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Should I root my x10i now or wait?

Okay my question is simple, should I root my x10 now or wait for the 2.1 SE update.
Also does anybody have any info about the boot loader, I've seen various posts saying its been cracked, has it? And if not any idea how long before it is?
Thanks
Vengeance
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Wrong section. Anyway... check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747587
Painless root with no flashing.
Happy rooting.

Root is the way forward

Rooted now got bored so I rooted it just waiting for bootloader so I can flash 2.1 or 2.2 on
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Would like to expand a little upon this thread. I am at the same position as OP was, and my only concern is that I heard some apps in the market are not available for rooted phone (instead of the other way around) due to some protection coding. Is that true? Are there any major apps that are particularly note worthy?

snapper.fishes said:
Would like to expand a little upon this thread. I am at the same position as OP was, and my only concern is that I heard some apps in the market are not available for rooted phone (instead of the other way around) due to some protection coding. Is that true? Are there any major apps that are particularly note worthy?
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I haven't had any problems since my root, phone if anything works better, google and download an app called x10 root, this will root your phone without all the fuss. If you want to undo the root install universal androot and unroot it. They are not on the market though.
Hope this helps bud
vengeance
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Beware if you root be careful what you uninstall as some apps eg media and timescape are linked into the functionality of the phone.
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Like above said, be careful what you remove. Titanium backup is what I used. Freeze stuff first to test.
First root I did i killed timescape, gave me no end of problems.
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OKAY I AM NOW ROOTED NOW HOW DO i TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT?

I installed Xboarders stock OTA with root and superuser is there so I assume I am rooted. The first thing on my list is to get rid of FU***** car home I have no use for that thing. so how do I do it. If someone can tell me how to do it for general apps that would be great because there are a few that I dont think I want.
Charlie

get root uninstaller btw how are you an |OP| ?

OM I Dont know What is an OP?

So there is a program in the market for it okay cool. Now I noticed that Xboarder included a few things along with the rom that have to be installed seperatly and the lg camera went back to stock so All I have to do is reflash the cammera and any of those tweeks that I might want right? Can I do it all at once or do I have to reboot each time I copy a .zip from my SD card?
And the other thing is I have been using mybackup pro because you didnt need root and it worked like a charm to restore all my apps and data I got titainium pro but do I really need it I noticed that now that I have root mybackup has a few extras for root users.
That brings me to another question what is the Dalvik cache? And should it be wiped. I get the impression it is kinda like RAM is that accurate? Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
That brings me to another question what is the Dalvik cache? And should it be wiped. I get the impression it is kinda like RAM is that accurate? Sorry for all the questions but this is how I learn.
Charlie
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Android applications are basically java apps. Google didn't want to license java from Sun (now Oracle) so they wrote their own compatible version of it in a clean room environment (no intellectual property infringements but Oracle is suing them anyway) and called it "Dalvik." The Dalvik cache is the section of memory used by Android for java processes. Yes, it should be wiped EVERY time you flash a new rom or update any system app as a root user. Not clearing the cache can result in all sorts of problems including lockups, slowdowns and unexpected reboots. Keep in mind that after clearing the Dalvik cache the phone will take about five minutes to start up the first time (will be stuck on the boot screen while it is doing this) to rebuild the Dalvik cache. After the first boot the phone will be back to its incredibly short bootup time on subsequent boots. Do yourself a favor and clear the Dalvik cache.

Well now I see why I need titaium back up I answered my own question it is la multi purpose tool more than just backup. I noticed that you can do some damage if you uninsdtall certian programs I actually read that if you uninstall systerm apps it will stop you from getting any OTA updates in the future. I dont know how true that is anyone know? For now I just froze car home with titainium.

supersilko said:
get root uninstaller btw how are you an |OP| ?
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Because he created the post? lol
And I'd just search around in the Development Section... I recommend CM7 Nightly with the stock Kernel.

So now I downloaded Rom manager and I have some more questions first the first option is to flash cwm recovory didn't I do that already? Second I see an option to backup current rom is that the same as what I did In cwm before I did anything.g else? And if so will it overwrite my current one i ask because I don't want to loose my current one it is my stock backup. Sorry for all the stupid questions but I am really learning
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I can't use oneclick root because of the 2.3.4 update how did u root ur g2x??!!!
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mightymike889 said:
I can't use oneclick root because of the 2.3.4 update how did u root ur g2x??!!!
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How did you get 2.3.4 update? We are on 2.3.3 OTA update right now
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My bad 2.3.3....
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Hey it is really quite simple just flash clockworkmod then flash xboardeds stock ota with root or any ROM that is pre rooted (most are) and boom you are rooted. A quick search in this fourm will tell you
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But that doesn't give u a permanent root ...can use root enabled apps?
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Can we just rename the G2X forums to the "How Do I Get Root" forums?

Yes you Can use apps and the phone is permanently rooted as far as I know I have been usingq things that say you need root and they work fine
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NVFlash isn't impeded by this or any software update so you will always be able to use clockwork to flash new roms, pretty much all of which are rooted.
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And that root is permanent right? That is what I was lead to believe.

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And that root is permanent right? That is what I was lead to believe.
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No. Root exists within the rom; if you change to a non-rooted rom from a rooted one you will lose root. However, unless you specifically go out of your way to unroot, a rooted rom will stay rooted.
Oh, and to answer your earlier question about Rom Manager, it's a totally unnecessary tool. There is nothing it does that you can't do manually from recovery. Ignore that it even exists.
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I thought so it really does seem like there is no real reason for it. I am actually uninstall it.

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I thought so it really does seem like there is no real reason for it. I am actually uninstall it.
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Stay the hell away from ROM Manager...it's dangerous and frankly shouldn't exist at all.
If you want to use CWM, flash it to "real" recovery like you're supposed to.

Ics root process

So, when we get official ics, with the rooting process differ..? And if so, how? I know it may not seem like a huge problem, but for some reason tthis worries me alot. Thanks guys
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If you already have the bootloader unlocked and clockworkmod recovery then you will be fine as people here will put out pre rooted roms both stock and tweaked. The thing to remember is no matter how much android changes it is still Linux and open source so people will still be able to edit the program to get root access.
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But even though I have unlocked bootloader and clockworkmod, what if I take the ota..? Then what?
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You will still be rooted if not just root like you did before. Google is not apple Google does not try to block root access.
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Best way to update??

Okay, I read on here every day on my cell and can't find the answer to my question. I, like alot of people have a stock, rooted, unlocked phone and want to update to the latest OTA. I would like to, if possible, do this without Odin.
I was wondering if they're was a file like Scott's stock Rom that could be dirty flashed over stock without any problems? If there is no other way, I plan on using Odin to get back to stock after I relock the bootloader, take the update, and then reroot, unlock, etc.
The big reason that I would rather do it without the computer is that I am on the road 90% of the time and don't have access to a computer. I depend on my phone for GPS as well as entertainment, so being without my phone isn't an option for me. Are there any options?
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HHF2 said:
Okay, I read on here every day on my cell and can't find the answer to my question. I, like alot of people have a stock, rooted, unlocked phone and want to update to the latest OTA. I would like to, if possible, do this without Odin.
I was wondering if they're was a file like Scott's stock Rom that could be dirty flashed over stock without any problems? If there is no other way, I plan on using Odin to get back to stock after I relock the bootloader, take the update, and then reroot, unlock, etc.
The big reason that I would rather do it without the computer is that I am on the road 90% of the time and don't have access to a computer. I depend on my phone for GPS as well as entertainment, so being without my phone isn't an option for me. Are there any options?
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I am the same way and would like to do it without going completely back to locked/un-rooted/stock. I was able to find a ROM that Scott just updated with the new VRALG7 from verizon here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892670
This will apparently update your phone to the new baseband and leave you stock/rooted.
Hope this helps!

Yeah I read that, but there are some bugs. I wonder if anyone has tried a dirty flash?
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I just did this, I downloaded Scott's latest vralg7 on my phone opened and flashed. It works awesome haven't had any probs yet. BTW I'm stock rooted unlocked that's it.:thumbup:
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Broadley1 said:
I just did this, I downloaded Scott's latest vralg7 on my phone opened and flashed. It works awesome haven't had any probs yet. BTW I'm stock rooted unlocked that's it.:thumbup:
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Did you just wipe cache and dalvik cache or do a full wipe?
What I ended up doing was a full wipe and flashed CleanROM 2.5, which is based on the new VRLG7 updates. Then I flashed the new VRLG7 radio form here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
Titanium backup took care of restoring all of my apps and settings.

I am curious about this as well. I sent him a PM and will let you know if he replies.
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I sent him a PM and haven't heard back yet. I have read more on this and evidently, flashing on top will not update the framework? Does anyone else have any ideas?
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Sorry for the late reply. I just wiped cache I didn't wipe and factory reset and it works great
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HHF2 said:
I am curious about this as well. I sent him a PM and will let you know if he replies.
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I appreciate it!

HHF2 said:
Okay, I read on here every day on my cell and can't find the answer to my question. I, like alot of people have a stock, rooted, unlocked phone and want to update to the latest OTA. I would like to, if possible, do this without Odin.
I was wondering if they're was a file like Scott's stock Rom that could be dirty flashed over stock without any problems? If there is no other way, I plan on using Odin to get back to stock after I relock the bootloader, take the update, and then reroot, unlock, etc.
The big reason that I would rather do it without the computer is that I am on the road 90% of the time and don't have access to a computer. I depend on my phone for GPS as well as entertainment, so being without my phone isn't an option for me. Are there any options?
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You could use Mobile Odin! This designed for people on the go.

Broadley1 said:
I just did this, I downloaded Scott's latest vralg7 on my phone opened and flashed. It works awesome haven't had any probs yet. BTW I'm stock rooted unlocked that's it.:thumbup:
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You just want to make sure you don't accidentally lock your bootloader and reboot since you will get the Verizon unauthorized software message which is also fixable but..
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buhohitr said:
You could use Mobile Odin! This designed for people on the go.
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Okay, I purchased mobile Odin pro, what is the way that I need to do it? I have not seen a guide for that application. Also, will I lose everything on the phone and have to restore everything if I do it this way?
EDIT: I think I can probably wing mobile Odin, I can't find the new image file to flash. Does anyone know where to find it? I looked on Samsung updates . Com and couldn't find it.
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Can I ask why you guys want the update anyway? I'm also on stock/rooted/unlocked and all I did was freeze the apps called 'sdm' and 'fwupgrade' and there's no chance for it to update to the OTA. I hear all it has is dumbed down search and a Verizon remote-help sort of thing.

It blocks a security issue and is different framework from what I understand. I would lock the bootloader, unroot, OTA, and then redo everything but will not be around a computer until tomorrow at the best.
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HHF2 said:
It blocks a security issue and is different framework from what I understand. I would lock the bootloader, unroot, OTA, and then redo everything but will not be around a computer until tomorrow at the best.
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After reading the posts on Scott's CleanROM 2.5, that's what I am going to do this weekend. I will feel a lot better knowing I received the most up-to-date software from Samsung as the framework and then customize my phone the way I want. Plus, that's what a lot of the more experienced posters have been recommending, and for a noob like me, it would be dumb for me to not take their advice.
Thanks for getting back to me about the cache wiping question!

No worries, good luck!
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[Q] Unroot question

Is it possible to unroot your phone without going back to the stock rom? My employer started offering wi-fi but only for unrooted devices. Thank you.

There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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Волк said:
There have been miscellaneous discussions regarding hiding root, I would suggest looking into those first.
As well, if there is no software/app needed to be installed on the device there's no way that a wifi connection could detect root. So, how do they plan to find out if you're rooted or not?
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They do have something that you have to install in order to use the wi-fi service. I hadn't seen anything about hiding root and will do a search on that. Thank you!
Chuck

Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Why does your employer care if you're rooted or not when connecting to their Wi-Fi?
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I work for a financial company so everything is extra secure.

I still don't understand why root access to your own device poses a threat so much that your employer doesn't want you connecting to wifi. Either way l, hope someone can help u hide ur super user status or connect to the network anyway
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Because companies like that are paranoid and think you may accidently or on purpose give them a virus, or have them. Android is not affected by a Win32 virus, and it may not even be affected by a regular Linux virus (very unlikely but I don't know tons about the ins and outs on that level).
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Not sure if hiding su would work. A simple app should be able to determine that you have su binary even without gaining access (IMHO).
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Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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Yes it's possible, I have CM9 without root. SuperSu has an option to remove root I think it's just the app and the SU binary not sure. I would assume that they don't want a user rooted because it's very easy to packet sniff if you're rooted and connected to someone's WiFi
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Thanks everyone. I found a few things that I am going to try and will let you know if any work!
Chuck

So I have an update on this. The app that my employer is using for this is AirWatch. I tried using the Temporary Unroot option in Superuser prior to installing it but my phone still came back as non-compliant. I know that the unroot worked though because ROM Manager told me that the phone needed to be unrooted in order for it to work. I am thinking there may be another app on my phone that it is detecting and thus causing it to say it is out of compliance. I am going to keep researching but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know!
Chuck

maybe it's detecting any of the apps on your phone that were granted su access....did you deny them SU access before hiding root?

I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.

chuckbort said:
I tried that and also uninstalled a couple of items but still no go. The only apps on the list are superuser itself and titanium backup as I deleted the others.
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Can you try a full unroot with super one click and see if that works?
I would have a $500 brick if it weren't for nvflash. Thanks Nvidia!

Thank you again to everyone for your help. We switched to the new plan at T-Mobile and I ended up buying the HTC One. With the offer to trade in my wife's Samsung Exhibit 4G (the I first one) for $100 toward the purchase from HTC I felt it was the right time to upgrade.