Ok so the temperature in my room is 5degrees the tf has been closed up all night and ive just woken up turn on tf unlock look at cpu spy to check for deep sleep etc look on my clock i see on temp reading 20degrees i double check with other apps its the same the outer case was stone cold and i thought just how close is the temperature sensor to the cpu?
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anyone know?
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Just dismantel it and take a look see?
My guess would be in the CPU or CPU socket..
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look on my clock i see on temp reading 20degrees i double check with other apps its the same
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Um, the temp being displayed on the clock and your other apps is not a temperature reading of the current ambient temperature around the device.
To my knowledge, there is no temperature sensor located on the device to measure the local temperature. The temperature being displayed on your clock is coming from an outside source displaying your local outside temperature.
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Um, the temp being displayed on the clock and your other apps is not a temperature reading of the current ambient temperature around the device.
To my knowledge, there is no temperature sensor located on the device to measure the local temperature. The temperature being displayed on your clock is coming from an outside source displaying your local outside temperature.
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No i use the sense clock with battery temp readings and have a little digital weather station in my room which has almost become redundant because of the asus weather widget but you get my point.
My room temp was 5degrees my battery sensor was 20 so thats why i thought maybe the battery sensor is right next to the cpu
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The temp sensor should be built inside the cpu, at least last time I checked that was the trend, not sure about this particular case. However! Electronics heat up extremely fast, for example my computer goes from off to the BIOS setup page and already it's more than 10 degrees above room temperature. And then it idles there, not gaining or losing anything significative, it's just at it's working temperature. So my guess is exactly that.
Also check the manual, the TF probably has a working temperature range between 0 - 35 Celsius, and it's not good to use it outside it's working range. Talking about room temperature, just to be clear.
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I also think should be around CPU.
bracken21 said:
My guess would be in the CPU or CPU socket..
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But its said to be a battery temp sensor
I just wonder if its a semi accurate guege of cpu temp ie how close they are in the internal space
Plus overclocking you want to be able to guege the cpu temp to find good operating range
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Plus overclocking you want to be able to guege the cpu temp to find good operating range.
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Based on my TF, I can't help but wonder if those overclocking need to compensate for something more than just extra heat build up.
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I have been watching my battery temp with batstat, noticed normaly its around 76-80 degrees, underclocked with screen off , and when running apps like maps or a game and on the charger it reads 101+ at times , I just want to know what is the normal temp and high temp for everyone else, stock or rooted , under or over clocked, what app makes your temp go up the most and so on, Thanks, this is my first post.
Your temps seem pretty normal. Nothing out of the ordinary, I don't really watch my temps though. I know the hottest it ever got was 105.3, I am usually around 80-85 when just doing normal things though. I'm OC'd to 1.2GHz, Smartass, BAMF 4.4.1 kernel.
g00s3y;1295021 I'm OC'd to 1.2GHz said:
what is the highest tempature to be cautious about , and can you explain the smartass any better? im running 1.2 also and smartass
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I'm not sure about what is the highest, I know you don't really want it getting to 105 and staying there for an extended period of thim, it was quite hot then. I'm not sure how to explain smartass, i'm not a dev of any kind lol, I believe it's a more agressive "interactive" governor, with an auto screen off profile, but don't quote me on that. I believe Adrynalyne has a post/blog about it, forget where that was though, sorry.
105 is pretty normal actually. 130+ is the range you want to avoid at all costs. Mine usually hovers around 108ish.
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105 is pretty normal actually. 130+ is the range you want to avoid at all costs. Mine usually hovers around 108ish.
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And your phone isn't hot as hell when you hold it? Where is 105 normal for temp?
I hover around here with normal use
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And your phone isn't hot as hell when you hold it? Where is 105 normal for temp?
I hover around here with normal use
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Its warm but not hot. Same with my Droid 2 would usually hover around 105.
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miketoasty said:
Its warm but not hot. Same with my Droid 2 would usually hover around 105.
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You must have never been cold in the winter
Ive never seen 130 + , but running the navigation and on the charger for an extended amout of time it gets pretty hot , I havent used my t-bolt nav. for a couple of hours but with my D1 i used it for 8 hours strait I was scared it was going to over heat , I could imagin the t-bolt over heating running the nav for that long of a time period.
My tbolt runs significantly hotter than my Droid X did. The x would usually stay I the 80-90 range and almost never get over 100*. While my tbolt runs in the 90-100 range and has even got up to 115* a couple times while it was on the charger.
When charging my Tbolt battery gets around 102.
I noticed after installing TelsaCoil 1.5 the battery gets hotter while charging. Not sure what would cause this...
At 118 the overheating light flashes red and green... Had mine at 120 a few times charging and using it with a case on it, so now I don't use it while charging with the case on.
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They need to start putting in CPU fans in the phones lol. Sometimes I can feel my phone getting warm without me messing with it . And can't figure out why
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Hello all! I am running a simple battery app on my GT 2 7.0 that provides battery temperature. The highest I have seen thus far has been roughly 35 degrees Celsius. And an area of the tablet gets warm (not hurtful hot, merely warm). Is this a normal temperature for the battery? I am not familiar with the appropriate temperatures so figured I'd seek guidance from people with more experience, haha. I am not rooted or running any type of custom rom, just stock ICS that came on the tablet.
I am looking to get a case for when I am holding the tab as I find my hands do get warm while holding the tab, maybe that is causing the problem. When I had the SG Player 4.0, I installed a battery temp app, I noticed slightly warmer temps without a case.. I bought a case within that week and temps never went above 27 degrees Celsius, even when I was pushing the little guy a lot.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
weird
the case should increase temp. as it prevent heat dissipation sooo weird !!!
Elixir has a widget with small footprint so you can monitor it.
Mine never runs hot and I oc mine to 1.4ghz. Doesn't feel hot anyway. I use a case on my tablet.
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Elixir has a widget with small footprint so you can monitor it.
Mine never runs hot and I oc mine to 1.4ghz. Doesn't feel hot anyway. I use a case on my tablet.
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Thanks for sharing the app and a screenshot!
It appears yours, during the time of the SS was running at roughly 40C.. And it runs fine? I suppose I get paranoid about such things, but mine never goes over 35C and doesn't stay that way for long periods of time.. Right now, it is running at 31C and I am locking/unlocking the screen quite a bit as I am using Facebook messenger..
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Hello all! I am running a simple battery app on my GT 2 7.0 that provides battery temperature. The highest I have seen thus far has been roughly 35 degrees Celsius. And an area of the tablet gets warm (not hurtful hot, merely warm). Is this a normal temperature for the battery? I am not familiar with the appropriate temperatures so figured I'd seek guidance from people with more experience, haha. I am not rooted or running any type of custom rom, just stock ICS that came on the tablet.
I am looking to get a case for when I am holding the tab as I find my hands do get warm while holding the tab, maybe that is causing the problem. When I had the SG Player 4.0, I installed a battery temp app, I noticed slightly warmer temps without a case.. I bought a case within that week and temps never went above 27 degrees Celsius, even when I was pushing the little guy a lot.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
Rotundjere said:
35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
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What could I do to keep temperatures down if I may ask? I don't do heavy gaming on the tab when I do run games. I am mainly using the internet in some form - browser, YouTube, etc. Thanks for your input.
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Rotundjere said:
35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
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I've run several android devices overclocked for years. My old evo has been oc for two+ years. Kid I sold it to runs ics on it overclocked.
So do some research on the subject.
Well, I am not wanting to or trying to OC my tab as I am too much of a "noob" for that, lol. Just curious about the temperature the battery is running at and all.
I find that idle, the temp can be around 30 degrees Celsius.. this is somewhat surprising to me, but it's my first tablet as well, so I suppose I worry I will cause some sort of damage or that it simply has a defect of some type.
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Hi all.
I am interested in locating the current SOC/CPU temperature on an Android Nexus 5 under operation. It is easy to retrieve the CPU frequency for each core by reading of the values from /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq while the phone is connected to a client - but the SoC temperature is usually found in different locations - based on the device / SoC vendor.
The device under test - holds a Snapdragon 800 / Hammerhead, revision 2.2, Plattform version 65536 - running Android 4.4.2
Our interest is to correctly identify when the device starts to throttle the frequency - and to report the accurate temperature at that moment. The work is used within the context of academic research. My role as a student is to identify how high temeperatures can affect throughput in computing intensive environments - and thus, more accurately provide reproducable results.
I am not interested in locating an app for this. I am interested in locating the thermal endpoint that reports the operating temperatue of the SoC. I am going to write the app myself - and dont need the overhead and interference of background services.
We have previously done this with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, running on a Texas Instruments based SoC (OMAP) - but as noted, different vendors, different locations.
I tried to ask for this information on the Qualcomm developer forums, but their boards function quirky.
In advance. Thank you.
I can tell you that the frequency throttle is 60c based upon the stock kernel.
the suspend temperature is 60c
the core throttle is 80c
core throttle suspend temperature is stock 80c
the temp in which the device will throttle untiul reduced is 5c, the core throttle temp hysteresis is 10.
mistahseller said:
I can tell you that the frequency throttle is 60c based upon the stock kernel.
the suspend temperature is 60c
the core throttle is 80c
core throttle suspend temperature is stock 80c
the temp in which the device will throttle untiul reduced is 5c, the core throttle temp hysteresis is 10.
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Hi! My CPU temperature is about 80-82°C when gaming and about 65°C when browsing chrome, facebook and some otther apps. What do you think, is that okay?
Hi,
Some reading, maybe...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540370&highlight=hot and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597508&highlight=hot (and there is others).
Algotis said:
Hi! My CPU temperature is about 80-82°C when gaming and about 65°C when browsing chrome, facebook and some otther apps. What do you think, is that okay?
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ha, you are persistent. its normal!
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Hi,
Some reading, maybe... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597508&highlight=hot (and there is others).
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lol, thats his thread!
simms22 said:
lol, thats his thread!
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Hi,
Bah, he will re read it in this case with all the explanation given, just a head up... He will finally understand some things about "pseudo" overheating?
I also replied in some of these threads here with the same thing, like you, these thread topics/questions/posts about "Nexus 5 hot, overheating, too hot etc..." like in the Nexus 4 section bother me, but it's just my opinion...
If not, I'm sorry to use the search function (quickly right)...
In any case it's not the goal of the OP to know "Why is my N5 overheating when I'm playing for 15 mins an heavy game" or something like that, I was replying to Algotis...
mistahseller said:
I can tell you that the frequency throttle is 60c based upon the stock kernel.
the suspend temperature is 60c
the core throttle is 80c
core throttle suspend temperature is stock 80c
the temp in which the device will throttle untiul reduced is 5c, the core throttle temp hysteresis is 10.
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simms22 said:
ha, you are persistent. its normal!
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lol, thats his thread!
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I believe you, i just cant understand why do ppl say that their phone is not that hot, max 65C...
Algotis said:
I believe you, i just cant understand why do ppl say that their phone is not that hot, max 65C...
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people tend to embellish, make things sound better than they actually are. if you see who is saying that their phones hot or not, youll notice people that are new to xda, or dont post much, that say their phone doesnt heat up. yet, you see more people who have been on xda a while, or post more often, post that the phone can get hot. personally, i believe in being truthful and honest, even if the truth isnt good.
We attempted to measure the temperature from the following thermal sensor location:
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone7/temp
The idea came from a forum post about CPU temperature measurement on Nexus 4 devices - where the vendor was Qualcomm as well.
I cannot confirm that this is the correct measurement point, but it does raise and fall based on workload - and the values make sense as they represents temperatures from 30-75 C.
Looking at the following measurements, leave little doubt that the temperature throttels. The frequency drops down to 1.2-1.5 GHZ after a few minutes.
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Does anyone have better ideas?
As a test I played 'NFS No Limits' in my Galaxy S7(Exynos) for about 20 min and I felt hotness all over the metal sides especially more in the area near power button. Also the back of the phone was a lot warm for touch. Is this expected from the S7 even with the heat elimination method inside. Below linked image is the results I recorded. Kindly take a look at the CPU temperature as well as the battery performance throughout the test.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B60MJrdiGFpZREM4enF5VVduUG8/view
Please note that Game Launcher optimizations were no used.
Is everything fine based on the above results?
PS: Even watching YouTube videos(in native app) for like 6 min makes the device a bit warm with CPU Temp to 34C from 30C(Idle state). Still normal?
I just bought mine this afternoon and it was a bit warm when loading the updates which I would expect is normal when downloading big software updates. Right now it feels normal.
Blues fan said:
I just bought mine this afternoon and it was a bit warm when loading the updates which I would expect is normal when downloading big software updates. Right now it feels normal.
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Well if you have time, please play and see how 'NFS No Limits' is on yours I see stuttering in game when there is rain. To measure CPU temp at regular intervals use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp
I repeated your test of NFS No Limits for 20 minutes using the CPU temperature app on a Galaxy S7 (Exynos). My results were similar:
Before test: 35C (it had heated up from 32C idle to install the game and app for the test)
At 7, 13, 17 and 20 minutes: 38C.
Battery before test: 35%
Battery after test 27%.
I also saw stuttering with the rain. The game was very smooth initially.
So very, very similar results.
JovHok said:
As a test I played 'NFS No Limits' in my Galaxy S7(Exynos) for about 20 min and I felt hotness all over the metal sides especially more in the area near power button. Also the back of the phone was a lot warm for touch. Is this expected from the S7 even with the heat elimination method inside. Below linked image is the results I recorded. Kindly take a look at the CPU temperature as well as the battery performance throughout the test.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B60MJrdiGFpZREM4enF5VVduUG8/view
Please note that Game Launcher optimizations were no used.
Is everything fine based on the above results?
PS: Even watching YouTube videos(in native app) for like 6 min makes the device a bit warm with CPU Temp to 34C from 30C(Idle state). Still normal?
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ideal over 30c?? mine is under 27c...28-29c after 30min of browsing, yours seems defective or you are having rouge app thats using your cpu.
wipeout207 said:
I repeated your test of NFS No Limits for 20 minutes using the CPU temperature app on a Galaxy S7 (Exynos). My results were similar:
Before test: 35C (it had heated up from 32C idle to install the game and app for the test)
At 7, 13, 17 and 20 minutes: 38C.
Battery before test: 35%
Battery after test 27%.
I also saw stuttering with the rain. The game was very smooth initially.
So very, very similar results.
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Seems similar. Still don't know why some guys are having better cooling.
38 is not that warm. My G906K would get up to 49 c while I was in the sauna and would not have a problem. If the phone gets too warm it will go into standby mode stating it needs to cool down
Op location? Dubai? Room temp 30c ?
That app does not show real cpu temp...
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at best what you have is battery temp.
And that was just because google services starter acting up ( from 9 to 15% usage in 10 min, consumed 6% battery ), no gaming or heavy use.
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The therm_zoneX values are in no way related to CPU as far as I can see from these pics(attached).
The CPU is the hottest thing in the device; therm_zoneX reads are 75, normal for a CPU under load, therefore they indicate CPU temp.
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On rockchip's website they listed a play store app called SetCPU that could be used for overclocking the CPU. Has anyone tested this with good results? Searching on google, it seems that other people have been able to overclock the RK3188 CPU from stock 1.6ghz to 1.8ghz+ successfully. However, the overclocked RK3188 chip was in a miniPC rather than an Android Head Unit.
Rockchip website, scroll down to "Download SETCPU overclock app"
http://www.rockchip.nl/downloads/
UPDATE 9/28/16
Users report noticeable increase in performance after adding a passive heatsink to the CPU and RAM.
See the following posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68820360&postcount=13
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68899885&postcount=22
Seems overclocking is locked by the kernel- we're limited to adjusting the governor through Kernel Adiutor, No-frills CPU Control, and SetCPU.
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with that big cooler on mine, I am not worried about heat. Even loaded for minutes the board is at room temp. The heatsink is barely even warm. I still get frustrated drving my wives car with the 4.4.4 unit. God it is so much faster. I love the zipties though, looks as good as my 3m tape solution haha. After the paste gets good and hard, I may just remove the tape.
I tried to overclock. It will not keep the changes in the files. It is locked in the kernel.
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I would say.... Give it a shot
Or i will... Lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor
Need root?
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Need root?
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Yes, root is required.
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Oooh, that sounds very nice! I was planning on dismounting the unit from the car for the coming weeks anyway, to see if I can get the v6.5 Malaysk firmware to play and do some other tweaks. So this one is a nice feature to test.
Anybody got an idea of how the cpu is cooled? In comparison to a tablet or minipc, I would say they have ample of room to do so, but the question is whether they actually did something.
i would be interested in seeing the results of someone else trying this out
Judging by past photos, there doesn't seem to be any active cooling whatsoever. Additionally, I don't believe passive cooling is even installed - it's just free air. In any case, my MTCD tends to get quite hot.
https://img.xda-cdn.com/XGgubcDPFwM...GdD8Un98jDL93VOVFZVGVWdwspoGnzs=w1547-h870-no
Might be a good idea to use a passive cooling ?
I downloaded Setcpu, but its not as easy as choosing a new setting. The stock frequency tables are all that are there. It allows you to load new frequencies from a .txt file. I haven't had a chance to do this yet.
i used setcpu for root and it works fine. The kernel is locked to 1.6 but..................
even under full load continually the cpu never went above 1.2
I went out bought a heatsink and put it on the cpu. Cranked it to performance and 1.6 on boot with setcpu
It is a completely different machine now. It works as well as my mtcb 3188. Today I got gps workin and a workin radio good day.
What passive heatsink did you buy?
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just an aluminum fined one from a local shop. covers the memory and the cpu.
It still can peg the cpu with i loveradio and google driving maps open at the same time, but it no longer freezes and is usable. Takes maybe 5 seconds to open google maps if only thing running. It is usable now until it burns up.
They definitely had a heat/speed problem. If someone could unlock the kernel it would be better. It is usable now and no longer a piece of junk.
just got an email from joying, it does have a gps card slot, it is just inside the box. on the front left.
How do you mount the heatsink?
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How do you mount the heatsink?
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3m outdoor tape
Mine is not locked at 1.2. I can flip the governor to performance and it runs at 1.6 all day long.
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Mine is not locked at 1.2. I can flip the governor to performance and it runs at 1.6 all day long.
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did you use a script or a cpu tool to switch it? if you used a script mind sharing it so i do not have to go looking for file location?
I did notice if I chose performance it would run at 1.6 also, on any other setting it never made it above 1.2 no matter how bad the load was. I would rather having it boot at 1.6 also. maybe 1.8 now that i know initd is working on maylay 6.5
maybe something like
echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
it has a file that lists them all there also
Mine would go to 1.6 on interactive. I switched it to performance and it locked on 1.6, but I'm not sure how hot its getting. there doesn't seem to be a sensor. Will these shutdown or reboot if they get too hot? I was also able to make these changes using Kernel auditor which is free. I switched it back to stock. I dont know enough about these and how they protect themselves from heat. Is there a kernel source available anywhere?
what kind of unit you have? mine refused to go above 1.2, but it is all about the limits and timing maps on how high it lets it go, not just the max frequency.
it was slow as could be.
I have a joying unit.