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[Q] Help i think i bricked my nexus s for ever.

soo. i exedently wiped my whole device(including the rom i was wanting to flash on it trough CWM)
and the worst part about it is.
my pc cant find my nexus.
it keeps saying Unknown device error 43.
even though im gona buy GN.
i stil want my NS to life D;
and the GN wont be coming until.. bla bla what ever date,..
so is there any magic guru that could help me ?
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apperantly it helped when i opened my nexus and dismounted all parts.put it back togheter.and fiddle with the micro usb connecter.
than plug it in and instal the PDANET drivers.
though i did try 10times bevore with the pdanet drivers.and didnt suckseed xp
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ghost010 said:
soo. i exedently wiped my whole device(including the rom i was wanting to flash on it trough CWM)
and the worst part about it is.
my pc cant find my nexus.
it keeps saying Unknown device error 43.
even though im gona buy GN.
i stil want my NS to life D;
and the GN wont be coming until.. bla bla what ever date,..
so is there any magic guru that could help me ?
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you can access your recovery? if so, there is a usb storage option in clockwork.

simms22 said:
you can access your recovery? if so, there is a usb storage option in clockwork.
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id recomand youd read this line:
"my pc cant find my nexus.
it keeps saying Unknown device error 43."

ghost010 said:
id recomand youd read this line:
"my pc cant find my nexus.
it keeps saying Unknown device error 43."
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do you have the nexus s drivers installed?

simms22 said:
do you have the nexus s drivers installed?
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i have the SDK USB drivers.

ghost010 said:
i have the SDK USB drivers.
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try reinstalling them through the pdanet website http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php
download the free version to your desktop and install, then follow the onscreen instructions. itll install the proper drivers for your phone. its possible that it wont recognize your phone though. also, did you try reformatting the phones storage? and you never answered, can you still boot into recovery?

simms22 said:
try reinstalling them through the pdanet website http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php
download the free version to your desktop and install, then follow the onscreen instructions. itll install the proper drivers for your phone. its possible that it wont recognize your phone though. also, did you try reformatting the phones storage? and you never answered, can you still boot into recovery?
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yes i can boot into recovery. formathing the storage is the thing that made me come to this dead end.(not being able to flash the rom. cuz i formated the storage where the rom was on.
oh and i did not instal the USB drivers.cuz it doesnt find my device.
and.. how do i set my device to USB debug when i cant boot to android -.-? ill just skip that step

****.im in! dling a rom now/fast!
ill post pics on what i did >< thoug i do not recomand it
is there a OTA after 2.3.6? for the 3G version?
apperantly,google likes to update 2.3.6 to 2.3.6 :S?

I wish people stop using the word brick unless it really is bricked.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

ghost010 said:
****.im in! dling a rom now/fast!
ill post pics on what i did >< thoug i do not recomand it
is there a OTA after 2.3.6? for the 3G version?
apperantly,google likes to update 2.3.6 to 2.3.6 :S?
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no, 2.3.6 is the latest ota version for the 3G versions of the nexus s. im glad that you got it working btw

obsanity said:
I wish people stop using the word brick unless it really is bricked.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
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wauw,your info was really useful.
maybe you should consider RE thinking the meaning of bricked.
you call an electronic a Brick when it's useless and cant do the things it supposed to do.
that it can turn on and show letters, doesn't exclude it from the definition bricked.
and my nexus S was useless until repairs. so yes it was a brick.
i might not have as many posts as you do. but that doesn't conclude on what level of knowledge i am. so dont even try to say im totally wrong.
next time.contribute. not the opposite.
and if you cant contribute,than dont even post irrelevant things at all.

NM. Got going to bother.

ghost010 said:
wauw,your info was really useful.
maybe you should consider RE thinking the meaning of bricked.
you call an electronic a Brick when it's useless and cant do the things it supposed to do.
that it can turn on and show letters, doesn't exclude it from the definition bricked.
and my nexus S was useless until repairs. so yes it was a brick.
i might not have as many posts as you do. but that doesn't conclude on what level of knowledge i am. so dont even try to say im totally wrong.
next time.contribute. not the opposite.
and if you cant contribute,than dont even post irrelevant things at all.
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In the strictest sense of the term, bricking must imply that software error has rendered the device completely unrecoverable without some hardware replacement.
We at XDA like to take our definitions very seriously. You had a softbrick

brick/softbrick.. it just doesnt matter because its all relative to the moment the thread was started. to the op, it was a brick when he started the thread. it later became known that the phone was softbricked, only after fixing it. whats important is that the op fixed his phone, everything else is just semantics and irrelevant. well, its irrelevant unless now this thread turned into a "define bricked" thread. then its relevant and to the point
(btw, sorry. i wasnt meaning to be an ass if i sounded like one. im just feeling a little rambunctious )

ghost010 said:
wauw,your info was really useful.
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You're welcome.
Once again:
Bricked = non-recoverable. <- notice the period
Softbricked = recoverable, software problem
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

simms22 said:
brick/softbrick.. it just doesnt matter because its all relative to the moment the thread was started. to the op, it was a brick when he started the thread. it later became known that the phone was softbricked, only after fixing it. whats important is that the op fixed his phone, everything else is just semantics and irrelevant. well, its irrelevant unless now this thread turned into a "define bricked" thread. then its relevant and to the point
(btw, sorry. i wasnt meaning to be an ass if i sounded like one. im just feeling a little rambunctious )
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at-least some one that doesn't think he's Almighty and knowing.
and being an ass about it.
and what simms22 just said.
in the start of the thread.i thought it was bricked.
but we managed to get it fixed.
though USB not working(yes the USB component of the main board)
does imply bricked. cuz it did need a replacement(though i fiddled with it and got it to work.)thats why i edited my first post.
it was part bricked,part soft bricked.

No one is implying that they are all mighty and know-it-all. We're simply saying that every time someone messes up their phone and don't know how to fix it they call it "bricked". Almost every day we see a post about a bricked phone and 99 % of them turn out to be just another newbie trying to root the device or some other mistake.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

ghost010 said:
at-least some one that doesn't think he's Almighty and knowing.
and being an ass about it.
and what simms22 just said.
in the start of the thread.i thought it was bricked.
but we managed to get it fixed.
though USB not working(yes the USB component of the main board)
does imply bricked. cuz it did need a replacement(though i fiddled with it and got it to work.)thats why i edited my first post.
it was part bricked,part soft bricked.
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glad you fixed it . mind sharing what you did?
Editkay. i've read your first post .got my answer.

obsanity said:
No one is implying that they are all mighty and know-it-all. We're simply saying that every time someone messes up their phone and don't know how to fix it they call it "bricked". Almost every day we see a post about a bricked phone and 99 % of them turn out to be just another newbie trying to root the device or some other mistake.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
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that is true..

[Q] G2x stucked in the booting screen! (After installing CyanogenMod)

Hey guys - I'm sorry for my really bad english and i'm - almost - an android noob.
Until today i hadn't made any modification on my phone (not even rooting, just installing apps and launchers).
Today i tried to root it, and completely worked it out. After this i tried to install the CyanogenMod 7. It seemed like was gonna work, but when it was "rebooting", it stucked in the booting screen and i don't know what to do now
I already tried to do everything that is in this thread: How to unbrick your G2x from GB update through LG, but it didn't work.
The phone just back to the way it was before.
Just a pic to you guys know what i'm talking about:
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did you wipe: cache/ dalvik/ format system before you flashed the rom?

shane1diamond said:
did you wipe: cache/ dalvik/ format system before you flashed the rom?
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No, i actually didn't.

Please, someone help me! I'm desesperate, i don't know what to do

danielorp said:
Please, someone help me! I'm desesperate, i don't know what to do
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Try going on the Youtube, you will find the answer there

ratza66 said:
Try going on the Youtube, you will find the answer there
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I already tried, but it just shows me an way to do that with an app called "Octupus Box" but i'd have to pay, and it seems like something not SO hard to do, but i can't do it by myself, i'll need you guys help ):

read this over, and never try to root your phone without reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049154

I had that same problem the first time I did used CM7. What I did was I went back into recovery, wiped everything. Format, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik. Then did it all over again. It worked the second time. If it doesn't work, look for another rom and see if it works. If not, unroot and stay that way. Every phone, despite being made the same, doesn't function the same.

danielorp said:
I already tried, but it just shows me an way to do that with an app called "Octupus Box" but i'd have to pay, and it seems like something not SO hard to do, but i can't do it by myself, i'll need you guys help ):
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Try this method to unbrick your phone, think this would be the best solution for you. Follow instructions to the teeth, good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248644

jaywillsoul said:
I had that same problem the first time I did used CM7. What I did was I went back into recovery, wiped everything. Format, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik. Then did it all over again. It worked the second time. If it doesn't work, look for another rom and see if it works. If not, unroot and stay that way. Every phone, despite being made the same, doesn't function the same.
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I'll try this right now!

jaywillsoul said:
I had that same problem the first time I did used CM7. What I did was I went back into recovery, wiped everything. Format, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik. Then did it all over again. It worked the second time. If it doesn't work, look for another rom and see if it works. If not, unroot and stay that way. Every phone, despite being made the same, doesn't function the same.
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Well, i tried it. I pressed Power + Volume Down, and the phone went to the recovery mode, like this:
After a while it goes like this:
The phone restarts as if was gonna work, but it stucks in the logo again =/

ratza66 said:
Try this method to unbrick your phone, think this would be the best solution for you. Follow instructions to the teeth, good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248644
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Man, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I did it, and i can't even say enough "thank you" for you sending me that link.
Now my phone is working perfectly!
Actually, thanks for everybody who tried to help

danielorp said:
Man, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I did it, and i can't even say enough "thank you" for you sending me that link.
Now my phone is working perfectly!
Actually, thanks for everybody who tried to help
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Glad I can help, now go to youtube and there is a tutorial on how to load CM7, good luck

ratza66 said:
Glad I can help, now go to youtube and there is a tutorial on how to load CM7, good luck
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Well, i'm not sure if i'll try to do this again hehe, i'm really afraid of it now...

danielorp said:
Well, i'm not sure if i'll try to do this again hehe, i'm really afraid of it now...
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Well you know now how to unbrick your phone

[HELP] IMEI No. Unknown

One of my friend is facing issues while using Nexus 5. His phone is unrooted. As of now, he can't
-see his IMEI No,
-save a screenshot (he can take it)
-phone showing empty folder when connected to PC
-wipe cache partition via stock recovery
What he did ? he just restarted his phone via stock recovery. i dunno why. Any help appreaciated. TIA.

Flash stock cache.img and if that doesn't work, flash all stock images. All data will be lost.
See the flashing stock sticky in general
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

eddy4823 said:
One of my friend is facing issues while using Nexus 5. His phone is unrooted. As of now, he can't
-see his IMEI No,
-save a screenshot (he can take it)
-phone showing empty folder when connected to PC
-wipe cache partition via stock recovery
What he did ? he just restarted his phone via stock recovery. i dunno why. Any help appreaciated. TIA.
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Flash the latest factory image via fastboot ??
or cache.img

Flash the factory image and try again. If it's still not there the EFS partition is borked and the phone is dead (can't be fixed as the EFS is specific to each device)

EddyOS said:
Flash the factory image and try again. If it's still not there the EFS partition is borked and the phone is dead (can't be fixed as the EFS is specific to each device)
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The EFS can not be damage .....all is stock no root or somethink .....

jamal2367 said:
The EFS can not be damage .....all is stock no root or somethink .....
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Well, your friend has done something so have him flash the factory image in its entirety and see what happens. If he's 100% stock (not unlocked) he should be OK

He doesn't wanna lose his data. he'll lose all data if he unlocks the bootloader.

eddy4823 said:
He doesn't wanna lose his data. he'll lose all data if he unlocks the bootloader.
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Have him back it up first but, ultimately he'll HAVE to do it to fix this

eddy4823 said:
He doesn't wanna lose his data. he'll lose all data if he unlocks the bootloader.
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The best way is flash the latest factory image and lets See

eddy4823 said:
He doesn't wanna lose his data. he'll lose all data if he unlocks the bootloader.
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He has no choice. He can't get the data without fixing the phone. He can't fix the phone without losing the data. Catch 22
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

EddyOS said:
Have him back it up first but, ultimately he'll HAVE to do it to fix this
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He cant backup the contents. His phone is showing EMPTY FOLDER when he connects the phone to PC.

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He cant backup the contents. His phone is showing EMPTY FOLDER when he connects the phone to PC.
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Dude, the data is GONE! The only question is whether he wants his phone fixed or not. If not, may as well close this thread
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This is his stock recovery. You sure losing the data and unlocking and flashing factory image will fix the issue ?

Can't be sure it will fix it. As @EddyOS stated,.if EFS is corrupt, then there is no come back. Its unlikely without root to be corrupt - but not unfeasible.
There's no way to get the phone working without sacrificing the data unfortunately.
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rootSU said:
Can't be sure it will fix it. As @EddyOS stated,.if EFS is corrupt, then there is no come back. Its unlikely without root to be corrupt - but not unfeasible.
There's no way to get the phone working without sacrificing the data unfortunately.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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thanks a ton for your quick replies as always.

No worries. Good luck!
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rootSU said:
Dude, the data is GONE! The only question is whether he wants his phone fixed or not. If not, may as well close this thread
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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bro.. in stock recovery there is a message e: failed to mount.
but in settings>storage... it shows all the space occupied by apps,music and all other...
is there any possibility to somehow mount that partition..??

ashu01 said:
bro.. in stock recovery there is a message e: failed to mount.
but in settings>storage... it shows all the space occupied by apps,music and all other...
is there any possibility to somehow mount that partition..??
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When I say the data is gone, its not actually gone. Its there. But there is no way to get it back. No way to get it off without root / custom recovery - which wipes the data
All the known recovery options I listed in my recovery thread but as you'll see, none are applicable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534010
[ info] Storage: Nexus 5 Data (info / loss / recovery / prevention)
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What if he has that flash chip got screwed up problem like the many others who are unable to flash unlock, or lock bootloader and flash stock rom, because they can not write to the phone because of the faulty flash chip?
If he was on stock and never root or unlocked bl then it is better to send it back to RMA
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Hey guys hope you can help with my oneplus 7 pro. So I did not backup before rooting the device, however, I was able to successfully root it. The problem arose when I wanted to take the twrp official 3.3.1-2 and upgraded to 3.3.1-29 version. I flashed it on the system image in the twrp setting, but it ended up writing over OS. Now there is no OS on the oneplus 7 pro. Do you guys have a suggestion into how I can fix this problem? and bring it back into the rooted phone. I also was hoping if you guys know anyway to lock the twrp with a password in the future? thank you

1] Your TWRP should already have had a pin if you had set a pin (same one) when using the rom
2] Can you still boot into TWRP as recovery? If so then go grab the latest 9.5.7 :
Official : https://otafsg1.h2os.com/patch/amaz...ygen_21.E.11_OTA_011_all_1906040003_25c96.zip
My mirror on AFH : https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117889610
You should be able to flash it using TWRP if you've not messed up too badly, then you may be back to default rom and can start again.
If you get that far then read the guide on the @mauronofrio TWRP properly and flash everything again. I've also uploaded a rooted 9.5.7 boot image here if you want to try that way instead :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79678478&postcount=522
If the worst comes to the worst then you may be able to boot into fastboot then run :
fastboot boot twrp-3.3.1-29-guacamole.img
Boot into TWRP and try sideloading the whole 9.5.7 rom instead

18os13 said:
Hey guys hope you can help with my oneplus 7 pro. So I did not backup before rooting the device, however, I was able to successfully root it. The problem arose when I wanted to take the twrp official 3.3.1-2 and upgraded to 3.3.1-29 version. I flashed it on the system image in the twrp setting, but it ended up writing over OS. Now there is no OS on the oneplus 7 pro. Do you guys have a suggestion into how I can fix this problem? and bring it back into the rooted phone. I also was hoping if you guys know anyway to lock the twrp with a password in the future? thank you
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You could always download one of the fastboot ROMs and flash them again. You're obviously unlocked etc so all you'd need to do is fastboot flash system system.img. just make sure it's the same version.

ok since the update I was able to get the twrp installed again, but choose a wrong option in the reboot menu, something to do with edl, now the phone turn on at all :/

I give up, apparently people just can't follow instructions.

djsubterrain said:
I give up, apparently people just can't follow instructions.
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it was slightly before I read this post :/. Is there anything possible now or am i screwed?

18os13 said:
it was slightly before I read this post :/. Is there anything possible now or am i screwed?
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honestly I have no idea what I just did, but everything just came back online again

18os13 said:
it was slightly before I read this post :/. Is there anything possible now or am i screwed?
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MSM tool, guac recovery.
theres a thread in this section. It will wipe the phone.

18os13 said:
honestly I have no idea what I just did, but everything just came back online again
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Be vewy vewy careful...
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just get out of EDL, either hold down the power button or hold - and Power for like 10 seconds until u boot out of it

Ok so I basically pressed the volume and down buttom with the power button, then the phone recovered back to the when I first got it and it got uprooted. Anyway, the whole reason I was wanted to root the phone was so that I can lock the TWRP with a password. This would only give me access to hard resetting the phone. Do any of you guys have a solution to this? its a phone for my little brother, and I want to restrict his access to the internet, but he knows how to hard reset the phone using the volume down and power. however, if I can lock the TWRP with a password he cant get around that part as easily.

18os13 said:
Ok so I basically pressed the volume and down buttom with the power button, then the phone recovered back to the when I first got it and it got uprooted. Anyway, the whole reason I was wanted to root the phone was so that I can lock the TWRP with a password. This would only give me access to hard resetting the phone. Do any of you guys have a solution to this? its a phone for my little brother, and I want to restrict his access to the internet, but he knows how to hard reset the phone using the volume down and power. however, if I can lock the TWRP with a password he cant get around that part as easily.
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You might be able to do that with a guest account but you can't lockout TWRP with a password, it will use the pin applied to the phone. If you set it up as the default user with a pin then that's the pin that will be applied to TWRP so I would look at setting him up as a guest instead which should keep him out of TWRP too.

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You might be able to do that with a guest account but you can't lockout TWRP with a password, it will use the pin applied to the phone. If you set it up as the default user with a pin then that's the pin that will be applied to TWRP so I would look at setting him up as a guest instead which should keep him out of TWRP too.
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perfect, thanks for the help

A way to stop android 12 update after it was downloaded?

Hi, i got samsung tab s7 and it auto downloaded the update to android 12 and now it says that I can postpone it 9nly 3 times. Is there a way to get rid of it? I wouldn't be able to use the color calibrator app once it will get the update, which makes the tablet pretty useless for me. Thanks

Clear the system cache... I never tried it but was told that would clear it.

blackhawk said:
Clear the system cache... I never tried it but was told that would clear it.
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blackhawk said:
Clear the system cache... I never tried it but was told that would clear it.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. How do I do a system cache clean?

sltwtr said:
Thanks, I'll give it a try. How do I do a system cache clean?
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It's on the boot menu. Not sure for that device.
It can be a little tricky if you don't get the timing and button sequence right.
It would have been better to force power off the phone before it completed the download. Perhaps using ADB editing you could kill it. Not sure if disabling OTA updates now would stop it but that be worth a shot.
If it updates you may be able to flash it back to 11 if it doesn't upgrade the boot loader too.
You may want to see if someone has a better, more detailed plan. I always keep OTA updates package blocked. Package Disabler can be used to kill updates, that might be the easiest way.
OTA updates...
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blackhawk said:
It's on the boot menu. Not sure for that device.
It can be a little tricky if you don't get the timing and button sequence right.
It would have been better to force power off the phone before it completed the download. Perhaps using ADB editing you could kill it. Not sure if disabling OTA updates now would stop it but that be worth a shot.
If it updates you may be able to flash it back to 11 if it doesn't upgrade the boot loader too.
You may want to see if someone has a better, more detailed plan. I always keep OTA updates package blocked. Package Disabler can be used to kill updates, that might be the easiest way.
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Thank you vm. Ckearing cache didnt work, theres still a scheduled update. I thought to try and reset the tablet (its still running android 11) and not to connect it to the wifi before ill disable the auto software updates in the settings. You think it might work or is it possible that after ill reset it, it will upgrade itself?
Btw, are there any drawbacks if ill flash it back to android 11? (security-wise, warranty-wise etc')

sltwtr said:
Thank you vm. Ckearing cache didnt work, theres still a scheduled update. I thought to try and reset the tablet (its still running android 11) and not to connect it to the wifi before ill disable the auto software updates in the settings. You think it might work or is it possible that after ill reset it, it will upgrade itself?
Btw, are there any drawbacks if ill flash it back to android 11? (security-wise, warranty-wise etc')
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Sorry that didn't work.
Try disabling the update app itself.
You can roll back to 11 as long as it doesn't update the bootloader to a new version.
No warranty implications unless you root it.
Security isn't an issue. I'm running on Pie.

blackhawk said:
Sorry that didn't work.
Try disabling the update app itself.
You can roll back to 11 as long as it doesn't update the bootloader to a new version.
No warranty implications unless you root it.
Security isn't an issue. I'm running on Pie.
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What do you mean by disabling the app itself? What app?
How can i tell if it uploaded the bootloader?
Will i still have all the samsung features and apps?
Can you refer me to a reliable guide for downgrading?
Sorry for all the questions, thank you

sltwtr said:
What do you mean by disabling the app itself? What app?
How can i tell if it uploaded the bootloader?
Will i still have all the samsung features and apps?
Can you refer me to a reliable guide for downgrading?
Sorry for all the questions, thank you
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My previous post shows the app in it com.wys... whatever. Install package disabler and see if that can kill the install. It probably can.
If you end up on 12... deal with that then.
I recommend you do everything you can to keep it from installing... tick-tock Mr. Wick, no time to dilly dally.

blackhawk said:
My previous post shows the app in it com.wys... whatever. Install package disabler and see if that can kill the install. It probably can.
If you end up on 12... deal with that then.
I recommend you do everything you can to keep it from installing... tick-tock Mr. Wick, no time to dilly dally.
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I ended up doing a factory reset. I didn't connect it to wifi at first and disabled auto update in the setting. So far it seems to work. Thank you

sltwtr said:
I ended up doing a factory reset. I didn't connect it to wifi at first and disabled auto update in the setting. So far it seems to work. Thank you
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You're welcome.
Yay. Glad you were about to kill it.
Thank you for that information about the cache fix being invalid.