1 contact but two conversations? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I have a contact (Facebook + Windows Live) and I have merged the two accounts (facebook + Windows Live).
Now it appears that after the Mango Update the conversation with this person is in two different conversations. Basically in the messaging app the contact appears twice. One seems to be the old (pre-Mango SMS communication) while the other one seems to only contain new message (a missed call alert + facebook chat).
Is there anyway to merge the two conversations together?
I have a developer unlocked phone.

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Facebook / Messages (SMS) (WP7.5 8107 Omnia W)

Hi all!
I just moved from Android (HD2 MIUI) to WP7.5 (Omnia W i8350 fw: 8107 locked) and I noticed a couple of things:
- SMS and Facebook chat are merged, without any timeline order. I'll try to explain (I'm Italian, I'm sorry if I'll spell anything wrong):
SMS sent from my gf at 11.00 AM, received at 11.00:03 AM on my device
Facebook Chat message sent from my girlfriend at 10.30 AM, wifi/data enabled on my device at 11.30 AM, Facebook Chat message received at 11.30 AM.
In my message hub the last interaction with my gf that I'll see will be her FB Chat Message (and my reply will pass through FB by default, instead of SMS).
Isn't that strange?
- There's, in the marketplace, an official FB App, that has at least half an hour delay between any notify and doesn't notify any private message to me.
Is the any alternative that could work better?
Trust me, moving from an HD2 that has been able to run WM6.5, WP7.5, Android easily to a locked WP7 device is quite confusing, but I'll try hard to make it work at his best.
DaemonMX said:
Hi all!
SMS sent from my gf at 11.00 AM, received at 11.00:03 AM on my device
Facebook Chat message sent from my girlfriend at 10.30 AM, wifi/data enabled on my device at 11.30 AM, Facebook Chat message received at 11.30 AM.
In my message hub the last interaction with my gf that I'll see will be her FB Chat Message (and my reply will pass through FB by default, instead of SMS).
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Windows Phone will always use the message service that was last used. Since you only enabled data conenction at 11:30 am this was the last message your phone received and it assumes you want to use this protocol/service. You can manually change the protocol/service using the double arrow icon in the lower right.
EDIT: The built in facebook messenger works fine for me. There are only a few (5-10) seconds delay until I receive my facebook messages, no need for me to ever use the facebook app...
Localhorst86 said:
Windows Phone will always use the message service that was last used. Since you only enabled data conenction at 11:30 am this was the last message your phone received and it assumes you want to use this protocol/service. You can manually change the protocol/service using the double arrow icon in the lower right.
EDIT: The built in facebook messenger works fine for me. There are only a few (5-10) seconds delay until I receive my facebook messages, no need for me to ever use the facebook app...
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Yup, I could understand "why" the system uses the last service used as long as I'm or I'm not using data/wifi, but it's chronologically wrong.
I'm expecting to see the FB message before the last SMS, just because it has been sent before by the other user. (It's just a matter of timeline) If WP7 is able to merge every conversation between sms/facebook it would be fine to get each message in the right time order, isn't it? What if I don't turn on data/wifi for a week, I'd get FB messages one week old as "last" interaction with the other person, even if I wrote him/her by SMS just a minute before?
Of course I'm not expandind the issue to the fact that I've already read on FB that message, and it could be in any way notified as "already seen" on my phone. Leaving SMS / Facebook services in different apps, just like Whatsapp, Hotmail, Gmail, etc. is certainly less "integrated, nice, next gen, artistic, or what else", but more efficient in their real use: to comunicate.
P.S. The delay is really lower on the built in messenger, the app seems to have some different default settings.
DaemonMX said:
I'm expecting to see the FB message before the last SMS, just because it has been sent before by the other user.
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WP7 doesn't know when it was sent, though. It only knows when it was delivered to the phone.
DaemonMX said:
Leaving SMS / Facebook services in different apps, just like Whatsapp, Hotmail, Gmail, etc. is certainly less "integrated, nice, next gen, artistic, or what else", but more efficient in their real use: to comunicate.
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I disagree with that, the unified messaging hub is great because I can instantly see all communication with that user independant from the service used. If you still prefer to have non unified messages, you can do that. To quote the famous apple qoute: "there's an app for that!".
Apps like IM+ (search for "implus" on the market), Nimbuzz allow you to connect to Facebook and Windows Live Messenger (among others).
Miyowa allows you to connect to Windos Live Messenger and for Facebook only I found an app called "Fim Chat"
Knock yourself out
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DaemonMX said:
Of course I'm not expandind the issue to the fact that I've already read on FB that message, and it could be in any way notified as "already seen" on my phone.
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This would not be feasible or practical in my oppinion. For one, this would require Facebook to somehow notify the client (phone) that a message has been read and to force the client to delete it. This is not how IM clients work. I think it would be a bad move if a service could "recall" or "delete" already delivered messages. If you're going to read your FB messages using a different client anyways, why stay signed in using the built in client?

"Hangouts" conversations for SMS and Hangout messages

So I'm not sure if this is normal, but in my Hangouts app I have two separate conversations for each contact: one for SMS and the other for hangout messages.
Originally I had two different contacts in my contact list, but when I inputted both the email and the phone number it merged them into one. Now when I'm in a hangout conversation and I click on the person's name it gives me the option to hangout message them or SMS. When I choose SMS it automatically switches to a new SMS convo.
I have linked my Google+ contacts with my phone contacts. Is this the case for everyone? Thanks
Yes.
Yep. This is normal. I was expecting an iMessage type interface as well.
There's been a lot of press about this and I wouldn't be surprised to see this changed in a new version.
Okay thanks guy. It seems a bit odd but I can live with it!

[Q] add avatar to google sms

Hello, frequently I recieved sms from certain companies (google calendar notifications, my home banking, my football club, etc) and these sms came already with name of the sender and they are not in my contact list.
How can I add an image to these contacts?!
I've manually add Google as an contact and put the Google's logo but the avatar doesn't appear in the hangouts.
dinistic said:
Hello, frequently I recieved sms from certain companies (google calendar notifications, my home banking, my football club, etc) and these sms came already with name of the sender and they are not in my contact list.
How can I add an image to these contacts?!
I've manually add Google as an contact and put the Google's logo but the avatar doesn't appear in the hangouts.
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the messages you are getting are different sms... not like others i guess... like we get for promotional ads... they automatically have name in them.. and you can't see there no so you can't save them... and i guess you just can't apply picture to them..
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The way I did it it, for example Google Calendar, added Google Calendar to contacts in gmail using +148368 as the mobile phone number and then changed the photo to one of a calendar (or whatever). Then I followed Google Calendar on G+, I also on the Google Calendar G+ page added that same number (+148368) not sure if you need to do the last step or even if you have to follow on G+ but there was a delay on it changing on hangout so I'm not quite sure if you have to follow. Sometime adding the +1 to the phone number is what works, and sometimes you just need to use the short code, for example US Bank uses a short code of 872265 and I didn't need to add the +1 for that. So for example Twitter, you need to use +140404 and if you already follow Twitter on G+ the avatar will also show up in gmail contacts. The whole think is convoluted but it finally is working for me except Google Voice sent sms.

CalCall Appointment Scheduler and Caller ID

Hi guys this is my first post. I developed this app and this is my first app. I being Civil Engineer require to take appointment and get the caller info on the screen while call by searching though appointments.
Concept is explained below:-
This app basically uses the GOOGLE CALENDAR as the Source of Information to display the Name of the caller on call screen during call. So please install Google Calendar from the Store.
This is the easiest way to create appointment after call and get the reminder during the call for the same.
Who uses CalCall? Anyone whose business depends on an appointment calendar. With CalCall, appointment scheduling is easy, replace your paper appointment book today and let the app send appointment reminders, so your clients will never miss a booking again!
Concept :-
In Business we receive lots of calls but we can't store all those numbers in our contact, as most of the times we only receive the calls of clients/others which are temporary. Storing the number in our contact may clutter the contact book making it difficult to maintain.
Also if we have multiple devices, storing the contact on one device won't display the Caller ID on the other device. Synchronizing contact can be sometimes difficult. This will create the same problem of cluttered Address Book.
We normally store our appointments in the Calendar along with the number of client. Why not search the same during call. This is our solution to the problem.
This basically uses
1) Calendar as your secondary contact book.
2) Calendars can be synchronized, hence essentially making the synchronized secondary contact book.
3) This app can display additional information stored in the calendar along the contact.
4) Quick add the contact to calendar after the call from notification.
5) Quick open the contact after the call from notification.
Just store the information of the client in the Title of Calendar along with his number in the Description field. And same will be displayed during the call on screen.
Steps to get the app working
1) While creating the appointment in phone calendar store the phone number in description field.
2) the phone number will be read by the app during the incoming call, if it matches the incoming number then a popup will be shown during the call.
3) choose the fields to display during the call from the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.developer.himanshu&hl=en

SMS app to combine conversations from the same contact in the same chat window

Hy there,
I hope I posted where I should and if I didn't please tell me the correct section where I should do this. Also, I am not a developer, I do not have root on my phone. I do not want solutions that require changing XML files or anything. I am just asking about an app that I could find in the Play Store, or, maybe, and apk to download (this being the second option)
I have a problem with the messaging app since I left my HTC One S for the Nexus 5X in June 2016 and I did not find an app to replace that, not even on my current Oneplus 5T.
So, I have a contact in my phonebook saved with multiple numbers - work / mobile / home etc. and she texts SMS from either of the numbers (doesn't really matter because they are included in the carrier plan as unlimited). But my messaging app is sorting those SMS as different entries by phone number, and not by contact. So if we start a conversation in a chat window based on the home number, the answer may end up in a different chat windows (she has a dual sim phone so it depends on the settings on which is right now, and because the SMSs are "free", she tends to not look at which carrier is using, because, why would you if they are all free?), but this actually disrupts the logical flow of the conversation.
I know that a such app exists because I used it on HTC One S in 2012 and I was able to send SMS to which number I wanted to select (home / mobile / work of the same contact from the phonebook) and I had all the conversation in only one place, but after I changed on Nexus 5X and now on OnePlus 5T I can not find this feature in the installed app messenger (Google's or Oneplus's), neither on Google searches or specialized websites. I have tested some of the SMS apps, looked for settings, but all of them seem to show the SMSs based on the phone number, and not based on the contact entries.
Can someone suggest an app that could do that? Maybe I didn't search good enough.
P.S. The MMS option to send grouped messages is not an option because this means I will send the same SMS to multiple numbers, but those numbers are of the same person so there is no need to do that ...
Thank you very much for Your answer.

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