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Froyo available by the end of September

http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
We've seen a lot of Q's about the Froyo update; it's currently in development & will be released for all networks at the end of September...
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Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting

jhego said:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October of next year for ATT i'm betting
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There, I fixed it for you.

jhego said:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
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My money's on mid December for ATT if it is released in September

But in all seriousness, just look at this as a prime example.
AT&T Tilt was released on October 4, 2007. The 6.1 update wasn't rolled out until August 4, 2008, almost a year after the phone was release. WM 6.1 was available to Carriers in April of 08, which is still half a year, so I do not expect a 2.2 update until sometime next year.

Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.

jhego said:
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Oh, you know it. And we will all flash it.

Hopefully ATT wont lag on it, cuz Sprint just announced that there Evo will have 2.2 August 3rd.

I'm sure AT&T has their top android developers working on this..... Its too bad that their best ANDROID developers consist of three guys in a basement somewhere...
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.

To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.

mjgunn said:
To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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You're right. Samsung has not even said what their plans for gingerbread are. I hope that they would upgrade to that too. Google said in april that gingerbread should be ready in november.

jhego said:
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...

iamamp3pimp said:
shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?

I know patience is a virtue but man, i've been checking out the Evo 4G forum and there is so much activity and excitement about the successful leaked Froyo update. When is it our turn? I'm so jealous!!! Lol.

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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
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How do we make this happen? And god damnit i want a stage 2 speed fix for the captivate!
:'(
I mean just look at this, LOOK AT IT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7201021&postcount=122
with the kernal patch this guy is getting double the quadrant score and is topping off way higher than a nexus 1 on froyo.
And to think the kernal patch is only necessary because samsung fked up in the firmware!? jUST WTF fix it!
damnit samsung.
good rant, ty.

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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
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i dont see why not.

I would think they would be stepping up the date as a lot of the other android phones are getting their froyo in August.

[I9003] Samsung Mobile India confirms Gingerbread coming to Galaxy SL in July

Well that should settle the nerves now hopefully. Looking forward to Gingerbread.
They also verified it on their Twitter account here.

Great news.
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Ah well, released Feb 2011, Galaxy SL i9003 users have lot to enjoy in the 18 months timeframe... We'd have ICS but waiting 2 more months for GB is a torture!
Still, good of Samsung to join the program...

agnivo007 said:
Ah well, released Feb 2011, Galaxy SL i9003 users have lot to enjoy in the 18 months timeframe... We'd have ICS but waiting 2 more months for GB is a torture!
Still, good of Samsung to join the program...
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That makes sense -- Samsung has really been surprisingly good on Samsung. The hardware are great and I think the software is getting better too. But as regards the 18 months update time frame Google mentioned -- I think it would be hard for the companies settle down on a consensus for that. Practical implementation is going to be a head-ache for companies with users complaining almost everywhere on blogs about that. let's see, how it goes.
BTW, it's nice to see Indians keeping a grip on latest tech, for ex. Google I/O that happened just yesterday. Indian tech is going greaT!

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Well that should settle the nerves now hopefully. Looking forward to Gingerbread.
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I just updated it on the website, thanks for the bringing it out here.

@itskapil:
Ah, I used to run a a tech blog; down for maintenance, anyway... yea, Indians have been everywhere; and quite well informed.
BTW, when the companies have joined the fast update program, I guess they have the needed resources (developer groups) to work on the updates. Who wants to spoil reputation, eh? Thats just like holding on to the drivers, custom apps and recompiling the kernel, stress/beta testing them and release. Simple like the centos or redhat ones we see...
I guess the 18 month timeframe covers android releases in that frame, not how long it takes the update to come through. So, guys stop ****ting about how long they take to release the updates.

very good news.. i own one i9003, and after the rumors of a gingerbread update, this is hte first offical claim of update for this device, the i9000 is better and well supported, but this is a good phone indeed, and with gingerbread will be even better.

Oh, atleast they have responded now!! Thank god!!

Why are the Galaxy SL threads in the Galaxy S I9000 forums, and Fascinate/Vibrant are not? Galaxy SL should have it's own section, since it's pretty much different device with another GPU and LCD screen.

Well better late than... very late!!

Unrealwolf said:
Why are the Galaxy SL threads in the Galaxy S I9000 forums, and Fascinate/Vibrant are not? Galaxy SL should have it's own section, since it's pretty much different device with another GPU and LCD screen.
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Exactly.. you wanna pitch in for this?? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012290

Sorry for this noob question.
If India GalaxySL get gingerbread in July, will other countries' GalaxySL users get the updates too?
Or we can flash the firmware used in India in order to get gingerbread?

xsaintzx said:
Sorry for this noob question.
If India GalaxySL get gingerbread in July, will other countries' GalaxySL users get the updates too?
Or we can flash the firmware used in India in order to get gingerbread?
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I bet europe will get the update before india...if the gingerbread was going to be released in a couple of months...we surely would have got a leaked beta firmware by now...
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i9003 being a variant of the i9000 and released recently, I guess i9003 might be getting 2.3.4 as sammy started to work on it later than GB build for i9000.
I think one must ask on tweeter which GB version we will be getting...

thank god! gingerbread for samsung galaxy sl i9003 will come.i cant wait to try it on my phone!!

agnivo007 said:
i9003 being a variant of the i9000 and released recently, I guess i9003 might be getting 2.3.4 as sammy started to work on it later than GB build for i9000.
I think one must ask on tweeter which GB version we will be getting...
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It could be true that 2.3.4 gb could be our next update...coz today a 2.3.4 leaked firmware was released for the galaxy fit...so all i hope is...it better come for galaxy sl as well
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It is July.. any updates/news on the GB update anywhere for I9003??

Samsung mobile india was the one who talked off a release in mid july via twitter...the same people also told the galaxy ace would get the update in mid june...well!! Have they(ace users) got it?!?!
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it Looks Samsung has finally given an update for SL i9003...

Some update is out on Kies for the Galaxy SL today.. can't update till evening so can't confirm.. but I hope it is Gingerbread.
If anyone has updated, please post your story!!

ics source coming at nov.17

The CEO of Notion Ink, Rohan Shravan, is at it again with news about the Ice Cream Sandwich source code release, saying it will be released November 17. While it's tempting to just toss this aside as another rumor in the ICS/Galaxy Nexus craze of late, Mr. Shravan has a track record that shows he's usually right. Last year, he did the same thing with the Gingerbread release, accurately predicting more than could be a good guess, and just last month he told everyone about the OMAP chipset and Ice Cream Sandwich using them as a reference platform. When he talks, it's always worth listening, and the Nov. 17 date has already been thrown out there as the European release. If we see source code on the 17th, the 18th is going to be a very fun day for a lot of us.
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androidos.in/2011/11/google-to-release-android-4-0-source-code-on-nov-17/
androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo

Looks like im gonna get an ICS ROM for my b-day.

Can't wait!

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The CEO of Notion Ink, Rohan Shravan, is at it again with news about the Ice Cream Sandwich source code release, saying it will be released November 17. While it's tempting to just toss this aside as another rumor in the ICS/Galaxy Nexus craze of late, Mr. Shravan has a track record that shows he's usually right. Last year, he did the same thing with the Gingerbread release, accurately predicting more than could be a good guess, and just last month he told everyone about the OMAP chipset and Ice Cream Sandwich using them as a reference platform. When he talks, it's always worth listening, and the Nov. 17 date has already been thrown out there as the European release. If we see source code on the 17th, the 18th is going to be a very fun day for a lot of us.
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androidos.in/2011/11/google-to-release-android-4-0-source-code-on-nov-17/
androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo
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You mean that SGS2 will be getting ICS? Sorry... noob here.

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You mean that SGS2 will be getting ICS? Sorry... noob here.
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No, the ICS Source Code will be made available to the public on Nov 17th. This means that Developers will be able to start working on ICS for a specific device. The advantage here is that the SGS II has a huge fan-fair also is quite open with development and has kick azz hardware, hence it will most likely be picked up for development right away with results to show soon after.

I won't lie, after reading this, I got really excited. For the past few weeks, I've been using MIUI, but once a stable ICS ROM comes out (I'm hoping/guessing CyanogenMod), I think the pure AOSP experience will be even better

Released or not ive been dam patient about ICS to come out. So dam patient that ive past my time by continuous amounts of games on my Galaxy SII!!

samH4Sung said:
Released or not ive been dam patient about ICS to come out. So dam patient that ive past my time by continuous amounts of games on my Galaxy SII!!
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We've all been patient, and regardless of whether it's Nov.17th, or slightly later, ICS is coming soon, and it will be a whole new level of operating system
Personally, I've been passing the time with Shadowgun on my I9100 (thank you Chainfire3D )

Wait a minute, Google are hosting a big Android event on the 16th! Good chance that that means they'll release the source code the day after the event, or on the day (if we assume the difference in date due to time zones). This adds a lot more credibility to the idea

I am a bit concerned about the date that Samsung is going to release ICS for SGS II.

Wouldn't this still be unusable on our SGS2 unless they release a device with proper drivers for the mali400?

dhruvmalik said:
No, the ICS Source Code will be made available to the public on Nov 17th. This means that Developers will be able to start working on ICS for a specific device. The advantage here is that the SGS II has a huge fan-fair also is quite open with development and has kick azz hardware, hence it will most likely be picked up for development right away with results to show soon after.
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I hope people take notice of this instead of the same question over and over. Sure devs are looking forward to working with this source code. This is what makes android the best mobile os ever. Should imagine it wont be all that long for the roms to start trickling through.
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Toss3 said:
Wouldn't this still be unusable on our SGS2 unless they release a device with proper drivers for the mali400?
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with that said, I hope there will be a stable one for the 'g' ver too
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Toss3 said:
Wouldn't this still be unusable on our SGS2 unless they release a device with proper drivers for the mali400?
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Regarding drivers there is not going to be any big changes from 2.3.7 to 4.0. So it wont be a problem. Official drivers may be more optimized .

bala_gamer said:
Regarding drivers there is not going to be any big changes from 2.3.7 to 4.0. So it wont be a problem. Official drivers may be more optimized .
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I Agree. I think we will see a stable build of ICS with 2.3.x drivers and a much more optimized build via Samsung.
From there, the fun begins of Custom Roms and Great Tweaks.

dhruvmalik said:
I Agree. I think we will see a stable build of ICS with 2.3.x drivers and a much more optimized build via Samsung.
From there, the fun begins of Custom Roms and Great Tweaks.
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Ya, any ICS rom within this month is a sure bonus

SaneQ said:
Looks like im gonna get an ICS ROM for my b-day.
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Same I'm on the 29th.. woo hoo
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bala_gamer said:
Ya, any ICS rom within this month is a sure bonus
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I think that's a lot of wishful thinking to expect it this month, at least a stable build for us to use on a daily basis.
I think Mid DEC should be a good time for a decent build, permitting driver compatibility and the Source Code release is on the 17th.

ChongoDroid said:
Same I'm on the 29th.. woo hoo
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I'm on 18th.

If it's true then that will be superb

ICS in January ?!

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/12/14/a...-sensation-galaxy-sii-raider-and-optimus-lte/
If carrier estimates February unlocked versions will get it faster right?

Well I hate to see this there is another thread with a link to this same info. I see now that this was posted before that one was, they should have looked before posting the other one. Anyway I still say good find here as well.
Now as for your question, no this does not mean "unlocked versions" will get it sooner. The Sensation in all honesty will more than likely have a ICS ROM that is good enough for a daily driver by February, but it will be a port or a AOSP build. But if you ask me even a AOSP would be able to be considered a port as the only source released right now is the source for the Galaxy Nexus. Therfore you still have to do Portia.g work to get a ICS AOSP build for the Sensation working. But one of these is how we might get a ICS ROM before the official update. You have to be what I think you are calling "unlocked"to be able to flash one of these ROMs. Being unlocked will not make you eligible for the official update any sooner. This totally depends on the OEMs and right now it looks like February is when we can start looking for the official update to start rolling out.

I think ICS will be officially released in feb/mar..

I think he meant that there probably will be a ICS sense leak from HTC in around januari. And yes probably there will be one
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I think ICS will be officially released in feb/mar..
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so you think Bell will have some kind of exclusive release for Feb and they will actually make the rest of us wait until March?

Electronic Punk said:
so you think Bell will have some kind of exclusive release for Feb and they will actually make the rest of us wait until March?
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Why would a carrier have an "exclusive" release for an "update"? That would be a first.
Another thing to think about, the SGS2 has a "April" expected date, although there has already been leaked "Test" roms.

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so you think Bell will have some kind of exclusive release for Feb and they will actually make the rest of us wait until March?
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I remember the leaked update roadmaps for Samsung Galaxy S this year and for HTC Hero last year.
Samsung Galaxy S: all blogs share the leaked update roadmap that was saying "the Gingerbread update arrive in gen/feb"..... In the end arrived in may.
HTC Hero: "Eclair surely comes in feb" the update arrived in June...
In my opinion we won't se the official update till feb/mar...you can think what ever you want...
Oh, I forgot to mention the Asus Eee Pad Transformer: In november the CEO said "The update will arrive within the end of the year"...last Asus communication "the update will arrive in feb"
So my experience tell me "don't trust in this rumors" LOL

Just remember it may have a new bootloader

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Just remember it may have a new bootloader
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Oh my god ewwww. I had completely forgotten about that (very likely) contingency.
Damn it.

T-Macgnolia said:
Well I hate to see this there is another thread with a link to this same info. I see now that this was posted before that one was, they should have looked before posting the other one. Anyway I still say good find here as well.
Now as for your question, no this does not mean "unlocked versions" will get it sooner. The Sensation in all honesty will more than likely have a ICS ROM that is good enough for a daily driver by February, but it will be a port or a AOSP build. But if you ask me even a AOSP would be able to be considered a port as the only source released right now is the source for the Galaxy Nexus. Therfore you still have to do Portia.g work to get a ICS AOSP build for the Sensation working. But one of these is how we might get a ICS ROM before the official update. You have to be what I think you are calling "unlocked"to be able to flash one of these ROMs. Being unlocked will not make you eligible for the official update any sooner. This totally depends on the OEMs and right now it looks like February is when we can start looking for the official update to start rolling out.
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My bad, perhaps I should have had a more specific title. As for the "unlocked" I meant operator free European (UK to be exact) version of Sensation with AWS freqs, that's the one I have
Well considering the new info from Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/15/touchwizzed-ice-cream-sandwich-leaks-for-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
I hope we will soon have a leaked ROM for Sensation

SE has already made available an alpha release of ICS for some of it's phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_showcases_android_401_ics_alpha_rom_on_video-news-3523.php

xenios said:
SE has already made available an alpha release of ICS for some of it's phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_showcases_android_401_ics_alpha_rom_on_video-news-3523.php
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That does what for us?
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they are so far behind

My god Touch Wiz is so terrible looking .

brilldoctor said:
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Well but after HTC unlocked our sensations bootloader after being locked I assume they won't lock it down again
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[Q] CM9 porting to the 7 Plus

Has anyone looked at what it would take to port CM9 to this tablet yet?

I would love "ICS" on my 7.0 plus!! Please!!
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As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.

GTOJim said:
As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.
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I agree, it would be a waste of time for the devs. Patience....
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Agree. Am running the port of CM9 on my NC and while it's sweet and interesting...waiting for the official release is the way to go as its so close.

I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.

bdds13 said:
I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
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I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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ringnutz said:
I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Codiusprime said:
Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.

I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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The reason I asked this is not so much that I can't wait for ICS. It is more derived from wanting an ASOP-ish experience. I am also thinking about the future. OEMs are usually good for the first year of supporting the devices they make. Then they start to fail claiming that the device is not "compatable" with the latest version. I have an old HTC hero that my son uses as an MP3 player. It is running CM7 and the OEM claimed that it would not support gingerbread, heck they even have an ICS port for it.
CM seems to have a good record of keeping supported devices working. I am sure that once ICS is released for the 7 plus there will be custom builds available.

lrs421 said:
I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.

rkmj said:
I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.

lrs421 said:
Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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They are not only slow but also the updates themselves are notoriously bad and it usually takes a long time for bug fixes. Samsung's software development side is really not that great.
You are right though, as of right now all of the manufacturers suck pretty hardcore. It's pretty ridiculous really, hopefully they get better with releasing fewer devices.
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rkmj said:
Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
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Yes, it is key to not forget the carrier influences and also bear in mind that carrier-specific variants of, e.g., the Galaxy S2 were not within the scope of Samsung's ICS in Q1 announcement.
My previous phone was the Epic 4G. It was the first US carrier variant to receive official Froyo and Gingerbread updates but it received them well after the "stock" Galaxy S model (GT-I9000, I believe) received them.
So in other words, when looking at Samsung's update record, remember to compare apples to apples. Nexus One got its official Froyo upgrade in May of 2010, I think. The GT-I9000 got its official Froyo upgrade in August. Gingerbread was released in December of 2010 on the Nexus S. I believe the Nexus One got its upgrade in January of 2011 and the GT-I9000 got its GB upgrade in March of 2011.
All in all, not too shabby for Samsung. It's only when you factor in variants (which have all been customized to various degrees which require OS customization) and carrier agendas (I believe AT&T let its phones languish on 2.1 for a good while to not have them be competitive with the iPhone, which was AT&T exclusive at the time) that Samsung's rep starts to take a turn.

The I9000 vs Captivate is probably the clearest example of the negative effect a carrier can have on update releases.
The I9000 and Captivate were close enough that it took developers here very little time (days maybe? weeks at most...) to begin running I9000 releases on the Captivate. However, it took on the order of nine months from the I9000's GB release before the Captivate officially received Gingerbread.
Similarly, Samsung has only been slightly behind other tablet vendors in Honeycomb updates for the Tab 10.1, mainly due to being the first vendor to include a custom skin - but "behind" has usually been at worst 1-2 months of delay.
Similarly, the I9100 is scheduled to receive ICS in March and Sammy seems on track with that. However, the I777 (AT&T variant) probably won't see official ICS until 2013...
For the 7.0 Plus - for the developers the Tab does have, I think polishing the current HC releases is the top priority. Honestly, ICS offers far less compared to HC than it does compared to GB, and right now, there's some major work to be done on the 7.0 Plus thanks to Samsung being asshats with regards to AR6000 driver source code.

rkmj said:
Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
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Yep, mine was GB right out of the box! Love this little device!

Mines has 3.2 with honeycomb. Not sure what version that is.