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Would it be possible to build WebOS for our devices since it's gone open source?

hiko36 said:
Would it be possible to build WebOS for our devices since it's gone open source?
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That would actually be pretty cool, although I don't think it would be possible due to the fact that WebOS isn't designed to run on the Tegra 2 Platform. Then again, I might be wrong.

FatalityBoyZahy said:
That would actually be pretty cool, although I don't think it would be possible due to the fact that WebOS isn't designed to run on the Tegra 2 Platform. Then again, I might be wrong.
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Exactly... the fact that it is open source does not mean squat... you have to have drivers to link the hardware to the software... and even if nvidia releases all the source code for the tegra2 drivers this will not matter as it is coded for android...
fundamentally it is possible to do, the only problem is one would have to code the drivers and everything related to them from the ground up with having very little clue where to start... a next to impossible feat...

Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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tuningnoob said:
Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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Indeed
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tuningnoob said:
Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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No, I think it's running a dual core snapdragon. Same that's found in the HTC Flyer.

tuningnoob said:
Isn't the HP touchpad a tegra2 device?
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Stopfakn said:
Indeed
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Nope, it uses a Snapdragon processor.
APQ8060 45 nm ARMv7 1.2-1.5 GHz Dual-core Scorpion L2: 512 kB Adreno 220 Single-channel 333 MHz ISM/266 MHz LPDDR2 Connectivity features not included 2011 HP TouchPad, T-Mobile Galaxy S II, Galaxy S II Skyrocket, HTC Vivid, NTT DoCoMo, Galaxy S II LTE, LG Nitro HD

ICS stock Sensation is faster then Galaxy Nexus :D

Everything is stock , no overclocking or anything like that

Is that a surprise? isn't sensation better than Nexus? or am i wrong?

Benchmark tests don't always tell the truth.

Tired of those benchmark noobs.

ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....

throcker said:
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree

Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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k0zmic said:
The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...

throcker said:
I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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Best dual core phone, in your opinion
It's not a fact.
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throcker said:
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
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When did you use a Galaxy Nexus? It's never been laggy.
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this thread is so lol
first of all 2700 is low
second of all, that quadrant graph has not been updated since they added dual/quad core support
so thats galaxy nexus running 1 core test
check my screenshot for some sensation power, 1512mhz gets 3700 points
was with openSensation btw

My phone just sucks in benchmarks . Quadrant cant get over 3000 mark. Antutu usaly 6800+ on 1.5 ghz. But no lag in programs and in the interface, but seeing this score im thinking something is not ok with it.
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Lmao... I have bolth Sensation (my wife's) and the SGS 2.. and yes the pyramid is a good phone. It lacks a good bit in 3D performance ..
I know the 2 devices have the same S3 chip set but Sammy definitely did better implementing it.. Though I tend to not trust quadrant I score over 3200 with no overclock on my SGS 2.. just saying .. not to mention my buddy has a GNex and that shiz is fast...
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On ics 3D performance is deem good on sensation. Gta 3 max setting = no lag
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FreakyDR said:
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways

Pikabat said:
Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Its inflation. Quadrant is notorious for this. R/RW speed between the current devicesis pretty much the same, especially when they are all on custom ext4 partitions .. Hence why you can run 4 benchmarks and get 4 different scores .. notice the CPU and graphics numbers don't really flux to much...
Hate to break it to you bro. But the Sensation will never be faster than a GNex or any SGS 2 version. Don't get me wrong I love the device. But it is what it is..
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throcker said:
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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lol. My brother has a galaxy nexus and it's not how you describe. It's pretty fast and very smooth.

I m from europe but galaxy nexus what is in usa that lte version is lagy like hell. For many peopls
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Who gives a F**k.
We have what we have, be happy! Its not about the size of your e-penis, its the fleshy one that counts.
Enjoy

you all realize that quadrant is only good for comparing devices with the same screen resolution, right?
The Gnex is running at a much higher resolution and becuase of that the scores will be lower in Quadrant.
Quadrant runs at the phones native resolution so the gnex has to work harder... I cant believe people still use this as their proof....

GPU?

Hi i was having a big argue with a friend so Im asking this here
I'll take HTC wildfire as example at the whole post!
So I was saying that wildfire doesn't have a gpu. My friend said "not true....every phone has a gpu otherwise the screen would have no signal cause the graphic part can not be calculated"
so I said "in the wildfire the cpu calculates the graphic part "
He said "no....the cpu need a gpu to do it "
So I said " ok so he doesn't have a dedicated gpu " and he said that its impossible for a phone to have a dedicated gpu cause the case its not big enough to keep it in ....
So the point is
- for me wildfire doesn't have any gpu and the calculation of the graphic part belongs only to the cpu -according to my friend every phone has a gpu like the one in the nexus s or in any other top range phone ..
Thanks in advance for answers!!
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CPU, GPU, APU, the lines have been blurred. It really doesn't matter.
You have soc "cpu" which contains a lot more than just a CPU, a5x is more a gpu than CPU, and APU designs that do both tasks well. CPU/GPU traditional systems are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
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Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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Right, it doesn't have a dedicated GPU in it's SoC. Graphics processing is pushed to the CPU, which is why it kinda sucks for playing movies.

So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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thyeme said:
Thanks for the reply!
I believe you but wildfire does have a gpu or it does not?
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It does. Your friend is right, if there is no GPU then there would be no signal to your screen.

thyeme said:
So it doesn't have a dedicated gpu or it doesn't have a gpu at all?!
Cause he said that a dedicates gpu its too big for a phone....
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A lot of high-end phones have had dedicated GPUs for a long time now, the Krait S4 uses the Adreno 225 GPU.
Just like in bargain pc's, if the SoC doesn't have a dedicated GPU then it has an integrated GPU. You need graphics processing to have a screen, so its happening somewhere. You just get very bad results without a dedicated GPU.

The Wildfire runs MSM7225 at 600MHz I think, which has a cut-down Adreno 200.
All phones possess a GPU of sorts, although it is usually part of the SoC in modern smartphones. Even feature phones have a 'GPU', although it's usually just a basic Boradcom display controller with no 3D or video acceleration support

So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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thyeme said:
So I'm now thinking about the tegra 3 .... it does have an integrated gpu right?!
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Yep. A pretty good one.

Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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We're entering the realm of SoCs now. Tegra is both a CPU and a GPU at the same time.

thyeme said:
Ok so I'm not understanding .... tegra 3 doesn't have a dedicated gpu but, of course, it does have impressive results...
So what's the difference ( in the construction) between wildfire gpu and the tegra 3 one?
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I'll generalise for you:
In all modern smartphones, no matter what SoC is used, a 'piece' of the package is the GPU. Technically, they are integrated. This is common across all manufacturers, as separate chips for everything wastes power and PCB space.
To answer your question, in terms of contruction there are no differences. Adreno 200 is a small 'piece' of the MSM7225 chip, while whatever Tegra 3's GPU is called is a small 'piece' of the Tegra 3 chip

Best Games for HTC One X's Snapdragon S4 processor

One of the major features of the HTC One X is it's snapdragon S4 processor with possible the best mobile GPU today. Well with that hardware there is only one question What are the best games that are accelerated by the snapdragon S4 ?
:good:So post your best games that take advantage the snapdragon S4?.
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I can't post my favorite tegra3 games as I don't own a tegra3 device.
See what I did there?
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HTC One X is a tegra3 device
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I can't post my favorite tegra3 games as I don't own a tegra3 device.
See what I did there?
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Well HTC One X is a tegra 3 device as I mentioned.

HRandev said:
Well HTC One X is a tegra 3 device as I mentioned.
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This forum is for the S4 version of the One X, not the Tegra 3 version.
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Cole28 said:
This forum is for the S4 version of the One X, not the Tegra 3 version.
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Sorry, I didn't know the difference.

HRandev said:
Sorry, I didn't know the difference.
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One has a Snapdragon 4, the other has a Tegra 3.
One is Dual core, the other is Quad.

Well I think that all HTC one X's should be quad core and have the tegra 3 processor since the INTERNATIONAL VERSION of the HTC one X has the quad-core and the tegra3.
Well I don't see the fun in dual-core anymore.
Anyway thanks for the information.
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HRandev said:
Well I think that all HTC one X's should be quad core and have the tegra 3 processor since the INTERNATIONAL VERSION of the HTC one X has the quad-core and the tegra3.
Well I don't see the fun in dual-core anymore.
Anyway thanks for the information.
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Well I think all HTC one X's should have 28nm chipsets and LTE
Well I just don't see the fun in old technology and 3g
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HRandev said:
Well I think that all HTC one X's should be quad core and have the tegra 3 processor since the INTERNATIONAL VERSION of the HTC one X has the quad-core and the tegra3.
Well I don't see the fun in dual-core anymore.
Anyway thanks for the information.
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Think what you want, we get better battery life and audio quality that isn't sh1t.
You don't even know the difference in the cores... I don't see the fun in being ignorant.
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theking_13 said:
Think what you want, we get better battery life and audio quality that isn't sh1t.
You don't even know the difference in the cores... I don't see the fun in being ignorant.
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Ya, I do know the difference in fact quad-core actually takes less battery and beats audio is also included in the tegra3.
And with the update the battery life has been extent to a decent amount.
Plus we with the tegra3 enjoy hd super accelerated gaming with the superfast quad-core processor.
Quad Core is the Future
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HRandev said:
Ya, I do know the difference in fact quad-core actually takes less battery and beats audio is also included in the tegra3.
And with the update the battery life has been extent to a decent amount.
Plus we with the tegra3 enjoy hd super accelerated gaming with the superfast quad-core processor.
Quad Core is the Future
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Moar cores!!! Ask AMD how well that works out in reality.

This thread needs to be closed. Its in the wrong place and its become a **** swinging contest by a guy who didn't know the difference between devices.
Mod please close this thread.
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HRandev said:
Ya, I do know the difference in fact quad-core actually takes less battery and beats audio is also included in the tegra3.
And with the update the battery life has been extent to a decent amount.
Plus we with the tegra3 enjoy hd super accelerated gaming with the superfast quad-core processor.
Quad Core is the Future
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You turn your own thread into a troll playground? How childish
The reason the tegra 3 has so many hd games has to do with nvidia making offers to those who make decent games to make them specifically for their processor
Anyways, you really need to take yourself elsewhere
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HRandev said:
Ya, I do know the difference in fact quad-core actually takes less battery and beats audio is also included in the tegra3.
And with the update the battery life has been extent to a decent amount.
Plus we with the tegra3 enjoy hd super accelerated gaming with the superfast quad-core processor.
Quad Core is the Future
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Um... Hox outperforms tegra 3 in almost every test also the tegra has crap battery life and no lte. Please tell me again how the tegra is better.
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atticusmas said:
Um... Hox outperforms tegra 3 in almost every test and has crap battery life and no lte. Please tell me again how the tegra is better.
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Finally, I like you now lol.
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atticusmas said:
Um... Hox outperforms tegra 3 in almost every test and has crap battery life and no lte. Please tell me again how the tegra is better.
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The way you phrase it it sounds like ur saying the s4 hox has crap battery life and no lte
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kevina90 said:
The way you phrase it it sounds like ur saying the s4 hox has crap battery life and no lte
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Lol it kinda seems like that
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HRandev said:
Ya, I do know the difference in fact quad-core actually takes less battery and beats audio is also included in the tegra3.
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Yeah...no. the s4 rapes the teg3 in battery life. Audio wise, its not whether or not beats exists. The actual chipset in the s4 hox and the one s is way better than the audio chipset in the teg3
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And with the update the battery life has been extent to a decent amount.
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You mean the update that put the misplaced system file in the right place? Yeah, the s4 has the same thing.
HRandev said:
Plus we with the tegra3 enjoy hd super accelerated gaming with the superfast quad-core processor.
Quad Core is the Future
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Sure. Tegra 3 has better graphics. But the s4 dominates in every day usage. And we never said quad core is bad, the s4 pro that was recently demoed is quad core and simply destroys everything is benchmarks. Oh, and all those teg3 games? They're all gimmicks.
And the most important factor? Nvidia sucks. Qualcomm rules
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Wow this forum really put the blocks to hrandev
:thumbup: good job guys
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Powerfullest phone 2012-2013

In your opinion wich 2012-2013 phone is the powerfullest? The new LG optimus g in ranked numberone in antutu benchmark ranking, but if you re not of this opinion feel free to comment
And wich phone will be the powerfullest in 2013? (if the world do not end tomorow ;P)
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For me,Samsung Galaxy SIII is powerfull phone in 12/13 year.

Samsung galaxy note 2 win over all other device

I think too that winner is SGS3, but when we live in times when comes SGS4 I think we will be very surprised

i think SGS3 and HTC One X..
both are best phone in 2012

And in your opinion which phone will be the best of the year 2013?
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thefirecrow said:
And in your opinion which phone will be the best of the year 2013?
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Anything with tegra 4
That thing looks crazy quad a15 with a 5th lp core and a 72core GeForce graphics roll on 2013 woop woop
skydragon team

joewong1991 said:
Anything with tegra 4
That thing looks crazy quad a15 with a 5th lp core and a 72core GeForce graphics roll on 2013 woop woop
skydragon team
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72 core graphics yeah right define a graphics core.
How do you think powervr 5XT tends to crush tegra 3 .
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Have a look for your self quad a15 with lp core and 72core GeForce 6x tegra 3
65 fps @ 1080
Plus the tegra 3 come out in 2011 and has not long been beet so you can brag all you won't because you won't beet tegra again for another year
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samsung galaxy s3:good:

joewong1991 said:
Have a look for your self quad a15 with lp core and 72core GeForce 6x tegra 3
65 fps @ 1080
Plus the tegra 3 come out in 2011 and has not long been beet so you can brag all you won't because you won't beet tegra again for another year
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Armv7
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I really hate to be that guy, but powerfullest isn't a word.
Now back to the topic, I'd say the GS3
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I envisioned the powerfullest phone as one that could broadcast to cell towers on other continents.
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LG Nexus is the fastest. Best CPU and best graphics.
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LG Nexus is the fastest. Best CPU and best graphics.
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Lol just because it's faster doesn't mean it has better graphics it may look better because it can handle the pixel density better but actually particle shadows bloom light and reflection effects you have nothing on tegra and plus tegra handles heat better your thing gets hot quick and throttles to half its speed which course crazy lag but I'm sure a kernel dev will thx that soon for ya
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joewong1991 said:
Lol just because it's faster doesn't mean it has better graphics it may look better because it can handle the pixel density better but actually particle shadows bloom light and reflection effects you have nothing on tegra and plus tegra handles heat better your thing gets hot quick and throttles to half its speed which course crazy lag but I'm sure a kernel dev will thx that soon for ya
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He owns a Galaxy S3, and he votes for another phone as most powerful. You say Tegra (I assume because your phone has it) and talk great about it.
He shows unbiased opinion but you vote for your phone because you own it. Analytics, mate. Not defending the N4 or anything even though I own one.
The same CPU is found in the 441 PPI Droid DNA. That's what the S4 Pro can handle.
However my vote goes to the hated phone aka the iPhone 5, because frankly, the A6 is the fastest mobile CPU out there. Overpowered? Yes. Most powerful? Yes
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Galaxy S3 or maybe even Nexus 4. Gotta love that Snapdragon chip.

lg optimu g is the power here,no s3 ,note 2
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Nexus 4 if it have sd card slot
.... Sorry google 4.3/12.3 is not enough