Heating issue S7(Exynos) - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

As a test I played 'NFS No Limits' in my Galaxy S7(Exynos) for about 20 min and I felt hotness all over the metal sides especially more in the area near power button. Also the back of the phone was a lot warm for touch. Is this expected from the S7 even with the heat elimination method inside. Below linked image is the results I recorded. Kindly take a look at the CPU temperature as well as the battery performance throughout the test.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B60MJrdiGFpZREM4enF5VVduUG8/view
Please note that Game Launcher optimizations were no used.
Is everything fine based on the above results?
PS: Even watching YouTube videos(in native app) for like 6 min makes the device a bit warm with CPU Temp to 34C from 30C(Idle state). Still normal?

I just bought mine this afternoon and it was a bit warm when loading the updates which I would expect is normal when downloading big software updates. Right now it feels normal.

Blues fan said:
I just bought mine this afternoon and it was a bit warm when loading the updates which I would expect is normal when downloading big software updates. Right now it feels normal.
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Well if you have time, please play and see how 'NFS No Limits' is on yours I see stuttering in game when there is rain. To measure CPU temp at regular intervals use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp

I repeated your test of NFS No Limits for 20 minutes using the CPU temperature app on a Galaxy S7 (Exynos). My results were similar:
Before test: 35C (it had heated up from 32C idle to install the game and app for the test)
At 7, 13, 17 and 20 minutes: 38C.
Battery before test: 35%
Battery after test 27%.
I also saw stuttering with the rain. The game was very smooth initially.
So very, very similar results.

JovHok said:
As a test I played 'NFS No Limits' in my Galaxy S7(Exynos) for about 20 min and I felt hotness all over the metal sides especially more in the area near power button. Also the back of the phone was a lot warm for touch. Is this expected from the S7 even with the heat elimination method inside. Below linked image is the results I recorded. Kindly take a look at the CPU temperature as well as the battery performance throughout the test.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B60MJrdiGFpZREM4enF5VVduUG8/view
Please note that Game Launcher optimizations were no used.
Is everything fine based on the above results?
PS: Even watching YouTube videos(in native app) for like 6 min makes the device a bit warm with CPU Temp to 34C from 30C(Idle state). Still normal?
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ideal over 30c?? mine is under 27c...28-29c after 30min of browsing, yours seems defective or you are having rouge app thats using your cpu.

wipeout207 said:
I repeated your test of NFS No Limits for 20 minutes using the CPU temperature app on a Galaxy S7 (Exynos). My results were similar:
Before test: 35C (it had heated up from 32C idle to install the game and app for the test)
At 7, 13, 17 and 20 minutes: 38C.
Battery before test: 35%
Battery after test 27%.
I also saw stuttering with the rain. The game was very smooth initially.
So very, very similar results.
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Seems similar. Still don't know why some guys are having better cooling.

38 is not that warm. My G906K would get up to 49 c while I was in the sauna and would not have a problem. If the phone gets too warm it will go into standby mode stating it needs to cool down

Op location? Dubai? Room temp 30c ?

That app does not show real cpu temp...
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at best what you have is battery temp.
And that was just because google services starter acting up ( from 9 to 15% usage in 10 min, consumed 6% battery ), no gaming or heavy use.
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The therm_zoneX values are in no way related to CPU as far as I can see from these pics(attached).

The CPU is the hottest thing in the device; therm_zoneX reads are 75, normal for a CPU under load, therefore they indicate CPU temp.
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[Q] What is your normal and high battery temp?

I have been watching my battery temp with batstat, noticed normaly its around 76-80 degrees, underclocked with screen off , and when running apps like maps or a game and on the charger it reads 101+ at times , I just want to know what is the normal temp and high temp for everyone else, stock or rooted , under or over clocked, what app makes your temp go up the most and so on, Thanks, this is my first post.
Your temps seem pretty normal. Nothing out of the ordinary, I don't really watch my temps though. I know the hottest it ever got was 105.3, I am usually around 80-85 when just doing normal things though. I'm OC'd to 1.2GHz, Smartass, BAMF 4.4.1 kernel.
g00s3y;1295021 I'm OC'd to 1.2GHz said:
what is the highest tempature to be cautious about , and can you explain the smartass any better? im running 1.2 also and smartass
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I'm not sure about what is the highest, I know you don't really want it getting to 105 and staying there for an extended period of thim, it was quite hot then. I'm not sure how to explain smartass, i'm not a dev of any kind lol, I believe it's a more agressive "interactive" governor, with an auto screen off profile, but don't quote me on that. I believe Adrynalyne has a post/blog about it, forget where that was though, sorry.
105 is pretty normal actually. 130+ is the range you want to avoid at all costs. Mine usually hovers around 108ish.
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miketoasty said:
105 is pretty normal actually. 130+ is the range you want to avoid at all costs. Mine usually hovers around 108ish.
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And your phone isn't hot as hell when you hold it? Where is 105 normal for temp?
I hover around here with normal use
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And your phone isn't hot as hell when you hold it? Where is 105 normal for temp?
I hover around here with normal use
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Its warm but not hot. Same with my Droid 2 would usually hover around 105.
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miketoasty said:
Its warm but not hot. Same with my Droid 2 would usually hover around 105.
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You must have never been cold in the winter
Ive never seen 130 + , but running the navigation and on the charger for an extended amout of time it gets pretty hot , I havent used my t-bolt nav. for a couple of hours but with my D1 i used it for 8 hours strait I was scared it was going to over heat , I could imagin the t-bolt over heating running the nav for that long of a time period.
My tbolt runs significantly hotter than my Droid X did. The x would usually stay I the 80-90 range and almost never get over 100*. While my tbolt runs in the 90-100 range and has even got up to 115* a couple times while it was on the charger.
When charging my Tbolt battery gets around 102.
I noticed after installing TelsaCoil 1.5 the battery gets hotter while charging. Not sure what would cause this...
At 118 the overheating light flashes red and green... Had mine at 120 a few times charging and using it with a case on it, so now I don't use it while charging with the case on.
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They need to start putting in CPU fans in the phones lol. Sometimes I can feel my phone getting warm without me messing with it . And can't figure out why
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Where is our temp sensor how close to cpu is it?

Ok so the temperature in my room is 5degrees the tf has been closed up all night and ive just woken up turn on tf unlock look at cpu spy to check for deep sleep etc look on my clock i see on temp reading 20degrees i double check with other apps its the same the outer case was stone cold and i thought just how close is the temperature sensor to the cpu?
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anyone know?
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Just dismantel it and take a look see?
My guess would be in the CPU or CPU socket..
Danzano said:
look on my clock i see on temp reading 20degrees i double check with other apps its the same
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Um, the temp being displayed on the clock and your other apps is not a temperature reading of the current ambient temperature around the device.
To my knowledge, there is no temperature sensor located on the device to measure the local temperature. The temperature being displayed on your clock is coming from an outside source displaying your local outside temperature.
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Um, the temp being displayed on the clock and your other apps is not a temperature reading of the current ambient temperature around the device.
To my knowledge, there is no temperature sensor located on the device to measure the local temperature. The temperature being displayed on your clock is coming from an outside source displaying your local outside temperature.
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No i use the sense clock with battery temp readings and have a little digital weather station in my room which has almost become redundant because of the asus weather widget but you get my point.
My room temp was 5degrees my battery sensor was 20 so thats why i thought maybe the battery sensor is right next to the cpu
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The temp sensor should be built inside the cpu, at least last time I checked that was the trend, not sure about this particular case. However! Electronics heat up extremely fast, for example my computer goes from off to the BIOS setup page and already it's more than 10 degrees above room temperature. And then it idles there, not gaining or losing anything significative, it's just at it's working temperature. So my guess is exactly that.
Also check the manual, the TF probably has a working temperature range between 0 - 35 Celsius, and it's not good to use it outside it's working range. Talking about room temperature, just to be clear.
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I also think should be around CPU.
bracken21 said:
My guess would be in the CPU or CPU socket..
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But its said to be a battery temp sensor
I just wonder if its a semi accurate guege of cpu temp ie how close they are in the internal space
Plus overclocking you want to be able to guege the cpu temp to find good operating range
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Plus overclocking you want to be able to guege the cpu temp to find good operating range.
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Based on my TF, I can't help but wonder if those overclocking need to compensate for something more than just extra heat build up.
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Lowest Cpu setting

Im gonna try my MT4G @ SetCpu 537 max 122min.
Anybody ever try using that daily?
Wonder what the consequences would be.
Mite lag the whole day
HTC Glacier (Black) - Virtuous Unity 2.39/Kernel V9 Unity/Beats Audio/Good Screen/Good Emmc
We'll see Im running it on Miui ...
I don't think you'll see much improvement. That rom already gives over a day's battery life.
At some point the phone will take longer doing normal tasks and the length of the task will outweigh the battery saved. It would be interesting to find a sweet spot.
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At some point the phone will take longer doing normal tasks and the length of the task will outweigh the battery saved.
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Yea that's what you have to realize. You have to maintain a healthy balance!
I run 1017 ghz smartass. No setcpu or anything. Text practically all day. Phone calls for maybe half hour collectively, game for a good hour or hour and a half, cause I get bored. And a lot of browsing XDA, Fantasy Football, and tracking the packages I order. I'm so happy because with this balance I get everything flying by my fingers and still amazing battery. Running Royal Ginger 3.0 with there Kernel. Amazing! :-D
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All on 1400 mAh battery.
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Possible drawbacks might be WiFi dropouts, sync failures, etc. There is a minimal allowed frequency for a device, and it's for a good reason.
I had trouble when I set the min below 350 (or whatever the exact value is). It gets laggy after a wake up for a few seconds if I go lower. So I'd wake the phone, then have to wait a few seconds to do anything after any click on any icon while it spun up the extra power.
At 350 it was plenty to wake the phone up into a usable state and I didn't notice any lag at all going form 350 to 1000 when it needed the extra power.
Running Cyanogen and using it for 30-45 minutes of calls a day, ample texting, and 30-45 minutes of Angry Birds I get 2 full days out of the battery before I need a charge.
But I also don't leave data on. That was the battery key for me. Data turns on in 2 seconds, so I only turn it on when I need it. If I want to see a website I hit the data button and by the time the browser loads I've got a connection. Since I don't care about instant notifications of email, I just don't need data on all the time so there's no point in using battery life for it. If I ever do need it on constantly, it's available to me and I'll drop down to 1 day of battery.
Same settings and about the same battery life here on CM7 with demonspeed kernel. The smartass governor with 122/1017 works great
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Yea that's what you have to realize. You have to maintain a healthy balance!
I run 1017 ghz smartass. No setcpu or anything. Text practically all day. Phone calls for maybe half hour collectively, game for a good hour or hour and a half, cause I get bored. And a lot of browsing XDA, Fantasy Football, and tracking the packages I order. I'm so happy because with this balance I get everything flying by my fingers and still amazing battery. Running Royal Ginger 3.0 with there Kernel. Amazing! :-D
All on 1400 mAh battery.
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I'd suggest not doing that but just keep the default settings by system.

Battery temperature

Hello all! I am running a simple battery app on my GT 2 7.0 that provides battery temperature. The highest I have seen thus far has been roughly 35 degrees Celsius. And an area of the tablet gets warm (not hurtful hot, merely warm). Is this a normal temperature for the battery? I am not familiar with the appropriate temperatures so figured I'd seek guidance from people with more experience, haha. I am not rooted or running any type of custom rom, just stock ICS that came on the tablet.
I am looking to get a case for when I am holding the tab as I find my hands do get warm while holding the tab, maybe that is causing the problem. When I had the SG Player 4.0, I installed a battery temp app, I noticed slightly warmer temps without a case.. I bought a case within that week and temps never went above 27 degrees Celsius, even when I was pushing the little guy a lot.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
weird
the case should increase temp. as it prevent heat dissipation sooo weird !!!
Elixir has a widget with small footprint so you can monitor it.
Mine never runs hot and I oc mine to 1.4ghz. Doesn't feel hot anyway. I use a case on my tablet.
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scottx . said:
Elixir has a widget with small footprint so you can monitor it.
Mine never runs hot and I oc mine to 1.4ghz. Doesn't feel hot anyway. I use a case on my tablet.
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Thanks for sharing the app and a screenshot!
It appears yours, during the time of the SS was running at roughly 40C.. And it runs fine? I suppose I get paranoid about such things, but mine never goes over 35C and doesn't stay that way for long periods of time.. Right now, it is running at 31C and I am locking/unlocking the screen quite a bit as I am using Facebook messenger..
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Hello all! I am running a simple battery app on my GT 2 7.0 that provides battery temperature. The highest I have seen thus far has been roughly 35 degrees Celsius. And an area of the tablet gets warm (not hurtful hot, merely warm). Is this a normal temperature for the battery? I am not familiar with the appropriate temperatures so figured I'd seek guidance from people with more experience, haha. I am not rooted or running any type of custom rom, just stock ICS that came on the tablet.
I am looking to get a case for when I am holding the tab as I find my hands do get warm while holding the tab, maybe that is causing the problem. When I had the SG Player 4.0, I installed a battery temp app, I noticed slightly warmer temps without a case.. I bought a case within that week and temps never went above 27 degrees Celsius, even when I was pushing the little guy a lot.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
Rotundjere said:
35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
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What could I do to keep temperatures down if I may ask? I don't do heavy gaming on the tab when I do run games. I am mainly using the internet in some form - browser, YouTube, etc. Thanks for your input.
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Rotundjere said:
35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
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I've run several android devices overclocked for years. My old evo has been oc for two+ years. Kid I sold it to runs ics on it overclocked.
So do some research on the subject.
Well, I am not wanting to or trying to OC my tab as I am too much of a "noob" for that, lol. Just curious about the temperature the battery is running at and all.
I find that idle, the temp can be around 30 degrees Celsius.. this is somewhat surprising to me, but it's my first tablet as well, so I suppose I worry I will cause some sort of damage or that it simply has a defect of some type.
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Antutu v6.0 is now available

Many years looking the same... but now antutu is completely redesigned and looks really nice.
You can now compare chipsets performance also ...
I know that lot's of people don't like it but many others do... I do!
Have a look... I bet you'll all like the new antutu...
I scored 69k at first test using Mokee
Just to let you know
41k on sMIUI 12.3
69K?! O.O
You make me want to try Mokee
44k on my overly crowded sMIUI. Looking at LG G4 score, we should be able to reach that point so 69k is the expected score.
leledumbo said:
44k on my overly crowded sMIUI. Looking at LG G4 score, we should be able to reach that point so 69k is the expected score.
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your sMiui must be really messy...
got that on mine -
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your sMiui must be really messy...
got that on mine -
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Not sMIUI fault I believe, when it was still virgin I can manage 5Xk too on antutu 5. With aqua mail (3 accounts), facebook, hangouts, line, path, twitter, plurk, slack, whatsapp and many other background apps, it's hard to reach that score back.
Stable chinese MIUI rom 7.0.7.0, rooted and greenified. Managed 68500.
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66 668. I would prefer 2 points less
On sMiUI 12.10 my phone scored 65k. Forgot to take screenshot.
As States before... 69k on my Mokee... But... It is more 70k than 69... Anyway, what a machine
Ooops... 70K... Getting better! Now with a few more apps installed... So I guess it has to do with the ROM... The apps you have installed have nothing to do with antutu score i guess... Just saying...
Getting 47858 on CM12 on charger without restarting :/
Resetting and running in Airplane mode gave me 42k on charger
Running again without a charger gave me 58119...
Restarted again, ran on battery got 60070...hmmm
On charger phone got higher temps, and there is throttling.
grant_ said:
Getting 47858 on CM12 on charger without restarting :/
Resetting and running in Airplane mode gave me 42k on charger
Running again without a charger gave me 58119...
Restarted again, ran on battery got 60070...hmmm
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Our device will get slower when it's hot due to thermal throttling, the thermal engine controls both CPU and GPU. When charging, especially when it's over 60%, the temperature will reach a high value that may exceed the threshold imposed by the thermal engine. Thus, either the core speed will be clocked down (CPU0-3 max 600, CPU4-5 max 864) or they will be totally off. Same with GPU (max 300 when hot, 600 when normal). I think Xiaomi didn't notice that many of its customers live in the equator lines where the temperature is generally warm to hot (25-35) so the threshold values will be reached much sooner than those who use the phone in norther or souther area.
It's true... But in this version of antutu the scores dont get uch a diferente after 2 or 3 tests... In previous version I used to get 57k, then 54k and then 50k... In this version I get 70k, 69k and then 69k again... Not much of a diference in results after heating... Why would this happen? I never get less than 69k
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It's true... But in this version of antutu the scores dont get uch a diferente after 2 or 3 tests... In previous version I used to get 57k, then 54k and then 50k... In this version I get 70k, 69k and then 69k again... Not much of a diference in results after heating... Why would this happen? I never get less than 69k
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Maybe you need to put more background apps to your phone as I do
Having a screenshot of Android Assistant (both Monitoring and Processes tabs) might help the analysis.
Around 70k is a very bad score I must say, for our hardware.
On last Antutu I got 59k score and for example my friends Iphone 6s had 57k.
Now I'm getting 69k, and he is getting 120k scores.....
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Around 70k is a very bad score I must say, for our hardware.
On last Antutu I got 59k score and for example my friends Iphone 6s had 57k.
Now I'm getting 69k, and he is getting 120k scores.....
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TBH, that's not bad since you can buy FOUR Mi4C for an iPhone 6s. Twister Core in Apple A9 is the best single core processor to date (which Snapdragon 820 Kyro cores might be able to beat when it comes out seeing latest benchmark info). Our Snapdragon 808 is even nowhere near 810, how could you expect it would beat Apple A9? Here's the official AnTuTu list for each SoC:
IPhone 6s with 57k... In your dreams. Mrkubix go to sleep...
Sd820 still does not beat iPhone single core performance... Dont know how they did that twister... But they did it very well... Typhoon was already wonderful...

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