Samsung phone choices...I need clarity - General Topics

I am about to sell my Dell Streak and three replacements seem to be coming out very shortly.
Samsung Hercules
Samsung Galaxy SII HD
Samsung Note
Right now I am confused on the release dates of each of these items and availability to T-Mobile users. I don't want to get involved in another ATT propriety phone that will have bandwidth issues. Long of it short, when are the release dates on the last two phones, and what are the bandwidths that will be available? Is pricing available on the last two also?

Samsung Galaxy S2 (Hercules) model is true Quad x Quad band
Quad band 2G (Voice/EDGE) + Quad band 3G/4G
so you can really go any where, any network and enjoy both voice and internet at high speed
that is the one coming out Oct 12 at T-mobiles USA for $230, and possibly unlocked with some luck
the Galaxy Note is due out in November sometimes, the phone is gigantic, 5.6" not sure if you want that, might as well get a tablet if it was me.
Samsung Galaxy S2 HD is only going to be release to Korea soon, no words when it will be available in the rest of the world

AllGamer said:
Samsung Galaxy S2 (Hercules) model is true Quad x Quad band
Quad band 2G (Voice/EDGE) + Quad band 3G/4G
so you can really go any where, any network and enjoy both voice and internet at high speed
that is the one coming out Oct 12 at T-mobiles USA for $230, and possibly unlocked with some luck
the Galaxy Note is due out in November sometimes, the phone is gigantic, 5.6" not sure if you want that, might as well get a tablet if it was me.
Samsung Galaxy S2 HD is only going to be release to Korea soon, no words when it will be available in the rest of the world
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I knew the Hercules would be a non-issue phone, but I wanna make sure I am getting the best phone for me.
Will the Note be available on T-Mobile bands? The size doesn't bother me, it is similar to a Dell Streak's dimensions and I believe even lighter in weight.

I m also a bit confused on the processor difference between the SII versions and apparently the Hercules has an oddball processor? Is this of real consequence or more nit picking?

it's the latter, people are just nit picking, and being biased by some synthetic bench scores
as for the Note, they have not yet released enough Tech Spec details to indicate the network type
I'm considering getting a note as well, it has its merits for its size, and screen resolution.
makes good for work, without carrying a heavy or large tablet/laptop with you

I think you should go for galaxy S II, its quite cool..

Best decision for you - sony ericsson

Let me make it more complicated for you!!
Samsung has recently announced new generation of Exynos 4212. It uses 32nm fab process and they claim that 50% increase in 3D graphics performance. Has to be more power efficient. No real time tests done yet obviously, but I think we can trust Samsung on hardware internals. They gave 2 stunning SoCs in GS and GS2. Not sure which phone(s) will have this internals.
Add to this they introduced 20nm fab for DDR3 RAM.
Over that add new camera modules. 1/2.3-inch 16 MP CMOS sensor with backside illumination. 1/2.3 should be same like normal point-n-shoot cams. This they claim can shoot 60fps video at 8MP.
No idea which phones will have those. Sure GS3 will have the cam module and DDR. Not too sure about SoC as they are in-line to pump out Q-Core with Mali-T604 GPU.
Choose your poison.

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Nexus Prime

Anyone selling up to get the Nexus Prime? I think I will. Hopefully they've ironed out the little faults with the S2.
I am, if there is expandable memory, and and not the 5m camera but 8m. Love the teaser shots so far and really like the curve screen. I would have the nexus s right now if it had a bigger memory.
It would be nice and I am tempted but I don't think I could cope with vanilla android even if it is ics.
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if it has
8m camera \ 2m
a gpu powerful than PowerVR SGX543MP2 (apple a5)
sdcard slot
I will change my galaxy s2
Here are the most accurate specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/possible_specs_of_the_nexus_prime_surface-news-3237.php
Update: A new batch of rumored specs have surfaced over on GSM Arena, and these seem to be more in line with what we'd expect of a new Nexus. According to an anonymous Google employee, that 4.65-inch Super AMOLED HD display mentioned above is just about the only spec to make the final cut. The processor, however, is more likely to be a dual-core 1.5GHz Exynos (that's right) with an accompanying dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2 graphics chip. That rear facing camera? Try 8 megapixels with a newly beefed up sensor. The handset should also ship with a girthy 2,050mAh battery fully capable of juicing this apparent LTE / CDMA / GSM Android monster.
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I think the Galaxy S III will be vaguely similar and get a release around February so I might just wait for that. Got a while to go until my contract finishes and perfectly happy with my SGS2 right now.
I'm considering it. Pretty happy with my Galaxy S but that Nexus sure is tempting, for one it looks so sexy.
If it has the rumoured tablet dock I'm definitely sold.

Galaxy Nexus vs Galaxy S2/LTE/HD - What to choose...

I know there is a couple threads on here and a few other places but they seem to get side tracked very quick battling between specific features, and most of these threads are in one of the phones sections making the people disusing usually a little bias.
Little info on me. Currently own a samsung captivate (i9000 variant), running cm9 and devil kernel thanks to the amazing dev's here. I've loved all the roms and modification that can be done to this phone.
Now I'm looking into getting a bit newer phone (but mostly likely it will be a used phone)
I really like a phone that is supported by the community here, as they are the ones who bring the latest and greatest.
Keep in mind what is important to me is screen, camera and browsing speeds. Not in that order. And don't care about storage space or gaming.
So the phones I have been looking into are:
Galaxy Nexus - i9250 (TI OMAP 4460, Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9, PowerVR SGX540)
Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE - i9210 (international?) i727 Skyrocket (AT&T) / i727R (Rogers) (Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon,Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion,Adreno 220)
Samsung Galaxy S2 - i9100 (international) / i777 (AT&T) (Exynos C210, Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9,Mali-400MP)
Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE HD - E120S (Qualcomm MSM8660 Snapdragon,Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion,Adreno 220)
Basically the between the Nexus and the GS2 but there is so many GS2 variants. I worried if I get a variant then there is less community support for it. Does the Nexus perform better due to all of the code being optimized by google? I would like the speeds of LTE but is it much of a difference? (I plan to go to a store and use an HSPDA phone vs a LTE phone) but it would have to be a GS2 variant.
Galaxy Nexus Pros:
Screen
Supported by google (but that doesn't mean to much with xda supporting the GS2 phones)
GS2 Pros:
Camera? (Supposed to be better at low light and video)
SD Card slot (tho this isn't really a big deal to me at all)
So not taking into account chipset or CPU:
Nexus vs GS2:
Nexus better screen
GS2 better camera
Nexus vs GS2 LTE:
Nexus better screen
GS2 better camera and faster internet
Nexus vs GS2 LTE HD:
Nexus - nothing better?
GS2 - better camera, better screen/equivalent, faster internet (but also higher priced and less common)
Does the CPU manufacturer and/or chipset/GPU make a big impact in performance? I seem to be reading it does but it sounds like opinion not fact when I've read it....
I've been wondering also how the GS2 LTE HD stacks up to the GS3 dual core version, as they have similar specs. Looks like the S3 just has a little bigger screen and a bit better battery life, due to slightly newer Snapdragon CPU.
The Nexus will /always/ have better support from developers than anything else. Nexus phones are incredibly popular and draw huge crowds.
That said, the S2 is also a very popular phone with arguably the second best community support behind it next to the Nexus.
My suggestion would be to go with the Nexus phone simply because you'll get it direct from Google. It's a much more fluid experience. Samsung's custom software is quite a pain, and even if you decide to run custom software on the phone, there are always going to be some aspects (like hardware keys) that don't match Google's current specifications. I'm telling you this as a current AT&T Galaxy Note user, which has the same hardware as the S2 Skyrocket.

After tearing open the iphone 5, the SGS3 Wins!

Wasnt sure where to post this, but I wanted everyone to see what we all already knew
iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S3: S3 Declared Victor
1 day ago by Mike Johnson
The Samsung Galaxy S3 has been out since May and recently met its biggest rival, the iPhone 5. The comparisons and reviews – and even some teardowns – are flying. So let’s have a crack at it too.
iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S3
Because Apple is famously reticent about internals like clock speeds, RAM and processors, teardowns are necessary to see if the facts stand up to the Apple hype. So the following details aren’t coming directly from Apple’s specs sheet but what the top tech testers are discovering about the iPhone 5 after some “dissections”.
So, let’s begin. The phones, as we can see from sales figures, are hugely popular. The iPhone 5 got more than five million pre-orders in its first three days, and Samsung expects to have sold 30 million Galaxy S3 units by the end of the year.
Dimensions: The iPhone 5 is 123.8×58.6×7.6mm and 112g in weight. The Samsung Galaxy S3 is 136.6×70.6×8.6mm and weighs 133g. Ignoring sizes, as the two phones have such different screens, the iPhone 5 wins out on weight and thickness as this is how things work in the world of portable consumer electronics. One point to Apple.
Screens: The iPhone 5 has a 4”, 1,136x640p resolution screen that’s LED, IPS and TFT. It’s housed in Gorilla Glass. The Samsung Galaxy S3 has a 4.8” 1,280x720p Super AMOLED screen that’s protected by Gorilla Glass 2. The iPhone 5 is easier to handle with one hand, but the S3 is way better for browsing and films, so it’s a draw here. However according to the folks over at DisplayMate, the S3 deserves an extra point as its display is more “high tech” than the iPhone 5. The S3 shows the full gamut of NTSC versus only 72 percent in the case of the iPhone 5. Advantage: Samsung.
Connectivity: The iPhone 5 has 3G, 4G LTE, Wi-Fi Hotspot, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi 802. It also has that proprietary Lightning dock that you’ll just love to spend $30 on a new connector for.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 has the same connectivity of the iPhone 5 but also has Wi-Fi Direct, NFC, Wireless Charging and DNLA There’s also a “one size fits all” microUSB cable, which means you can borrow a mate’s cable regardless of the smartphone he or she has. Winner: Samsung Galaxy S3
Memory/storage: Both have 1GB of RAM, along with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal storage. However, the Samsung Galaxy S3 wins by a mile with its up-to-64GB of microSD memory expansion. The US Samsung Galaxy S3 also has 2GB of RAM so that is another point to note. Winner: S3
Processor: While Apple won’t reveal the architecture or frequency of the chipset, it looks, thanks to tests, that it’s based on two Apple ARMv7 cores (making it somewhere between A9 and A15). The frequency can go up to 1.3GHz but generally sits at 1.06GHz, and its A6 chip is helped along by a triple-core PowerVR SGX 543MP3.
We know for a fact that the Samsung Galaxy S3 has a 1.4GHz Exynos 4412 chip with four Cortex A9 cores (international model), and the graphics is handled by a Mali-400MP GPU. There’s no contest here, although Apple fans will insist that iOS doesn’t need four cores. However, for multitasking, games and apps, the S3 should perform better (on paper at least). As for the US version of the S3, it boasts a higher clocked 1.5GHz dual-core processor. It may be short of 2 cores but it gets a 2GB dose of RAM to give it that extra kick. Winner: Samsung Galaxy S3
Camera: The pair are on a par here, with 8MP cameras with LED flash, simultaneous HD video and still capture, autofocus, touch focus, face detection, geo-tagging and image stabilisation. The Samsung Galaxy S3 has smile detection, but this doesn’t beat the iPhone 5 BSI sensor. User tests say that the iPhone 5 takes better photos in low light. One point for the iPhone 5.
Battery: The iPhone 5 has a Li-Ion 1,440mAh battery that’ll give up to eight hours of talk on 3G. The Samsung Galaxy S3 has a 2,100mAh battery that gives almost 12 hours on 3G. However when it comes to real life, though, users are reporting that the iPhone 5 does live up to its specs sheet but the Samsung Galaxy S3, despite its bigger battery, can’t lay claim to more as it tops out at around 8 hours as well. So it’s another tie here.
Operating system & apps: OSs are hard to compare fairly. There’s always going to be friction between iOS and Android because it’s a matter of taste more than anything else. If you like customizing the heck out of phones, go for Android, but if you prefer something streamlined out of the box and all you want to swap is ringtones and wallpapers, chose iOS.
The iPhone 5 has the advantage of being pre-loaded with iOS 6, whereas the Samsung Galaxy S3 is still waiting for Jelly Bean in most areas though. So while we can’t compare iOS and Android, we can say that in having the latest update and its features, the iPhone 5 has an advantage over the Samsung Galaxy S3.
iOS 6 might have Facebook integration, but Android ICS gives you the same integration with every app you care to install, like Google+, Facebook, Instagram, Picasa and Imgur.
Apple Maps has become the whipping boy of the year, whereas the S3 and TouchWiz have nifty features like Palm Swipe, Direct Call, Pop-up-Play and Smart Alert. I also found Siri to be better than S-Voice, but this could all change as soon as Jelly Bean brings Google Now. Then there is Google Maps of course which is preloaded in the Winner: iPhone 5. Taking all this into account, we’ll have to call it a draw again.
Design: The iPhone 5 wins hands down. Sure, there’s no great redesign, so it’s still as classy as ever, only lighter and slimmer. Samsung used a slightly more expensive looking plastic for the S3 than it had before, but it still looks gaudy. Advantage iPhone 5.
Conclusion: The Winner: The SGS3 gets four points and the iPhone 5 gets three. The S3 got its points for display, memory, connectivity and processor. The iPhone 5 won on camera, design and dimensions. The phones drew on battery life and OS.
no surprise here.
I'm pretty sure that the iPhone gpu and CPU are more powerful. Having more cores barely means anything because most smart phone task aren't multi threaded like computer tasks. With gaming unless you have a tegra 3 quad core there are sadly no games that take advantage of the quad core exynos 4412 or the s4 pro. IPhone gaming will definitely be better also because it gets so much attention cuz its the only iOS phone
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Anyone else want to speculate on the Samsung Galaxy S IV?

Just a harmless conversation based on what the next Samsung flagship phone might receive based on trends of the mobile industry. You can offer your own opinions and/or critiques.
With the Nexus 4, sporting a very powerful S4 Snapdragon quad processor, 320 Adreno GPU, 2 GB of RAM and the standard HD display, it's sure to be the strongest thing we have until the HTC Butterfly (now dubbed the HTC DNA) comes (reportedly to Verizon) sporting a 1080p screen, probably the same processor and RAM, as well as a bigger battery.
It's clear that the competition within the Android ecosystem isn't as monopolized by Samsung like it was a year or two ago - at least in terms of quality products. The Galaxy S II stayed not only as the top Android phone, but the top phone period for almost a whole year. It seems that HTC and LG have stepped up their game and are putting out functioning, competitive products. The Galaxy S III kind of fell off the performance radar within 4-5 months. (comparatively speaking)
Samsung has been reportedly testing 3 GB RAM on experiment phone models; if that made it to the final product of the GSIV, that would make it a trend-setter in that regard. It's also going to come with the new-generation 13 megapixel camera module, which is slated to desolate any popular 8 MP camera shooters on the market - such as the HTC One X, Galaxy S III (the worst of the bunch on the front-facing camera) or iPhone 5 with its color-reproduction and low-light performance.
As for the processor, I hope they throw in the ultra-powerful Exynos 5450 (the Cortex-A15 quad-core) rated at around 2 GHz, it will absolutely eat the already unbelievably fast S4 Krait quad in the upcoming megaphones for breakfast. The Mali-658 GPU from the aforementioned would probably also be on par, if not better than that in the iPad 4's A6X's GPU. Last but not least, anyone else hoping we'll see a beautiful Super AMOLED HD Plus display (or whatever they'll call it) with full 1080p?
All of these rumors and speculation sound reasonable at this point, given what we've been seeing in the market place. If it all turned out to be true, the Galaxy S IV would be leaps and bounds above any smartphone upon its release and maybe easily throughout the year subsequent to its release. I'm actually excited that the competition within Android is picking up steam. The harder these companies compete against each other, the more us, as consumers win.
In the next generation phones, most of them would be compatible with nfc payments, like Google wallet or isis.
I expect faster processor and a minimum of 2 gb of ram.
Most likely, every phone will come in different screen sizes. So you can choose a particular phone with your choice of screen size.
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2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
deaddrg said:
2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
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Why would they use Tegra 3 chips - which are only Cortex-A9's and the fact that Samsung develops their own chipset means they would opt for their own before another chipset commonly found in its competitors.
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2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
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Mhmmm future
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Why would they use Tegra 3 chips - which are only Cortex-A9's and the fact that Samsung develops their own chipset means they would opt for their own before another chipset commonly found in its competitors.
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I sure hope they don't use the tegra chipset. That'll make them depend on nVidia for updates.
more batery life
It's great that a lot of attention is put into adding better specs (RAM, CPU, features like NFC, etc), but my biggest concern is that they' don't pay enough attention to battery life. I don't understand why they don't invest more in this field.
Here's to hoping that Samsung will care more about this and innovate in this area.

My prediction....

From my knowledge of the past and the way I see Samsung sale strategy, I think this is what will happen:
First:
Release of I9505 (Snapdragon, LTE)
My theory is that the Snapdragon SOC is cheaper for Samsung then their own SOC
Remember: Samsung is the biggest chip PRODUCER and BUYER. In other words, Samsung is the biggest seller of chips and at the same time the biggest seller of chips of other producers.
after that
Second:
Release of I9500 (Exynos 5, No LTE)
This will be released in markets without LTE (at least in the beginning, maybe to all later).
The Exynos 5 without Qualcomm LTE chip is better then the I9505 because the Exynos 5 is "big.Little, 2 x 4 core".
I9505 = "1 x 4 core"
after some time
Third:
Release of I95xx (Exynos 5, LTE)
This will be released in markets WITH LTE.
After everyone bought one of the previous 2 versions, here they come with a better one, a Exynos 5 "big.Little, 2 x 4 core" with Qualcomm LTE chip.
A hardcore early adopter would have to buy first device 1 and/or device 2, then device 3 to always have the best device.
A sales explosion for Samsung Electronics, all with the same name "Galaxy S 4".
I think this is what their marketing team is planing. We will see.
The "cheaper" argument for S-600 over Octa doesn't really apply because all the tear downs are using fair market value (MSRP) in their estimates. Octa at $30 cost's Samsung probably about $10-15 to produce. So the difference between their cost and the $20 they pay Qualcomm for S-600 is profit to another Samsung division which, in their consolidated financials, all nets out to more overall profit for Samsung on the whole. That's one of the reasons Samsung uses their own internals whenever possible and why they are so profitable.
Both Octa and S-600 could use whatever HSPA or LTE modem Samsung decides on as they both don't use imbedded radios. So LTE vs. HSPA shouldn't affect Samsung's costs based on which SoC they use. Samsung's already said they plan on selling 10MM SGS4's a month and already know financially what percentage are going to be LTE vs. HSPA and what it'll mean to their financials. They'll lose more profit on QC issues from assembly line rejects in the first 30 days of ramp-up than a year's worth of cost difference between HSPA and LTE phones.
The missing link is component availability. Based on the massive quantities of chips and radios Samsung needs availability could affect what's built first and where it's sent. It could also mean a change sometime during the year (Octa/RF360 replacing S-600/LTE). And other than rumors and guesses we'd have no idea what's going on behind the scenes if component availability or some unannounced future direction is driving their current production decisions.
It’s fun to speculate though.
Oh wow, thanks for sharing that pattern. I wonder if you might be right....

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