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Is there any DesireS Grip Of Death Fix?

Hey all xda brothers,
I am looking to upgrade from G1 to this desire S. As this phone comes perfectly with all spec in my budget to buy.
One issues i searched was grip of death for wifi, i wanted to know is there any fix for it like using some case or soft fix.
Please guide
WiZ
Sent From My G1

Gam3-KiNG said:
Hey all xda brothers,
I am looking to upgrade from G1 to this desire S. As this phone comes perfectly with all spec in my budget to buy.
One issues i searched was grip of death for wifi, i wanted to know is there any fix for it like using some case or soft fix.
Please guide
WiZ
Sent From My G1
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I find "the grip of normality" is the best fix. Seriously, holding it normally and in most scenarios there is no problem. You have to TRY to get it to drop out, and that'll only happen if your wifi signal is already weak.
Most custom roms also have a fix which lowers the threshold at which the phone drops the signal however. I ran the phone on stock rom for 2 months and didn't have one dropped connection. Its an awesome phone.
My only gripe with it is you have to run gpsfix every couple of weeks if you want a GPS lock. A problem with the a-gps chip though so not a HTC sense our android issue. Mildly annoying when you are sat in your car waiting for gps to lock, but at least its fixable, and forgivable considering how good the rest of the phone is.
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Gam3-KiNG said:
Hey all xda brothers,
I am looking to upgrade from G1 to this desire S. As this phone comes perfectly with all spec in my budget to buy.
One issues i searched was grip of death for wifi, i wanted to know is there any fix for it like using some case or soft fix.
Please guide
WiZ
Sent From My G1
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Aaaah another one coming from G1
Can def. recommend the DS!
Didn't really have any probs with the wifi issue...

Well, i using a TGU case and everything, never had issue with wifi disconnection... thats all i have to say

When using my phone normally around my house, the signal stays between maximum strength and -1 bar strength with my normal grips (normal single hand portrait and dual hand landscape view).
I can force the issue and using a tight double handed grip in portrait view and reduce the signal to one bar but I have been unable to cause my connection to drop.

There's a fix from gtg465x which lets you stay connected to the wifi even when your signal is low. This doesn't solve the "death grid" but it improved wifi a lot for me! source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051674

As said before, there is a somewhat hidden setting to get the wifi to perform a bit better and at least not dropping the connection. Go to: Settings -> Wireless and setworks-> Wi-Fi settings, press menu, choose Advanced and check the Best Wi-Fi performance checkbox. Note that as it says in the menu itself, it may consume more power. Isn't there too much topics about this in this forum? Please someone put them togethether with a sticky and delete my double posts. Thanks.
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Reception

Hi any help please im on vodaphone uk not sure why but in the last 4 hours my reception has totally gone anybody think of anything please let me know willing to try your ideas thanks

Try switching gsm mode and wcdma mode, monitor the reception bars.
sent with unbranded htc sensation
Don't forget to thanks

Thanks for reply tried that got best results in auto.thanks

Just being trying a few things out i think its a grip issue when im holding the phone at the bottom all my reception gos i never had this problem before and have had the fone since july

*#*#4636#*#* tried this yet ? switch off every thing and back on again and cross your fingers
most likely vodaphone UK cells are down. you might wanna call them up and check

Hiya,
Many might not like this reply.. but I think it's helpful..
I had a sensation on Vodafone and had no end of Signal issues - I changed 4 handsets and still had issues!! I would have signal one minute and then lose it the next..
After, I gave the SGS 2 a try and have found that the signal is much stronger! It has barely lost signal and to top it off, in an area with apparently only GPRS strength, I'm getting H and 3G!!
Also, another note, I mentioned in one of my earlier posts that the GPS signal is weak in the Sensation and was a little disappointed that it kept losing the satellites - SGS 2 seems to find a lock in less than 5 seconds and holds on for dear life!! The only down side is that it drains the battery a lot more than the sensation..
I'm not trolling, I'm just giving my experience - I was in the same boat on Vodafone and found that the sensation just didn't really work as well as the SGS 2 - A shame, because the Sensation is a gorgeous looking piece of kit!!

charmz2k2 said:
Hiya,
Many might not like this reply.. but I think it's helpful..
I had a sensation on Vodafone and had no end of Signal issues - I changed 4 handsets and still had issues!! I would have signal one minute and then lose it the next..
After, I gave the SGS 2 a try and have found that the signal is much stronger! It has barely lost signal and to top it off, in an area with apparently only GPRS strength, I'm getting H and 3G!!
Also, another note, I mentioned in one of my earlier posts that the GPS signal is weak in the Sensation and was a little disappointed that it kept losing the satellites - SGS 2 seems to find a lock in less than 5 seconds and holds on for dear life!! The only down side is that it drains the battery a lot more than the sensation..
I'm not trolling, I'm just giving my experience - I was in the same boat on Vodafone and found that the sensation just didn't really work as well as the SGS 2 - A shame, because the Sensation is a gorgeous looking piece of kit!!
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See this whole reception issue is bothering me about getting a Sensation?

Exactly the same situation for me as for Charmz2k2.
I also had a Sensation on Vodafone UK and had no end of signal issues. After 2 months of discussion they offered to swap the phone for a SGS2 and now I have no problems, using the same SIM and in the same places where I previously had issues with the Sensation.
Pity, as the Sensation is an awesome piece of hardware otherwise.
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Had the same problem. Switch to gsm/wmcda mode.

Thanks very much for all your replys.we had alot of rain on monday and it has done somthing as everyone in my area is having problems with vodaphone with all types of mobiles.thanks

Is this a particular issue then for the Sensation if used on the Vodafone network in the UK?
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It was fine before. My freind also has a contract with them and has confirmed that is a network issue in the area

moh6299 said:
It was fine before. My freind also has a contract with them and has confirmed that is a network issue in the area
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Can I ask you in general on that network how does it cope in areas of less good or variable reception?

Super Chimp said:
Can I ask you in general on that network how does it cope in areas of less good or variable reception?
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In my experience its terrible in all areas where you don't have a really strong signal.
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Deadgonz said:
In my experience its terrible in all areas where you don't have a really strong signal.
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For my usage that's very poor news.

I'm on O2 UK and I have the same problem,
Phone signal, Wifi and GPS one minute and nothing the next. Same problem with my first Sensation! (Only not as bad)
My current one is going back for repair Friday, but I'm not holding my breath, I bet it comes back exactly the same!

Well i have to say it is good for me its the same as the iphone that i had before

jools5431 said:
I'm on O2 UK and I have the same problem,
Phone signal, Wifi and GPS one minute and nothing the next. Same problem with my first Sensation! (Only not as bad)
My current one is going back for repair Friday, but I'm not holding my breath, I bet it comes back exactly the same!
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Does how you hold also have an effect on this?

Super Chimp said:
Does how you hold also have an effect on this?
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No, I don't think it does. I've tried holding it all ways and even not holding it. Ive tried it in a holder, face down but still no difference that I can see

I'm glad a few others agreed with me!!
I travel the country (UK) for my job and cover about 2000 miles a month, so that's a lot of driving!!
I found that the signal would constantly be dropping while on the motorway using the sensation.
the SGS 2 has dropped a few times, but in comparison to the Sensation, it's barely anything.
I do think it's something to do with that back cover / antenna... maybe even a poor connection or something as small as that?
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Super Chimp said:
See this whole reception issue is bothering me about getting a Sensation?
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2 months ago I would have said stick with the Sensation, after jumping ship, the only thing I miss is HTC Sense as it is MUCH better than TW, but chuck on Launcher Pro or something and it's manageable - the main point is I now have a phone which will 9.9 times out of 10 have signal when I need it
At the end of the day, they're pretty similar spec-wise, it's your choice as to what you want - and in all fairness, out of ALL the people who bought the sensation, we might be a minority who have the signal issues..
All I would say is that Vodafone DO look after their customers (after a bit of frustration with a few of their employees) as they swapped my phone even 3 and half months after I signed up!!

3G/HSPA Connectivity Issue

Hi,
My One S seems to occasionally have a few connectivity issues with 3G, I am not sure they are related to the signal issues already discussed in other threads in this forum. I have an international handset, MAO black version (has two tiny chips too, but not worth complaining about), running stock firmware, haven't done the dev unlock yet.
1) Sometimes the phone shows 'No Service', but I still have a working data connection and can make calls. Sending/receiving SMS appears not to work for some reason though. Can work around by switching into and out of airplane mode. Until I do that any SMS I compose under these conditions just pends, after the workaround they do get sent after a few minutes.
2) Sometimes something seems to go wrong with the 3G data connection, all the internet apps suddenly say they have no connection, alogcat says that DNS lookup is repeatedly failing even though I have a strong signal and 3G/HSPA connection (also tried connecting to IP addresses directly, doesn't work either). Tried getting online via Wi-Fi and it works, but all the Internet connectivity fails if I turn Wi-Fi off. If I reboot the phone it is able to get online again.
I brought this problem up in a live chat with HTC customer support and they have advised me to arrange for them to collect the phone for repair, the shop from whom I bought the phone advised the same. Just thought I would share it here and find out if it is common, or it is likely, as HTC think, there's something wrong with my phone's antennae. (My thought is that both could also be software problems)
Anyone else experience problems like this?

I get the no service thing all the time, I pull it out of my pocket and press the power button, it says no service. I am going to call t-mobile in the next few days, I am trying to collect more data. It does it on my same spot on the couch where I used to get good coverage on my old phone. It does it on the same desk at work that I used to get good reception at. It kinda sucks.

jacewt said:
I get the no service thing all the time, I pull it out of my pocket and press the power button, it says no service. I am going to call t-mobile in the next few days, I am trying to collect more data. It does it on my same spot on the couch where I used to get good coverage on my old phone. It does it on the same desk at work that I used to get good reception at. It kinda sucks.
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Yup, I get that and trying to get more data before sending it back to HTC. I'm not really certain but it's as if there is something wrong antennae? Seems to be quite a few with similar mobile network issues though.
I still have my old Motorola and with sim out of One S in the reception is good where the One S struggles to get a signal - if at all

I have the same issue as Kenyw:
No connection for a while although within covered area.
Strong connection bars but no internet
Usually I switch to airplane mode and back then it works...until the next time!
Very frustrating! I don't think changing the phone would solve the problem!

I have the same exact issue as the OP. Another example would be the streaming of music using Pandora and Slacker. I can listen to 1 song and skip 2 or 3 songs at best before I start having issues where it just keeps loading and I am in 4G range and 3G which shouldn't be a problem still.

Same issue here.

jipi said:
I have the same issue as Kenyw:
No connection for a while although within covered area.
Strong connection bars but no internet
Usually I switch to airplane mode and back then it works...until the next time!
Very frustrating! I don't think changing the phone would solve the problem!
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I did exchange my One S for another and it is just the same
It's a bit of a queer issue. I know where I live I have a good Three UK signal as per experience with the Motorola phone. I can be anywhere between 2 bars (approx 104dBm) and no signal in the house and around the yard. Yet I can walk 20 yards towards mast approx 1 mile away and as soon as I get LOS (no buildings, trees) on the mast I get full signal???

I buy my One-S a week ago in Germany and facing the same issue in Israel with Orange 3.5G network. I really don't know what to do now.

alondror said:
I buy my One-S a week ago in Germany and facing the same issue in Israel with Orange 3.5G network. I really don't know what to do now.
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Alon,
As mentioned in many different threads opened here in XDA, the issue is related to the phone and its current software version and not to the operator/SIM/area in the world.
Stay tuned and hopefully shortly HTC will provide OTA update or root your device and install one of the custom ROMs based on the new RUU 1.70 which might be solving this issue.
Oren

Thanks,
I will keep waching the threads around waiting for solution.

I tried TrickDroid v1.0 base 1.70 but still same problem

silord said:
I tried TrickDroid v1.0 base 1.70 but still same problem
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Thanks for that Info.
You saved me the thoughts about rooting...
I'm still trying to wait for a decent s-off not related to HTC...
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a new updated has been realesed, is there anyone who has seen any improovments?
I'm about to take a one s tomorrow but I'm a little worried regarding all those problems : no signal, overheating...

light_n_roses said:
a new updated has been realesed, is there anyone who has seen any improovments?
I'm about to take a one s tomorrow but I'm a little worried regarding all those problems : no signal, overheating...
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working already with the 1.78 firmware with no much of a different :'(
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http://www.mobilegeek.it/2012/05/htc-one-s-aggiornamento-1-78-401-2-in-arrivo/ from here it seems that the new updates also decrease benchmark results ..not that good...

light_n_roses said:
http://www.mobilegeek.it/2012/05/htc-one-s-aggiornamento-1-78-401-2-in-arrivo/ from here it seems that the new updates also decrease benchmark results ..not that good...
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Noticed decreased benchmark performance on quadrant but improved battery life and system UI seems to be more fluid.

mattionline said:
Noticed decreased benchmark performance on quadrant but improved battery life and system UI seems to be more fluid.
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ok but more fluidity shouldn't affect cpu and I/O results!! HTC isn't doing a great job here...

[Q] Wifi issues still present

Anyone else having Wifi issues even after installing the new RUU?

yup, its frustrating

bloodrain954 said:
yup, its frustrating
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Wow...thought it was just me. I like the phone but I seriously thinking about selling it on ebay before the folks at ATT realize that they won't be able to give away this phone for free. I keep trying to look past the hype about the phone and find something positive to say about it and I really can't find much. The Wifi and bluetooth are horrible. HTC decided to go the rout of the iPhone and have a none replaceble battery and no expansion slot. If I wanted that I would have got the iPhone. I stuck with Android because they were different then the iPhone...after this release I don't know. And then they make the phone so light and plastic like that you really don't feel like you paid for anything. If I wanted that I would have bought samsung phone...LOL!!!

I must be one of the few... since upgrading from the original 1.73 I've had zero problems....

RiPpeR_dUdE said:
I must be one of the few... since upgrading from the original 1.73 I've had zero problems....
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Yeah I have the HTC Vivid and the One X, the Vivid has all full wifi bars and the One X is laying right next to it with 1 wifi bar flickering on and off. I have to keep toggeling the wifi off and on to get it to download anything. Today I swapped the sim card with a sim card adapter to used my Vivid all day with no problem. Now that I have been using the Vivid I'm thinking about selling the One X.

I'm hoping I'm in my 30 day window when the GS3 comes out, I just want to exchange it

My Wifi issues subsided with 1.82 and still now with 1.85. Strange that an update would solve the issue for some and not others... Only significant problem I have now is the ****ty multitasking.
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akhedraki said:
My Wifi issues subsided with 1.82 and still now with 1.85. Strange that an update would solve the issue for some and not others... Only significant problem I have now is the ****ty multitasking.
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Well it surely not the worst phone HTC has ever put out, but surely not the best quality wise. The Vivid is a much more solid feeling phone and not plastic feeling, but the sense 4.0 is nice on the HTC One X...still not enough to make me want to keep it, because i'm sure sense 4.0 will be ported for the HTC vivid soon now that the One x has been released. I have about 2 weeks left before I can return it..but I don't want to pay a 35.00 restocking charge.

I'm having issues with WiFi too (doesn't disconnect from WiFi when out if range)...but when its connected its very strong and never loses its signal.
I don't know what problems you're having with blue tooth, but I haven't had any problems. I run with the phone using wireless headset, stream music to my computer and use hand free in car. Bt seems to be ok.
I'm fairly certain that all of us that have WiFi problems will get it resolved with future radio updates. Its still a very new phone.

(counting my blessings)... i'm running CleanROM 2.1 and have no wifi issues here. when i'm out of range it disconnects and when i'm back in range it connects without issue. my Advanced WiFi settings only has Network notification checked, and that was the default setting. as an FYI, i'm using a FiOS ActionTech router (have no clue who the maker is) and a D-Link router as well. i also do not have any task killers running in the background.
bluetooth with my car and my Q2 and Plantronics Headsets is working without issue as well. (hope i don't have to return later and edit this post!)

All this talk about how horrible it is and we haven't even had an update yet. Why don't you wait to pass judgment untill the official update? Which update are y'all takin about anyway? The Asian 1.88? Or the week old 1.85? None are official updates, they are leaks. You can't judge the phone off of unofficial leaks.. At least wait for something official before you put the noose around it. I've had most of the flagship devices and this is by far the best even with bugs. They will get fixed.
Edit Bluetooth hooked up to my pioneer avic bt130 sounds amazing (slacker,tune in, spotiffy, audio galaxy) with hertz audio mille components front and rear and 2 12w6s in the trunk. I sometimes forget and think I'm on iPod (aac 256 & losless) input

I'm on 1.85 and still have wifi issues. So I turned back on best wifi performance and its just as good as my iPhone 4s was with wifi and I don't think it uses much more battery. My at&t signal is no ware near as good as my iPhone. I'm hopping they fix that. The phone seems to have a lot less lag on 1.85
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[ISSUE] WiFi Death-Grip still not solved?

With all the fuss about new roms, especially ICS and kernels, etc. It seems everyone has alreasy forgotten the dreaded Wi-Fi death-grip that most Desire S, including mine, is suffering.
So I guess I'm trying to call out those, who still experience it. And also maybe, who thinks they've fixed theirs. May it be with the use of hardware modding or simply software.
I don't know about you guys, but for me this issue still bugs me.
P.S.
Do not recommend on buying a new phone as I dont have the money. As I've said on my previous post that I've made, I've recently got robbed.
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I know(maybe wrong but less probably) that the death grip issue is hardware related.
So i doubt we can do something about it, but for me the new radio is a good upgrade. I have a more better reception with it.

uqadwe said:
I know(maybe wrong but less probably) that the death grip issue is hardware related.
So i doubt we can do something about it, but for me the new radio is a good upgrade. I have a more better reception with it.
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This is definitely hardware related no matter what hacks we make, it's a fact that the Desire S has poor signal...
My solution was to move the WiFi router closer to my room!
So now I don't have as much problems, but the signal still isn't as strong as other devices..
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I know that we aren't talking about the same device but, a friend of mine (big Samsung fan) used for a month a Htc Incredible S
He said to me that the WiFi signal was the best he had on any device owned by him(previous Samsung Galaxy S+, after Nexus)

I have a fix.
Hold your phone lower.
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Tested by wrapping a pillow to see if there's a signal drop but the signal is still full.
The same with battery pull. The 1st time i heard about the emmc problem, i pulled my battery countless of times. I remember i got a sticker somewhere that said HTC....rev2.

is there a wifi range issue? i can detect the wifi from the my room upstairs. can't connect to my neighbor's wifi though. what is the suppose wifi range? my previous nokia(s) have about the same range.

I don't have any WiFi problem. Have full recception at home and at work. On the other hand my girlfriend has a WiFi problem on her SGS with every ROM I flashed on her phone. And I recently changed the router, still the same, my DS has full reception everywhere while her SGS has bad reception. So I don't know what you are talking about. I had exacly the same reception with my old Desire phone.
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Keep your hand in the left upper corner, you will notice the problem

So anyone here who have ventured and have done hardware modding to fix the problem?
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I got a great hunch that the problem is just the camera back cover. Any way that we can improve it?
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With the new radio update from the leaked RUU WiFi becomes much stronger. I can even get a signal where my laptop fails. So far so good. I have to mention that those of you who are HTCdev unlocked cannot flash this via fastboot.
The so called "wifi death grip" is as mentioned before hardware related and there is nothing we can do softwarewise. The only thing possible is to hack the cam cover where the antenna is suited and make it longer. That may help but only if you know what you are doing (a specific length is needed) There are dome vids on YouTube about it but since I know "how to hold it" there is no need for me to do that.
The problem occurs especially in landscape when you cover the antenna with you hand. That's it.
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I think the deathgrip issue is mainly hardware.
Tbh, due to the design of current phones (where they put the antenna near the case), any phone has deathgrip issues, just some more than others.