"Hangouts" conversations for SMS and Hangout messages - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm not sure if this is normal, but in my Hangouts app I have two separate conversations for each contact: one for SMS and the other for hangout messages.
Originally I had two different contacts in my contact list, but when I inputted both the email and the phone number it merged them into one. Now when I'm in a hangout conversation and I click on the person's name it gives me the option to hangout message them or SMS. When I choose SMS it automatically switches to a new SMS convo.
I have linked my Google+ contacts with my phone contacts. Is this the case for everyone? Thanks

Yes.

Yep. This is normal. I was expecting an iMessage type interface as well.
There's been a lot of press about this and I wouldn't be surprised to see this changed in a new version.

Okay thanks guy. It seems a bit odd but I can live with it!

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Sending SMS to a group

Is there a SW available on the XDA II that allows me to send a SMS msg to a group? I used to be available to do it on my ipaq using simple SMS.
I select category say "personal" from my contacts and viola, the msg will be sent.
AFAIK you can either select multiple recipients from you contacts list or you could set up a contact named "my-group" or so and put all the phone numbers in the mobile field, seperated by semicolons. It works here, but I have not yet tried more than a dozen at once.
Martin
martin kopplow said:
AFAIK you can either select multiple recipients from you contacts list or you could set up a contact named "my-group" or so and put all the phone numbers in the mobile field, seperated by semicolons. It works here, but I have not yet tried more than a dozen at once.
Martin
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How did you do it Martin? I created a new contact and put multiple of mobile phone numbers saparated by semicolons, but the semicolons don't appear on the SMS program. In other words, the SMS program removes all semicolons and appends all the numbers.
tried this, but when i send a message I get the error:
"You cannot send this message as both an SMS and an e-mail message. Please remove either the SMS or the e-mail address and send again"
Needless to say, I created a new contact with two telephone numbers in the mobile phone section seperated with one ;
Ashby
group sms
hi guys
i tried to do this as well but it didnt work i had a nokia comunicator and i was able to do this with no problems.
regards kevin b :lol:
Thanks guys for the replies. I guess I have to live with sending SMS messages manually
It is really strange that an expensive pda+phone with a powerful operating system doesn't have this simple functionality.
I might sound strange, but this function is very important to me coz I send an average of 8 SMS messages to a group of people on daily basis.
I miss my T610
gropu sms
i agree kufi these phones arent cheap.
when i do into my sms box and say new i can add more contacts and seperate them with ; without any problem
havent tried sending it though so i'm not sure if it would fail but i can add more then one contact thats for sure
Yes this is how I do it too; the manual way which is time consuming and annoying. The optimal way is to assign a group of contacts under one name, but as you can see, it is not possible.
Hoping an application will be avaialable soon, coz this is driving me crazy.
group sms
I got this software, I think it works great. you have to first creat a group list, when saving the number, you have to save it in the group. I don't have any link for it, but its group sms ver1.1 by shailesh ashar, google it, or find the cab laying around here. hope it helped.
http://www.shubaroo.com/index.php?module=group_sms
Did you search?
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...p+sms&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
^ search for "group sms", see first hit
please help me....
i am using O2 XDA Flame model, i need to know if there is any application for forwarding sms from inbox to group contacts by selecting the group name. i have used software for sending new sms to group contacts but have not seen any application helping to forward inbox sms to group contacts... hope i have clearly mentioned my query.
thank you.
If you are sending the same group of people text messages I send the message in the normal way - this requires you adding each of the recipients one at a time.
When you are finished and you send the mail - go back into your messages and select the 'sent' option form the drop down. You can now highlight the recipients and use the 'copy' option.
Then, go to the 'NOTES' section of your XDA and paste in the list and save it using whatever title you want.
Every time you want to send a message to these recipients, open your 'NOTES' and copy/paste the list into your message - it is not perfect...but it does work and does save time.
I have only just joined the forum. Anyone still having problems sending texts to multiple contacts on you htc tp2 try this I think it may help you.
Create a new contact any name and type the contacts numbers in as laid out below.
12345678999>; <12345678999>; <12345678999>; and so on. You need six spaces between each number, no left side arrow in front of the first number as the phone puts that in by default and no right side arrow after the last number. I have tried it with upto ten numbers no probs it might work with more.
Also if if one of the contacts in your group sent you the original message you wont wanna send it back to him so if you hit menu then hit check names hey presto it will put all the contact names in relevant to the numbers, touch on the one you want to delete and then hit your back space key and its gone. Good luck.
chk out my signature for group sms app that I made

[App Request] Google Voice Widget

As a Google voice user it sucks not being able to use those widgets that allow you to see your SMS messages on the home screen or apps like SMS Popup. Now since Google Voice has push messages it would be cool to see some widgets and apps that take advantage of it. Getting to the point now, can anybody make a widget that shows your incoming Google Voice messages?
iVisionX01 said:
As a Google voice user it sucks not being able to use those widgets that allow you to see your SMS messages on the home screen or apps like SMS Popup. Now since Google Voice has push messages it would be cool to see some widgets and apps that take advantage of it. Getting to the point now, can anybody make a widget that shows your incoming Google Voice messages?
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Are you saying you don't like the current form of notification that just shows an indicator in the tray at the top? Just curious.
No I just hate not being able to use those widgets that show your sms messages.
Sort of like the SMS widget on Sense?
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No I just hate not being able to use those widgets that show your sms messages.
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Lots of work-arounds but I'm with you. Wish there was a widget or popup.
You could go into your GV Settings and have your SMS forwarded to your phone, which would put them in your SMS widgets and popups. However, that defeats the purpose of having free SMS with Google Voice, which is why I stopped forwarding the messages to my phone when the new Push version of the app came out.
You could also go into GV Settings and have SMS forwarded to your gmail address, and then the texts would show up in any Gmail widget, such as Pure Messaging Widget. You can reply to the SMS via email.
agriff said:
Lots of work-arounds but I'm with you. Wish there was a widget or popup.
You could go into your GV Settings and have your SMS forwarded to your phone, which would put them in your SMS widgets and popups. However, that defeats the purpose of having free SMS with Google Voice, which is why I stopped forwarding the messages to my phone when the new Push version of the app came out.
You could also go into GV Settings and have SMS forwarded to your gmail address, and then the texts would show up in any Gmail widget, such as Pure Messaging Widget. You can reply to the SMS via email.
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That is a good idea but I've found that forwarding SMS messages to GMail to not be that reliable. Inbox Syncronizaiton usually gets me my message on time.
i would like to see the fancy little chat bubbles in gvoice sms
superficial, i know lol
however, the notification bar only says "google voice, 1 unread message" not a brief summary of the message which would be cool
This is why I bounce between using the GV app and fwd mt texts. I'd love an SMS notify widget for google voice. Im sure the dev could add th4e option to use it with GV.

[Q] cant change default sms app to google voice or others

when I try to set Google voice as my default SMS the only option I have is hangouts. I downloaded chomp and handcent just to test it and handcent shows as an option, but not chomp or Google voice. stock rooted, any ideas?
kellybrf said:
when I try to set Google voice as my default SMS the only option I have is hangouts. I downloaded chomp and handcent just to test it and handcent shows as an option, but not chomp or Google voice. stock rooted, any ideas?
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8SMS from the Play Store works.
It will work. But I just don't like the gv app for reading sms because of the way they are grouped. If you like it, great...u won't have to worry about sync issues from gv to a default app.
In GV settings, select to receive SMS "via google voice" instead of the messaging app. And set up notifications with in gv.
In this case I don't think GV will forward messages to the system default app. If it does, you will get double notifications. If that happens turn off all notifications in hangouts and/or sign out maybe.
I've been using Textra as my SMS app.
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The developer of the app has to update the app to 4.4 comparability to add that feature. I am using Textra and I really like it.
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Yes, apps need to be updated for SMS because Google changed the way how it works. Only one app can receive and send SMS, before any app can.
I just started using textra instead of hangouts because I want quick reply lol
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akenis said:
It will work. But I just don't like the gv app for reading sms because of the way they are grouped. If you like it, great...u won't have to worry about sync issues from gv to a default app.
In GV settings, select to receive SMS "via google voice" instead of the messaging app. And set up notifications with in gv.
In this case I don't think GV will forward messages to the system default app. If it does, you will get double notifications. If that happens turn off all notifications in hangouts and/or sign out maybe.
I've been using Textra as my SMS app.
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thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
expertzero1 said:
Yes, apps need to be updated for SMS because Google changed the way how it works. Only one app can receive and send SMS, before any app can.
I just started using textra instead of hangouts because I want quick reply lol
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well damn, knowing Google the all well never be updated
kellybrf said:
thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
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kellybrf said:
thanks, I have those set and I get notifications just fine but when I send a text from the dialer it goes through hangouts. the gv app does suck, but it allows me to use two phones with my one number
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Well make up your mind! Before you said you wanted to use GV as your messaging app. Hence my advice before to pretty much ignore whatever you choose as default SMS app and just send/receive your text from within the GV app (Having selected "receive messages through GV app).
Now you're saying that you are trying to send messages from the default SMS app (hangouts). So what you are really saying is that you want to use a default SMS app (hangouts, or textra) and have the text go out your through your GV number? This is totally possible and what I am doing. Bear with me...
We have to understand the GV is NOT really SMS. It just intercepts SMS messages sent to your GV number and sends them to the GV app. These messages are coming to you phone through data, not the radio. Think of GV app operating in two different modes:
1) GV app can operate independently from your devices SMS (select "Via the GV app). You can send and receive messages from the GV app and they will use your GV number. None of these messages will be "forwarded" to the system app. In this scenario, you can also use the system app separately. Messages sent and received from the system default app wil not appear in the GV app, and will use your REAL phone number.
2) GV app can be used to relay these pseud SMS messages coming across your data to the default system app (select "via the messaging app"). In this case, messages sent to your GV number will appear in the GV app, and then be forwarded to the system app and use it's notification settings. Now this gets a little weird, but when this forwarding happens, the message received in the system app appears to come from an unknown phone number in some random area code. Not sure why... has something to do with the whole forwarding process. Luckily, if the real incomming number is in you contacts, then GV appends the contact name to the message. Now if you reply from within the GV app, it goes right back to the sender (no copy of your reply will appear in the system app, because you replied from within GV). If you reply from the system app, and that pseudo phone number... then it will forward back to the GV app (a copy will be there), translate back to the real phone number and send out the reply. And it will be from your GV number. The key is using that pseudo number that translates to the contacts real number. If YOU initiate a message from within the native app, then it just sends a regular SMS using your phones number, NOT your GV number (incidently, this is the only way to send MMS as of now, so you just have to tell the recepient to use the real phone number for pics). When I first figured this out, I used to just make sure that I always initiated the conversation from the GV app. The last neat trick is to save that pseudo number to the existing contact as either a pager (who uses those?) or a custom "pseudo GV" number. No you can initate the conversation from within the system app, and slect the pseudo number.... it will route to GV and appear to come from your GV number. If you use their real mobile number, it will appear to come from your actual phone number.
Clear as mud? Supposedly there are some changes coming to the way GV works. Lets hope they get this stuff a little more user friendly and allow SMS. Actually, I wouldn't mind just using the GV app if it didn't make multiple threads per contact. Good luck...
no, I want Google voice to be my one and only SMS app. on 4.3 and below, when I initiated a text from anywhere outside a messaging app it asked me what I wanted to use, Google voice or messaging or whatever SMS all I'd have installed. I'd get the use one or set as default dialog, and of i set as default gv would then handle all messaging.
with 4.4, when I initiate a text from outside an app it automatically goes through hangouts, and I cannot choose google voice as a default. if I want to send a text via gv, now I have to initiate it via gv. in the op I said I downloaded chomp and handcent just to see if I got the option to set them as a default, and of the 2 only handcent showed up one list. I think expertzero hit it, and Google just hasn't updated gv for 4.4 yet

Google voice messaging support with hangouts

On my galaxy nexus, I used an app called messaging plus Google voice to optionally send text messages from my Google voice number (fo free).
It doesn't appear to be supported in Kit Kat, and surprisingly the new and improved hangouts doesn't support this either.
This was a great option for me to help manage my text messaging plan. Does anyone have an alternative?
- Thanks, Kevin
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Why don't you use google voice app to send text messages from your GV number?
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Why don't you use google voice app to send text messages from your GV number?
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The other app had them (both google voice and regular text messages) consolidated in a single view. The gv interface lacks usability IMO, and hangouts seems like the perfect place. It is a shame that the messaging + gv broke in kit Kat.
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KevinAlbrecht said:
The other app had them (both google voice and regular text messages) consolidated in a single view. The gv interface lacks usability IMO, and hangouts seems like the perfect place. It is a shame that the messaging + gv broke in kit Kat.
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In Google voice app on Android, Settings--> Sync and Notifications --> click Receive Text Messages" and select Messaging app.
Now, any text sent to the Google voice number will show up in Hangouts.
Sending is a little more complicated.
I can’t compose a new message in hangouts to a ‘new’ sender from my GV number(one that I haven’t received a message from into hangouts).
But if I send a message to my GV number (from an unrelated number), it shows up in my hangouts app with a seemingly random number (GV assigns a different intermediary number to each sender in GV – existing functionality)
If I now respond to that message in hangouts, it shows my GV number instead of my regular number.
True integration should be coming later this year though.
jj14 said:
In Google voice app on Android, Settings--> Sync and Notifications --> click Receive Text Messages" and select Messaging app.
Now, any text sent to the Google voice number will show up in Hangouts.
Sending is a little more complicated.
I can’t compose a new message in hangouts to a ‘new’ sender from my GV number(one that I haven’t received a message from into hangouts).
But if I send a message to my GV number (from an unrelated number), it shows up in my hangouts app with a seemingly random number (GV assigns a different intermediary number to each sender in GV – existing functionality)
If I now respond to that message in hangouts, it shows my GV number instead of my regular number.
True integration should be coming later this year though.
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Thanks for the heads up. I had that set already, trying to get the other app to work. I guess I have not gotten any GV messages on my new phone! and thanks for the info on the future integration (I hope).
KevinAlbrecht said:
Thanks for the heads up. I had that set already, trying to get the other app to work. I guess I have not gotten any GV messages on my new phone! and thanks for the info on the future integration (I hope).
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Also look for VoIP calling using hangouts later this year
The only real integration you can get until Google adds support, is through CyanogenMod 11. There is a framework modification called Voice+ that synchronizes your Google voice inbound/outbound messages to either the stock messenger or hangouts. It even automatically routes MMS through your phones real number.
Just to be clear this is what it does:
Your friend texts your google voice number > your default SMS app shows notification with their real number (not their GoogleVoice routing number) > you reply in your default sms app > they recieve the text from your Google Voice number.
bilago said:
The only real integration you can get until Google adds support, is through CyanogenMod 11. There is a framework modification called Voice+ that synchronizes your Google voice inbound/outbound messages to either the stock messenger or hangouts. It even automatically routes MMS through your phones real number.
Just to be clear this is what it does:
Your friend texts your google voice number > your default SMS app shows notification with their real number (not their GoogleVoice routing number) > you reply in your default sms app > they recieve the text from your Google Voice number.
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Yeah, that is what the Messaging Plus GV app did (sort of) It was a stock replacement app and you managed everything from within it. GV conversations were a separate thread, but the originating number did not change.
- Thanks, kevin
KevinAlbrecht said:
Yeah, that is what the Messaging Plus GV app did (sort of) It was a stock replacement app and you managed everything from within it. GV conversations were a separate thread, but the originating number did not change.
- Thanks, kevin
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i just purchased this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.messaging_donate
and it works with GV. you still have to have the GV app installed.
NOTE: its a separate messaging app

Hangouts SMS/over Hangout

I was wondering if anyone knows how to change the default in hangouts to stop an attempted text from going automatically to a Hangout rather than SMS.
For example, my gf has hangouts on her tablet, but not on her iPhone. When I go to click her name from the list, it will automatically default to a hangout. Now she won't ever get the hangout because she never used the nexus tablet. But I can't change it to SMS. Is there a way from hangouts to stop automatically "looking up the contact" and deal directly with SMS until its ready for primetime?
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Make sure you send as sms instead of hangout. Like say you have John Smith as a contact. You have both his Google+ name and his phone number, when you create new make sure you hit send SMS to john smith. If you have just phone numbers it automatically goes to SMS
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Make sure you send as sms instead of hangout. Like say you have John Smith as a contact. You have both his Google+ name and his phone number, when you create new make sure you hit send SMS to john smith. If you have just phone numbers it automatically goes to SMS
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Thanks. I started to learn that myself, but is there a way to stop it from automatically happening? Or should I just get used to this new way of SMS until all androids use hangouts as sms?
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justinisloco said:
Thanks. I started to learn that myself, but is there a way to stop it from automatically happening? Or should I just get used to this new way of SMS until all androids use hangouts as sms?
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It won't automatically happen when you create the SMS message it will always go to the SMS number.
I don't think androids will use hangouts specifically because people like me use different apps, I use textra for example because I absolutely hated trying to send pictures in hangouts. You could only send one, it had to be first and it was just not a good experience for me.
If you start typing the person's name in the search box it should come up with their Hangouts contact as well as their phone number. It just seems to prioritize Hangouts.

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