
Beats audio is just a gimmick. An equalizer, a software feature, not hardware.
The audio engine that comes with CM10 is much better , and acid audio,,etc.
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Agreed. Beats isn't even necessary if you use an amplifier like Poweramp. What Beats adds is hardly anything but a bit of low bass resonance. If its off and you have an equalizer you can easily make up the sound difference with said equalizer.
I happen to enjoy Poweramp. It turns my car audio setup Into an even more powerful stereo due to preamp etc.
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