[Q] Gmail Imap help, please. Permanent One Step deletion assistance needed... - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Basically, I want to permanently delete messages with the Android Imap email client, I dont use the gmail app.
Currently, the way its set up, when I delete messages via Imap in the email app, they are left in the Imap/Trash folder on the desktop side when I log into gmail. The way I understand it, the messages should be permanently deleted with the way its configured now.
I want them to be permanently deleted when I select to delete them in the android email app, I dont wanna have to go into another folder and delete the messages or have to log into gmail via my desktop. Ive attached a couple settings pages...maybe somebody can spot something. Thanks a lot!

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E-mail app bug?

Hi friends,
I have the problem with e-mail (POP3/IMAP) application on G1.
Everything's working fine except the e-mail automatic checking (that could be set up for some period of time) and deleting messages from the server.
1. Automatic checking (for POP3) is not working - don't know why... So, I have to check e-mail manually by clicking in Inbox or using refresh button
2. Deleting messages (for POP3 settings) is not working at all. Even if it is set up to delete messages from the server and message is deleted - it is going to Trash folder, then if it is deleted from Trash and refreshed it is still existing on the server and in the Trash folder on G1. I really don't know how to get it working... I have tried a few settings and it is not removing messages from the server at all.
Is anybody have it working? Thanks in advance for any help!
Regards.
Zencooler
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Gmail IMAP must be the most confusing thing ever

Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
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Thank you all
Alex
think your imap pickle is more an imap thing then a wm thing as google imap in outlook
on my pc is the same way
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astrbac said:
Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
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You don't sound familiar with Gmail's label concept. Think of each label as a mask, and each message having a bitmap of its labels. You can tag each message with many labels. You label (move to folder) and remove labels (delete from folder) by masking bits.
Delete from a folder (including Inbox) and you've only masked a label bit. If you want to really delete the message, delete it from [Gmail]/All Mail.
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
I use FastMail.FM for my IMAP mail.
When I want to sync IMAP sub folders I have to go to:
Menu, Tools, Manage Folders and select all subfolders that I want to synchronize. (to make sure the content is synced, not just an empty folder)
Doesn't GMAIL work the same way?
Quite frankly, I don't see any advantage of use IMAP over pop and not to mention POP is faster and simpler
I see a lot of advantages.
My IMAP servers is pulling POP3 mail from other servers, so I have all my mail in one place.
I always have it backed up.
I can access it from anywhere, and read my mail anywhere.
(from my PC, laptop, Shift, webmail)
I can archive mail to subfolders.
etc,etc..
BTW, you are right about the speed. POP3 is a bit faster to check for new mail. I don't see why it would be simpler.
imap support push
pop3 itself does not
astrbac said:
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
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Lately I've been using Postbox on Windows and Mac. It's built from Mozilla code and has similarities to Thunderbird, but it's a lot more stable and a lot better IMO. Also, it makes using Gmail IMAP a whole lot easier.

[Q] How to sync emails from PC with Android phone (Galaxy S)?

Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a n00b question but I would like to sync my emails from my PC with my phone.
On the PC I use thunderbird to download all emails (got like 6 email accounts) to the pc and delete them from the server immidiately. (I've had accounts beeing hacked in the past because I left password emails etc in my inbox, so I started to delete them from server instead of leaving them on for more security - so I can't just "download them again" from the phone - I will need to sync the phone with the data from the PC. I could switch my email client program off course if thats needed, but I rather not let the messages lay somewhere online.
Can someone maybe explain to me how that would work or give me a link or smth?
It would be perfect if it would work both sides: Either I sync the phone with the PC or the PC with the phone, or a real sync where just the new emails get exchanged. (On the same time I'd also get this to work for my laptop but phone more important now since i got it heh)
I hope someone can help me.
you can't sync with EVERY email client..
it does sync with outlook/OE... I don't know about thunderbird tho. What you CAN try to do is change the settings to never delete emails from your server when downloaded to your computer and then sync so that when you delete them from your phone they'd be deleted from the server.
get my drift?
hmm well im used to thunderbird, but i dont have to keep using it necessarily. I'd change if it makes this whole syncing easier. Its been bugging me for a while that I didnt have my emails on my laptop but now i also need em on the phone.. so I wanna finally get this to work.
The method you described wouldnt work if I somehow download the emails to the phone first instead of the pc, it would work like u described, but if I'd rather work it in both ways, a real "sync".
With outlook you could do this yea?
Try using Gmail or Windows Live mail, its more compatabile with most wireless. Goto m.live.com or Gmail
well, if you use gmail you can easily keep it on both your computer and your phone and it would sync both ways.
Get a gmail account. Then forward all your email accounts to the gmail account. You can also set the gmail account to send out as one of the other accounts.
Setup the gmail account as an imap client in thunderbird or outlook. Create a folder under the inappropriate account named old emails or whatever. Move the emails stored in your local folders to the folder setup under the imap account (you can do it directly to the inbox if you prefer).
Setup gmail on your mobile device.
Say thanks.
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Cleaner Explanation.
1) Create a Gmail account at Gmail.com (or skip this step if you already have one).
2) Log into the web versions of each of your email accounts. Set the account to forward all emails to the new gmail account address (typically these settings are found under the settings or Options menu somewhere on the page). If you would like to continue to use these accounts you can either:
a) Give Gmail permission to send emails as all the accounts or one in particular. (Note once in the mobile apps, you cannot choose different sender addresses, only the default one. You can however change from each address on the web interface).​ b) Set a forwarder and then specify to leave a message on the server.​
3) Setup the gmail account you created as an IMAP account (use IMAP not SMTP) in thunderbird or Outlook.
a) You can find the Imap settings for desktop clients here.​
4) Once the initial sync is complete, simply drag and drop the emails from the old inbox to the Gmail account's inbox (listed in a tree menu under the IMAP.Gmail.Com listing.
5) You can now set up this email address as a SMTP or IMAP (IMAP keeps the emails on the server. This is a better idea in some cases as you have exact copies of emails on all devices you set them up as.
6) Say thanks
You can also manually do this for each email account you have, but that would take much longer and some companies do not allow or simply haven't moved to using IMAP yet (freaky right?).
Using the gmail way, you have all your emails from all your accounts plus the wonders of google. This is the easiest way to do it I can think of.
I hope my explanation is clean and clear.
thanks for the detailed explanation I guess I'll do it that way.
But the downside that you have to keep the mails on the server still stays this way. I'd really love the option to do a real sync how you expect a sync to be but I guess thats complicated or doesnt work?
I mean like.. when I'm at home .. I download the mails from my desktop pc over usb or wlan. Then I download new emails while I'm travelling or smth - and when I get back home I sync my desktop with the phone emails.
This must work somehow? I'd really hate to have to leave my emails on the server since I got bad experience with this.
I guess I'm just beeing paranoid - but I'm also perfectionist heh, so I'd love to try n get it going "the perfect way" - aka a real offline sync without usage of any server storage. (unless you count my desktop as a server..)
If you setup the system to use smtp on the phone it will dowbload the email, other than that i would suggest using a very good password.
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[Q] Android: Saving emails?

I need to find a way to save Emails on an Android phone, no Email client will do that so far as I can find?
My ISP is POP3 ONLY and I'm unwilling to change my email address so don't say use IMAP or Gmail.
I have no problem saving messages on my BB or on a WinMo phone, why can't Android's email client do that? BB has a 'save' option on the email menu which moves the mail to a Saved folder, WinMo allows me to create a Saved folder and move email to it which remains after it's deleted on the server, exactly the same as any email client on a PC so why does Android not allow anything similar?
NOTE: I've set my PC's email client to delete message from the server when they're downloaded, that's not going to change, there has to be a way for the Android device to do that or must I go back to WinMo or BlackBerry because of this one ridiculous failure of the Android OS?
Not sure i'm seeing the problem here. If you want to save your emails just don't delete them?
Same for me. I'd love to be able to make email folders so I can organize the accumulated emails. Having all emails in the inbox just doesn't work and is a pain in the ass.
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I think not possible you can keep them as long as you can
no itry to mush
ruhkh said:
I think not possible
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I believe you're correct, I'm currently back on my BlackBerry as one solution to the problem.
you could try opening a gmail account, sync with your pop3 account and dont tell anyone your new e-mail address
What Robbie said. You can have emails forwarded to your GMail?
Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
eat-this-cake said:
Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
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I have set up k9 and tried the archive but it just took the message of the server, how did you copy it instead?

email deletion problem s8+ and gmail

So I setup my s8+ and setup my Gmail on the native email client. I selected as items arrive because I like having up to date email. When I go to delete a message on the S8+ it deletes, but shows a "deleted" sign and next to it "undo". I have since changed the setting to not ask to confirm, it still does it though. Now when I delete an email on the phone, it comes right back after a few seconds, I tested this with my Gmail opened on the website and it doesn't show deleted, however if I simply read them on the phone or mark them as read, it does correlate with Gmail and marks them as read. Testing the reverse, if I delete a message on Gmail, it does delete it automatically on the phone. What could be the problem? I've tried changing the web settings to auto expunge set to "off" and when a message is marked as deleted from the last IMAP folder move to the trash (used to be archive)
Maybe a bit more condensed. Basically the stock email app (s8+) has deleted emails keep popping back up. I have gmail on there with the "auto, as items arrive" setting. Marking as read does sync however., any ideas? Thank you!
My Gmail app has been doing this for a long time while using a secondary e-mail account within Gmail (My hotmail account).
I've never had a problem deleting Gmail e-mails though.
Just to clarify, this is for your GMAIL account correct?
Yeah, I am using the native Samsung Email client on the Galaxy s8+. When setting up my @gmail.com account., everything comes in quickly, marking as read works fine, the issue is when I delete an email, it comes back as soon as I refresh.
I have the same problem. And I think the reason is that your mail provider has the IMAP roth path folder named "INBOX"
But the samsung mail app has it as "Inbox"
This is why it works with Gmail and not other providers.
It can handle the incoming to place in correct folder. But when you delete it sends a request to the IMAP server to delete mail xxx placed in folder Inbox (Not INBOX)
And because there are no folder called Inbox on the IMAP server, nothing is removed.
Older samsungs/Android had both the option to "erase on server" and set "IMAP Root path folder" but the latest version don't
I have several accounts setup in the gmail app. Only one does this, my exchange email account for work. And it's not new and it's not related to the phone. This has been happening for years on multiple android versions and multiple devices when using the gmail client.
With third-party customers everything is in order and even with native problems did not notice.
"Unfortunately the stock android email app has the IMAP root folder names hard-coded in the app. They cannot be changed by user. The app expects the folders to be named
at the IMAP server exactly like this
Inbox
Outbox
Drafts
Sent
Junk
If IMAP-server uses different names the synchronization will not work properly"
So as I mentioned before. If Imap folder is named Inbox and not INBOX there might be problem. And it cant be fixed in other way than changing to a mail app that allows for manually setting the IMAP root folder name to INBOX
Me, too.
rkennison said:
I have several accounts setup in the gmail app. Only one does this, my exchange email account for work. And it's not new and it's not related to the phone. This has been happening for years on multiple android versions and multiple devices when using the gmail client.
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On my S8 phone I have 3 accounts (Gmail and TELUS) plus my Exchange account for work - and that's the only one that has this problem (Junk Folders messages reappear). Thank you for your post. Don't HAVE to have my work account on my phone so will remove it and hope that resolves this pesky issue.

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