With all the fuss about new roms, especially ICS and kernels, etc. It seems everyone has alreasy forgotten the dreaded Wi-Fi death-grip that most Desire S, including mine, is suffering.
So I guess I'm trying to call out those, who still experience it. And also maybe, who thinks they've fixed theirs. May it be with the use of hardware modding or simply software.
I don't know about you guys, but for me this issue still bugs me.
P.S.
Do not recommend on buying a new phone as I dont have the money. As I've said on my previous post that I've made, I've recently got robbed.
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I know(maybe wrong but less probably) that the death grip issue is hardware related.
So i doubt we can do something about it, but for me the new radio is a good upgrade. I have a more better reception with it.
uqadwe said:
I know(maybe wrong but less probably) that the death grip issue is hardware related.
So i doubt we can do something about it, but for me the new radio is a good upgrade. I have a more better reception with it.
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This is definitely hardware related no matter what hacks we make, it's a fact that the Desire S has poor signal...
My solution was to move the WiFi router closer to my room!
So now I don't have as much problems, but the signal still isn't as strong as other devices..
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I know that we aren't talking about the same device but, a friend of mine (big Samsung fan) used for a month a Htc Incredible S
He said to me that the WiFi signal was the best he had on any device owned by him(previous Samsung Galaxy S+, after Nexus)
I have a fix.
Hold your phone lower.
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Tested by wrapping a pillow to see if there's a signal drop but the signal is still full.
The same with battery pull. The 1st time i heard about the emmc problem, i pulled my battery countless of times. I remember i got a sticker somewhere that said HTC....rev2.
is there a wifi range issue? i can detect the wifi from the my room upstairs. can't connect to my neighbor's wifi though. what is the suppose wifi range? my previous nokia(s) have about the same range.
I don't have any WiFi problem. Have full recception at home and at work. On the other hand my girlfriend has a WiFi problem on her SGS with every ROM I flashed on her phone. And I recently changed the router, still the same, my DS has full reception everywhere while her SGS has bad reception. So I don't know what you are talking about. I had exacly the same reception with my old Desire phone.
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Keep your hand in the left upper corner, you will notice the problem
So anyone here who have ventured and have done hardware modding to fix the problem?
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I got a great hunch that the problem is just the camera back cover. Any way that we can improve it?
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With the new radio update from the leaked RUU WiFi becomes much stronger. I can even get a signal where my laptop fails. So far so good. I have to mention that those of you who are HTCdev unlocked cannot flash this via fastboot.
The so called "wifi death grip" is as mentioned before hardware related and there is nothing we can do softwarewise. The only thing possible is to hack the cam cover where the antenna is suited and make it longer. That may help but only if you know what you are doing (a specific length is needed) There are dome vids on YouTube about it but since I know "how to hold it" there is no need for me to do that.
The problem occurs especially in landscape when you cover the antenna with you hand. That's it.
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I think the deathgrip issue is mainly hardware.
Tbh, due to the design of current phones (where they put the antenna near the case), any phone has deathgrip issues, just some more than others.
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Hey all xda brothers,
I am looking to upgrade from G1 to this desire S. As this phone comes perfectly with all spec in my budget to buy.
One issues i searched was grip of death for wifi, i wanted to know is there any fix for it like using some case or soft fix.
Please guide
WiZ
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Gam3-KiNG said:
Hey all xda brothers,
I am looking to upgrade from G1 to this desire S. As this phone comes perfectly with all spec in my budget to buy.
One issues i searched was grip of death for wifi, i wanted to know is there any fix for it like using some case or soft fix.
Please guide
WiZ
Sent From My G1
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I find "the grip of normality" is the best fix. Seriously, holding it normally and in most scenarios there is no problem. You have to TRY to get it to drop out, and that'll only happen if your wifi signal is already weak.
Most custom roms also have a fix which lowers the threshold at which the phone drops the signal however. I ran the phone on stock rom for 2 months and didn't have one dropped connection. Its an awesome phone.
My only gripe with it is you have to run gpsfix every couple of weeks if you want a GPS lock. A problem with the a-gps chip though so not a HTC sense our android issue. Mildly annoying when you are sat in your car waiting for gps to lock, but at least its fixable, and forgivable considering how good the rest of the phone is.
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Gam3-KiNG said:
Hey all xda brothers,
I am looking to upgrade from G1 to this desire S. As this phone comes perfectly with all spec in my budget to buy.
One issues i searched was grip of death for wifi, i wanted to know is there any fix for it like using some case or soft fix.
Please guide
WiZ
Sent From My G1
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Aaaah another one coming from G1
Can def. recommend the DS!
Didn't really have any probs with the wifi issue...
Well, i using a TGU case and everything, never had issue with wifi disconnection... thats all i have to say
When using my phone normally around my house, the signal stays between maximum strength and -1 bar strength with my normal grips (normal single hand portrait and dual hand landscape view).
I can force the issue and using a tight double handed grip in portrait view and reduce the signal to one bar but I have been unable to cause my connection to drop.
There's a fix from gtg465x which lets you stay connected to the wifi even when your signal is low. This doesn't solve the "death grid" but it improved wifi a lot for me! source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051674
As said before, there is a somewhat hidden setting to get the wifi to perform a bit better and at least not dropping the connection. Go to: Settings -> Wireless and setworks-> Wi-Fi settings, press menu, choose Advanced and check the Best Wi-Fi performance checkbox. Note that as it says in the menu itself, it may consume more power. Isn't there too much topics about this in this forum? Please someone put them togethether with a sticky and delete my double posts. Thanks.
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Hi,
I'm just trying to find out from Sensation users how bad the network signal loss problem is that I have heard about with the Sensation when it has a case on?
Are these people nit picking or is this a real fault ?
I recall the HTC Desire HD apparently 'had' this problem but I have personally found with a Case-mate Tough my signal has always been fine but others have apparently had problems with that same case.
Just really looking for input from Sensation owners about this as I am considering upgrading to the Sensation.
Too many threads on this -.-
Anywho, it is a real problem. However the signal loss is not from the network, rather with wifi. I've come to terms with it as I don't really use my phone in landscape much anymore save for watching videos or browsing the web. I just hold the phone towards the bottom.
Definetly is a real problem though, no one on this board is exaggerating.
One way you can increase WiFi connectivity is to do as follows:
Go to Settings>Wireless & Networks>WiFi Settings **hit menu on the phone** and select Best WiFi performance
Got a case on my sensation, and no problems with wifi here, near enough always showing full strength 8)
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I don't recall ever having issues with Wifi on my phone. I've had this sucker for 2 months.
Hi guys. After suffering with extremely poor Sensation connection for 3 months, i finally got fed up with it and decided to try swapping wifi and network antennas (just using some very thin wires). To my surprise, signal is a bit stronger. Now at home, i constantly have 1-3 bars of UMTS/H when previously it would never get out of gprs/edge. Now this is a surprise. I have not connected wifi antenna yet, so no reports on that. I'll keep monitoring signal strength and if this really works will connect everything properly and will post a tutorial.
It would help if someone else could try that.
Interesting. Please keep posting.
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i'm curious, you soldered them ? it looks like you taped them down.
can you take a close up on where you placed those two wires ?
quite interesting, but i never had problems with a signal before
Try these :
Dial *#*#4636#*#* , choose Phone information
choose WCDMA Preferred or GSM/CDMA Auto(PRL) [Try both and choose the one with the best signal]
i did that and got an Epic signal .
also toggle cyphering it might help a bit with signal.
How has this been working for you,
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How has this been working for you,
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No good tbh, done some testing for a few days and not really worth it IMO.
I have been having loads of signal issues with my sensation and have tried searching these forums for an answer, tried different radios and matching ril's but never had anywhere near the signal i had on my desire.
I have found this today and wondered if anyone has seen it or tried it before. I think its probabilly just a gimmick thats why im asking before i buy one.
So... has anyone tried it?
Cheers
They were proven bad by tests. No good. Can't remember where I saw it, but there was whole article about them on the web.
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tinky1 have you found any solution for signal issue mate. or its just the way hardware is? no solution?
cheers
No solution mate. I probably just got used to it, and it seems OK now.
Sent through the wormhole from my Sensation.
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No solution mate. I probably just got used to it, and it seems OK now.
Sent through the wormhole from my Sensation.
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i think it may just be hardware issue. cos tried all radios setting i think the way phone designed get weaker signal than any other phones its ok when thereis good coverage but when you go somewhere like wales where not much reception you notice it damn bad
cheers
There isn't much reception in Wales as it is, and this phones poor antenna doesn't make it any better. It gives me a shock every time I pop my sim in some old nokia how much better it is.
cihanleanne said:
i think it may just be hardware issue. cos tried all radios setting i think the way phone designed get weaker signal than any other phones its ok when thereis good coverage but when you go somewhere like wales where not much reception you notice it damn bad
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Sent through the wormhole from my Sensation.
I have been playing with this alumiNum foil thing for hours and nights to get good signals... but still no gain.. it was all vain...
I have given sensation to my brother in exchange for xperia ray... Trust me, the signals ate mind blowing... At places where my Sensation would just die, xperia ray shows 75% signals .
My friends and colleagues always complained that my phone is powered off all time but now i never missed a single call...
i would really want to send the phone back to htc its s off so void warranty. might as weel go back to nokia 1110 its the best phone out there week on battery and best reception
cihanleanne said:
i would really want to send the phone back to htc its s off so void warranty. might as weel go back to nokia 1110 its the best phone out there week on battery and best reception
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Read up on how to s-on than send it back.
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HTC Sensation GSM signal lost
Hi all,
I had some signal experience with HTC Sensation 4G which might be helpful to someone. I was having a bad signal reception and when talking to someone on the phone, voice was loosing, and I barely could understand from the other side.
This happened since I put [ROM] Android Revolution HD on my HTC Sensarion 4G. Then I suspect on this but I wanted to try ICS and download the official ROM for HTC Sensation, and the same problem. I was choosing European Roms. Then I downloaded the official ROM for T-Mobile which apply s to HTC Sensation 4G and measuring the signal through
Settings-> About -> Network was kind of the same, but the signal wasn't drooping and when I was talking to someone on the phone it was good, no voice interruption.
Since I put the original stock rom, phone is working quite good, no sudden restart and no signal issues.
Best regards.
Hello Friends,
I am new here and I am interested in buying HTC Desire S
But I saw here and on various other forums/websites, that there's a major WiFi signal loss problem when the device is held in Landscape Mode
So, this problem still exists? I love this phone as it's awesome and in my budget and my main usage will be by means of Wi-Fi
Kindly help
Thanks and Regards
Even though i knew that it has serious issue of poor reception and signal drop, i still bought it as i love this phone. And the answer to your question is,
Yes. it still has poor reception.
Now its up to you if you want to buy it or not.
Is it a Hardware Defect?
I have read somewhere, after FOTA update the problem is gone/rectified a bit
Anyways, I am disappointed
I never noticed a signal drop at mine, except that it lasts a little til it gets the full signal back after returning from sleep, but that's cause of my settings.
Maybe it has to do with my radio image.
You find it (and the related thread) at my signature.
mrintech said:
Is it a Hardware Defect?
I have read somewhere, after FOTA update the problem is gone/rectified a bit
Anyways, I am disappointed
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The problem was reduced after the OTA, all depends if you use the phone to type when in landscape mode (something I never do) depends on your size (or the size of your hands I reckon!)
Great device!
The Wi-Fi does indeed lessen if held in a certain manner - but because I have a very strong signal from my router it never drops out completely. I imagine it could be an issue if your base signal is low to start with.
mrintech said:
Hello Friends,
I am new here and I am interested in buying HTC Desire S
But I saw here and on various other forums/websites, that there's a major WiFi signal loss problem when the device is held in Landscape Mode
So, this problem still exists? I love this phone as it's awesome and in my budget and my main usage will be by means of Wi-Fi
Kindly help
Thanks and Regards
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Welcome to XDA! Yes I'd agree with previous post. Only really an issue if your router is far away to begin with. And being aware of the cause (covering the camera lens area with your hand) means that in a vast majority of cases, you shouldn't have any serious issues with signal drop.
It's a fantastic phone. Since buying mine nearly six months ago I've not had a single instance where I've had a signal drop out whilst I've been trying to use WiFi. You have to TRY to make it drop out in my experience.
Hey friends
Thanks a lot for all your responses
Just wanted to show you this video from YouTube: www . youtube . com / watch?v=qd7XdLmAFUo - See how that guy is holding the phone in Landscape Mode
I don't think, I am (rather say no one is) going to hold the phone in that way while using it on Wi-Fi
Anyways I have following questions:
1. What happens if the phone is lying on Table which is made from either of wood/metal? Will it get disconnected from Wi-Fi
2. HTC Desires S got Android 2.3.5 and HTC Sense 3.0 updates in UK and these updates are getting displayed as a pop-up notifications and are completely dependent on Mobile Operator one is using.
So, do you know/think, in India (Vodafone/AirTel), HTC gives updates by means of Network Operators. Or we have to install the Updates manually after hunting for them
Once cleared, I will jump and order the Phone online
Thanks a lot
P.S. I am new to Android
mrintech said:
Hey friends
Thanks a lot for all your responses
Just wanted to show you this video from YouTube: www . youtube . com / watch?v=qd7XdLmAFUo - See how that guy is holding the phone in Landscape Mode
I don't think, I am (rather say no one is) going to hold the phone in that way while using it on Wi-Fi
Anyways I have following questions:
1. What happens if the phone is lying on Table which is made from either of wood/metal? Will it get disconnected from Wi-Fi
2. HTC Desires S got Android 2.3.5 and HTC Sense 3.0 updates in UK and these updates are getting displayed as a pop-up notifications and are completely dependent on Mobile Operator one is using.
So, do you know/think, in India (Vodafone/AirTel), HTC gives updates by means of Network Operators. Or we have to install the Updates manually after hunting for them
Once cleared, I will jump and order the Phone online
Thanks a lot
P.S. I am new to Android
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1. Never noticed any problems.
2. Maybe, but when I think no one could say^^ But if you take a look at the development section there are many sense 3 and also some sense 3.5 roms based on 2.3.5, if you don't want to wait till it's official release. Without sense you could also get Android 2.3.7 within cyanogen^^
All newcomers are welcome, there are many guids to help you getting started
Swyped from my Desire S
Definetly have problems here.
I have compared it to my other devices, and the desire s has the weakest signal, when far away from the router. It's a realy pain when im upstairs and want to use WiFi.
It also drops a bit when I cover it up with my hand.
The 'fixes' they have around, and built into custom kernels don't seem to work for me either
It's a real pain for me everytime I lose signal and have to reconnect!
It's a shame for me, but other than that I highly highly recommend this phone! It is really good!
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Every response is now making me reconsider my decision
Anyways Thanks All
mrintech said:
Every response is now making me reconsider my decision
Anyways Thanks All
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If you are close to your WiFi router most of the time, you'll be fine! its just fr me , I always use my phone upstairs (far away from my router)
It struggles compared to my other devices !
It's up to you
I personally recommended it , its great for the features and price.
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It's strange, I get a good Wi-Fi signal anywhere in the house with no problems.
If I cover the plastic top rear panel of the phone with my hand, the signal strength does go down a bit, but it's never been a problem.
Maybe it's like the GPS - I find that the case I bought degrades my GPS reception, yet other people with the same type of case seem to experience no problems.
Overall though, I like this phone despite the imperfections. I don't regret buying it.
Its a very good phone for the price.
India does not have a FOTA update yet but to install custom roms or sense 3.0 you will have to root your phone.
As far as wi-fi goes i have had slight problems with the device but it was solved by using the wi-fi fix and also by custom kernels so go ahead!
I tried to make my phone lose wifi signal but only when i really cover up every part of the back of the phone i see some difference.
But when using normal i never experience any loss.
SED9008 said:
I tried to make my phone lose wifi signal but only when i really cover up every part of the back of the phone i see some difference.
But when using normal i never experience any loss.
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Yeh, when I'm next to my router, and I cover up I lose some signal, but it still works.
However, when I'm far away from my router, and i cover my hand over the phone , it loses WiFi completely
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Hey , You are from INDIA so, just order from flipkart.com..Nice service,quick delivery and above all at least Rs 1500 less from market and that ebay thing.
Well personally I like this device too much. Its just awesome. Even my friend has DHD which got a bigger screen but when it comes to clarity ..252 ppi loving it
Wifi is a prob but in my hostel room I got a router attached so no prob but when am out of room it sometime drops signals
Hello Friends
Thanks all for replies
I am bit reluctant in buying this device as my main work is from Wi-Fi and apart from my home I will be using Wi-Fi at some places where the router is kept in upper floor or far away
Anyways, I am considering buying Samsung Galaxy S Plus i9001 as it's in my budget and I can't afford SGS2 or other mobile phones which comes in price range after SGS+ and Desire S
I can live without flash and plastic body
Though I need expert advice/suggestion from Gurus/Masters here: Should I buy SGS+?
Please help
Thanks and Regards
mrintech said:
Hello Friends
Thanks all for replies
I am bit reluctant in buying this device as my main work is from Wi-Fi and apart from my home I will be using Wi-Fi at some places where the router is kept in upper floor or far away
Anyways, I am considering buying Samsung Galaxy S Plus i9001 as it's in my budget and I can't afford SGS2 or other mobile phones which comes in price range after SGS+ and Desire S
I can live without flash and plastic body
Though I need expert advice/suggestion from Gurus/Masters here: Should I buy SGS+?
Please help
Thanks and Regards
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Sgs plus looks nice! It's 1.4ghz and I've seen some videos, its nearly as fast as Sgs2!
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I personally hate Samsung, so go with HTC
So my and my girlfriend switched both from Droid X's back in September, with that said we never had any issue with signal at our house(all ways had full bars 3G). Soon as i came home with my S3 i noticed that both of our phones had poor signal strength 3G 1 bar or 1x. I called verizon tech support they had no idea what was going on and were wanting to replace my phone, saying my phone was the issue. However my Girlfriends S3 was having the same problem now i don't think that both phones are defective and the tech rep was wanted to replace my phone with w refurbished one which i just bought this one brand spanking new. So i was wondering am i the only one with signal issues? And my other questions are .... Is it hardware or a software (radio) issue? Will there be a fix / Update?
It's just Samsung doesn't have good radios.
There's suppose you be an vrlhd update that suppose to help with signal and data
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So there is no hope to get a new radio update at all?
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Theres a update coming soon that'll improve the signal issues with the S3. Its not JB update.
Good at least some hope for my S3.
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I got the vrlhd radio and I don't think it really did anything. It might even have made my wifi at home slower! But maybe I'm just paranoid lol
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I don't think the HD radio did anything to improve my already piss poor reception either.
Synergy r73, Trinity Alpha 7 thanks to the monkey
Yeah none of the radio updates have made any significant difference for me. At my house, my old Motorola phones always had full (4 bars) of 3G, and my bionic actually could pick up a bar or two or 4G every now and then.
My GSIII gets a bar or two of 3G at best, and my reception fluctuates between -100 and -80. I would've never gotten this phone had I known the reception would be this weak.
Everything else about the phone is good, but none of it matters when you can't really use it like a phone and have to depend on wifi, which is somehow also weaker than any other device I've ever used.
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There's no two ways about it - Samsung radios suck @$s. I dumped a Galaxy Nexus earlier this year for this very issue and switched to a rockin' radio Moto razr maxx.
It may be hard to believe, but the s3 radio is actually better than the Nexus was. Fortunately for me I moved to an area with strong 4g almost everywhere, hence I can enjoy the rest of the s3. If I hadn't moved, however, there is no way I would have given up the moto.
It would be nice to see Samsung get their act together. Oh, and don't expect a software update to fix anything.....it won't.
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Theres a update coming soon that'll improve the signal issues with the S3. Its not JB update.
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If you are referring to the HD verison it's not making much difference for most. Or do you have information on something else?
I can barely if at all use my phone at my house or my neighbors across the alley..I have to be on WiFi..I have tried every radio including the leaked HD radio..all horrible..part of me really hoped Samsung would somehow fix this seeing as how they have acknowledged that it is an issue...is there any other way they are going to be able to fix it? Meaning is it just the radio and all they can do is keep trying? Or is there stuff they can fix more on the software side..maybe the RIL (radio layer interface) which as I understand is kind if the middle man software wise between the radio and the operating system..idk just sucks to have such an amazing and fast phone and to really be ready to get rid of it because it is that un usable..and don't get me going with touch wiz..I can't believe how sloe that makes this phone..aosp ROMs are easily 3 times as fast but then they have the data drop issues which are just starting to be fixed now by the RIL patch... ugh so much to think about..wish there was another phone out with a big developer community that was good unlike the galaxy nexus
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aholeinthewor1d said:
I can barely if at all use my phone at my house or my neighbors across the alley..I have to be on WiFi..I have tried every radio including the leaked HD radio..all horrible..part of me really hoped Samsung would somehow fix this seeing as how they have acknowledged that it is an issue...is there any other way they are going to be able to fix it? Meaning is it just the radio and all they can do is keep trying? Or is there stuff they can fix more on the software side..maybe the RIL (radio layer interface) which as I understand is kind if the middle man software wise between the radio and the operating system..idk just sucks to have such an amazing and fast phone and to really be ready to get rid of it because it is that un usable..and don't get me going with touch wiz..I can't believe how sloe that makes this phone..aosp ROMs are easily 3 times as fast but then they have the data drop issues which are just starting to be fixed now by the RIL patch... ugh so much to think about..wish there was another phone out with a big developer community that was good unlike the galaxy nexus
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Maybe the JB update will have better software side support? Or maybe you could take it to your Verizon store and see if it's an issue with your phone? Idk
Well I know its a known problem and I read somewhere that Samsung acknowledged the issue but either way I'm going to call for a replacement just to see if it makes a difference..just gotta think if what to say..cause I know if I just say I have signal issues they will say that smasung is working in an update to fix it..lots of people on all the forums have said that's what they were told when they called for signal issues
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