is it possible that the entire windows phone cummunity could work together in making some sort of "Jailbreak App store" where all the homebrew apps could be in one place and would make it alot easier for the all of us?
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is it possible that the entire windows phone cummunity could work together in making some sort of "Jailbreak App store" where all the homebrew apps could be in one place and would make it alot easier for the all of us?
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I would like to see this too, if it's at all possible. Also, have the apps only show up on platforms they officially support, Samsung/LG/HTC/Etc.
I need this too..
It would be awsome =)
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I can get behind this. Anybody want to get a bounty going ?
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I like the idea
Not sure how well an app store that fills up with hacked apps would work... (hacked being paid apps stolen and hacked to be side loaded)Wouldn't be promoted on here at least I wouldn't think. Now of it was just free apps, that might work but why wouldn't they just submit it to the actual app store.
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That's cool but at this moment there's no usable/reliable jailbreak to begin with, and next to zero deep tweaking options.
Such an app would be violating xda forum rules
Read the OP.
He is looking for a place for Homebrew apps only, not pirated.
Something like Cydia I guess.
And the question of why not post them in the Marketplace is kind of silly, the answer is obvious: because they are Homebrew and probably going to take advantage of the phone hardware or OS in a way that Microsoft would not allow in the Marketplace.
I think it's a great idea.
This is a GREAT idea.
Not all developers want to pay USD99, go thru such a painful process that verified by GeoTrust (which I don't trust them ) or for the developers in the region where the marketplace is not supported to submit their homebrew apps.
Of course, to archive it; the first priority is, our phone MUST be unlock, which it is "possible" for those who came from 1st Generation of WP.
The new comer with their handset pre-install with Mango, I believe still have some long way to go before it get the unlock. Unless the promised Cheveron UnLock is available and No limit for side loading apps.
Lastly, I truly which to see such an alternative marketplace is soon be in service!
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I would like to see this too, if it's at all possible. Also, have the apps only show up on platforms they officially support, Samsung/LG/HTC/Etc.
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Thanks I really want this to happen i want to do anything in my ability to help
karan1203 said:
I can get behind this. Anybody want to get a bounty going ?
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yes please, I would love to get a bounty going for this.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Not sure how well an app store that fills up with hacked apps would work... (hacked being paid apps stolen and hacked to be side loaded)Wouldn't be promoted on here at least I wouldn't think. Now of it was just free apps, that might work but why wouldn't they just submit it to the actual app store.
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You know how there is cydia and all ios users need is to upload cydia on their device and they have access to all the homebrew apps. I like the wp alot nore then ios and i dont think that all of these homebrew apps could get accepted to the marketplace when some of them could change things that microsoft doesnt want touched.
dasbin said:
Read the OP.
He is looking for a place for Homebrew apps only, not pirated.
Something like Cydia I guess.
And the question of why not post them in the Marketplace is kind of silly, the answer is obvious: because they are Homebrew and probably going to take advantage of the phone hardware or OS in a way that Microsoft would not allow in the Marketplace.
I think it's a great idea.
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Thank you for explaining what i meant to that otehr person. The thing is some homebrew apps would be something that microsoft wouldnt want touched and i think this makes alot of senese IMO.
shawchyn said:
This is a GREAT idea.
Not all developers want to pay USD99, go thru such a painful process that verified by GeoTrust (which I don't trust them ) or for the developers in the region where the marketplace is not supported to submit their homebrew apps.
Of course, to archive it; the first priority is, our phone MUST be unlock, which it is "possible" for those who came from 1st Generation of WP.
The new comer with their handset pre-install with Mango, I believe still have some long way to go before it get the unlock. Unless the promised Cheveron UnLock is available and No limit for side loading apps.
Lastly, I truly which to see such an alternative marketplace is soon be in service!
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You looked at my idea in a way that even i didn't look at. Since all the wp have the unlock button and volume button on the side of everyphone we could use this to our advantage in comin up with a way unlock mango users. I am not a developer but i want to learn more about this stuff.
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You looked at my idea in a way that even i didn't look at. Since all the wp have the unlock button and volume button on the side of everyphone we could use this to our advantage in comin up with a way unlock mango users. I am not a developer but i want to learn more about this stuff.
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Ya... you are absolutely right! Our phone all have the volume button and the unlock button, we just need to wait for the right guy to come out the rite apps.
That's 1 more thing even GREAT is... our phone have a "CAMERA" button, we can use it while we are waiting.
PM me if in anyway I can help up in setting/planning for this alternative marketplace.
This was being worked on, was it not?
But it was in the form of a PC application. I cant find the thread.. somebody help me out here
I think we could use DFT's method of on-device XAP deploying and use that as a start point, together with the Repo's that this application used?
We're further along than you think!
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This was being worked on, was it not?
But it was in the form of a PC application. I cant find the thread.. somebody help me out here
I think we could use DFT's method of on-device XAP deploying and use that as a start point, together with the Repo's that this application used?
We're further along than you think!
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that is a good thing but lets get it on a phone because i think it would be easier to find apps on phone when you are on the go.
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Ya... you are absolutely right! Our phone all have the volume button and the unlock button, we just need to wait for the right guy to come out the rite apps.
That's 1 more thing even GREAT is... our phone have a "CAMERA" button, we can use it while we are waiting.
PM me if in anyway I can help up in setting/planning for this alternative marketplace.
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Do you want to take this to the development and hacking forum and see what they think?
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I checked the first 3 pages of the forums and didn't see this posted.
Here are some upcoming home replacements for Android. One name that should be familiar to us old WinMo users and a "newcomer."
http://www.tat.se/home/
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pre...gs-support-for-symbian-and-android-along.html
they both look pretty cool but I think tathome looks like it might be a little more to my liking.
SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.
+1 for TAT home it looks like it could be NICE I checked out the video (good music and all ;-)) here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/tat-home-the-gesture-powered-3d-home-screen-your-android-device/
I used SPB Mobile Shell 3.x with my Touch Pro and I wasn't too impressed.
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Here is a video of Mobile Shell http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-video-spb-mobile-shell-50-on-android IMO Mobile Shell is suffering from what it always has LAG!!!!! Even on the N1 it looked slow, maybe because it's BETA.
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SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.
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I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.
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I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.
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i signed up, thanks. good find.
I signed up as well hope I get to test.
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I signed up as well hope I get to test.
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same here... looks like something to test at least...
Looks cool! I signed up for the TAT preview.
Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.
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Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.
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cant imagine that it would slow it down anymore than sense but time will tell
muahaha, smooth as an iph*ne, and yet still kicking the pants off of it in terms of functionality = complete win for Android.
See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?
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See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?
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+1 on this but at the same time this is why some dont want to develop for android
Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.
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Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.
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Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents
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Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents
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that is correct. when swype was first leaked I was actually talking to them about the bennifits of releasing it through the market instead of through manufacturers and one of the biggest concerns that was brought up was the fact that security for apps is too lax. now dont get me wrong everyone knows that for every security mesure there is always a way around it but android security just sucks thats why for the most part people afften have a free version and a donate version. if people can try it and like it then they are more likely to buy it rather than just pirate it. setcpu is a perfect example of this. sure the dev could have made it a protected app (but being a member here at xda he probably knew it was pointless) but he offers it free here and then if you like you can buy from the market to donate to help keep him developing.
so basically all im saying is...ok we all (me included) have pirated apps but if you like the app make sure to go buy it from the market and help keep these people developing for us.
I know I went off on a rant there but without intrest in app development this great platform will fail.
I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.
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I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.
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same here the only thing I am using pirated right now is swype but thats only becuase there is no way to buy it. but thats also because im a cheap ass and maily use free apps unless I really find something useful but to date the only things that I have bought are setcpu and beautiful widgets. im trying cachemate now but it really doesnt seem to be very helpful. I wish I knew a little more about programing there is an app for the iphone that I would love to have on my hero.
i played around with "pandahome" some yesterday. it seems beta right now but they are apparently coming out with pandahome2 soon. it's a good idea, just not quite finished yet. (fc's and whatnot)
anyway you might go check it out (if your feeling froggy).
lots of options and skins ect.ect.ect.
marketplace. free.
I would love to see someone with the new T-Mobile Garminfone pull out the apk and see if we can use it in our Incredibles. I would just love to see how it would work on a real powerhouse of a phone ;-)
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Hmmm, bad idea -1
madman34 said:
I would love to see someone with the new T-Mobile Garminfone pull out the apk and see if we can use it in our Incredibles. I would just love to see how it would work on a real powerhouse of a phone ;-)
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Watch out! I did a google search and I found another thread on xda...
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost . php?p=7636980&postcount=5
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This post shall serve as the first and only warning regarding the Garmin application and maps. Anybody who shares them or asks for them to be shared will be banned.
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I guess this is bad behavior.
New user so I can link
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Watch out! I did a google search and I found another thread on xda...
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost . php?p=7636980&postcount=5
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I guess this is bad behavior.
New user so I can link
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Thanks for sharing =)
So anything you rip off another phone is illegal, how come we do it with alot of stuff on here... then again what do i care /ripriprip
The problem with this is that it's the map data mostly. When I was on Windows Mobile, we had the same problem with Microsoft Voice Command. Even though it came with most WM phones, you weren't aloud to share the .cab (equivalent to .apk) file for it. In fact, cooking roms with it was kinda frowned upon. The problem was the licensing, because Microsoft actually charged for the app, for the few phones that came without it (the manufacturer had the option to use it, I'm guessing they decided to just pay for it to have it come loaded). Even when TomTom came out with a "trial" for one specific WM phone, the cracked program wasn't allowed on XDA, even though cracking it just made it possible to use it on other phones...... You still had to buy the maps from TomTom for the phone..... It's all just a CYOA policy, and it's what makes sure XDA won't be shut down!
So I guess the question is: if I am able to find the.apk, would it work on my inc. Has there been any success stories?
It would certainly be interesting to find out. I remember someone in the past had made a GPS Phone based off Windows Mobile. I can't remember who offhand, but I'd think it would be more profitable for them to release the software for a reasonable price than to offer it only on their phone, which who knows how much they're really making off it. I mean it comes down to profit, but I'd think that considering my DInc came with built in Nav for free, and is a much better phone, why pay a premium for a phone with GPS, when you can get a better *phone* and add GPS software for a minimal cost (or use the FREE one included!). Just my thoughts though.....
I have one question. If i found aplication that is not free on market but posted online like .apk and I download to pc. After that transfer to my phone via usb then install on it, am i going to be chargred for that app or there is no way that anyone can charge me or know that i have one? Thanks.
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No, you will not be charged for it.
I should remind you that this is piracy, which is not encouraged.
arrrg shiver me timbers
only downside also to taking a apk on a torrent or whateve u will rarely get updates...more likely none
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Thanks for answers, everything seems to be ok and resonable
Btw any good app for VPN (cisco) does not meter if has to be paid as long that work propertly?
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i am not condoning piracy, but yes it is possible to just download an app from the web. appbrain does a good (but accidental) job of telling you when they need updates. you will need to find another version online though to manually update.
applanet is baisically all this but inside a single app. it is a pirated android market. once again, i dont encourage piracy, niether do i use it.
erik077 said:
I have one question. If i found aplication that is not free on market but posted online like .apk and I download to pc. After that transfer to my phone via usb then install on it, am i going to be chargred for that app or there is no way that anyone can charge me or know that i have one? Thanks.
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As someone who develops Android apps - please just go pay for it. We put a lot of effort into making these things and it's only a few dollars. The dollar you just saved was food you just took off someones table.
That said, any Android developer worth his salt should have already implemented the Market License feature. The new license model can remotely validate that your copy is legit and allows the developer to respond how they choose.
In my apps, I lock you out and show a nag screen with a market link... but I know some devs who just quietly phone home with your device ID and phone number.
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As someone who develops Android apps - please just go pay for it. We put a lot of effort into making these things and it's only a few dollars. The dollar you just saved was food you just took off someones table.
That said, any Android developer worth his salt should have already implemented the Market License feature. The new license model can remotely validate that your copy is legit and allows the developer to respond how they choose.
In my apps, I lock you out and show a nag screen with a market link... but I know some devs who just quietly phone home with your device ID and phone number.
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creepy....
like i said, pirating isnt the way to go. just because i told you how doesnt mean i want you to.
That was basic questions and i do support you guys so please do not accuse me of anything right away, but no one answered question above.
erik077 said:
Btw any good app for VPN (cisco) does not meter if has to be paid as long that work propertly?
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Hey there anyone has any estimates on when the s-off, root and etc for general public will be out, not sure about how many bugs/glitches does the dev. version have...
Regards, SM
It's been stable and working. They may as well not call this a dev release.
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No issues
I think the disclaimer for the dev only thing was probably a safe guard to make sure the repercussions weren't severe if things didn't pan out! However everything works great for me... I just reflashed my stock RUU after and re-rooted and put on CWM and now my phone is slick and debloated! I donated because as far as I am concerned they can't improve upon perfect!
the reason why i asked is becasue this is my first time i ever dealt with HTC "rooting" wanted to make sure i dont run into much issues during the process, any pointers? besides the guide?
I still can't post questions on the dev thread since im fairly new....
Simplicity is the key
Just don't get worried that is all! Make sure you feel comfortable with the procedure prior to attempting it, but rest assured this is quite possibly the easiest S-Off/Root procedure around... no goldcard, no nothing! It literally does everything for you! So just stick to the guide, don't deviate, and never panic and jerk the cord from your phone! Then again I don't really think you can brick, but if I understand correctly S-Off is in the Radio and quite simply put if the Radio gets messed up the phone gets messed up!
Again if the phone seems fine to you, then you may not want to do it right now... the ROMs are just starting to come out of the kitchens and are young right now so holding off might be advisable or at least until you feel comfortable to play around with your phone!
I appreciate the tips glitzbd, when it comes to "rooting" as in iphone would that be considered jailbreaking ? And how does it interact with applications, allows you to rip apps for free?
SirMario87 said:
I appreciate the tips glitzbd, when it comes to "rooting" as in iphone would that be considered jailbreaking ? And how does it interact with applications, allows you to rip apps for free?
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It doesn't allow you to get free app's but along with s-off, gives you pretty much total control over the phone and allows app's that are made specifically for rooted devices to run on the phone, i.e. Titanium backup and also to flash custom rom's.
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It doesn't allow you to get free app's but along with s-off, gives you pretty much total control over the phone and allows app's that are made specifically for rooted devices to run on the phone, i.e. Titanium backup and also to flash custom rom's.
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I see, thanx alot, out of curiosity, are the HTCs able to be hacked where you would be able to download apps that are not free, for free.
(my fist HTC device)
SirMario87 said:
I see, thanx alot, out of curiosity, are the HTCs able to be hacked where you would be able to download apps that are not free, for free.
(my fist HTC device)
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Not that I know of and I wouldn't ask too much about how to do it or where to get them from on here as the moderator's are pretty strict about it.
There are websites that provide them if you have a google though.
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Not that I know of and I wouldn't ask too much about how to do it or where to get them from on here as the moderator's are pretty strict about it.
There are websites that provide them if you have a google though.
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I see i must have mistaken this forum as a more hack oriented forum....
SirMario87 said:
I see i must have mistaken this forum as a more hack oriented forum....
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LOL stealing paid apps = bad and majority of the websites that offer paid apps for free also offer identity theft,spam and trojans for your device to enjoy....BUY THE APPS man!!!!!!!!! not many things in life are FREE
SirMario87 said:
I see i must have mistaken this forum as a more hack oriented forum....
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It is for hacking / developing, but not for hacking paid app's / warez.
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It is for hacking / developing, but not for hacking paid app's / warez.
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You can tell im a long time Warez member Warez FTW!!!
But i appreciate the heads up fellas thanks!
Which one i should donate fund to!!
Please don't tell me both!
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WebOS is EOL if you read the news, unless they can licence it out. Lots of questions if that will become a success story.
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mercurycn said:
Which one i should donate fund to!!
Please don't tell me both!
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WebOS is the one that needs help, but feel free to donate whoever you want.
Android would unlock the real potential of this device and will continue to evolve where webos is dead.
I like my Iconia tab for the most part (except for the fact the keyboard is running slow and not showing up very quickly as I am typing this). I want to see how well the webos really backs up your apps. The rom manager that supposedly comes with it is suppose to let you change roms without having to wipe the tab. The main thing I want to check out is webos doctor. It is suppose to be able to bring back an unresponsive tab and restore it to the last save point some how. I have tried to find more info on this, but it has been a challenge trying to use an internet search for something with the same name as the mouse on a laptop.
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Android would unlock the real potential of this device and will continue to evolve where webos is dead.
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WebOS already has the potential, even more than Android, Android only owns all the APP that WebOS, I bet you never used a WebOS device.