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ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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Nah...not likely. The updates, if they ever do finally come, will be associated with the firmware for the specific carrier.
danyal hero said:
ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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Nothing is required to receive an update apart from having the Zune software on your pc and in the case of the useless carriers, their approval to MS to release the update. Unlocked devices should get updates with no restrictions or delays, barring technical issues.
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Nothing is required to receive an update apart from having the Zune software on your pc and in the case of the useless carriers, their approval to MS to release the update. Unlocked devices should get updates with no restrictions or delays, barring technical issues.
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i got mine unlock, still no updates. =(
irispen said:
i got mine unlock, still no updates. =(
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That would be those technical issues then. Or just the result of a phased rollout, but you do not need to have a Zune pass or anything else, as the OP asked. And if you unlocked it yourself, are you referring to a SIM unlock but its still a branded device, if so the original carrier would still control when the update is released. Unbranding with a stock firmware would be the way to revert it complete "unlocked" state with no carrier ties but even then, its no guarantee of getting the update sooner.
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That would be those technical issues then. Or just the result of a phased rollout, but you do not need to have a Zune pass or anything else, as the OP asked. And if you unlocked it yourself, are you referring to a SIM unlock but its still a branded device, if so the original carrier would still control when the update is released. Unbranding with a stock firmware would be the way to revert it complete "unlocked" state with no carrier ties but even then, its no guarantee of getting the update sooner.
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i got the unbranded htc hd7, some of my friends got the update and some of my friends dont.. we are all using an unlock, unbranded htc hd7
irispen said:
i got the unbranded htc hd7, some of my friends got the update and some of my friends dont.. we are all using an unlock, unbranded htc hd7
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Then obviously its just down to being a phased rollout, based on whatever criteria MS is using.
There's only 7 days until Nodo gets released (theoretically), at this rate I'll not get this update before Nodo!
I hope Nodo doesn't get as delayed as this update did. Still nothing for me - UK O2 HD7 SIM-unlocked.
i got an email from HTC as i am using an unbranded HD7 and still to get the pre update, they told me to just wait for the march update...
they will not come out and say that MS have halt the 21st feb update or it was pushed out to only part of the WP7 owners....
so now i have to wait for march 8th or so and see what happens...
Just remember that March 8th was just a rumour, more than likely it wont be available then.
I bought an Australian (Telstar) HTC Mozart to use in New Zealand as the hardware specs match the NZ Telecom network. Now I an really worried that as Telecom dont sell this phone they will never "release" an update and I'll eventually be stuck with a very old version of WP7.
Anyone got an ideas if this will be a problem or if my phone will see the Telstra update and grab that?
I have a dev account so if anyone knows how a dev can load the update directly then that would be great to hear...
Thanks
they will Telstra aren't really ones to stop it though i know that they haven't released the update yet. my sister has a mozart from telstra and hasn't gotten an update yet. just be patient. i'm pretty sure they just rolled it all into one.
I also bought a phone from germany and I'm using it in Portugal with diferent carrier and I got the update! So I think you shouldn't worry
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they will Telstra aren't really ones to stop it though i know that they haven't released the update yet. my sister has a mozart from telstra and hasn't gotten an update yet. just be patient. i'm pretty sure they just rolled it all into one.
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But do you think it will update a phone running in NZ on a different network? Mt worry is that if teh carrier can block an update then that seems to suggest its tied to the phone + carrier combination. If i take a phone sold for an Australian carrier and use it in NZ then will it update?
In theory it should work as Telecom NZ provide the internet access and the phone is still branded Telstra. It still shows their NextG branding at start up etc but what if it doesn't?
I also cant think why developers are not allowed to run the update using dev only tools. How are we supposed to test our applications?
Seems a little up in the air. As for teh update I am patient and happy to wait but I really think MS need to explain stuff way more. Lots of people are complaining and that is bad for the image as a whole. A few more blog post from MS could really diffuse that.
Thanks for the feedback.
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But do you think it will update a phone running in NZ on a different network? Mt worry is that if teh carrier can block an update then that seems to suggest its tied to the phone + carrier combination. If i take a phone sold for an Australian carrier and use it in NZ then will it update?
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Yes. It's tied to the device+branding, so as long as Telstra releases the update you will get it.
The alternative is to unbrand your phone by flashing a non-branded (i.e. generic) ROM and you'll get the update as soon as MS seems fit rather than being dependant on any carriers.
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is Vodafone Sensation 'Locked to Vodafone Sim card only? anyone can test it? thank you.
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
Barff1984 said:
Yep is it, i was in Vodafone shop today asking about it. They said it's locked but with pay monthly customers, they can unlock it...the girl said she had done it a few times with android devices...they just need a code she said.
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im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
cqms13 said:
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
cant find the post right now but would suggest its not simlocked to vf
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fair enough
I'm just going by what the vodafone girl told me. I had a play with one of the phones in the shop, she did a little personal unboxing for me haha
Sense didn't lag at all. Had Vodafone branding on turn on and off and had those crappy voda apps.
My 3 sim works, so must be unlocked.
Are they selling this PAYG as I was debating using my monthly Vodafone SIM in it?
yes it is..
im sure i read that someone here has put a tmo sim in and it worked
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That was me!
My HTC Sensation from Vodafone was unlocked straight out of the box.
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yes it is..
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Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
Thank-you all.
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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there is nothing showed 'vodafone things' on box, and nothing on outside of phone.
there is vodafone flash when turn on this phone, and several vodafone software already installed, and not allowed to uninstall (just several times, hope I didn't operate wrongly).
hope this helps.
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perhaps there are different codes or something on the box.
I really hope there's a quick way without having to physically ask the assistant to turn each phone on in the hope they have an unbranded one. guessing it'll just be one of the 2 though....a batch of branded or unbranded...can't imagine it's a mix
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is there any way by telling whether the phone is branded or not from preferably the box? ie, so i can go to vodashop and get one on contract, but checking the box labels first to make sure i get one unbranded...the one i had a play with in the shop today had the voda logo on start up and kinds of put me off as i'd like quick updates as-and-when they release...instead of waiting for voda
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As always if you want the quickest updates you have to go the SIM free route and I cannot see the Sensation being any different.
I yesterday moved from O2 to Vodafone and got the Sensation on a monthly contract. It is UNLOCKED and I still use my O2 SIM with it, waiting for my O2 number to port to Vodafone. As menntioned above. the Vodafone logo shows when power is turned on. I assume this means that it is branded and we will need to wait for software updates from Vodafone ruther than the general update.
It is unlocked and branded - but minimally.
Apart from the fugly Vodafone boot screen there were at least 3 Vodafone apps installed initially - the first one is visible as soon as you turn the phone on as it puts a nasty red icon in the notification bar!
First thing I did was load the "Vodafone 360 updates" program and disable automatic updates. I then ran the one outstanding update it was showing. The update downloaded and ran and then the other handful of Vodafone apps suddenly self-destructed! They all disappeared from the application drawer (for example there was initially a ****ty Vodafone Shop and Vodafone Music app). Now only the updates program is left and is set to be invisible.
I guess the Vodafone crapware was so crap that the self-update deleted all the apps! Excellent
Oh and I forgot to say. My last phone was the HTC Legend. When the froyo update came out for Legend, Vodafone had bribed HTC to release it on Vodafone branded handsets first and to hold back to unbranded handsets for a month's exclusivity! I suppose another benefit to branded handsets is that they should be correctly configured for the network - I never did manage to get O2 MMS working on my unbranded Legend.
Super Chimp said:
Thanks. Actually a bit surprised at that because normally they keep such new flagship devices for contract only. That's why I hadn't really looked for it on PAYG.
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They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
DSensation said:
They sell it PAYG or I misunderstood it?
Because I really want to buy it without any contract o-o
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On the Vodafone eforum a Voda mod stated that it will be contact only to start with, at a guess while they have it exclusive. Also all Vodafone contract phones are sent out unlocked apart from iphones and fully exclusive phones like the first blackberry storm was.
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The branding is VERY minimal on this. Quick Vodafone icon on boot up and shutdown, but it doesn't stay for long thankfully
how much does it cost at vodafone? and is it available on all of their shops?
hi there,
can someone tell me is there any progress to make a sim unlock software like htc desire, or sensation can only be unlock with code purchased from some site that offer this ? thakns in advance
ashandarey said:
hi there,
can someone tell me is there any progress to make a sim unlock software like htc desire, or sensation can only be unlock with code purchased from some site that offer this ? thakns in advance
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Currently there is no know method of sim-unlocking the Sensation without an unlock code purchased from a site. Also, this thread should be in the General forum, not here. Please some mod move this
ashandarey said:
hi there,
can someone tell me is there any progress to make a sim unlock software like htc desire, or sensation can only be unlock with code purchased from some site that offer this ? thakns in advance
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Where did you get the phone from?
You could always just call T-Mobile. They always give me the unlock codes. I ust tell them (ATT also) that I am using the phone overseas, and I need the unlock code to use an international SIM. ATT usually just gives me the code, and T-Mobile emails it within 24 hours. I have yet to be told no by either carrier.
ChrisAC84 said:
You could always just call T-Mobile. They always give me the unlock codes. I ust tell them (ATT also) that I am using the phone overseas, and I need the unlock code to use an international SIM. ATT usually just gives me the code, and T-Mobile emails it within 24 hours. I have yet to be told no by either carrier.
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Not that easy : in France, the Sensation is atm SFR exclusive (same as Vodafone)
And they don't have the codes handy for the time being even though they're forced by French laws to give it for free to those who bought the phone with a pre-paid offer !
cjm1979 said:
Where did you get the phone from?
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mmm bulgaria our service provider is part of vodafone ...so
rahan95 said:
Not that easy : in France, the Sensation is atm SFR exclusive (same as Vodafone)
And they don't have the codes handy for the time being even though they're forced by French laws to give it for free to those who bought the phone with a pre-paid offer !
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Hmm, didn't know that. Thanks for the info
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mmm bulgaria our service provider is part of vodafone ...so
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Is it Vodafone branded? Just that the Vodafone Uk Sensations are sim unlocked. Have you tried it?
rahan95 said:
Not that easy : in France, the Sensation is atm SFR exclusive (same as Vodafone)
And they don't have the codes handy for the time being even though they're forced by French laws to give it for free to those who bought the phone with a pre-paid offer !
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This user seems to have gotten his unlock code http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14576902&postcount=17
Yes I find code in unlock site
Not expensive all working like.charm
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Vodafone UK already unlocked
I assumed when I got my Sensation from Vodafone that it would need to be unlocked to accomodate my Orange SIM. So I was looking around for an unlocker and was just about to part with cash on one of the sites, when I thought I would pop the Orange SIM in the phone to see what the error message would be.
I was then greeted by the Orange carrier signal and all was working fine!! Glad I didn't pay my £15 I would have been well gutted.
So yeah, I can confirm that the Vodafone ones in the UK are already SIM unlocked. Nice!
Also - off topic - there is no branding on the phone other than a quick logo upon booting up the phone. So all in all a good deal.
apprentice said:
I assumed when I got my Sensation from Vodafone that it would need to be unlocked to accomodate my Orange SIM. So I was looking around for an unlocker and was just about to part with cash on one of the sites, when I thought I would pop the Orange SIM in the phone to see what the error message would be.
I was then greeted by the Orange carrier signal and all was working fine!! Glad I didn't pay my £15 I would have been well gutted.
So yeah, I can confirm that the Vodafone ones in the UK are already SIM unlocked. Nice!
Also - off topic - there is no branding on the phone other than a quick logo upon booting up the phone. So all in all a good deal.
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i am with vodafone uk but my phone is not sim unlocked ?
farigee said:
i am with vodafone uk but my phone is not sim unlocked ?
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Vodafone Uk don't sim lock contract phones apart from iPhones and exclusives.
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has anyone unlocked his sensation recently?
can u suggest a website or something to do so? i am getting mine from tmobilie this week but i want to use it with Wind mobile in Canada...
nothing at all??
alireza_simkesh said:
nothing at all??
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Well, As far as I know the phones in Europe don't have simlocks, so I suggest you try it first when your phone arrives and than look if it has one. It could be it's simlockfree at the moment it arrives.
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Well, As far as I know the phones in Europe don't have simlocks, so I suggest you try it first when your phone arrives and than look if it has one. It could be it's simlockfree at the moment it arrives.
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but im getting mine from tmobile USA.
There should be a website or something that does this
I just picked up two today, if I find out I'll let you know.
To my knowledge if you buy the phone outright, tmo will provide a code but their cx service is closed so im calling in the morn
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Well, As far as I know the phones in Europe don't have simlocks, so I suggest you try it first when your phone arrives and than look if it has one. It could be it's simlockfree at the moment it arrives.
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Your understanding is incorrect.. ony in certain countries eg belgium the law mandates that the phones cannot be locked to a carrier else most of the countries eg france, put a simlock
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I just picked up two today, if I find out I'll let you know.
To my knowledge if you buy the phone outright, tmo will provide a code but their cx service is closed so im calling in the morn
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any updates on this?...
I have an HTC Sensation on Orange, but bought via dialaphone. I wonder if it is classified as branded or unbranded.
Is there any way to tell from serial nu,ber or software version?
It used to be possible with the first Desire.
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Massi
I got the XE through dial a phone on orange, it is unbranded, check for logos on the case or on the phones software (IE in the menu or anything)
I doubt yours is branded.
Hi, I'd be interested in this too. I bought mine instore at a high street T Mobile shop. There seems to be no form of branding at all. I've just got this after coming from a Desire HD (loved it, just fancied a change) and am used to doing updates via the RUU rather than waiting for operator OTA stuff. Just need to ensure that when available, I D/L the right one. Mine is an XE version and as it's still all shiny & new, I don't want to go down the rooting road just yet!
Cheers for any help. (Oh aye, is it just me or does the screen seem narrower than my Desire HD screen despite every tech' doc' telling me it isn't)?
ghislandi said:
I have an HTC Sensation on Orange, but bought via dialaphone. I wonder if it is classified as branded or unbranded.
Is there any way to tell from serial nu,ber or software version?
It used to be possible with the first Desire.
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Massi
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I bought mine too from Dial a Phone.
I know that it's factory unlocked because I popped a T-Mobile SIM in it and it worked fine.
Not sure about branding though, my guess is that it's unbranded.
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I have an HTC Sensation on Orange, but bought
Is there any way to tell from serial nu,ber or software version?
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check your cid, steps are explained in the development sub-forum
Branded = Carrier Logos on the device itself, Carrier Apps, Carrier ROM
Unbranded = No Logos, Stock ROM, Stock Apps
Try putting a different providers sim card in, if it works its unbranded, if not, branded
Generally orange phones are unbranded in unlocked.
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