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So is this Verizon's first phone where data service stays active while on the phone? Or is this a feature that comes with hotspot?
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First VZW phone that does it.
The chip they used for the CDMA radio is the first ever to allow voice and data at the same time over CDMA. Also, if you're in a 4G area, it works by keeping voice on CDMA, and of course using LTE for data.

Really? I would browse to google documents all the time while having someone on speakerphone so I could take notes...
I thought Iphone was the only smart phone that couldn't that.
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if you had wifi, it would use cdma for voice and wifi for data... i used to hate those att commercials saying we couldnt because i almost always could lol

I have used it for a week, and I can tell you this: You CAN do that talk and browse the web thing at the same time on 4G AND 3G. I did it many times, and no problems. No need to jump on wifi or anything.

Shocked the hell out of one of my co-workers today doing this, since he was a die-hard AT&T fanboy and always tried to throw that up in my face, lol.
He went on to accuse me of secretly using WiFi or that it was a fake Verizon case or something.

Yeah when i read that on their website under the features I was completely sure that it would be Simultaneous voice + data ONLY in a LTE area (Like the HTC EVO and WiMax), but i was incorrect.
You can use Voice + Data while under 3G or 4G, but only if you are in an eHRPD area. (Settings > About > Network > Mobile Network Type) If it shows CDMA EVDO rev a or 1xRTT or whatever, you may not Call and use Data.
EDIT: Also, from what is available on the Net about eHRPD, this is the 'transition' between CDMA/EVDO and LTE.... It would be my guess that this means that anywhere eHRPD is available.... they should expect LTE in 2011. Just my two cents...

necosino said:
He went on to accuse me of secretly using WiFi or that it was a fake Verizon case or something.
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Your co-worker is an idiot.

I use it all the time together its amazing I am always in 4g territory so I literally don't touch WiFi on phone. Gotta love unlimited 4g for same price
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Topher227 said:
Yeah when i read that on their website under the features I was completely sure that it would be Simultaneous voice + data ONLY in a LTE area (Like the HTC EVO and WiMax), but i was incorrect.
You can use Voice + Data while under 3G or 4G, but only if you are in an eHRPD area. (Settings > About > Network > Mobile Network Type) If it shows CDMA EVDO rev a or 1xRTT or whatever, you may not Call and use Data.
EDIT: Also, from what is available on the Net about eHRPD, this is the 'transition' between CDMA/EVDO and LTE.... It would be my guess that this means that anywhere eHRPD is available.... they should expect LTE in 2011. Just my two cents...
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Hmmm.. I have been wondering why Verizon isnt using this feature to silence ATT fanboys, but I guess not everywhere with 3G supports it, so they dont want to really advertise the feature if it doesnt work everywhere.

They are most likely trying to perfect their system, as there are probably bugs (not that have seen) they would like to squash out - before going out to squash at&t.
Although i do laugh when i see that at&t commercial now....

Topher227 said:
Yeah when i read that on their website under the features I was completely sure that it would be Simultaneous voice + data ONLY in a LTE area (Like the HTC EVO and WiMax), but i was incorrect.
You can use Voice + Data while under 3G or 4G, but only if you are in an eHRPD area. (Settings > About > Network > Mobile Network Type) If it shows CDMA EVDO rev a or 1xRTT or whatever, you may not Call and use Data.
EDIT: Also, from what is available on the Net about eHRPD, this is the 'transition' between CDMA/EVDO and LTE.... It would be my guess that this means that anywhere eHRPD is available.... they should expect LTE in 2011. Just my two cents...
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No, eHRPD has more to do with LTE smooth handoffs than simul voice and data.
4g-wirelessevolution.tmcnet.com/topics/4g-wirelessevolution/articles/37366-evolution-options-from-cdma-lte-benefits-ehrpd.htm
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I'm in 3G only area and voice/data works at same time for me.
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crazed_z06 said:
Hmmm.. I have been wondering why Verizon isnt using this feature to silence ATT fanboys, but I guess not everywhere with 3G supports it, so they dont want to really advertise the feature if it doesnt work everywhere.
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Probably cuz the iPhone doesn't use it yet?. I have only seen iphones on those att commercials doing the talk and browse thing.

I talked to a Verizon rep and asked them why all their phones didn't do this, they said something along the lines of because they wanted to keep calls on a seperate networks that way it can help stablize and keep from getting dropped calls.. Not sure how accurate that is.. I would think if they are on seperate networks then they could both be utilized..

Tbolt has two radios in it. One for voice/sms and slow data, the other for 3g/4g. That is why you can browse and talk at the same time (as long as you're in 3G or LTE area).

New verizon PRL

Hey all, can anyone upload or direct me to the new 52501 Verizon PRL? Looked on the net but seems no one has uploaded it yet that I can find. Running on a ROM where I need to update PRL manually. Thanks
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You know what - for some reason most Verizon guys don't ever mess around with the PRL. I am not sure why but I never hear anyone on Verizon talk about it. I switched to Sprint for a month and noticed that everyone was messing around with PRL.
Just sharing that bc I am not sure what kind of response you are going to get. If I could remember what I was doing I would try and help - but my phone is not even showing that PRL.
Mine shows PRL 15027.

I'm pretty sure the differences in PRL's (52501 vs. 15027) are that they are lists for 3G and 4G towers respectively. On my Incredible the PRL was 52501 and that was as of Monday the 11th. On my Thunderbolt my PRL is actually 15061 and that is as of today.

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I'm pretty sure the differences in PRL's (52501 vs. 15027) are that they are lists for 3G and 4G towers respectively. On my Incredible the PRL was 52501 and that was as of Monday the 11th. On my Thunderbolt my PRL is actually 15061 and that is as of today.
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The PRL has nothing at all to do with LTE. In fact, it doesn't have anything at all to do with CDMA 3G. All the PRL does is provide a preferred roaming list for the CDMA radio built into the MSM8655. All network authentication pertaining to the MDM9600 is handled via the SIM which is updated with it's own data automatically and there's no way to force it.

loonatik78 said:
The PRL has nothing at all to do with LTE. In fact, it doesn't have anything at all to do with CDMA 3G. All the PRL does is provide a preferred roaming list for the CDMA radio built into the MSM8655. All network authentication pertaining to the MDM9600 is handled via the SIM which is updated with it's own data automatically and there's no way to force it.
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That's nice. I believe since he is a Sprint customer he wants to roam on Verizon's network so he can get better coverage.

Yes you are correct. I want to update my roaming list as I force my phone to roam Verizon
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jmsmeltzer2000 said:
Yes you are correct. I want to update my roaming list as I force my phone to roam Verizon
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So basically you would be a sprint paying customer placing 100% of your calls on the vzw network? I presume data as well? Interesting...
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Once you use a Verizon PRL on a Sprint phone and they notice (IF they notice) they will kindly give you the boot and show you to the door. Just a heads up. If you search the Evo forums (I had that before my TBolt), they had a few users who used the Verizon PRL and got the boot alittle while after since the data was considered to be all roaming data.
I dont know of they will charge you or if it will be a "get out jail" or in this case a termination fee, but they did it because, quite frankly, the 3G speeds etc were complete crap.

loonatik78 said:
The PRL has nothing at all to do with LTE. In fact, it doesn't have anything at all to do with CDMA 3G. All the PRL does is provide a preferred roaming list for the CDMA radio built into the MSM8655. All network authentication pertaining to the MDM9600 is handled via the SIM which is updated with it's own data automatically and there's no way to force it.
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Yes....and No. I have a unique situation wherein I have manually programmed my TB because I use it on PagePlus (a Verizon MVNO). They use the same PRLs as Verizon. You can, in fact, manually program the PRL on the TB once the phone has been switched into NV-only mode (thus not requiring the SIM). I have the TB working very well without the SIM even in the phone, and so clearly the SIM does not handle all network authentication.
For me, I would very much appreciate the PRL as requested by the OP because I must update mine manually, and it's not for illicit purposes. PPC simply doesn't have the ability to provision my phone automatically.

[Q] LTE not working on grandfathered ALLTEL plan

I currently have an unlimited data plan called Connect Pack 1 from my Alltel plan that transitioned over onto the Aria that I was given as a replacement for the Moto Q that I was using.
Anyway, when I got the Skyrocket, they tried to make me transition to an ATT data plan, but I wouldn't go for it. I bought the phone outright, expecting to at least get the 3g working, but they said they couldn't.
I used the apn settings from the aria, and I do get 4G but for whatever reason, the
LTE icon isn't showing up in the notification area. I live in Houston, and we are supposedly one of the area's with it.
The settings I used are the wap.cingular settings that I see are listed elsewhere on here. Is there something additional I need to do to get the LTE to work.
Will the phone look like an Aria to ATT or am I going to be getting a notice to upgrade my account shortly?
Thanks

You need an LTE sim and the LTE plan to be able to access the new network. Maybe see if they can change your sim and plan?

Thanks for the prompt reply
I don't want to change the plan. Right now my data plan is cheap, and I want to keep it that way.
If I get a new sim, is there a chance that the LTE will work using the settings listed on wap.cingular? If it does work, how long before you think I would start getting some notices about it from ATT?

I live in Houston too.. and I have unlimited data.. I do get the lte icon beneath the 4G.. but it looses signal when left alone for a while.(sleep). And I have a regular hspa sim card.. I will go to att today and see what I can find out...
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hope you hear something positive. The Cingular settings give me stable 4G which is actually better than I expected after my discussion with the att store about getting the phone. All they seemed to be interested in was getting me to sign an att 2year contract (haven't been under contract for years) and transition to a limited data plan. Not what I wanted so I just bought the phone off craigslist and entered the apn settings myself.
All I am truly worried about is if they update the data plan themselves if they notice the 4G phone on a 3G plan. I'm hoping since my original phone and the skyrocket are both android it won't raise any flags. I would love LTE but I am pretty happy with hspa+ for now.
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I also am a former alltel customer and was moved to an aria. It recently broke and I got a skyrocket whick is great, but I live in Carlsbad NM and don't get lte anyway. So today I'm going to return the skyrocket and switch back to my alltel plan(at&t already said they could dueto buyers remorse). The guys at the local at&t here gave me the same crap about the skyrocket being unusable, which as we all know is bull. I have a galaxy s II gt-I9100 internationalversion on the way. I will also try my apn settings from my aria. Thanks to everyone who actually assists people unlike corporate customer care.

KNON2000 said:
Thanks for the prompt reply
I don't want to change the plan. Right now my data plan is cheap, and I want to keep it that way.
If I get a new sim, is there a chance that the LTE will work using the settings listed on wap.cingular? If it does work, how long before you think I would start getting some notices about it from ATT?
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LTE uses the new pta APN.
Runs through proxy.mobile.att.net

Galaxy skyrocket 4g/lte connection issues

My galaxy skyrocket has issues with 4g/lte connections. Certain locations i cannot access internet but can make calls. And at times the 4g/lte logo disappears and reappears after a min or 2. Anyone can
Help me with this. Thanks
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Are you running a custom ROM? Even if you're not, if you have an LTE plan, then make sure your APN name is set to ltemobile.apn in your mobile network settings, if it is then restore to defaults in your mobile network settings too... see what that does.
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Yes, i am ruining custom rom. Is the Ltemobile.apn for Rogers? Cause my plan is for AT&T?

Ah sorry bud, yeah that's for Rogers sorry... Just Google AT&T lte apn and you should find the settings pretty easily. Make sure you have the right one set, apart from that maybe restore to default from the menu while in mobile networks?
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Thanks. i did some research seems that there are more people with the same issue has me. There is a problem with AT&T LTE and so called AT&T is working on it. I think changing the APN settings to other than lte should work.

Same problems with my skyrocket. Ever since LTE came to my area my Skyrocket has slowed down significantly. After doing everything ATT has said to do i was told to go to the nearest service center where they played with the phone for over 2 hours only to tell me that the issue has been escalated to the next level. Its not the phone or sim card but how the account is set up to use LTE. I'm lost in the never ending customer service hell of ATT.

been having with lte network for the last 2 weeks myself. Speedtest shows it's as low as 150kbps download. That's slower than EDGE speed for bleep sake. Spent hours with them on phone and they finally told me they have network problem until the 21st. I don't even know if this is true.

[Q] From sprint to AT&T..a little confused.

This Q&A has more to do with the carriers as opposed to the phone. I was with sprint for atleast 8-9 yrs. They recently cancelled my account because of excessive roaming data usage i believe. I miss sprint (unlimited data plans), anyway. I just got the HTC One x and its a great phone, but its not like my previous Evo. Some of the settings I've come to use are gone. Like, does it suppose to be an option to turn the 4g signal off like on the evo or is it just "always on". I dont see any settings for that. Regardless its not an issue since the battery like on the HOX last longer than my evo, but I was just wondering
Another question concerning roaming. Does AT&T allow roaming(stupid question)? My parents stay in the boondocks, and when I visit them, there are times when my phone completely says "No service" I've never seen this before with sprint because the phone would just connect to the Verizon tower(s) nearby. Does at&t allow this? I read in the contract about excessive roaming..but I get great service at my house, just none at theirs. (sprint on the other hand roamed at both places. hence the termination)
Just a couple of carrier related questions i guess because I've only used sprint for the entire span of my cellphone usage, and this is my first time going with a different carrier.

You can't turn LTE off as far as I know, but I think you can turn "4G" somewhere in the setting which will put you on Edge though. Only roaming you need to worry about is if you're leaving the country.

Same as above, you wont be charged for roaming unless going outside of the US. But at&t phones don't roam internationally unless you enable them to through settings, also at&t is a little bit forgiving with roaming I was in US soil in a place with good signal, but my phone decided it wanted to roam an Canada 3g since the area I was in didn't have 3g I ran up $700 bucks in data, it was like two Facebook statuses, lol. But they refunded me since I had agreed to an international data block.
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I too just switched from Sprint and an Evo to AT&T and a HOX. My experience has been different, though. I have family in the sticks and Sprint would always cut out. With AT&T I get consistent coverage and with HSPA+ I am getting data speeds 5x what I got before.
But I too wish I could turn off LTE since there's none here. When the kernel source is released this should become available though on custom roms.

ok i understand now about the 4g..but if at&t allows roaming, why did my phone show "no service" is there an option i need to untick/tick to enable it. Im pretty sure i clicked "data roaming" under network settings.

When I was on the Nitro, *#*#4636#*#* gets you to where you can click "Phone Information" and towards the bottom you can change the network type. From what I remember it does not persist past reboots.
However, when I try it on the AT&T HOX, I can't get the setting to stick, it just immediately switches back to LTE, so there may not be a way for us to set the phone to HSPA+...
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Calico_NC said:
ok i understand now about the 4g..but if at&t allows roaming, why did my phone show "no service" is there an option i need to untick/tick to enable it. Im pretty sure i clicked "data roaming" under network settings.
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Because there are no other gsm carriers towers to borrow from either I'd assume.
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corythug said:
Because there are no other gsm carriers towers to borrow from either I'd assume.
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oh ok. For some reason i thought Verizon used gsm frequencies. ugh that sucks. The only carriers in their neck of the woods is US Cellular and Verizon i believe (27970)

Calico_NC said:
oh ok. For some reason i thought Verizon used gsm frequencies. ugh that sucks. The only carriers in their neck of the woods is US Cellular and Verizon i believe (27970)
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Yeah, Verizon/Sprint/US Cellular use CDMA. AT&T uses GSM. incompatible technologies so you can't roam, you'll just have no service