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Will the dev community pick up?

Just curious if anyone remembers the N1's dev community at this stage. Was it about the same as the NS is now? It seems a little slow, but I completely understand the thing just came out - just didn't know relatively speaking how fast or slow it's coming along.
It's a very important factor in my buying/keeping a phone.

It's actually moving quite fast considering the phone hasn't even been out a month yet. Morfic from Team Whiskey already provided us with a fully funtional 1.3 OC kernel. It took months to get a semi-stable one for the Vibrant.

Cool. I've never bought a phone this early in its cycle, so I was unsure. I left the EVO which had ROMs etc. out the wazoo. I expected there not to be a whole lot available so early, just didn't know if relatively what's available is a lot or a little.

While the quantity of roms may not be as vast as of yet I can assure you the quality is there. You will not regret making this purchase and I'm sure given a little more time the NS will shock us all with it's hidden time machine app that we haven't unlocked yet.

i'd not comment on quality so early.
Like common... it's been only 3 WEEKS since the release date.
I think we are doing pretty darn good already, way ahead of expectations.
in contrast the SGS I9000 took like 2 to 3 months to pick up speeed in the DEV world
now after 4 months they finally have quality ROMS compared to 2 months back

AllGamer said:
i'd not comment on quality so early.
Like common... it's been only 3 WEEKS since the release date.
I think we are doing pretty darn good already, way ahead of expectations.
in contrast the SGS I9000 took like 2 to 3 months to pick up speeed in the DEV world
now after 4 months they finally have quality ROMS compared to 2 months back
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I think the similarity and comparisons to the SGS line are what worry me a bit. It's usually HTC that gets all the dev love, and the SGS series (IMO) had some pretty lacking dev support.
I pray that the NS continues to get more support than the SGS.

fchipm said:
I think the similarity and comparisons to the SGS line are what worry me a bit. It's usually HTC that gets all the dev love, and the SGS series (IMO) had some pretty lacking dev support.
I pray that the NS continues to get more support than the SGS.
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I disagree about the "SGS series...had some pretty lacking dev support."
You've got to be more specific about which SGS. The i9000 crowd is very active with lots of custom roms, tweaks, kernels, recoveries, etc. The T-Mo Vibrant doesn't have nearly as much, but there's still a few options (TW, Eugene and a few others). The Captivate I know has some custom kernels, but the Fascinate seems to have almost nothing. Lack of dev support kept me from getting a Fascinate, despite desperately wanting to switch to Verizon for service.
Maybe Cyanogen and crew never gave any of these real love, but it's a disservice to some really great devs like Paul O'Brien (Modaco), DocRambone, SuperCurio, Morfic, etc to say that the entire SGS line didn't get support.
Supercurio and Paul O'Brien changed the i9000 from the best hadware on the market with the worst OS/FS to the best of both.

I just did some calculations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10377107&postcount=566
It sums up to some 268000 units. In 3 weeks. Just in US of A and UK.
Either I grossly miscalculated somewhere or it is just "wow".

fchipm said:
Just curious if anyone remembers the N1's dev community at this stage. Was it about the same as the NS is now? It seems a little slow, but I completely understand the thing just came out - just didn't know relatively speaking how fast or slow it's coming along.
It's a very important factor in my buying/keeping a phone.
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LOL @ Everyone asking about dev support.
The phone hasn't even been out a month yet! On the Nexus One, the developer community wasn't anything but maybe one or two ROMs that were optimized Eclair plus CM5 and then a handful of kernels all doing essentially the same thing.
We also need to consider the fact that when the Nexus One launched, there was nothing like it on the market at that time. Not the case with the Nexus S. This time around, there are a lot of great phones to choose from.
I hope folks realize that one of the reasons we aren't seeing a lot of action on the development front is because everything pre-Gingerbread is considered a downgrade. Once Samsung, HTC, or Motorola update their devices to 2.3, then we'll start seeing more ROMs. Ohwaitnvm on Samsung.

unremarked said:
LOL @ Everyone asking about dev support.
The phone hasn't even been out a month yet! On the Nexus One, the developer community wasn't anything but maybe one or two ROMs that were optimized Eclair plus CM5 and then a handful of kernels all doing essentially the same thing.
We also need to consider the fact that when the Nexus One launched, there was nothing like it on the market at that time. Not the case with the Nexus S. This time around, there are a lot of great phones to choose from.
I hope folks realize that one of the reasons we aren't seeing a lot of action on the development front is because everything pre-Gingerbread is considered a downgrade. Once Samsung, HTC, or Motorola update their devices to 2.3, then we'll start seeing more ROMs. Ohwaitnvm on Samsung.
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I wasn't keeping up with N1 development at this point in its life. Glad to know it seems we are in good shape then.
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Can't wait for that HTC sense rom on this beautiful screen!!! 8-o
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does anyone know if cyanogen is planning on switching to the nexus s, or is he staying with the nexus one? that prob would make a huge difference.

RogerPodacter said:
does anyone know if cyanogen is planning on switching to the nexus s, or is he staying with the nexus one? that prob would make a huge difference.
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Last I heard, Cyanogen's primary device was still his G2. Koush is the one who's supposed to be developing CM for the Nexus S.

unremarked said:
Last I heard, Cyanogen's primary device was still his G2. Koush is the one who's supposed to be developing CM for the Nexus S.
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And doing a great job at it! Loving the newest alpha.

Already 4 roms (I think) available. That's a pretty good start since it hasn't even been a month yet.

jthornton71707 said:
Can't wait for that HTC sense rom on this beautiful screen!!! 8-o
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HTC != Samsung
I thought the whole reason for getting a NS would be to have the untainted Google experience not a HTC Skin or a Samsung skin for that matter
RogerPodacter said:
does anyone know if cyanogen is planning on switching to the nexus s, or is he staying with the nexus one? that prob would make a huge difference.
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Think I saw a tweet from @cyanogen mentioning that if it is supported by Google then it will be supported by #teamdouche

Xoom users

got a trade offer for a Xoom, I was just curious being a new Android user over the past 5 months and loving my HTC Inspire how you guys like your Xoom tablet ? I got till tomorrow to make the trade any input would be much appreciated

I love my tablet, much easier to use the browser and the bigger screen is great for games and documents.

CompCrash said:
I love my tablet, much easier to use the browser and the bigger screen is great for games and documents.
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We've produced a large number of "why I love my Xoom" threads...well it's really great. I can do so much with it and it's always with me. My family's actually jealous of my relationship with it, lol.
There's a great community of developers and enthusiasts and everyone tries to help each other root and mod and test new stuff. The Xoom's great as a stock pure Google Experience tab, but it really shines when it's rooted and running custom roms/kernels. It's also built like a tank and is really hard to brick. So yeah, I think it would be a good trade.

Thank you!

Hi guys, I just wanted to say thank you for all the information you have provided in these forums, Ive been using it for over 2 years now without contributing... I just wanted to let you guys know that people really do appreciate your work even tho they don't take time to post. I finally got the best Captivate Experience by far that I am now considering to stay with it till quad core phones come out. I love darkyrom but MIUI rocks, smoothest experience Ive had ever! KC1 modem is amazing and I am totally satisfied with my phone now.

Lack of development

Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.

cavsoldier19d said:
Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.
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I'm not a developer but speaking strickly as a tablet user I can honestly say this is the first tablet I have owned where I had no desire to modify it in any way. This tablet functions just the way I want it too right out of the box.
So for me , lack of development has never been an issue.

Have to admit, even though I rooted so I could use Apps2SD, my Note is fairly perfect just the way it is.

It could be that they're waiting for jelly bean.
And yeah, the note is pretty much perfect the way it is.
I will say that I had the same problem with my note GT 7000 (the phone) having the perfect GUI.
It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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blud7 said:
It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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+1. Exactly my point. ROMs arent always aosp. With our tab, because of the s pen functionality, its a given that custom stock roms would make more sense. But stock roms can always be slimmed down and tweaked.

I have asked a few devs if they could consider developing for the Note 10.1. And they have all asked they have a very tight schedeule but maybe later ( Indiemega) and another said about the same but he would be glad to help (Wanam) if i liked to develop myself. And its really no point in just building something thats no better or diffrent from stock. And that would be what i would have come up with, i dont have any skills to see what MOD or TWEAK would fit nice and that doesnt interfere with some other tweak. Lets just hope for the best and maybe when prices goes down in a couple of months the devs start coming.

I too don't pretty much have any issue in the way my Note 10.1 performs. It is already cool. Plus the promised JB update will make it even better. So why bother developing anything for something that's bound to get better in near future?
Let's wait and see and in the meantime enjoy our precious

Im going to say this again... theres always a need for development. No matter how good the stock rom is we as a community need custom roms. Lol
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I don't feel the need for this tablet... Just waiting for Jelly Beans!
Also can't wait for the Note II!
Develop for those that really need it.

this is the first tablet where i've had where stock is pretty damn good. great battery life, snappy processor, no real bugs... other than some apps i don't need this thing is great as is. even overclocking wouldn't make much of a difference in my usage.
still i'd probably flash a good JB rom when ever they start rolling out.

Devs come super handy when the product you like so mucho gets dropped officially, say goodbye to sweet potatoe pie 6.0, unless you upgrade the hardware.
dont burn bridges man, we need devs in the later years, no doubt.
This thread may interest some of you,
[PETITION] Let's get some Exynos sources!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
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Still worth buying as a budget device?

Hi Blaze friends,
I'm looking for a budget device for some family members and am curious if the Blaze still fits the bill. I'll be able to buy them new at $130 off contract and am looking to upgrade from a Galaxy S 4g, mostly because they're having some hardware issues.
My goal is something less than $150 and I think this is the best Android option I'm able to find. I'm mostly considering this or a Lumia 521 (no need to warm me about WP8 ).
Also, if you guys still suggest buying a Blaze, could you also recommend a rock solid ROM (stock is a valid option if y'all say it's good) that won't require regular tech support?
Many thanks from a Nexus/AOKP guy!
-Jax

Jaxidian said:
Hi Blaze friends,
I'm looking for a budget device for some family members and am curious if the Blaze still fits the bill. I'll be able to buy them new at $130 off contract and am looking to upgrade from a Galaxy S 4g, mostly because they're having some hardware issues.
My goal is something less than $150 and I think this is the best Android option I'm able to find. I'm mostly considering this or a Lumia 521 (no need to warm me about WP8 ).
Also, if you guys still suggest buying a Blaze, could you also recommend a rock solid ROM (stock is a valid option if y'all say it's good) that won't require regular tech support?
Many thanks from a Nexus/AOKP guy!
-Jax
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I recommend getting this phone! It's amazing. Especially with all the new ROMs we are receiving from the amazing developers on here! A good solid ROM is Dirty Unicorns (my opinion) but it would vary among other users. Always read the bug list though. Its fairly stable now and I'm sure most of the bugs are squashed. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask this spectacular community!

xWolf13 said:
I recommend getting this phone! It's amazing. Especially with all the new ROMs we are receiving from the amazing developers on here! A good solid ROM is Dirty Unicorns (my opinion) but it would vary among other users. Always read the bug list though. Its fairly stable now and I'm sure most of the bugs are squashed. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask this spectacular community!
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Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback!

Jaxidian said:
Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback!
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this phone is good and bad.
figure out if you need the size. If you don't want to go larger, this is about the best phone you can find.
There are some restrictions though. This isn't one of the mainstream CyanogenMod phones so doesn't get updates as fast as some others, even older ones. Also since it's been orphaned by Samsung, we probably will have a kernel problem within the next few generations of OS.
Also. The tiny internal storage has been a problem. Mostly this means you have to use a SD card and then install a 3rd party Camera app to allow for storage to the SD card, which can't be done automatically. I'd suggest Snap Camera or Camera JB+ for this (both $).
I have one with a cracked screen that I'm selling for $50. It's on T-Mobile right now though.
I wouldn't pay $130 for it since they are going on Craigslist for about $90 in good or near new shape. But I'm okay buying and selling used and do it regularly so that's a factor.
Overall. I'd go with a SGS II instead of the Blaze if size and the small price difference isn't a big deal for you. The SGSII has similar specs and a larger screen but with better XDA support as well as a lot more people out there with them, so the community is a bit stronger.
Just my not so humble opinion.

Just bought this phone for $130 new from HSN for my mom (her very first smartphone). What's the latest official update for this phone, I know it at least has ICS correct? Is it still stuck on that or has it been officially updated to JB? Thanks guys!

mackster248 said:
Just bought this phone for $130 new from HSN for my mom (her very first smartphone). What's the latest official update for this phone, I know it at least has ICS correct? Is it still stuck on that or has it been officially updated to JB? Thanks guys!
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You're stuck on ICS unless you go aftermarket. They've stopped releasing updates for this phone. That said, ICS isn't too shabby.

Jaxidian said:
You're stuck on ICS unless you go aftermarket. They've stopped releasing updates for this phone. That said, ICS isn't too shabby.
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Thanks man! Tempted to root it... But I suppose ICS will suffice.

mackster248 said:
Thanks man! Tempted to root it... But I suppose ICS will suffice.
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If it were for me, I'd root it. If for somebody I don't want to provide tech support for, I'd leave it.

Jaxidian said:
If it were for me, I'd root it. If for somebody I don't want to provide tech support for, I'd leave it.
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Lol yeah my thoughts exactly. Does it require a micro SIM or regular one?

mackster248 said:
Lol yeah my thoughts exactly. Does it require a micro SIM or regular one?
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Regular

I'm in the same boat as mackster in that I bought it on HSN and am now waiting for the shipment... on the bright side it's not for my mom.
I'm not one to spend as mush as I might on a laptop for a phone so this will be a step up from my Exhibit II 4g from two years ago. Faster processor and larger screen... I'm happy with that for $129.00
I've rooted and tried various roms on my Exhibit so I'm scannig the roms availalbe here now. If anyone has already done the heavy lifting I'm open to suggestions for your opinions on the best rom. My needs in order of importance are:
1. STABILITY
2. Battery life
3. Photos (and ability to save to external DS)
4. Bloat removal (in rom if possible)
4. Wi-Fi calling still functioning
5. Root would be nice (i have many apks)
6. Mapping (aka driving directions) works
I see many roms listing problems with the compass and the camera. I guess I would like a newer version of droid but if ICS meets all of my above needs then I'd be perfectly happy with that too.
Anyone have suggestions?

I have a feeling that you should be looking at mature ICS ROMs. I don't have the phone so I can't say for sure, but that's my gut feeling based on your requirements.

If I remember right, you might want to stay on stock ics. Wifi calling is a no-go on jb. Not sure if it's up and running on jb 4.3, but know for sure it's not on 4.1.2.
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njstein said:
If I remember right, you might want to stay on stock ics. Wifi calling is a no-go on jb. Not sure if it's up and running on jb 4.3, but know for sure it's not on 4.1.2.
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I don't think WiFi Calling has been ported to any non-stock-based JB ROMs for any devices. Definitely not available for general use.

Thanks for the replies... I don't suppose there's a bloatfree stock ROM like I had found for my Exhibit? Otherwise I guess it's time to dust off Titanium and start freezing/uninstalling bloat

gmolds said:
Thanks for the replies... I don't suppose there's a bloatfree stock ROM like I had found for my Exhibit? Otherwise I guess it's time to dust off Titanium and start freezing/uninstalling bloat
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There are several AOSP-based options. I can't vouch for the quality of them so you'll have to play with them to find out. But I'd stick with what seems like mature ICS offerings though.

Where is this thank button... I don't seem to see it.

Found it