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I have a big question that is been floating around in my mind.
We have CM7 which is based on ginngerbread and we got Eagle blood 1.03 which is gingerbread as well.
Why does it seems like eagle blood developers seems to develop way faster and have a more stable rom than CM7?
Is it because they had to port gingerbread to the G2x? If that its the case, wouldn't it be easier to grab the gingerbread leak and develop using that as the source?
eagle blood is from gingerbread leak and cyanogen isn't?
Also does it takes longer for CM7 to develop because they are adding more features to the ROM?
The reason I'm asking is because I had this questions and is nothing against CM7 directly at all, I just want to understand how they are doing it and see the benefits.
Thanks
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Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak with added tweaks.
Cyanodenmod is build completely from the ground up using the AOSP source code. It has features not found in ROMs released by manufacturers.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak.
Cyanodenmod is build from the ground up using the AOSP source code.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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That clears up some of my doubts.
So basically they are using a gingerbread AOSP from google?
And what are the advantages of doing it this way instead of just grabbing a leaked ROM and tweak it.
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Once they get the device-specific stuff ironed out, feature updates can be added easily across multiple devices.
For example, if you look at the CM7 changelog the unlabeled changes are to all GB devices and the entries labeled "p999" are changes specific to this device.
moshe22 said:
That clears up some of my doubts.
So basically they are using a gingerbread AOSP from google?
And what are the advantages of doing it this way instead of just grabbing a leaked ROM and tweak it.
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Better performance. Manufactures ROMs often end up with bad coding which results in a device suffering from things such as bad battery life, lower performance, etc. Also with official ROMs you can't do much with it until they release the source code. And even then (at least with samsung) some things like driver source never get released which means the devs cant fully optimize the ROM. AOSP means full control over the ROM to make it do what you want it to do the way you want it to be done. It does take much longer to complete though which is why CM has nightly updates. Makes it easier to put out a nightly than to put out a whole new ROM for every bug they fix. I'm sure someone can explain this better than me.
r4d14n7 said:
For example, if you look at the CM7 changelog the unlabeled changes are to all GB devices and the entries labeled "p999" are changes specific to this device.
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Oh good to know, thanks
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Better performance. Manufactures ROMs often end up with bad coding which results in a device suffering from things such as bad battery life, lower performance, etc. Also with official ROMs you can't do much with it until they release the source code. And even then (at least with samsung) some things like driver source never get released which means the devs cant fully optimize the ROM. AOSP means full control over the ROM to make it do what you want it to do the way you want it to be done. It does take much longer to complete though which is why CM has nightly updates. Makes it easier to put out a nightly than to put out a whole new ROM for every bug they fix. I'm sure someone can explain this better than me.
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Wow, this really answers my question as to why it takes them longer. Thanks
So it means that cyanogen even develop their own drivers?
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You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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I must disagree. I LOVE CM 7 and ran build 11 and 13 and found it rather buggy right now. Sometimes the touch screen didn't recognize touches on the right side(I consider this a significant bug). When you call a number and have to punch in numbers (like a VM password or when dialing an extension) did not work for me(which I consider another significant bug). I also heard there are issues with it sticking APN settings(cant comment because I didnt really check that when I had cm 7 installed) I just dont think cm 7 is stable enough at the moment. Eagle Blood is running pretty well right now. I would say a lot better than cm 7 but that will change once CM gets the bugs worked out
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You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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Yes, personal experience. Been running eb 1.02 and is been great.
I Just flashed CM7 #15 just to test it out and is buggy for me
-When i receive a call i don't get any sound from the ringer even though is not muted
-Sensors are like in auto brightness even though they are not
-The performance of the whole system isn't the best.
I am sure it will be the best ROM out there but as for now still only and nightly and is buggy
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One significant difference for me, which is due to the fact that Cyanogen has built their own rom with their different bluetooth stacks (as opposed to LG's custom ones), is that bluetooth controllers actually work with CM7. Useful for using a wiimote on emulators through HDMI
Just something to consider, no bluetooth controllers on EB.
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regP said:
Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak with added tweaks.
Cyanodenmod is build completely from the ground up using the AOSP source code. It has features not found in ROMs released by manufacturers.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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Right, and not only that, cyanogen has many different phones he and his dev team have to work on.
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Build #16 is out today and supposedly the TouchTones in the dialer and the backlight is fixed (thank god!)
But yes. Cyanogen builds their own kernel and drivers, which is why it usually is more compatible with stuff like WiiMotes and stuff. But once they get the Kernel working properly (which they are doing now) it is just a matter of updating the core OS then it can be pushed to all devices pretty seamlessly (I guess).
There are lots of benefits of using CM over standard stock Gingerbread. For one, Stock is 2.3.3 where CM7 is 2.3.4 so it supports lots of Googles new apps like Video in Google Talk and the new Cloud Music player.
Also there are tons of tweaks like Notification menu toggles, System Themes, Sound Profiles, Black-List calling, Several Lockscreen types and Widgets with Gesture support, etc the list goes on and on.
Between the Notification Toggles and Themes which you can install from the market, I'm hooked.
Plus it is the only Gingerbread rom that doesn't cause my phone to lockup/reset/Black Screen of Death/whateveryoucallit
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You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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It has tons of bugs like inaccurate battery readings
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my concern is that is the g2x able to do 1080p video recording and high resolution picture like the stock rom? THis is the only reson why I'm still sticking with the stock rom.
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CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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u must be high
jdaclutch said:
my concern is that is the g2x able to do 1080p video recording and high resolution picture like the stock rom? THis is the only reson why I'm still sticking with the stock rom.
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+1. I take a lot of photos and videos of my kids and would rather stick with 2.2 than have a gimped camera.
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+1. I take a lot of photos and videos of my kids and would rather stick with 2.2 than have a gimped camera.
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Yeah, i take alot of pictures and videos too
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I'm looking for the most customizable custom ROM. Cyanogen Mod 7 is always good (I think at least), but I also read something about Super AOSP. According to the big rom and kernel guide at the development section, it has supsetup which lets you customize every aspect of the ROM, which sounds like exactly what I want. If someone can explain what supsetup really is, that would be cool.
But I've also read that Super AOSP isn't getting updates anymore. Apparently there will be a new ROM in the (near?) future named Super OSR.
I've also read that Super AOSP isn't based on CM7, or at least very little. So what's better in terms of customizability? A ROM based on CM7 (or CM7 itself of course), or a ROM based on AOSP?
Choose any ROM and put SPB Shell on it.
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Choose any ROM and put SPB Shell on it.
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Too simple. Besides, I want it to be unique.
That's why I don't want MIUI. While it's themable, it's not really flexible.
And you only read my 'different homescreen' part. Please read my whole thread before commenting.
I would suggest CM 7 Nightly, but they have new updates alot. So if you want it to be a more constant stableness, check out the CM7 RC build. I read it almost ready for a full release, as far as being stable. Might want to check out the matrix kernal for CM 7 also, its pretty sweet.
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pierre1321 said:
I would suggest CM 7 Nightly, but they have new updates alot. So if you want it to be a more constant stableness, check out the CM7 RC build. I read it almost ready for a full release, as far as being stable. Might want to check out the matrix kernal for CM 7 also, its pretty sweet.
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Well, a lot of new updates is always good IMO. It keeps my phone fresh. That's another reason I liked MIUI. For example, it was cool when they introduced the new lockscreens.
As far as themability goes, are there ROMs that are more 'different' from stock Android, like MIUI?
Alot of rom's are based off stock, For compatability as far as service provider and certain functions of the phone. But some will add tweaks and options not available on stock. Like themes, already rooted, better wallpapers, different system apps but depends on developer. Cm 7 seems to have alot of options to change settings and appearance and how it functions. Make sure you have a decent kernal cause this can affect the performance of the options.
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Well, a lot of new updates is always good IMO. It keeps my phone fresh. That's another reason I liked MIUI. For example, it was cool when they introduced the new lockscreens.
As far as themability goes, are there ROMs that are more 'different' from stock Android, like MIUI?
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I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you're looking for some completely different OS, but that doesn't really exist. The most you can really get is either a Sense-type ROM, which in truth is pretty similar to stock Android, MIUI, or some other home replacement.
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I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you're looking for some completely different OS, but that doesn't really exist. The most you can really get is either a Sense-type ROM, which in truth is pretty similar to stock Android, MIUI, or some other home replacement.
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Well, that answers my question than.
I did find the UI of the Acer Liquid Metal and Acer Stream pretty cool. It doesn't have to be like that 'out of the box', but I want to be able to change it to look like that, if you get what I mean.
I know CM7 looks a lot like stock ROM at first sight, but you can change it a lot untill it looks totally different. I've seen some homescreen shots on XDA to prove that. So basically what I want is a ROM that I can change the most to make it look completely different, not a ROM that is completely different out of the box.
I'm looking for the most customizable custom ROM. Cyanogen Mod 7 is always good (I think at least), but I also read something about Super AOSP. According to the big rom and kernel guide at the development section, it has supsetup which lets you customize every aspect of the ROM, which sounds like exactly what I want. If someone can explain what supsetup really is, that would be cool.
But I've also read that Super AOSP isn't getting updates anymore. Apparently there will be a new ROM in the (near?) future named Super OSR.
I've also read that Super AOSP isn't based on CM7, or at least very little. So what's better in terms of customizability? A ROM based on CM7 (or CM7 itself of course), or a ROM based on AOSP?
Sounds like maybe your looking for a kitchen. Then you could personally customize it with apps and options to suite your needs.
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Sounds like maybe your looking for a kitchen. Then you could personally customize it with apps and options to suite your needs.
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Thanks! Will be looking at that. No idea what it is but some Googling doesn't hurt. Edit: so basically you can theme your whole rom with it? Make your own theme? Looks awesome! Their site isn't working right now but I've looked around on the internet. I still need a ROM with it of course. What would be the best ROM in combination with kitchen for the most customizability?
I rephrased my question because I think I wasn't clear. But can you tell me something about Super AOSP and supsetup?
Questions I have left:
- What is supsetup (a SuperAOSP feature)?
- What is the best ROM to go with UOT Kitchen in terms of customizability?
- Are there more mods that let me customize as much as possible? For example, could I be able to modifiy the settings menu, like the order of the buttons?
- What do I need to customize the living **** out of my Nexus S?
In short, a kitchen lets you add or take away certain options or apps in your rom. Wich allows you to customize its appearance and functionality.
Some kitchens if available, will have extra options or features. That way you don't need to go all over the place to find stuff for the kitchen.
This info might be outdated on kitchens, so look for newer info.
Don't know to much on super AOSP or the setup.
Just remember that even though certain options are available, doesn't mean it will be stable.
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Thanks! Will be looking at that. No idea what it is but some Googling doesn't hurt.
I rephrased my question because I think I wasn't clear. But can you tell me something about Super AOSP and supsetup?
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Hey guys im coming from the htc evo 4g. I just got the nexus rooted. What is the best rom or most popular rom in here?
Miui and cm7. I think are the most popular
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AFAIK there are no best rom, only most suitable to one needs. Having said that, Cyanogen, GPA17 and some other are quite popular...you have to try it to find one that suit your needs.
I did try several of them and ended up at stock rooted rom as I need a reliable handset for my day to day usage (phone, message, email, browsing, no games, hardly music or video)...battery is not a problem for me as I always have a second backup ever since I went to Android route.
stock rooted here. Found it to just be the most reliable and best battery. Plus once rooted there are tons of apps that can emulate the tweaks you get with roms. Love ZeamLauncher.
Hm I found stock rooted to be horrible on battery life. ATM I'm on MIUI 1.8.26 and TEUV88 rammstein kernel. Provides me with stability, better battery life, same performance, more customizability, and more functionality built in.
But it's all preference really. I suggest you try out a couple and figure out which you like most.
For fast,responsive, and good battery life, you might want to look into Oxygen 2.2.2. This is what I use and I can confirm that everything needed for a daily phone WORKS.
miui. personal favorite
My personal favorites are MIUI and Oxygen
You can download latest MIUI at www.miui.us and latest Oxygen at http://forum.oxygen.im/viewforum.php?id=7
I've had great experiences with both. Also, the latest Matr1x kernel has been working great on both. Oxygen has been very very stable for me
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Kool man ill give oxygen a try thanks for the info
Hey, I would like to give you my personal experience.
Ive used oxygen, and it really is a beast when it comes to speed and battery.
However, I would recommend brainmasters MIUI. It looks awesome, the speed is awesome and battery usage is ok, not the best out there but ok.
If you want your phone to look very slick and sexy, go for MIUI
MIUI
Never was a fan prior though, was always avid cm7 user and other standard android base ROMS mostly CM7
Gave the new MIUI another chance and never looked back.
I was presently pleased, not only doesn't it look better its more stable and battery performance is allot better than CM7. It also adds allot of features and functionality that other standard aosp NS ROMS don't offer such as better camera, music, faster/smoother browser ...ect
Been using miui for a couple months now and couldn't be more happy don't see myself switching back anytime soon.... probably when icecream is released though
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MIUI
Never was a fan prior though, was always avid cm7 user and other standard android base ROMS mostly CM7
Gave the new MIUI another chance and never looked back.
I was presently pleased, not only doesn't it look better its more stable and battery performance is allot better than CM7. It also adds allot of features and functionality that other standard aosp NS ROMS don't offer such as better camera, music, faster/smoother browser ...ect
Been using miui for a couple months now and couldn't be more happy don't see myself switching back anytime soon.... probably when icecream is released though
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100% agreed with everything including the Ice Cream part.
demo23019 said:
MIUI
Never was a fan prior though, was always avid cm7 user and other standard android base ROMS mostly CM7
Gave the new MIUI another chance and never looked back.
I was presently pleased, not only doesn't it look better its more stable and battery performance is allot better than CM7. It also adds allot of features and functionality that other standard aosp NS ROMS don't offer such as better camera, music, faster/smoother browser ...ect
Been using miui for a couple months now and couldn't be more happy don't see myself switching back anytime soon.... probably when icecream is released though
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I prefer the stock Android Roms. I figure that Google has put a lot of painstaking care into getting the Linux kernel built just right. I tried CyanogenMod, but it seemed to be awfully unstable.
favorite, miui .. very nice and fast ..and highly customizable
SuperOSR - darn fast rom
brainmaster's miui or oxygen 2.2.2
I used zulugen and BM's MIUI.
MIUI is a complete New experience , it has loads of themes and lockscreens etc.
but i dont like the iphone style , so using ADW launcher on it.
I liked MIUI but Netflix video was stutter city, even on Wifi. Switched back to stock and it plays smoothly. Also works fine on Oxygen.
So I wanted to like MIUI (latest version) but there seems to be something going on with a background process that's choking video and causing it not to be smooth...
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stock rooted here. Found it to just be the most reliable and best battery. Plus once rooted there are tons of apps that can emulate the tweaks you get with roms. Love ZeamLauncher.
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This. It's a Nexus, enjoy the stocky goodness of it. Otherwise why bother with a Nexus?
Stock Nexus > Custom ROMs > Manufacturer crippled and bloated ROMs
Hey everyone,
This isn't a technical question is an opinion question. Why are ICS roms so popular when there are so many things like native video recording and hardware acceleration are missing (do to drivers). I see that development is moving quickly with ICS yet Gingerbread has slowed way down. CM7 is still going strong but roms based on stock releases are, practically, dead. I just wanted to see what the opinions are in terms of switching over to ICS as opposed to using a fully functional rom.
ICS is what everyone wants, and wishes for. CM7 is about as good as its going to get (besides ironing out the kinks like BT and little things) stock is at its finest pretty much. Cm9 ICS is exciting and very nice looking. AOKP's customization possibilities are awesome give the phone a whole new look that make friends jealous (specifically iPhone friends lol).
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I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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lovenokia said:
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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in what way, lol?
buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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I second this...latest and greatest but at the cost functionality...then they complain about things not working properly *sigh*
I'm using CM 7 and don't have any issues...I do flash kernels and am using faux's b5...pretty awesome...can't wait to try harshs CM 7 kernel
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Another GB CM7 user here. ICS is the latest & shiny toy, so everyone focuses on that. Almost all apps work on GB, and uses less resources. Plus since ICS & CM9 are more recent, there's more bugs to fix so the perceived "development" going on.
I do use ICS keyboard app & the ICS Roboto font, but don't like the low-contrast blue on black ICS color scheme.
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I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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+1
Exactly my thoughts!
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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It has the support, but is it available for our phone? And what's the point without gpu drivers.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
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Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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Thanks for the interview link, it's great to have a brief inside "peek" of the person behind the scenes.
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Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
ics
google put a lot of work into making ics a lot more polished, obviously they can't make the design appeal to everybody so the only way you can really tell if you will like it better than gb is to try it, I recommend the hellfire sandwich rom, it is by far the most stable and complete rom, and we are looking at linaro in the next build which means that it is 100% faster than stock android
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Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
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hellfire sandwich pg 502, hfs already supports new bb
I use stock rooted with the new baseband and its extremely stable
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i too updated the baseband and love the new stock 2.3.4, but i also like running the latest cm7, everything just works (well except for BT right now LOL)
better battery life and video are the reasons i stay on GB, but i do love ICS and flash it all the time when someone releases a new version (Genesis and Eaglesblood are the ones i use)
in ICS i really like the chrome browser and task manager when you hold home. the rest is about the same but i get a little better battery with EB build2 and i just changed to HFS so hopefully it keeps the better battery.
there is also hardware support just not in the menu menu, flash and openGL are supported.
So I've spent over half a day looking at all the custom rom options and now my head hurts.
Wayyyyy too many options. I even tried one (lunareclipse) out which is working great but not quite what I'm looking for.
All I need is a SIMPLE, STABLE and CLEAN rom devoid of pretty much everything but the necessary functions.
No google stuff, no battery gizmos, no fancy themes... just a completely cleaned out, stable rom.
I almost went for CM7 but I couldn't confirm its viability with an Atrix 2.
Anyone who can point me in the right direction will be owed a thousand thanks and over 900000000000 internets. :good:
You wanna stick with ics and below ?
Try the jb ROMs like PA 3.15, CM10.1. They are wayy better than ICS. They have some bugs though. ( look at their respective threads for more info)
And if you're sticking with ICS, try numa or scv7.
And btw, more details about your phone would be better like the region, Android version etc ( As some of the ROMs aren't made for ATT phones)
NOTE : YOU HAVE TO BE ON ICS FIRST TO TRY ANY OF THE ICS OR JB ROMs
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You wanna stick with ics and below ?
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I prefer 2.3.6 simply because I don't have ics and I'm not sure I want to add one more step unless there are huge gains in performance and stability to be had.
And I'm in NZ so it's obviously a non AT&T phone. And I've checked for ota updates, but the phone doesn't show any so I'm not sure how to go about upgrading to ics even if I wanted to.
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I prefer 2.3.6 simply because I don't have ics and I'm not sure I want to add one more step unless there are huge gains in performance and stability to be had.
And I'm in NZ so it's obviously a non AT&T phone. And I've checked for ota updates, but the phone doesn't show any so I'm not sure how to go about upgrading to ics even if I wanted to.
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I didn't spend much of time with GB, so I don't remember how it used to be. 4.2 is much better than ICS in my experience.
You get cool features like quick settings, expandable notifications and stuff.
See if any of the files from this thread suits your device region. Don't flash any other files other than the right one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934874
Trust me, ICS+ is a huge leap. looks WAY nicer, and runs smoother. Stock ICS is pretty clean compared to stock GB, but CM10.1 is probably the simplest of the custom roms. It keeps the stock android look, and adds a few nice little features. Feels pretty much like stock JB though, and trust me, JB is completely worth it. Project butter took the last step for a solid OS that ICS nearly brought.
CM10.1 is quite stable as long as you are not plagued with the black screen bug, which you will know right away. Other than that, the stock battery stats don't work (use Gsam, its really clean and simple), but it runs great otherwise.
I am not a fan of PA and I doubt you would be, as it has a ton of settings and features that you may not need.
PACman combines CM PA and AOKP, so it is full of features, but can be pretty clean.
AOKP is not out for us yet, but when I have time I am trying to get it working, as it is my favorite. Basically it is CM10.1 with a few great features added.
EDIT: just remembered, CM7 was never released for our phone, as it was too hard to get working at the time, so that is not an option, though in the days of GB it was great.
nobrixkthxbai said:
I prefer 2.3.6 simply because I don't have ics and I'm not sure I want to add one more step unless there are huge gains in performance and stability to be had.
And I'm in NZ so it's obviously a non AT&T phone. And I've checked for ota updates, but the phone doesn't show any so I'm not sure how to go about upgrading to ics even if I wanted to.
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Hey mate, on my NZ Telecom A2 I have observed the following:
Stock 2.3.6: great stability, a little laggy, good battery
NZ Telecom ICS: great stability, ok performance (better than 2.3.6), good battery
JB leak: great stability, good performance, good battery, no device encryption
cm 10.1: : medium stability (occacional camera and sound hiccups that require restarts), great performance, good battery
these are the roms I have tested so far. If I could live w/o encryption, I'd go for the JB leak.
lkrasner said:
I am not a fan of PA and I doubt you would be, as it has a ton of settings and features that you may not need.
PACman combines CM PA and AOKP, so it is full of features, but can be pretty clean.
AOKP is not out for us yet, but when I have time I am trying to get it working, as it is my favorite. Basically it is CM10.1 with a few great features added.
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PA actually has a lot less features and settings when compared to CM.. And it is a lot closer to "stock" AOSP jellybean than CM is.
PA's main and signature feature is the per-app size and color settings (and the PIE controls - until CM recently decided to merge those into their source code).
I am not getting defensive, but c'mon.. He won't be a fan of it because you are not a fan? Sounds like you never tried it yourself, so best let people form their own impressions.
Also, if you looked at the AOKP manifest, it is not basically CM10.1. It is AOKP - using a lot from Google's AOSP sources, and mostly just the hardware from CyanogenMod and a few other things.
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lkrasner said:
CM10.1 is quite stable as long as you are not plagued with the black screen bug, which you will know right away. Other than that, the stock battery stats don't work (use Gsam, its really clean and simple), but it runs great otherwise.
I am not a fan of PA and I doubt you would be, as it has a ton of settings and features that you may not need.
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alteredlikeness said:
PA actually has a lot less features and settings when compared to CM.. And it is a lot closer to "stock" AOSP jellybean than CM is.
PA's main and signature feature is the per-app size and color settings (and the PIE controls - until CM recently decided to merge those into their source code).
He won't be a fan of it because you are not a fan? Sounds like you never tried it yourself, so best let people form their own impressions.
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Lol CM10.1 vs PA(just kidding)...
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deveshmanish said:
Lol CM10.1 vs PA(just kidding)...
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Sorry.. it seems like that, ey? That wasn't my intention.. There are plenty of ROMs to go around and plenty more on the way!
And.. "To each their own"
alteredlikeness said:
Sorry.. it seems like that, ey? That wasn't my intention.. There are plenty of ROMs to go around and plenty more on the way!
And.. "To each their own"
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P.A user from its start build till now..double tumbs up to alteredlikeness
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alteredlikeness said:
PA actually has a lot less features and settings when compared to CM.. And it is a lot closer to "stock" AOSP jellybean than CM is.
PA's main and signature feature is the per-app size and color settings (and the PIE controls - until CM recently decided to merge those into their source code).
I am not getting defensive, but c'mon.. He won't be a fan of it because you are not a fan? Sounds like you never tried it yourself, so best let people form their own impressions.
Also, if you looked at the AOKP manifest, it is not basically CM10.1. It is AOKP - using a lot from Google's AOSP sources, and mostly just the hardware from CyanogenMod and a few other things.
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Sorry, I understand, but I really feel that CM is generally more straight forward and solid, I tried out PA for a change the other day, and while I understand the concept, it is just not really my thing, and judging by the description in the OP he seems to like things pretty plain. Maybe code wise it is closer to stock, but I have always felt that CM felt very clean and professional compared to many other ROMs. Not that they are bad, I have just liked the feel of CM better.
I admit to having some bias in my writing, but I feel that I and the OP have very similar tastes in what we are looking for.
Not trying to smash it or anything, I respect your work, and that of the developers of the ROM itself, but I just think it would not be best based on the given description.
I understand that AOKP is more AOSP, but I was trying to simplify here. In general, I feel that in the versions I have used it is very similar to CM, with a few more features, though it may not be directly from CM source.
Sorry to have disagreed with you, and of course everyone is welcome to their own opinions, I was just trying to give mine.
Sorry.. I was a little grumpy this morning
It's all good.
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EDIT: And, I agree, CM is the king of after-market firmware. And for good reason - it's good quality.. It helps that they have been around so long, and have enlisted an army of coders/programmers and average joe's contributing to the source by the minute.. But, yea, basically all of the other major custom ROMs use a lot of CM code.. Heck, I'm sure even Google merges CM changes back into AOSP at times.
alteredlikeness said:
Sorry.. I was a little grumpy this morning
It's all good.
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EDIT: And, I agree, CM is the king of after-market firmware. And for good reason - it's good quality.. It helps that they have been around so long, and have enlisted an army of coders/programmers and average joe's contributing to the source by the minute.. But, yea, basically all of the other major custom ROMs use a lot of CM code.. Heck, I'm sure even Google merges CM changes back into AOSP at times.
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LOL, so true, whether they take direct code or not, thy have taken features multiple times!