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[info] Beats Audio ... Fake optimisation..

Hi all !
I just post here to talk about ( again ? ) Beats audio.
After Many tests on many roms ( Beats / No Beats ) the results are here :
Take a 2.3.4 Without Beats audio Audio quality is really fine !
even in Bleutooth A2DP, Stereo Headsets or in speaker-mode.
Now with a 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 With Beats audio :
Audio is crappy With HTC Player in speaker-mode and A2DP.
When you plug headsets it enable beats then you have a nice quality but very very close to stock 2.3.4 without Beats.....
BTW you can listen to Music on deezer or spotify your have a nice quality without any probleme in A2DP or speakermode or Stereo-headsets.
What do you think about it ?
Best regards all !

I already said this. When u have beats kn the phone, htc makes the regular sound sojnd ****ty, and enable beats, and it raises it to a little better than nornal
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You can't enable Beats in A2DP....

Is there a way to have both beats and the original equalizer??
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It's a gimmick. CM7's DSP Manager is better, imo.

I prefer using Poweramp and its equalizer presets. Sounds great!
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But I really like the HTC equaliser .. DSP manager somtimes creates overload in my music.. and power amp has a unpolished ui..
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aNYthing24 said:
It's a gimmick. CM7's DSP Manager is better, imo.
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I totally agree with this.
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Htc equaliser is bwtter. But good to have it and beats. How to get this?
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HaKyLON said:
You can't enable Beats in A2DP....
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I installed a Revolution HD Rom 3.6.2 but I have the same problem. Beats Audio doesn't work with A2DP. Have you found a solution? any fix?

aNYthing24 said:
It's a gimmick. CM7's DSP Manager is better, imo.
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This. Works excellently

Beats is made for beats, not other headphones. K? Got it? Cool. Stop *****ing.
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I personally quite like the difference Beats makes with the stock earbuds, maybe that's just me
It seems to pull the sound "forwards", if that makes sense, and gives it a slightly richer sound. Yeah, CM7's equalizer probably does just as well, but I'm not on CM7 yet.

I personally find that beats is much better for my ears than CM7 + DSP on my non stock reference bud phones.
CM7 is alpha state and not quite ready for prime time... there are audio artifacts still in there so the sound quality isn't quite clean as yet... but it will get there.
ver8 is much better than ver7
Overall however, The CURRENT audio quality for CM7 is horrible and i listen to a lot of classical music... for example: violin plucking and bowing sound terrible on CM7 but sound quite decent on Beats... that is quite a shame as Beats isn't much more than an EQ tuning for the Beats headset... and i am not using Beats headsets im using expensive Reference buds.
Right now I am looking for a better EQ app on market to replace beats as it does have its short comings as well.

Poweramp sounds better than beats but its ui is garbage to me
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Here's my opinion on this whole beats fiasco.
All beats focus on is BASS. The more the better. It smallens the sound stage, which is why some feel like it's "closer"
DSP manager is not tuned for you. You tune it yourself, as music is subjective to each person. I might like bass, but you might not. So tune it yourself.
Think of DSP as cookie dough and Beats as ready baked cookies. Some like ready baked cookies, but some want to fine tune it themselves, adding chocolate or ****.
All in all, I HATE beats. It's nothing but a marketing scheme to me.

Yes, at one hand it's maketing. And it's working. There are options with better sound. But, if you like bass based music, Dr Dre's sound is quiet good. The Beats headphones are strong, at least I like the cable. It's a better headphone with a smaller range of happy users.
I like bass music a lot!
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austendale9 said:
Beats is made for beats, not other headphones. K? Got it? Cool. Stop *****ing.
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Plus one fukin thousand people on this forum are such haters. At the end of the day ....
Stock sensation: my dhd with srs sounded WAY better
Sensation xe: best audio quality on any phone I've tried, it makes so much difference.
P.s I listen to music about 2/3 hours a day and I use beats studios so I can deffo tell the difference.
Oh and don't criticize beats on 3.5 Rom because we haven't got a proper port, the mods we got sound nothing like native beats on xe.

piimp said:
Poweramp sounds better than beats but its ui is garbage to me
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Find me a setting combo on power amp that's better then beats & ill give you £100

vincepg13 said:
Find me a setting combo on power amp that's better then beats & ill give you £100
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Its impossible. Music depends on the person listening to it. Why so you think there are so many headphone manufacturers out there? What works for you might not work for him. You can't benchmark a headphone.
Sent g.

[Q] Dre beats media player on sensation

I have a sensation and I was looking to upgrade my media player tobthe dre beats branded player. Is there a way to do it? Or would my best bet be to just wait for the ics update since ics introduces music equalizer into the os?

Sadly the sensation won't get beats audio MOD, as far as I have heard. But you can install a custom rom, which includes that MOD. But to be honest it isn't that good.

Is the dre beats app just like an equalizer on roids?
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No, Beats audio mod is an addon which is featured in the current HTC phones, the sensation is the one without it. But you could flash a ROM, which includes it. But I wouldn't recommend that, as it isn't worth taking a risk bricking your device, for something stupid as that.

Oh ok I have yet to root my sensation because I know HTC is building a stable ics update. So basically it'll be better to just wait for ics and use the equalizer built into the os?
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Yeah, that is one way to say it

And one more question for you, and im out of your hair. I currently have a rooted evo I use it to listen to my music. Its rooted with cyanogenmod and I use a good pair of skullcandy headphones i keep bass boost enabled is that pretty much the same outcome to dre beats? I mean I understand dre beats are clearer but in terms of volume and bass?
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Beats audio

How to add beats audio on my stock roted rom 2.3.5 with sense 3.
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straian said:
How to add beats audio on my stock roted rom 2.3.5 with sense 3.
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that's a good question i would like to add beats audio on my desire s stock 2.3.5 sense 3.0 too... so is it posible and how ??

beats on a non rooted has not yet been released on any app...but player pro music player is actually trying for it,hopefully they get it in their next release.

why not update to snese 3.5

straian said:
How to add beats audio on my stock roted rom 2.3.5 with sense 3.
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If you have rooted, install CWM recovery, make nandroid backup..flash Endymion 3.3 ROM, Which is awesome and that is my daily use ROM with lots of feature. I think beats audio is only available in custom ROM.

Is Beats Audio really that good?
Whats the difference to winamp i.e.??

i've read that you have to use beat earphone to know the difference.

i prefer srs sound.. beats mode have to much hight frequency.

Yes this lets understand this Beats Audio a bit better first. I used to ask for it until I read a bit more into it.
Firstly, it’s mostly a marketing gimmick. It is not as if any ‘Beats’ phones have any special sound processing hardware. It is simply someone’s idea of the best EQ setting, designed specifically to match a pair of Beats Audio headphones. Dr Dre has then stuck his name on it, to make him lots of money and lend some street credibility to it. Yo.
It sort of makes sense only if you are using official Beats headphones, on official Beats equipment. What normally happens is that the official Beats phone (lets say for the sake of argument it’s the HTC Sensation XE) recognises when official Beats headphones are plugged into it. It then applies this beats EQ, which is specifically designed to get the most out of this specific set of headphones.
Custom ROMs are simply snatching this part of the ROM from the Sensation XE, plonking it on your custom ROM, and frigging the headphone input detection so that it thinks ANY headphones plugged in are official Beats headphones.
The result will be a forced EQ that unless your are using the Beats headphones bundled with the XE, will be completely mis-matched to the headphones you are using. Likely as not it will sound pony. I’ve tried it on 3 sets of headphones ranging from cheap £10 efforts, a mid-range pair of Skull Candys, and my nice new pair of a-Jays. In all three cases I was better off using a decent player app like PowerAmp, and using the EQ in that to tune the sound to match the headphones being used.

Excellent statement, wnp, and very well put together
I agree, I use beats on my pair of bog standard Phillips in-ear headphones and to be honest, I cannot tell the difference.
Also beats company are well known to be as gimmicky as Apple selling way overpriced products.
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@ wnp_79
Thank You for this nice overview.
It is just what i thought it is.. marketing..

wnp_79 said:
Yes this lets understand this Beats Audio a bit better first. I used to ask for it until I read a bit more into it.
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Excellent lowdown on the whole beats thingy man! Thanks a ton. BTW I use beats Monster audio headphones and they make pretty awesome earphones...especially the in ear type...
As far as the beats audio software is concerned...I completely agree with you. I have yet to find anything that sounds better than poweramp no matter what earphone you use...Beats, Bose or otherwise...!
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.

SRS is better than Beats audio, and in all case, Egalizer do the same

olyloh6696 said:
Excellent statement, wnp, and very well put together
I agree, I use beats on my pair of bog standard Phillips in-ear headphones and to be honest, I cannot tell the difference.
Also beats company are well known to be as gimmicky as Apple selling way overpriced products.
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finally a phillips user, i too use the cheap she9700
btw any suggestion for the ringtone or message notification sound maybe from zedge, the external speaker sounds so low that i can barely hear it.

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i have used it on a rom and i can tell you that it isn't anything special if you are using stock earphones, to get the most out of beats you will need beat headphones.. i was all excited as you are until i experienced it

i tried it on CoreDroid rom...
And i must say that id did sound better on iFROGZ headphones... So better that i used stock player instead of my favourite PlayerPro.
Ofcourse, beats can't be anything else than propperly set equilizer...
I hope that guys from PlayerPro will include it in their next release.

wnp_79 said it all, this is exactly the case because it reminds me of apple when i see this, and htc bought beats so we're coming closer to the apple territory.
and thats why im searching for an srs like effect for my cm7 since it was so good when i had the stock sense.. any ideas?

Using beats on my desire S
I can still say theres quality in the music..

Can say it makes a huge difference using pro Sennheiser and Technics headphones. (not in ear ones)

Beats audio in ARHD rom?

first Thread here, please be kind.
first of all, awesome website, awesome developers, and awesome ARHD roms.
i flashed my sensation with ARHD sensation XE rom and it has been nothing but awsome so far. however, as a audiophile myself, i cannot help but noticed something changed in the audio department.
with the default HTC audio player, the music became almost unlistenable without Beats enabled. the overwhelming amount of bass pretty much ruins everything. I don't recall this was the case before flashing the ARHD rom. and when i use 3rd party player (like Winamp) with no EQ change, the music is on par with using HTC audio player with Beats turned on.
so here is my theory:
1. HTC is really play dirty here by purposely making the musics sounds so bad that user has to enable the Beats audio on models that support Beats audio.
2. Sensation is not compatible with Senstion XE rom?
is this an isolated case? or are you guys all experiencing it?
Thanks

Never had that, flash again maybe?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA

yes... I also facing same issue when listen to music using poweramp. But as far as I know beats function only work with stock music player.

Sensation-al! said:
Never had that, flash again maybe?
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i think i flashed a number of times and i have noticed this every time.
could you do test on your phone?
listen to a music file with HTC music player with beats off, and beast on.
and listen to the same file with a 3rd party player with flat eq setting.
since 3rd party player cannot trigger beats audio, it should sound just like HTC player with Beats disabled.
my problem is it sounded like HTC player with beats enabled, while the HTC player with beats disabled sounds like carp (granted my head phone cost as much as sensation itself so i might hear a bit more, but the difference should be very significant to spot with just regular earphones)

For ICS, HTC have modified the Beats algorithm (imho)
So now, beats enabled is as the player should be,
Beats disabled, has HTC crippling the sound to make Beats sound better than it is
I think.....
A very nice posting from my ARHD XE

Sorry but.... do you guys use piracy OLD version of power amp? New version of it has Beats Audio in EQ. Better just buy Power Amp and get an update with Beats Audio in EQ And on topic, I don`t have this issue. Maybe it`s related on headphones, as I`m using headphones from SE Xperia Arc S, but with some others headphones sound is really bad.

I don't use Beats anymore as it sucks out my battery.
Google Music has pretty nice sound, don't need more than that.

I've found that using dsp manager as well as beats audio gives the best sound.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA

[MODE] Beats SystemWide Improved for SENSE 4(big update coming tomorrow!)

this is a mode made to improve beats sound system for sense 4 roms (only works with latest ville c 1.11 base)
this will enhance the bass more and make sound more pure and clean
try it and im telling you that you wont regret that.
tell me what you think and if you like, hit the thanks button.
link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/95dc6b30hyrb7ze/Beats SystemWide Improved V3.5.zip

Thank you, I'm flashing it

Tabtoub said:
Thank you, I'm flashing it
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How's the difference?

Hi there, great job, the mod is working great Pkmn ROM v5.1.

Isn't it just a preset for an equalizer? Or does it actually enhance the sound quality by improving bitrate and whatsoever
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA

I've been looking forward to this.Thanks for your contribution .

can u make it to work out to HTC Evo 3D??
appreciate your works ,
Thanks..

I'm the lucky few.. Who tested it...
And believe me it will mesmerise you...
The beats is absolute awesome.. The best I ever heard
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

No difference lol. Duno but prolly because im using triple.fi 10
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I'm running ordroid 9.0.0 and i flashed ur mod.
mb it's me but i didn't notice any big differences.
also after flashing ur rom i see that the dolby eq doesn't stuck, even if i try switching from eq settings

tried on baad sense 4,im on headset and on same volume, no effect appears louder than beats audio. is it supposed to be like that? :s

Can I use beats audio with bluetooth Beats wireless headphones?
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x3nophobia said:
tried on baad sense 4,im on headset and on same volume, no effect appears louder than beats audio. is it supposed to be like that? :s
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You should have more dynamics and bass but not louder...
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iasellax said:
Can I use beats audio with bluetooth Beats wireless headphones?
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Yes
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I'm on Ordroid 9.0.0. with Bricked kernel.
Using the Beats headphones that came with the Sensation XE (bought separately, i'm using a standard Sensation) plugged into the headphone socket, I notice much clearer and crisper sound using the Beats effect and there is a noticeable difference between each of the other equalization modes. The bass is increased drastically on the SRS setting, so much so that it's more powerful than the Beats setting.
But when i plug the same headphones into my Sony Ericsson MW600 bluetooth headset there doesn't seem to be hardly any effect and the Beats icon does not appear in the notification bar even after changing to no effect and back to Beats.
Also, when directly plugged in, in the notification drag down there is an entry as to which sound effect i am currently using and it can be changed from there. When using the bluetooth headset this is totally missing.
If you could get the same functions via bluetooth this would be an excellent improvement!

colosos70 said:
I'm on Ordroid 9.0.0. with Bricked kernel.
Using the Beats headphones that came with the Sensation XE (bought separately, i'm using a standard Sensation) plugged into the headphone socket, I notice much clearer and crisper sound using the Beats effect and there is a noticeable difference between each of the other equalization modes. The bass is increased drastically on the SRS setting, so much so that it's more powerful than the Beats setting.
But when i plug the same headphones into my Sony Ericsson MW600 bluetooth headset there doesn't seem to be hardly any effect and the Beats icon does not appear in the notification bar even after changing to no effect and back to Beats.
Also, when directly plugged in, in the notification drag down there is an entry as to which sound effect i am currently using and it can be changed from there. When using the bluetooth headset this is totally missing.
If you could get the same functions via bluetooth this would be an excellent improvement!
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+1
@Rico do you have any news?
Inviato dal mio HTC Sensation Z710e

wow.....the bass is so beautiful...lov u

tristan6100 said:
Isn't it just a preset for an equalizer? Or does it actually enhance the sound quality by improving bitrate and whatsoever
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If there would be 'bitrate improvements' it would mean it would re-encode the track to another format. Maybe it's better to ditch the whole idea of 'bitrate improvement' thru sound rendering.
OQ: This is a collection of presets for the htc music stock player.
For all other questions: At this moment the OP says enough, Sense 4 base build 1.11 Ville_C RUU. It's what you get, for now.
Possibly later on there will be more versions available also for different devices.
- No ETA's, track this thread for updates/changes. -

colosos70 said:
I'm on Ordroid 9.0.0. with Bricked kernel.
Using the Beats headphones that came with the Sensation XE (bought separately, i'm using a standard Sensation) plugged into the headphone socket, I notice much clearer and crisper sound using the Beats effect and there is a noticeable difference between each of the other equalization modes. The bass is increased drastically on the SRS setting, so much so that it's more powerful than the Beats setting.
But when i plug the same headphones into my Sony Ericsson MW600 bluetooth headset there doesn't seem to be hardly any effect and the Beats icon does not appear in the notification bar even after changing to no effect and back to Beats.
Also, when directly plugged in, in the notification drag down there is an entry as to which sound effect i am currently using and it can be changed from there. When using the bluetooth headset this is totally missing.
If you could get the same functions via bluetooth this would be an excellent improvement!
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+1!!

This made srs sound great