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I'm currently running ec10 PnP with the green steel theme. I noticed my quadrant score stayed about the same as it was on stock. Is there a rom that provides better performance without a huge loss in functionality?
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I didn't really see any difference in performance between ROM's myself. It wasn't untill I went to the Voodoo Kernels that I saw my Lindpack scores and quadrant scores increase. Im running the PnP with nemisses OTB kernel. Im getting about 16 on lindpack and between 1400 and 1500 on quad.
Also quad scores and not completely reliable so I rely mostly on lindpack for benchmarks.
Anywho, thats my 2 cents. Hope this helps
I've seen a huge difference between ROMs. You crazy homey g.
LOL, I guess I should have added that I haven't tried the AOSP or the MIUI. My main thing was I saw the most difference when I went from the Stock kernel to the Voodoo Kernels. But thats just me. I guess its differenct for everybody depending on what there trying to get out of your phone. For me it has been battery life without sacrificing performance.
And yeah, I am a little nuts, but thats just me, LOL
Thanks for the input. I will search around and see what I can dig up. About to flash superfrakenclean to see what it does
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Any of the AOSP (miui, cm6) stuff will be "faster" than the touchwiz(sfc, pnp) stuff. It just comes down to your personal preferences but there is a definite speed difference between roms just as there is between voodoo and non voodoo. Using an overclocked kernel will also speed you up. Try em out see what you like. the real performance lies in how you use it and that it works for you
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I am also wondering the same as the OP. Currently I am running sFc 2.9.2 with the OTB kernel and undervolting. I am looking for better battery performance with stock speeds.
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I am also wondering the same as the OP. Currently I am running sFc 2.9.2 with the OTB kernel and undervolting. I am looking for better battery performance with stock speeds.
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You guys that are running sfc and otb kernel, did you have any issues with missed calls? I was having difficulty so flashed back to sfc with a tw kernel...no issues so far but battery life and performance are not as good.
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I haven't had the sfc on my phone but have been running OTB for a while and haven't had any issues with missing calls. Also have OTB on my wifes phone as well and she hadn't had any issues either.
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I have a question about this kernel, i have it installed on the phone and flashed on it, it said in the post from nemesis2all that there was a Battery hack, i was curious how to use it, i currently have settings at Min=400 max=1300 all settings undervolted 50mV, how good are these settings? and would this be the optimal settings for performance and battery life? or anyone have a better setup that would help. seem to be getting high 1700 quadrant scores with how it is now.
In order to get the best battery life you would not want your phone over clocked, I run otb kernel as well and just uv the stock setting starting at 50 for the 1000, and progressively stepping down to negative 100. Anyways I run, 1000 -50, 800 and 600 -75, 400 200 & 100 at -100 and I have great battery life even with heavy usage and playing memory intensive games, paradise island, drag racing, pocket soccer. Unless your phone is laggy after you enable lagfix I think overclocking is probably just killing your battery faster the only roms I used light oc' ing for was phoenix and miuiwiz, where both launchers seemed to get some lag after a long days use
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The other school of thought on battery life is, if you overclock the processor, it will finish the task faster and return to a lower power idle state sooner.
well also i used SuperOneClick to root the phone, is rageagainstthecage a good root to use? or are there better ones out there? also sometimes this kernel like to freeze at start up and i have to re flash it. im pretty sure this isnt supposed to happen. any help or advise is greatly appreciated
I've had issues with OTB kernals before. Your problem could be the kernel, but I see you oc'd it to 1300. That too could be causing it. Each phone reacts differently to kernels and oc/uv.
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Are we able to still use any touchwiz kernal from ec10 on the new heintz 57 ee19 updated rom?
Well I re-flashed it and used same ovetclock just lower volts and am pulling a average 2100 quadrant score. Don't know if it means much but no lock ups anymore
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This could just be my stupidity, but if you can flash kernels then you have a custom recovery, right? What's the point of using super one click? Wouldn't having the recovery and the ability to change kernels, etc mean your already rooted? Just seems redundant, I never used a rooting app and still use all the root only apps....
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This could just be my stupidity, but if you can flash kernels then you have a custom recovery, right? What's the point of using super one click? Wouldn't having the recovery and the ability to change kernels, etc mean your already rooted? Just seems redundant, I never used a rooting app and still use all the root only apps....
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Kinda. The only way to flash a kernel is with a custom recovery but you don't necessarily have to be rooted to do that. EE19 is not rooted so that's why you need SOC if you want to root. Rooting opens up a lot of options for apps and moving and copying system files but isn't required for Roms/Kernels.
Anyone have any other general good ideas or cool tricks to do to this phone?
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Currently, im doing a bit of testing with the new phoenix 1.1 rom.
This baby can handle some crazy undervolting.
Currently:
1000 : -100
800 : - 100
600: -100
400: -100
200: -150
Going to see what i can get this down to...a bit more tweaking i bet the battery life can get phenomenal.
Try opening and closing the camera a few times in a row and see if it freezes. Or try a quad test, those are usually the things that will cause issues with too much under volting.
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Try opening and closing the camera a few times in a row and see if it freezes. Or try a quad test, those are usually the things that will cause issues with too much under volting.
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Already ahead of you. Up to:
1000 : -100
800 : - 100
600: -100
400: -150
200: -175
Usually ill run 4 quadrant tests and if it passes that it should be stable. Currently ran a 2187 is that a good score for 1.4ghz?
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also when using the OTB kernal what are safe settings to use? ive been running it at 1400Mhz but it lockes up and geeps giving me force close things on start up and never stops and i have to reflash to stock and start over? im assuming this isnt typical, can any one help out?
Actually that's probably pretty typical for an OC that high. I know I can't run it that high without lockups. From what I see in the original thread, most people don't run above 1300 most of the time.
I am currently using DlevROM and it seems to be working alright, but I am looking for additional input from you guys. I am mainly concerned about battery life and gaming performance, so any recommendations there?
Thanks!
I recommend you download the Infusion GB 1.1 kernel and flash using SGS Kernel Flasher. It dramatically boosts 2d/3d performance when benchmarking, and I haven't noticed any major changes in battery drain. It'll also let you overclock, but I haven't really done much with that. Running Dlev I set it to 1400 MHz and it runs smooth as butter, I get around 3200-3800 from quadrant, just over 4000 from antutu.
Agreed with the above. Roms are a matter of preference as there a lot of good roms. Kernal will help you more. I am using infusion core a2 and the roms are running great. I like fusion (for now) as they have many customizable items in the rom that are great. I just changed the theme (went with sepia) though as I did not care for the pink and purple. The rest runs great.
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IMO updated his TouchWiz kernel yesterday. Up until today I was using Scott's CleanKernel. Both are amazing kernels in my eyes. Both kernels are undervolted and overclocked. I had no issues with CleanKernel at all. I always seems to have bad battery life on the leanKernel until I flashed the updated .4 version this morning. Battery life seems much better compared to any leanKernel before the update. When running CleanKernel, I got a quadrant score of 4980. With leanKernel 0.4 I got 5160, both at stock 1.5GHz. I just want to see if others have noticed what I have between these two kernels.
You forgot that both are released in the Development section. A place where this thread does NOT belong...
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how do i move or delete it?
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how do i move or delete it?
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A mod will move it in when they get a chance.
Just so you know in the future,
if your not a developer its always safe to open up new threads in the Q and A section. (At least that's my rule for myself.. it saves you from the "I'm having a bad day so I will take it out on this guy" post)
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A mod will move it in when they get a chance.
Just so you know in the future,
if your not a developer its always safe to open up new threads in the Q and A section. (At least that's my rule for myself.. it saves you from the "I'm having a bad day so I will take it out on this guy" post)
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XDA needs more people like you. Great reply and it made sense.
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This was handled nicely, thanks guys!
In the future OP pay attention to where you post and
read forum rules and stickies before posting
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Now that this has been moved can we get back on topic? What is yalls experience with these two kernels?
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personally i like leankernal because of how light and simple it is. no unneccesary weight and battery life is great.
Clean kernel is closer to stock than imos kernel which is kinda good and bad. The more you modify the kernel the more chance you'll have of breaking something but you also have the posabilty of making it way better if done right and everything comes out ok.
I would expect clean kernel to be more stable, less battery efficient, and a little slower overall. Where imos kernel could vary drastically with each update due to more major things being edited or changed. Right now imos beta. 4 has pretty good battery life over stock and is stable.
Personally I try the more modified stuff first and if I don't feel it pays off I move to something more stable or closer to stock until an update is released or problem addressed. Just my. 02
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Now that this has been moved can we get back on topic? What is yalls experience with these two kernels?
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Clean Kernel is under volt by default for a given frequency. That is why the battery life is better. If you are looking for both performance and battery life, you should over clock Clean Kernel frequency to 1.89 (default is 1.5) max and min should be 400 range. GPU in Clean Kernel is also over clocked. "stable" is the key word to differentiate between the two. I would think that Clean Kernel is the most stable kernel of all. For speed they should be the same, for bells and whistles, Lean kernel would be your choice. To sum up, Clean Kernel give you both world, stable, performance and battery life... unless you want something else beside those 3.
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Clean kernel is closer to stock than imos kernel which is kinda good and bad. The more you modify the kernel the more chance you'll have of breaking something but you also have the posabilty of making it way better if done right and everything comes out ok.
I would expect clean kernel to be more stable, less battery efficient, and a little slower overall. Where imos kernel could vary drastically with each update due to more major things being edited or changed. Right now imos beta. 4 has pretty good battery life over stock and is stable.
Personally I try the more modified stuff first and if I don't feel it pays off I move to something more stable or closer to stock until an update is released or problem addressed. Just my. 02
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I agree with you on the kernel changing concept. And I have also noticed that .4 is much better than .3
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Clean Kernel is under volt by default for a given frequency. That is why the battery life is better. If you are looking for both performance and battery life, you should over clock Clean Kernel frequency to 1.89 (default is 1.5) max and min should be 400 range. GPU in Clean Kernel is also over clocked. "stable" is the key word to differentiate between the two. I would think that Clean Kernel is the most stable kernel of all. For speed they should be the same, for bells and whistles, Lean kernel would be your choice. To sum up, Clean Kernel give you both world, stable, performance and battery life... unless you want something else beside those 3.
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So you're a cleankernel guy? I definitely agree with you about this being all three things. So as far as the GPU being overclocked, why does lean kernel .4 perform better in games
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So you're a cleankernel guy? I definitely agree with you about this being all three things. So as far as the GPU being overclocked, why does lean kernel .4 perform better in games
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Like I have mentioned, if you aiming for gaming performance then you better to use lean, but then your battery life wouldn't be too good. Most of people just want a fast stable phone and a good battery life for daily use, then Clean will be a better choice. The reason it's stable because no tweaks to it except for OC/UV. Have you tried to play game with Clean over clocked to 1.89?
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Like I have mentioned, if you aiming for gaming performance then you better to use lean, but then your battery life wouldn't be too good. Most of people just want a fast stable phone and a good battery life for daily use, then Clean will be a better choice. The reason it's stable because no tweaks to it except for OC/UV. Have you tried to play game with Clean over clocked to 1.89?
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Actually I never thought of overclocking and playing the game until now. I guess Im just used to being at stock. But I will give it a try and see how that works. But what your saying definitely makes sense and should clear some things up. Performace + battery life = cleankernel. PERFORMANCE + PERFORMANCE = leankernel. Although the battery life on leankernel has dramatically been improved.
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Actually I never thought of overclocking and playing the game until now. I guess Im just used to being at stock. But I will give it a try and see how that works. But what your saying definitely makes sense and should clear some things up. Performace + battery life = cleankernel. PERFORMANCE + PERFORMANCE = leankernel. Although the battery life on leankernel has dramatically been improved.
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Haha.. you got it...almost.. Performance+battery life+stable=Clean. Super perfornance -less battery life - 10% stable=Lean kernel. Good luck bro.
ok I just setup an app profile in setcpu. so now everytime im in my game, its overclocked. When im using it normally, its at stock speed. With the screen off, its at min 190 and max 452. so far so good!
.5 is up now with more fixes.
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/31329-[kernel][touchwiz]-Leankernel:-Minimalistic-Kernel-(8/28---v0.5)
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Thanks for the heads up! More battery drain fixes. Although it says in order to revert back to stock we have to flash a ROM with a kernel. Would a nan backup work? Anyone tests the kernel yet
Hey! I just purchased two 2600mAh batteries for my S4 along with a Samsung Spare battery charger. Now, my phone is rooted and is running a custom Rom and kernel. I am using Ktoonsez KT-SGS4 TW ATT Edition. now what I'd like to know, is (since I'll have SO much battery power) what are the fastest possible Ktweaker settings that ARE STABLE AND DO NOT EXCEED 2.1Ghz? Let's turn this into a competition. Whoever can give me their best and awesome settings wins. C'mon guys, let's figure this out. I don't want conservative battery settings, I'd like some beastly processing settings that will help TouchWiz with the lag it contains. Please respond soon, you guys here at XDA are amazing.
Thanks!
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Snapdragon 600 Quad-Core @ 2.0Ghz
Adreno 320 GPU @ 504 Mhz
w/ Omega ROM Series & KANGABEAN 4.3 AOSP.
The lag should really not be there on a custom touchwiz rom
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And just how are you going to determine if I'm more beastly than you?
Balance is key my friend... the whole point of ktoonsez' kernel (well more like his govenor ktoonservative) is power with battery conservation. Even with 2x 2600 you need some or else you will kill both in a day. I have an anker 5600mah battery and it is possible to kill it in a day just from screen use.
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Stock kernel settings (Ondemand at 1.8 GHz or something like that). Yes, you heard me, stock. Overclocking won't do much for you at all. The other thing you're changing is the governor, which simply chooses when to ramp up the clockspeed from resting state. Changing the governor isn't going to get you more FPS on something, or really even much faster load times, for the phone will ramp up to full speed when doing work or animations.
It's fun to tweak and play with this sorta stuff, but really, you're really just gonna get placebo in terms of speed, and if you try to save battery through undervolting, you'll either have rather unnecessary performance loss or instability. Also, overclocking runs the risk of burning up the phone, and possibly destroying it to where it never turns on again all for something you can barely notice.
You really wanna speed up your phone, make things load quicker, and overall make the experience faster? Get Greenify and hibernate any apps you don't actively use (you'd be amazed at how much some background apps like Facebook consume.) Go into your Developer Options and set the animation speeds to 0.5x (or even off). Use a custom launcher such as Action Launcher or Nova Launcher that will help you access your apps quicker. Get the AOSP web browser, which tends to be faster than the other browsers. Just don't go overclocking your phone acting like that 0.3 GHz of extra power usage and potential instability is making any more than a few fractions of a second in difference.
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Stock kernel settings (Ondemand at 1.8 GHz or something like that). Yes, you heard me, stock. Overclocking won't do much for you at all. The other thing you're changing is the governor, which simply chooses when to ramp up the clockspeed from resting state. Changing the governor isn't going to get you more FPS on something, or really even much faster load times, for the phone will ramp up to full speed when doing work or animations.
It's fun to tweak and play with this sorta stuff, but really, you're really just gonna get placebo in terms of speed, and if you try to save battery through undervolting, you'll either have rather unnecessary performance loss or instability. Also, overclocking runs the risk of burning up the phone, and possibly destroying it to where it never turns on again all for something you can barely notice.
You really wanna speed up your phone, make things load quicker, and overall make the experience faster? Get Greenify and hibernate any apps you don't actively use (you'd be amazed at how much some background apps like Facebook consume.) Go into your Developer Options and set the animation speeds to 0.5x (or even off). Use a custom launcher such as Action Launcher or Nova Launcher that will help you access your apps quicker. Get the AOSP web browser, which tends to be faster than the other browsers. Just don't go overclocking your phone acting like that 0.3 GHz of extra power usage and potential instability is making any more than a few fractions of a second in difference.
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Talk about a pessimist. You must of had some issues undervolting and configuring because my ktweaker settings have TRIPLED my battery life and kept my device stable without decreasing performance at all.
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Hey! I just purchased two 2600mAh batteries for my S4 along with a Samsung Spare battery charger. Now, my phone is rooted and is running a custom Rom and kernel. I am using Ktoonsez KT-SGS4 TW ATT Edition. now what I'd like to know, is (since I'll have SO much battery power) what are the fastest possible Ktweaker settings that ARE STABLE AND DO NOT EXCEED 2.1Ghz? Let's turn this into a competition. Whoever can give me their best and awesome settings wins. C'mon guys, let's figure this out. I don't want conservative battery settings, I'd like some beastly processing settings that will help TouchWiz with the lag it contains. Please respond soon, you guys here at XDA are amazing.
Thanks!
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Snapdragon 600 Quad-Core @ 2.0Ghz
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I have designed a setup for ktweaker just for your device the i337.. ultimate performance ultimate battery life.. tell me how it goes.
http://www23.zippyshare.com/v/75298192/file.html
Drop it in your ktweaker folder. If you experience any issues let me know and ill make it perform even faster.
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Oh - And for all devices including and other than SGH-I337 here is my latest and greatest in ultimate performance / battery life.
Super Bull 1.2
http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/48155660/file.html
Works on all Qualcomm SGS4 (non international)
Installation Directions: insert file into /sdcard/ktweaker/ and in Ktweaker application select restore prefs from SD card.
Enjoy! Please send your screenshots of your amazing battery life
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Can anyone check back for results on these settings
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Can anyone check back for results on these settings
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Try them yourself! It doesn't hurt to try
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Thanks for posting these trying them now!
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Here's my results after a 12 hour work day with Super Bull 1.2!
Used GPS to navigate, used Facebook in the background all day, took 15 pictures, made about 5 phone calls, downloaded about 400mb on LTE, txt messaged all day, installed programs, browsed this forum about 20 times, heres the results @ 50% battery. Full screen brightness 90% of the time. This profile has an overclocked CPU and GPU!
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Oh and P.S.
-=Stock Battery=-