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hi guys, I come from an hd2....so I know cwm, android and the process of flashing...
but I have some questions...
are the 4.0.3 roms stable? have you got any suggestion for a good rom?
when I flash ICS from GB have to full wipe? I know that if I don't wipe the data/factory reset keep my personal data, but ICS is a big update...if I don't wipe my data will be lost? or the rom could not run the previous apps and read my data? maybe they are in a different folder in GB...or ICS...
doing the s-off, cwm and root my warranty expires...can I restore the phone like new without risks of bricking?....the procedure of s-on is really dangerous or is just for the disclaimer?
thx in advance. you guys are awesome
First of all, welcome to the Sensation family
throcker said:
hi guys, I come from an hd2....so I know cwm, android and the process of flashing...
but I have some questions...
are the 4.0.3 roms stable? have you got any suggestion for a good rom?
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4.0.3 roms are stable, especially now that the devs are using base 3.32. 3.32 will be the official ICS update for the Sensation so you can count on it for daily use
when I flash ICS from GB have to full wipe? I know that if I don't wipe the data/factory reset keep my personal data, but ICS is a big update...if I don't wipe my data will be lost? or the rom could not run the previous apps and read my data? maybe they are in a different folder in GB...or ICS...
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Generally if you're coming from GB or coming from other devs roms, a superwipe is recommended to avoid headaches. You can use apps to backup SMS/Call log and Apps+data. For apps+data, I recommend using Titanium Backup.
doing the s-off, cwm and root my warranty expires...can I restore the phone like new without risks of bricking?....the procedure of s-on is really dangerous or is just for the disclaimer?
thx in advance. you guys are awesome
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Based from what I've read, yes, S-ONing is dangerous and a couple of people have bricked their Sensations because they haven't followed instructions properly so there is an inherent danger doing it. (I haven't done it myself)
+ 1 to all the above!
And as far as roms go, it depends what you want:
*there is an 'official' HTC ICS build out there, if you want to keep relatively similar to stock sense then that is the one for you
*Virtuous Inquisition is the best AOSP (vanilla ICS) rom I've tried, it's not quite perfect yet (only a few minor niggles like the lockscreen music widget not showing up or not displaying the correct track, minor, but still slightly annoying) but is definitely stable enough for daily use, and is damn slick!
*my own personal choice and the rom I've been using for a while now is Darkforest 5.5.0 coupled with Nova Launcher from the market, it's now sort of a hybrid of Sense and vanilla ICS. Using the Nova Launcher means I can't use the HTC widgets (that I really like) but it does have a boatload more customisation options than plain old Sense.
Hope this helps at all
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Mate, I am new to HTC sensation, i had earlier LG Optimus P500/ Samsung Galaxy SL i9003/Spice Mi350n... I have purchased new HTC Sensation Z710e and now i want to explore my phone by installing root/custom rom/recoveries and all as i used to do in other devices, let me know is this HTC sensation form the same and i can follow it or is there a seperate thread for HTC sensation Z710e,
I am requesting you because you are using your signature as HTC Sensation Z710. Pls help me.
The Z710e is the original Sensation
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I shall be interested in this, finally made up my mind to go for a Sensation XE
swapping my Iphone 4 for one.
didn't want to go back to a Samsung Galaxy s2 prefer sense UI and used to have an HD2 also so great to see so many developers that used to work on the HD2 on this Sensation area.
Hopefully I will not be disappointed
i also need help if anyone can...my revolutionary gets stuck at the 1St attempt of fastboot, I also have hboot 1.18. debugging is on, fastboot is off, no HTC sync is installed that I know of &I used "universal naked driver beta" as my drivers for the sensation. what must I do now for me to get this s-off?
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first...thank you all very very helpful
now....what is vanilla ICS?...and what are shipped roms?
I want keep GB now, for compatible apps...
s-off s for unlock bootloader...cwm we know...rott (I don't need if I flash a custom rom...)...but do I need superCID for flashing? what is it?
hey, I don't understand some things...well, my sensation have the brand...this means I have to change my cid? for flash roms?
in my case, can you tell me what have I got to do for full unlock my phone and be able to flash anything I want?...
Vanilla ICS is the standard version of Android on the Galaxy Nexus (vanilla because it is plain, lol)
With regards to rooting and the such, everything you need is here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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ok, thanks, but, some things are not clear....too many things....
change the cid is useful just if I want install a custom rom with customRUU method....right?
for install via cwm superCID is not needed?...
some roms need 4ext recovery....do you suggest me to use that and not cwm?...
I read about hboot....it's the system partition size, right?....have I got to change it for flash some roms? if I do something wrong with hboot I may brick my phone...
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ok, thanks, but, some things are not clear....too many things....
change the cid is useful just if I want install a custom rom with customRUU method....right?
for install via cwm superCID is not needed?...
some roms need 4ext recovery....do you suggest me to use that and not cwm?...
I read about hboot....it's the system partition size, right?....have I got to change it for flash some roms? if I do something wrong with hboot I may brick my phone...
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Hboot= bootloader. Messing around with it can brick your device , if you don't know what you are doing. There are firmware upgrade files that include hboot+radio and are needed for some roms to boot.
Supercid is needed only if you are messing with firmware upgrades and ruus. That has to do with regions.
4ext is a recovery fully compatible with cwm. It just has a nicer ui.
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itsme12345 said:
Mate, I am new to HTC sensation, i had earlier LG Optimus P500/ Samsung Galaxy SL i9003/Spice Mi350n... I have purchased new HTC Sensation Z710e and now i want to explore my phone by installing root/custom rom/recoveries and all as i used to do in other devices, let me know is this HTC sensation form the same and i can follow it or is there a seperate thread for HTC sensation Z710e,
I am requesting you because you are using your signature as HTC Sensation Z710. Pls help me.
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Broski, take note that Z715e and Z710e are 99% alike (if not 100%)
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Broski, take note that Z715e and Z710e are 99% alike (if not 100%)
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Actually 99%.. the xe has better chips
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throcker said:
ok, thanks, but, some things are not clear....too many things....
change the cid is useful just if I want install a custom rom with customRUU method....right?
for install via cwm superCID is not needed?...
some roms need 4ext recovery....do you suggest me to use that and not cwm?...
I read about hboot....it's the system partition size, right?....have I got to change it for flash some roms? if I do something wrong with hboot I may brick my phone...
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OK, I recently flashed a HD2 for a friend so I know where you are coming from:
1) Do super CID, it is an easy process, with no risk , it does not break your warranty, and it will save you problems (soon you'll update to ICS and it is better to be super CID).
2) I did S-on myself after being S-Off to return my phone for the dust in screen issue. The process is fairly straightforward and if you follow instructions correctly there is no risk. The risk of bricking exists if you do things without FULLY reading all instructions.
3) No need to mess around with system partitions etc. Sensation is a phone that has plenty of space for current ROM's and apps so the flashing process is much simpler than with HD2. Just use your favorite recovery, wipe, and flash... as simple as that (of course, I am talking about GB, to upgrade to ICS the process is different).
4) I suggest you use 4ext, as you say, some dev use it because it gives you the option to make selections during the flashing process.
ok thank you all....
there are so many roms, but....I can't find what i'm searching...
I want try 3 type roms:
-an ics galaxy nexus
-a sense 3.5 without any....UI customizations, bootscreen ecc, I have flashed 5 minutes ago a 3.5 with transparency, custom icons and other features I don't like....so, I want a stock like rom
-an ics 3.6 sense stock like....
how I switch from cwm to 4ext?
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*Virtuous Inquisition is the best AOSP (vanilla ICS) rom I've tried, it's not quite perfect yet (only a few minor niggles like the lockscreen music widget not showing up or not displaying the correct track, minor, but still slightly annoying) but is definitely stable enough for daily use, and is damn slick!
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Just to clear it up, Virtuous Inquistion is not a true AOSP ROM. It's just a sense-based ROM themed/modified to match ICS
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Just to clear it up, Virtuous Inquistion is not a true AOSP ROM. It's just a sense-based ROM themed/modified to match ICS
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True, but it does a pretty good job of it, the only things of Sense they have left in are things that either didn't work from AOSP, or things that were better than the AOSP counterparts. Off the top of my head I think all I noticed was the camera, there may have been more underneath the operating system I wouldn't have noticed without looking, but it's still as close as you'll get to vanilla ICS on a Sensation at the moment
Will it be rootable? I hear there is a new boot loader or something along those lines, would that cause any issues?
No it won't be a problem but you should start gathering up all the tools you need because your new sensation will come with the hboot 1.27 or 1.28 and I just s off my sensation and I had hboot 1.27.0000 I now have hboot 1.27.1100 and it was easy all did was downloaded this all in one toolkit that does it all it will s off and root and super cid I can provide you a link to my dropbox and that way all you would need to do is download the zip and unzip it and open the tool folder and scroll down and you will see a icon that says menu you will then place that menu on the outside of the tool folder and when ready connect the sensation via USB and choose sync mod and click on the menu icon and every thing is done by number's for example if won't to s off press number 1 and it will do just that it will do everything you need it to do
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And you can't do anything wrong I have placed all the files you need inside the toolkit including the almighty revolutionary hboot 1.17 and it doesnt get any easyer then that
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Hello Deiskei
I got a warranty replacement on my Sensation two weeks ago. The replacement came wth the original stock GB installed. Frankly I expected ICS. I simply performed S Off using Revolutionary, 4EXT Touch latest version, then ARHD 1.2.0. Everything went flawlessly.
Have no fear.
Regards
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Wow your Lucky to get a sensation and have the old hboot thats awesome
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I got a replacement from TMOUS a month or two ago. It came with the 1.50 GB ROM and whatever hboot comes with that firmware. I honestly didn't check. I think it's 1.19 or 1.20 hboot?
I left it like that for a day, then flashed the 3.32.531.14 TMOUS RUU (1.27 hboot) that got leaked a day later. Then I used juopnutbear to s-off and the rest is history.
I wouldn't worry about an upgraded hboot either way.
So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
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3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
Hi Folks! I am completely new to XDA as well as all the android stuff, I used to be on Nokia before Forgive me if I have posted in the wrong section...
Basically I managed to upgrade my HTC Desire S to ICS 4.0.4 using the RUU on HTCDev.com. Having used it for about a month now, I want to go back to Gingerbread 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 as it is much easier on the battery as well as being much smoother to run. My problem is that from the shippedromes.com site, there are several gingerbread ruu's available, so out of this list (these are all europe), which one do i choose for Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 2.1?:
1. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe
2. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
3. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed.exe
4. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_234765_signed.exe
5. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe
To me they all look the same but obviously there is some difference as they have different numbers in their file names.
Thanks in advance!
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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Thnx for your quick reply,
My phone is already over 1 year, so warrenty is is gone anayway I think!
I understand the procedure to downgrade my phone, such as changing the HBOOT, unlock bootloader, S-off, revolutionary, clockwork recovery etc. But when it comes to actually installing/flashing the Gingerbread RUU, which RUU should I used? I wan to downgrade to Gingerbread 2.3.5 (the one that shipped with the phone originally) with Sense 2.1. I'm in the U.K, and my phone is unbranded. It is also currently running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 with Sense 3.6. If you could inform me which RUU I should use from the list in my first post I will be very grateful.
Thnx again
The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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Thanks alot! I think I will flash 1.28 first and see what it is. If not, I will probably flash 1.47 instead, which should be possible without anymore tinkering as it's a higher RUU.
And I definitely don't want Sense 3.0, I would rather stay on ICS then!
Thanks again for the quick answers!
There was never Sense 2.1 for this phone to begin with. Sense 3.0 is the earliest you can get.
This makes your question, well, void.
Any Gingerbread RUU will be fine.
1.28 is Sense 2.1.
1.47 is the same but with some fixes. I suggest to go with this.
The rest higher versions are with Sense 3, except the ICS RUU of course
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make sure u get the lowest version to get Hboot 0.98.0000 in order to proceed with the revolutionary to root ur device , if u have problem with scanoob post with the misc version let me know , his one doesnt work , i got working misc to downgrade the hboot.
I want to try liberty rom and it needs newer hboot. I have a really old hboot and i wonder how/where to get a new one. And are there any disadvantages with the 2.16 hboot? Because i remember in the past my old hboot was good because i wiuld flash radios even with s-on. But now im s-off so maybe it doesnt even matter...just asking.^^
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I want to try liberty rom and it needs newer hboot. I have a really old hboot and i wonder how/where to get a new one. And are there any disadvantages with the 2.16 hboot? Because i remember in the past my old hboot was good because i wiuld flash radios even with s-on. But now im s-off so maybe it doesnt even matter...just asking.^^
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Disadvantages:
You have only the choice between cikoleko's [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.4.4][04-JUL] CyanogenMod 11 HTC One S [hboot 2.16] and bilals [ROM][4.4.2][Sense 6][SVN] LIBERTY One S - The Sixth Element, which are currently supporting hboot 2.16.
I've you decide to switch over to hboot 2.16, you may follow the steps described in {Discussion}{KK 4.4.2}{Sense 6}{S4} Liberty ROM & Flashing Instructions (thx to dd98) starting with point 5-15.
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Disadvantages:
You have only the choice between cikoleko's [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.4.4][04-JUL] CyanogenMod 11 HTC One S [hboot 2.16] and bilals [ROM][4.4.2][Sense 6][SVN] LIBERTY One S - The Sixth Element, which are currently supporting hboot 2.16.
I've you decide to switch over to hboot 2.16, you may follow the steps described in {Discussion}{KK 4.4.2}{Sense 6}{S4} Liberty ROM & Flashing Instructions (thx to dd98) starting with point 5-15.
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ok, and will i be able to go back on lower hboot if i later decide to use another ROM?
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ok, and will i be able to go back on lower hboot if i later decide to use another ROM?
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Yes for sure!
alright, thats everything i wanted to know. ty very much!
Hboot 2.16 changes
Does anyone know what the changes are from Hboot 2.15 to 2.16? Is there more storage space for the user?
Thanks!
I'm sorry for being a bit ignorant but.. what's the reason to upgrade the hboot? I have s-off, hboot 2.15, and I had no problems with installing Liberty 6th Sense. Any suggestions?
This is actually the best ROM I had and tested for Ville S4, and I can recommend it for anyone (no major issues with battery life, ringtones, communication BT/WIFI/LTE/GPS, restarts). Still, the most stable was my old, original ROM, but... I wanted to taste something new ;>
6th Sense won with:
CandyCat (very good ROM but communication issues eliminated it),
MaximusHD (communication failures and no ringtones),
Liberty S4Max (ringtones and several lost communications)
ViperOne S 3-2-1 (reboots).
Looking forward for future updates of 6th Sense. Thanks for everyone for work on this.
Why does it clearly state in multiple places that HBOOT 2.15 is not supported?
I have no major problems with CandyKat at all.