Is it safe to update the phone when it is root?sorry for the spelling , but if you write it indifferent whether a software update from the position of the phone or disaster recovery software with ROOT? 2.3 update has come out and my O3D once landed in the service, except that if I had a root and CWM!
I just want to update your phone now and root V10b
No you must go back to your original stock rom and unroot your phone for the update to succeed and work properly.
syberka said:
Is it safe to update the phone when it is root?sorry for the spelling , but if you write it indifferent whether a software update from the position of the phone or disaster recovery software with ROOT? 2.3 update has come out and my O3D once landed in the service, except that if I had a root and CWM!
I just want to update your phone now and root V10b
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Pretty sure you can update if you have root, but not if you have CWM.
not really too sure about what you're saying, but did you just say 2.3 update has come out?
Has come out in October! I ask what I can only update with ROOT
Jak masz tylko rota to można(ja robiłem tak update), ale dla pewnościbym zrobiłbym unroot
If you have only root without CWm it is safe, but unroot is very fast
How can I remove CWM from my phone?
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I would just give it a shot - there are tutorials on how to unbrick your phone and they are relatively straight forward - lucky there are no locks on this phone so that is a good thing
So how exactly can we put the original recovery back on?
I am not encouraging anyone but in my experience I have flashed many times using LG recovery with both root and CWM without any issues.
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I am not encouraging anyone but in my experience I have flashed many times using LG recovery with both root and CWM without any issues.
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But there might be a difference between restore and update. Update should try to keep your settings and restore should intentionally overwrite just everything in /system
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But there might be a difference between restore and update. Update should try to keep your settings and restore should intentionally overwrite just everything in /system
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Personally I dont mind about settings being kept when I flash a new ROM, I start from scratch intentionally although that would not suit alot of people who would prefer to update is does not bother me. When you flash a new ROM through CWM you wipe the data prior to flash so you are not updating anyway.
Edit: Just to be clear I am not talking about updating but performing a full recovery to the latest ROM relased by your provider, I would not suggest anyone performs an update using LG tool with CWM installed.
Sorry for my slow thinking, if i do root "superoneclick" and few days later i do unroot, is my phone will be in identical state as before root?
Ie. After unroot can i giveaway my O3D to service or with clean conscience can i do update from phone menu?
Yes you can update while rooted, but you cannot update while you are running a custom rom
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Personally I dont mind about settings being kept when I flash a new ROM, I start from scratch intentionally although that would not suit alot of people who would prefer to update is does not bother me. When you flash a new ROM through CWM you wipe the data prior to flash so you are not updating anyway.
Edit: Just to be clear I am not talking about updating but performing a full recovery to the latest ROM relased by your provider, I would not suggest anyone performs an update using LG tool with CWM installed.
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Hi Kidkoala_uk,
Will the CWM removed when I reset the phone back to the factory default setting? Thanks.
kidkoala_uk said:
Edit: Just to be clear I am not talking about updating but performing a full recovery to the latest ROM relased by your provider, I would not suggest anyone performs an update using LG tool with CWM installed.
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sure .. it's just how I explain it might recovery does work with CWM and root installed (I did it twice) and update seems to brick phones (I did not try)
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RayHK said:
Hi Kidkoala_uk,
Will the CWM removed when I reset the phone back to the factory default setting? Thanks.
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No .. factory reset will not remove CWM. Factory reset = erase everything in /data (and since cache and dalvik cache are inside /data there is no need to do a wipe cache)
(full recovery using the LG tool will remove CWM)
Thank You for Your answer.
Two more question, if i can ask:
- Can I turn off "debug mode" after root?
- Is "Debug mode" use some resources, so am i speedup my phone turning off "debug mode"?
Yes u can turn off debug mode after root.
Disabling debug mode don't speed up your phone
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sure .. it's just how I explain it might recovery does work with CWM and root installed (I did it twice) and update seems to brick phones (I did not try)
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No .. factory reset will not remove CWM. Factory reset = erase everything in /data (and since cache and dalvik cache are inside /data there is no need to do a wipe cache)
(full recovery using the LG tool will remove CWM)
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Thanks edehahn.
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sure .. it's just how I explain it might recovery does work with CWM and root installed (I did it twice) and update seems to brick phones (I did not try)
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No .. factory reset will not remove CWM. Factory reset = erase everything in /data (and since cache and dalvik cache are inside /data there is no need to do a wipe cache)
(full recovery using the LG tool will remove CWM)
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Is "full recovery using the LG tool" mean emergency recovery mode which is accessed by doing what is in the attache image below?
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solved i was flashing a rom, but i guess i didn't do a wipe or something, so now my sprint evo3d won't boot. when i power up, it shows the htc logo and thats all.
i can get into recovery(TWRP) and fastboot just fine, so what do i need to flash/wipe to fix this?
rooted htc method so unlocked with s-on hboot1.50
solution if anyone has the same problem:
reflashed my previous rom then was able to boot. now i am restoring and backing up like i should have
Did you make a nandroid backup?
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nope i was that stupid
anyone? i kinda need my phone... could i flash the stock rom and kernal? or does anyone have a backup they could post or anything
3rdsurfer said:
anyone? i kinda need my phone... could i flash the stock rom and kernal? or does anyone have a backup they could post or anything
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so many people and no help... LOL! it seems that you are soft bricked! no worries, flash the same ROM you had before the one you were trying to flash and you should then be fine! make nandroid and then flash the new ROM that you wanted happy flashing
ha i just had that thought of flashing my old rom myself. thanks for the second on that idea. ill do that if the file ever feels like copying....
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so many people and no help... LOL! it seems that you are soft bricked! no worries, flash the same ROM you had before the one you were trying to flash and you should then be fine! make nandroid and then flash the new ROM that you wanted happy flashing
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oh, and i forgot: Its rare to hard brick phones by just flashing ROMs, the worse thing to get is a bootloop like you got, usually. the way to get hard bricked is to flash a bad SPL, so interupt an SPL installation or flash a ROM with SPl and install it wrong or Radio, or in some phones, deleting or flashing the recovery wrong and then soft bricking, boot loop for sure then
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3rdsurfer said:
ha i just had that thought of flashing my old rom myself. thanks for the second on that idea. ill do that if the file ever feels like copying....
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if your old rom doesnt copy, no problem just install a rom that works with your SPL and kernel and radio. damn HTC, why do they make it so hard? when i wanna flash my samsung, all i need to do is go to boot loader, fire up this program called odin, and odin does everything for me! get a samsung phone next time its better
yep that fixed it. so now my question is what was the problem? and more importantly how can i avoid this problem (yes i need to backup, i mean the brick)
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3rdsurfer said:
yep that fixed it. so now my question is what was the problem? and more importantly how can i avoid this problem (yes i need to backup, i mean the brick)
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If you're going to a new kernel, wipe the cache and dalvik cache. If you're going to a new version of the same ROM you're on, same thing unless stated otherwise. If you're going to a totally new ROM, wipe everything (obviously, minus your card) unless stated otherwise. If you're reflashing the same ROM you were on, you don't have to wipe unless you end up with a different kernel; then wipe cache and davlik cache.
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yep that fixed it. so now my question is what was the problem? and more importantly how can i avoid this problem (yes i need to backup, i mean the brick)
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I think you may have forgot to wipe data... or bad install maybe? you said you have problems copying the file... maybe bad copy?
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Product F(RED) said:
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Y U mad man? chill out
PersianSphinx said:
I think you may have forgot to wipe data... or bad install maybe? you said you have problems copying the file... maybe bad copy?
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Y U mad man? chill out
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Mad? I just gave you a straight-forward answer lol. I wasn't angry at all.
OH LOL I see. I somehow got the angry emote in there.
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If you're going to a new kernel, wipe the cache and dalvik cache. If you're going to a new version of the same ROM you're on, same thing unless stated otherwise. If you're going to a totally new ROM, wipe everything (obviously, minus your card) unless stated otherwise. If you're reflashing the same ROM you were on, you don't have to wipe unless you end up with a different kernel; then wipe cache and davlik cache.
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i knew about the dalvik and cache, but what else do i need to wipe if i am switching roms? or do i wipe everything then backup what i need?
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i knew about the dalvik and cache, but what else do i need to wipe if i am switching roms? or do i wipe everything then backup what i need?
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well im not 100% sure about your phone, but in the G1 forum the devs suggest a complete /system wipe... also factory reset before and after flashing is a very good idea
ok thanks all i'll do all that from now on.
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i knew about the dalvik and cache, but what else do i need to wipe if i am switching roms? or do i wipe everything then backup what i need?
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If you're switching ROMs and you wanna be able to get everything back exactly like it was, use Nandroid to backup/restore. It takes a full backup of everything in your phone's memory: The ROM, the apps and their data, etc.
If you want to be able to backup and restore apps and data between different ROMs, use Titanium Backup. But be careful because in some cases restoring app data on 2 ROMs with different bases can cause the ROM to act funky.
Hey Guys Sorry I am New Here But I rooted My Phone And I wanted to install a rom Cyan engine mod thru rom manager and When i did I soft Bricked My phone In the verizon yellow screen But then i rooted it to The stock rom but i am still rooted some how , How do i get a new rom ?
Download a rom of your choice from one of the sgs3 development threads, copy it to your ext sd card, reboot into recovery, wipe phone, clear caches, install rom, install happened (if needed), wipe caches, reboot, let sit.
Thaw the jist of it. If you need a more detailed version, there are threads that walk you through it.
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Are you unlocked and have a custom recovery?
If you want to install a ROM you have to first download the correct ROM for whatever phone you have and put it where you won't forget it. Then you need to go into recovery mode and do a factory data reset then wipe your cache and last you need to wipe your dalvik cache which is found in the advanced options. Then you click install zip and the you find the ROM and install it. If it has the aroma installer just follow the instructions given. After that just restart your phone. The first time you boot up your phone takes a minute so don't get worried.
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You mentioned that you are rooted, but have you also flashed a custom recovery? The easiest way to flash custom ROMs, at least in my experience, is definitely through the use of recovery.
Once the recovery is installed, simply download the ROM in .zip format, move it over to your phone's SD card, then flash away. The steps vary a little, but for CWM, the steps are generally:
Wipe data;
Wipe cache;
Wipe Dalvik;
Flash ROM;
Flash gapps;
At this point, I usually wipe the cache and Dalvik again; redundant, yes, but eh.
There are other ways too, but I am only familiar with this method. I imagine you could always flash ROMs via Odin, but I feel like that would be a lot more complicated for a newer user.
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lvgdgts said:
Are you unlocked and have a custom recovery?
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Forgot; also ensure that your boot loader is unlocked. There is actually an app for it in the Play Store. Search for VZW GS3 EZ-Unlock on the forums. It's also on the Play Store, but I can't seem to find a link anywhere. Pretty much all you have to do is click "Unlock," and you'll be good to go.
MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS PRIOR TO FLASHING ANYTHING. You mentioned you were stuck at the Yellow Triangle in your post. One of the reasons for this includes forgetting to unlock your bootloader prior to flashing custom firmware (AKA Cyanogen Mod).
Make sure you unlock your bootloader. Download EZ Unlocker
^ make sure you have downloaded ez unlock first and then grab the latest recovery
need help with synergy rom
I just installed the new synergy rom latest version and it works pretty flawlessly except I cant turn my wifi on...this is a bother indeed. Any ideas jow to my that work cuz other than that one glitch it is amazing.
Not really sure how bad it is but here's what I did
Last night I got an update notice for cm-10.2-20131102-SNAPSHOT-M1-i9300.zip I decided to install it.
Install went great. I went to sleep
Woke up I realized it was really unstable my phone would restart, applications would crash decided to go back to my old rom.
I went to software update and I ran 10.1.3 and my phone was stuck at the loading screen.
I then decided to take out the battery and use a backup to restore to Samsung's Touchwiz I did that.
I then used MOBILE ODIN to flash 9.1.0 worked fine so I decided to try and flash 10.1.3 back on it with MOBILE ODIN but the version of mobile odin was really old and it didn't work and now my phone is just a black screen unless I go into CWM.
So now I'm stuck in ClockworkMod and it says I have no backups to restore to...
I found the backups
/sdcard/0/clockworkmod/backup/
but when I press restore it says no files found.
You can download a rom on your computer put it on your sdcard then flash it in recovery. Just make sure the rom is for your model of phone. If you have a verizon phone you do not want to flash the i9300 file again you are lucky your phone even turns on.
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jhoutz said:
You can download a rom on your computer put it on your sdcard then flash it in recovery. Just make sure the rom is for your model of phone. If you have a verizon phone you do not want to flash the i9300 file again you are lucky your phone even turns on.
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I have an i9300 phone international version... oh god I just realized I'm in the verizon section. How do I flash with CWM? Because I already have a 9.1.0 cyanogenmod rom in my phone.
iaxx23 said:
I have an i9300 phone international version... oh god I just realized I'm in the verizon section. How do I flash with CWM? Because I already have a 9.1.0 cyanogenmod rom in my phone.
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First do a full wipe. Meaning format data, system, cache, and dalvik cache. The go to install, find your zip and go. Also with cm you prolly need to install the gapps too.
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First do a full wipe. Meaning format data, system, cache, and dalvik cache. The go to install, find your zip and go. Also with cm you prolly need to install the gapps too.
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Thank you so much. I was pretty scared... I heard the word brick like 3-4 times today I was about to lose my ****.
Thanks a lot!
i just did this myself and although i don't remember setting a password at all on TWRP, it's asking me one and i have no idea what it is. This is not allowing me to access data folder, sd card and such.
Can someone help me please?
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well, if i didn't type anything at all and cancel the password request, it seem to get by fine.
i was able to delete data and mount sd card.
my initial problem was that i kept trying passwords and getting errors, and then canceling the request.
Problem Solved.
You will just download a custom rom and install it with full wipe or use odin if you want to go back to original stock rom. It's just a softbrick, at least you can go to Clockworkmod Recovery, you can still recover your dead cellphone unlike to hardbrick which will go to a very complicated steps.
Hello, this is probably a stupid question but I have custom kernel and some other tweaks to my 4.4.2 N5 so OTA will fail.
Since I don't want to wipe my device (nor wait for the OTA) could I just download 4.4.3 images and flash 4.4.3 /system and /boot to my device without wiping it?
Or do I have to flash 4.4.2 image and then flash the OTA via recovery?
DarknessWarrior said:
Hello, this is probably a stupid question but I have custom kernel and some other tweaks to my 4.4.2 N5 so OTA will fail.
Since I don't want to wipe my device (nor wait for the OTA) could I just download 4.4.3 images and flash 4.4.3 /system and /boot to my device without wiping it?
Or do I have to flash 4.4.2 image and then flash the OTA via recovery?
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You can (i did as well) but any tweaks to system files etc will be overwritten and it will go to stock kernel.
to do this. follow the directions at the below link. the step about changing the flash-all file is crucial as if you don't do that then it will wipe your data as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...riants-of-nexus-7-2012-and-2013-and-nexus-10/
y2whisper said:
You can (i did as well) but any tweaks to system files etc will be overwritten and it will go to stock kernel.
to do this. follow the directions at the below link. the step about changing the flash-all file is crucial as if you don't do that then it will wipe your data as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...riants-of-nexus-7-2012-and-2013-and-nexus-10/
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Thank you. I don't really care about the tweaks and the kernel I'll flash later, I just don't want to wipe and have to reinstall/reconfigure everything.
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Hello, this is probably a stupid question but I have custom kernel and some other tweaks to my 4.4.2 N5 so OTA will fail.
Since I don't want to wipe my device (nor wait for the OTA) could I just download 4.4.3 images and flash 4.4.3 /system and /boot to my device without wiping it?
Or do I have to flash 4.4.2 image and then flash the OTA via recovery?
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Because I've also modified too many system files I usually open up the factory image and pull the images I need and flash those, or you could flash the boot and system images from 4.4.2 and do the OTA. For the update to 4.4.3 you would need the boot, radio and system images. The bootloader image stayed the same. Scenario 2 in this link will show what I'm talking about. Really only takes a few minutes. ; )
Wanted to add that at the end instead of doing fastboot reboot I would unplug your phone and use your volume and power button to get into recovery and flash the supersu zip.
Updated my N5 and N7 Monday night and everything is working well!
Not a great idea
Most likely you'll wind up with issues from the dirty flash and have to reset the device anyway in my experience.
I tried flashing 4.4.3 I'm on stock rooted but it won't install when trying to flash gives me a error status 7. Anyone please help!
Dirty flashing a new android version is a bad idea. In my opinion.
Clean flash.
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Maybe they tweaked location services to not suck so much juice.
I always toggle it off. Will have to try it on after I update.
Clean flash only for a new version has always been the golden rule!
Lol, what? Clean flash only if you're switching ROMs. If you're on the factory rom, flashing a factory image is perfectly fine. I've upgraded 4 different devices through many versions of Android with out a single issue.
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Clean flash only for a new version has always been the golden rule!
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Completely agree. Regardless of how many problems other people haven't had. The exact same principles apply as custom ROMs. Legacy data and settings can interfere between versions so I would always recommend a wipe, at least before reporting any "bugs"
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GldRush98 said:
Lol, what? Clean flash only if you're switching ROMs. If you're on the factory rom, flashing a factory image is perfectly fine. I've upgraded 4 different devices through many versions of Android with out a single issue.
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Many can't say the same. Clean flashing the firmware is always better than dirty flashing or updating by OTA.
Yup
Hi guys, can somebody help me? I received the stagefright update this morning and after downloading it and rebooting, the phone stopped working. It shows the logo animation for a few seconds then the screen goes black. It's a rooted and unlocked phone so i don't know if thats the cause. Also, i can access the recovery mode pressing power and down. Other than that nothing.
If you were rooted and updated ya..the rooting may be the reason
So as you can access the bootloader just flash the stock rom back and you will be done with it..
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So as you can access the bootloader just flash the stock rom back and you will be done with it..
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I always forget how peacefull people with knowledge can be. Thanks mate, will do that.
But, just for curiosity: rooted phones tends to have problems after updates?
Yes It may get error or Somthing Else Thats Why I prefer if a update is avaiable flash back to stock and then proceed
Just a quick update. Flashed stock, worked fine. Thanks all.
Also, sorry for posting under general, i was so worried that i forgot to put this under HELP TROUBLESHOOTING.
Also, if I went there before i would find this thread here with the same problem and solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/ota-caused-boot-loop-t3202322/
Thanks all again.
reinaldojr said:
Just a quick update. Flashed stock, worked fine. Thanks all.
Also, sorry for posting under general, i was so worried that i forgot to put this under HELP TROUBLESHOOTING.
Also, if I went there before i would find this thread here with the same problem and solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/ota-caused-boot-loop-t3202322/
Thanks all again.
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Mod will move or merge.
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Technically, it should not install at all if it's been rooted. It's interesting that Moto has let this slip by.
In the future, if you have made a single change in the system partition...root, build.prop edit....anything...even custom recovery or kernel...you should reflash your current factory image, reboot, then flash your updated factory image. It's VERY IMPORTANT you reboot between flashing one factory image and the next, though. You may have more issues if you don't.
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Technically, it should not install at all if it's been rooted. It's interesting that Moto has let this slip by.
In the future, if you have made a single change in the system partition...root, build.prop edit....anything...even custom recovery or kernel...you should reflash your current factory image, reboot, then flash your updated factory image. It's VERY IMPORTANT you reboot between flashing one factory image and the next, though. You may have more issues if you don't.
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Hello HP429; reflashin full factory image would effectively wipe phone
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Hello HP429; reflashin full factory image would effectively wipe phone
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Not if you only flash the system, boot and recovery image files
Recover the factory
I did the update and as mentioned previously on the thread stales after the logo. (bootloader is unlocked)
I can not find my oem backup. I tried twrp on recovery and was able to backup other stuff. Is there a way to generate the OEM so that i can flash or any other roms that are compatible with Moto G 3rd generation?
Try wiping cache, dalvik cache and data with TWRP. Don't use stock recovery for the data wipe or you will lose all the files stored on your internal partition, as well.