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Motorola has posted the source for the backflip. Hopefully this info helps us get this phone opened up from at&t's crippling efforts. Thanks to nokternl at modmymoto for finding this!
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.backflip/frs.backflip_mb300_at_t_usa.rel12_1199
Side rant.....
I really wish we had a motorola forum on XDA, and to all the haters suggesting we return the phone don't waste your time. Many of us are stuck with at&t for work or coverage reasons, and even locked down i, and many others prefer this to an iphone 3g.
BACKFLIP SYSTEM DUMP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642684
BACKFLIP ADB GUIDE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643866
Yes, it would be nice to have a board for the Moto. I only paid $50 for the phone, so I'm going to give it a shot, moving away from Blackberry after many dedicated years... May have to switch back after all the terrible things I've heard about my new purchase, should have done a bit more research. Also, a bit about my purchase experience with AT&FingT:
I want to start by saying that I’ve had the pleasure of working with ATT for the last 5 years. While they’ve had “decent” service, I still drop calls in the middle of downtown Seattle, downtown Bellevue, etc, just unacceptable.
We ordered a new Motorola Backflip, the first Android O/S phone that ATT has released. It released April 7th, and we ordered that afternoon online. The ads are everywhere, front page of ATT’s site, TV ads… $99 after mail in rebate with a new 2 year contract. So we ordered, and here’s the kicker. On the invoice we saw “not eligible for mail in rebate”. ??? The orders get placed through the Premier site, so I had to contact Premier to find out why. The answer was that we upgraded the phone only, not the phone and a voice plan. What? Ok, we already have the unlimited voice @ $69/mo, what more do we need here? Come to find out, it is invalid, because it just requires a $39 voice plan, but Premier would not budge on it!
Be careful how you order!!! Going into a store may be the best way to do it, or ordering by phone with a representative. Another thing that gets to me is how they bill for the phone. You can’t simply have it added to your bill if you are a residential (or whatever the term is) customer. I am also the telecom manager at work, and I can have handset purchases billed to my account all day long. I’ve been a “residential” customer longer than my company has had ATT service. My company only hosts 5 phones! What’s the difference here?
Ok, so I call in to order another Backflip, I guess I’m a glutton for punishment. Ordering for my workplace, so billing to the account is no problem. I called in, and was told that they would wave the activation fee and give me an additional $50 off. I had to get manager approval, so after that I call back in. The guy on the phone is trying to get $149 out of me right off the bat, even though I informed him of the huge TV ads, and front of their website. I was told “it might not be available in your area”. What? Its a national freakin ad! He looked into it a bit further and I only paid $49. So there you have it, call in or go in. And don’t let them try to weasel their way out of their promotion!
I second the motion... a motorola forum would be great. I have worked for At&t for the past 2 years and have had every phone imaginable including an Iphone 3G and 3GS and i have to say i actually prefer the backflip.
nogoldformarfa said:
I second the motion... a motorola forum would be great. I have worked for At&t for the past 2 years and have had every phone imaginable including an Iphone 3G and 3GS and i have to say i actually prefer the backflip.
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there are lots of motorola forums to help. alldroid.org modmymoto ect..
though it would be nice to have some love from XDA but its well known fact XDA is HTC dedicated minus a couple phones that arent HTC.
moosefist said:
Motorola has posted the source for the backflip. Hopefully this info helps us get this phone opened up from at&t's crippling efforts. Thanks to nokternl at modmymoto for finding this!
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.backflip/frs.backflip_mb300_at_t_usa.rel12_1199
Side rant.....
I really wish we had a motorola forum on XDA, and to all the haters suggesting we return the phone don't waste your time. Many of us are stuck with at&t for work or coverage reasons, and even locked down i, and many others prefer this to an iphone 3g.
BACKFLIP SYSTEM DUMP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642684
BACKFLIP ADB GUIDE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643866
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Thank You!!
And; I agree with you 100%.
Although, I'm not stuck with At&t, I love them till the end of the earth... Kinda strange too.
Thank you for the find moosfist.
Also FLAR if you read this.... IM BACK!! its been a while and im back. Flar or any mod that knows me or not, ive been a part of XDA for a long time but took a leave of absense and please consider these earlier posts on having a backflip forum as I also have one and would love to see a backflip forum on XDA as theres no other site out there as complete as this. besides theres many phones that have android on XDA that can correlate with the backflip and vice-versa.
Thank you for your consideration in advanced
_RMB_
been hangin around here for over a year now (kaiser)... would really like to see a section for the backflip... i plan on using both my kaiser and backflip so coming to one place for both devices would be awesome...
fasterdenu said:
been hangin around here for over a year now (kaiser)... would really like to see a section for the backflip... i plan on using both my kaiser and backflip so coming to one place for both devices would be awesome...
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The problem is there isn't an active dev community for the phone. If we get root, that may develop. Unfortunately the backflip isn't a super phone, so the super developers aren't likely to work to hard for supporting it.
Actually, my suggestion would be to head over to modaco's android forum.. that way you'll get the best android support short of the htc guys over here. Modmymoto and modmygphone (same family along with modmyiphone, lol) for more support. I personally hang out here and over at modaco, and with the 3g I still play with (primarily for wifi playing of only a few games) I go to modmyi, xsellize and a few other sites.. so its never harmful to deversify..
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I've decided to completely abandon t-mobile and I plan to NOT pay my last bill and then fight them if it shows up on my credit report. Here is a quick summary:
1. When I got the phone, it was advertised as also running ATT 3G. That was a lie.
2. Phone also was advertised with FM radio. Not true.
3. t-mobile was never able to provide a working unlock code despite repeated attempts.
4. Phone had screen bleed issues. Went to store for replacement, but they were out of stock, so they told me to wait till after 14 days & call cust-serv for replacement. Needless to say this eventually came back to haunt me because now all they say is 'you only had 14 days to return it'!
5. Over the period of the next couple of months - I was shipped 4 empty boxes from t-mobile. Finally got one with a phone in it. Not only was it a refurb unit - it had the same problem as the original one I got.
6. I finally resorted to calling the corporate office and said I just wanted my money back for the phone and to cancel the contract. After 45 minutes of hassling the end result was that the only thing they would do is allow me to mail the phone to corporate headquarters and they would credit my account. Well guess what- I don't want anything to do with t-mobile so that is a no go. I told them if that's the way they plan to handle it then I will keep both phones & never pay the bill.
Lastly - I called LG directly to see if they would fix the phone. Making another long, sad story short - they will not. Their response is the 'screen is the type that will bleed like that - it's normal'.
I've never been so dissatisfied or disgusted with a business my whole life.
Not paying your bill is not a good idea. No technology is perfect. Plus everybody gets run arounds once in their life at any company. Sorry to hear about your experience, but not paying your bill will only create more hassle for you.
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unique77 said:
Not paying your bill is not a good idea. No technology is perfect. Plus everybody gets run arounds once in their life at any company. Sorry to hear about your experience, but not paying your bill will only create more hassle for you.
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While I understand your point I'm not paying for something I didn't get either. Being a senior systems analyst I realize more than most that technology isn't prefect - but that has nothing to do with replacing a defective product. I'm prepared to deal with the hassle it could possibly create on my credit report as I've already spoken to a couple of experts including a CPA about what to expect and how to handle any potential issues that arise. While it might create more hassle for me at least I'll know I didn't just roll over and let them stiff me 100's of dollars. Frankly I will sleep better at night. Furthermore if more people were assertive like this perhaps t-mobile (and LG for that matter) would not be so quick to screw over the next guy. Everyone & their dog knows these G2X's were a) falsely advertised and b) most were defective right out of the box. What they should do is admit fail and offer recalls on all the phones. But why do that when they can just give run-around to customers? This attitude they have "like what ya gonna do about it huh? can't do anything can ya? just buy another phone if you dont like it" crap has got to stop and I for one will not be bullied by these a-holes any longer.
First off buying a phone from t-mobile to use on att is stupid.
FM radio, really is it that big of a deal?
screen bleed....I have it. And never see it except on boot up
As for the 14 days, you knew better and could have went to another store or just returned it all together.
As for the empty boxes. Well that sucks.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
TechnoHippie said:
While I understand your point I'm not paying for something I didn't get either. Being a senior systems analyst I realize more than most that technology isn't prefect - but that has nothing to do with replacing a defective product. I'm prepared to deal with the hassle it could possibly create on my credit report as I've already spoken to a couple of experts including a CPA about what to expect and how to handle any potential issues that arise. While it might create more hassle for me at least I'll know I didn't just roll over and let them stiff me 100's of dollars. Frankly I will sleep better at night. Furthermore if more people were assertive like this perhaps t-mobile (and LG for that matter) would not be so quick to screw over the next guy. Everyone & their dog knows these G2X's were a) falsely advertised and b) most were defective right out of the box. What they should do is admit fail and offer recalls on all the phones. But why do that when they can just give run-around to customers? This attitude they have "like what ya gonna do about it huh? can't do anything can ya? just buy another phone if you dont like it" crap has got to stop and I for one will not be bullied by these a-holes any longer.
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good points, but again, not paying your bill does not impact T-Mobile or LG. But it will impact you. With today's credit situation, intentionally damaging your credit is not a good tradeoff. Why not file a complaint with the BBB or your Statue Attorney General. At the least, the tradeoff for you is better. First, you keep your credit score. Second, the companies in question will be required to respond. It will be an irritant to them....but, right now, you cannot hope to regain your money, your contract freedom or any other satisfaction. Being an irritant might be the best you can get.
BTW...I never saw any advertisement about AT&T bands. Be careful on this one...have written proof, or understand completely what you claim.
Good luck with that ... I personally wouldn't want a $100 phone bill or whatever amount messing with my credit score. Sure you can fight it, but that sounds like a hassle. Maybe better to just pay your bill, cancel your line, cut your losses and move on. You're gonna waste a lot of energy on this (already have it sounds like) and it won't profit you a thing except more frustration.
Just my 2¢ from experience.
tackleberry said:
First off buying a phone from t-mobile to use on att is stupid.
FM radio, really is it that big of a deal?
screen bleed....I have it. And never see it except on boot up
As for the 14 days, you knew better and could have went to another store or just returned it all together.
As for the empty boxes. Well that sucks.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
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You've missed the whole point.
alodar1 said:
good points, but again, not paying your bill does not impact T-Mobile or LG. But it will impact you. With today's credit situation, intentionally damaging your credit is not a good tradeoff. Why not file a complaint with the BBB or your Statue Attorney General. At the least, the tradeoff for you is better. First, you keep your credit score. Second, the companies in question will be required to respond. It will be an irritant to them....but, right now, you cannot hope to regain your money, your contract freedom or any other satisfaction. Being an irritant might be the best you can get.
BTW...I never saw any advertisement about AT&T bands. Be careful on this one...have written proof, or understand completely what you claim.
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I've already filed 2 complaints with the BBB and sent a scathing letter to my State AG, and I have a copy of several t-mobile ads saying it was a quad-band att 3G capable phone.
phburks said:
Good luck with that ... I personally wouldn't want a $100 phone bill or whatever amount messing with my credit score. Sure you can fight it, but that sounds like a hassle. Maybe better to just pay your bill, cancel your line, cut your losses and move on. You're gonna waste a lot of energy on this (already have it sounds like) and it won't profit you a thing except more frustration.
Just my 2¢ from experience.
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If it were to affect my credit score (and at this point I doubt they'll try that) it would be such a teeenee weenne thing on it I don't think it would hurt me hardly at all and I've already got a plan in place to have it removed should it it appear. The other option is to sue and of course that would cost more money and more time than this.
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You've missed the whole point.
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No I didn't. You sound like a typical cellphone customer that is never satisfied with anything. Sell your phone and pay t-mobile and avoid the credit report crap. These people are just not worth it. Don't get me wrong Verizon screwed me many times but finally I have up fighting, used my brain got free **** out of them and ultimately won and left them.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
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If it were to affect my credit score (and at this point I doubt they'll try that) it would be such a teeenee weenne thing on it I don't think it would hurt me hardly at all and I've already got a plan in place to have it removed should it it appear. The other option is to sue and of course that would cost more money and more time than this.
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Hey if its important to you go for it.
tackleberry said:
No I didn't. You sound like a typical cellphone customer that is never satisfied with anything. Sell your phone and pay t-mobile and avoid the credit report crap. These people are just not worth it. Don't get me wrong Verizon screwed me many times but finally I have up fighting, used my brain got free **** out of them and ultimately won and left them.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
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Well I think you did. I've had cellphones for 20 years and haven't had a problem before that I couldn't get worked out by talking to someone in customer service or at a store. Selling the phone and paying the bills and early termination fee means I'd be LETTING them screw me out of about $800 ...because they sold me a defective unit and won't a) fix it b) replace it with a working one or c) just give me my money back. If this is a 'typical cellphone customer experience' then I think WE ALL have a problem. I'm not giving these bozo's one red cent and if it means something pops up on my credit record for 3 days until I get it removed (as I said I'm ready) then so be it.
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Hey if its important to you go for it.
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hahaha - well at this point I feel it's the principle of the whole thing. I've spent 18.5 hours on the phone with them dealing with this crap. My billing rate is $55hr I was thinking of sending them an invoice.
tackleberry said:
First off buying a phone from t-mobile to use on att is stupid.
FM radio, really is it that big of a deal?
screen bleed....I have it. And never see it except on boot up
As for the 14 days, you knew better and could have went to another store or just returned it all together.
As for the empty boxes. Well that sucks.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
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so, if you bought a new car and found that it had no radio, you'd be ok with that?
big price difference, but it's still the same thing.
crazythunder said:
so, if you bought a new car and found that it had no radio, you'd be ok with that?
big price difference, but it's still the same thing.
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dude...what he means is...not paying your bill over a radio...is stupid. You can't come out of this in a good way. You will lose.
Check you PM's. Before you jump ship, let me see if I may be able to assist you.
TechnoHippie said:
While I understand your point I'm not paying for something I didn't get either. Being a senior systems analyst I realize more than most that technology isn't prefect - but that has nothing to do with replacing a defective product. I'm prepared to deal with the hassle it could possibly create on my credit report as I've already spoken to a couple of experts including a CPA about what to expect and how to handle any potential issues that arise. While it might create more hassle for me at least I'll know I didn't just roll over and let them stiff me 100's of dollars. Frankly I will sleep better at night. Furthermore if more people were assertive like this perhaps t-mobile (and LG for that matter) would not be so quick to screw over the next guy. Everyone & their dog knows these G2X's were a) falsely advertised and b) most were defective right out of the box. What they should do is admit fail and offer recalls on all the phones. But why do that when they can just give run-around to customers? This attitude they have "like what ya gonna do about it huh? can't do anything can ya? just buy another phone if you dont like it" crap has got to stop and I for one will not be bullied by these a-holes any longer.
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I love it! I have to agree with you, these big corporations bullying, stealing, lying and taking advantage of hard working people has to stop...sadly very few people will or can fight back so they will keep doing it and getting away with it...but im glad you decided to stand your ground and fight for whats right! Good luck bud!
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OP, I completely agree with what you've set out to do. Companies like T-mobile and LG need to correctly market and manufacture their products, and respond better to defects and mishaps after they occur. I had to exchange my first G2X (which had HEAVY screen bleed and non-working wifi), but somehow lucked out on a good unit the second time around. The hoops I had to jump through to accomplish that exchange led me to lose a lot of respect for both companies, and even more so after reading some of the truly horrid experiences on this forum.
If T-mobile and LG had worked out a coherent exchange program, made accurate announcements of software updates (GB anyone...), and overall handled customer service better, I could've written off the G2X's problems as a normal consequence of being on the cutting edge technologically. Instead, I'm stuck pondering the inability of either company to own up to their mistakes and deal with them.
All in all, best of luck to you; I hope everything works out in your (and our) favor in the end.
crazythunder said:
so, if you bought a new car and found that it had no radio, you'd be ok with that?
big price difference, but it's still the same thing.
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I would have returned it within the proper legal time frame and been done with it
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
Appeasement is what spawned the reign of Hitler. I personally like this guy's spine in the matter. We need more people like him. He seems to understand his financial limitations and if he thinks he has the money & effort to spend then why not let him..?
We should all be doing the same as this guy if it wasn't for the economic restraints... that and this country has somewhat more pressing issues like corruption to iron out before we can get to consumer protection unfortunately.
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UPDATE: haven't heard anything from cyanogen or other devs. if you are able to make contact and get a confirmation either way from any of the devs, please let me know (email / pm / in this thread), and we can move forward. until then, hold off on the donations.
so it looks like no progress is going to be made on this phone unless we send the cm devs a phone. even then, there's no guarantee that they'll work on porting cm to it, but i think it's worth a shot.
there's an sk4g on ebay, buy it now, for $160, couple days left. seller has a 100% rating. http://goo.gl/rsStz i'll buy the phone and send it to cm, assuming we raise the funds in time. we'll look for a phone when we get confirmation. at a minimum, the phone has to be in working condition.
i've never done something like this, and this whole thing might be against xda rules or something, but here's how i'm guessing it should work:
1. raise funds via paypal using my email address "spamziq" at gmail dot com. note that there's a way to do this without incurring fees: http://www.insulators.info/general/paypal.htm
2. buy phone
3. get phone, send to steve kondik (or another appropriate dev); would obviously need an address
4. post confirmation here
5. wait
if not enough funds are raised before the auction is over, or some other snafu occurs, each contributor is refunded his money.
if cm devs return it, i sell it and dispense the money to contributors according to their original percentage of contribution?
what do y'all think?
I'm not sure it would help. Steve has been hired by Samsung (http://www.theverge.com/2011/08/15/samsung-hires-cyanogenmod-founder-steve-kondik/ ) so I'm guessing that he can easily have access to the device if he wants to work on it; you may want to check with him before organizing that.
Find a dev and confirm that they will work on it given a phone before starting anything. Don't raise the money to find that noone will work on it.
I should have some money in less than 1.5 months, and I can help donate. It looks like you can get one on eBay for about $150 USD for Buy It Now. I will be willing to donate $75 to the cause, but how do we know if the person on the receiving end of the cash-flow for this is trustworthy?
(Should we start a thread for donations that are verified, or what?)
We can also use Chase's Person-to-Person Quickpay... if two or more people have a Chase account, of course.
There is a thread. On this forum for a bounty btw there is cm beta out on some thread on xda
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A xda search for "cyanogen sidekick" (no quotes) returns many threads.
Care to link it?
Yeah lemme get my computer. Its some beta for froyo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265765 just need some reverse enginerring i guess
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I donated a few bucks from my PayPal account. Hope it helps!! (If not, please send it back!)
(It was "Buy me Coffee" money sent to me from another site, so nothing personal lost on my end, if Wu turns out to be unreliable)
sduvick said:
Find a dev and confirm that they will work on it given a phone before starting anything. Don't raise the money to find that noone will work on it.
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This. Please do this.
^Yes best idea ever!^
ncmacasl said:
I donated a few bucks from my PayPal account. Hope it helps!! (If not, please send it back!)
(It was "Buy me Coffee" money sent to me from another site, so nothing personal lost on my end, if Wu turns out to be unreliable)
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hey all, i haven't been able to get any confirmation from steve about whether he'd work on this, so chill for a bit. i'm hoping others can get a yes/no from either him or other devs (i don't know of the others) before this goes forward. so far ncmacasl has donated a few bucks, which is pretty cool, but i'm refunding it. gonna update the OP.
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I'm not sure it would help. Steve has been hired by Samsung (http://www.theverge.com/2011/08/15/samsung-hires-cyanogenmod-founder-steve-kondik/ ) so I'm guessing that he can easily have access to the device if he wants to work on it; you may want to check with him before organizing that.
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Could this also mean that because he is working with/for Samsung, that he may have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement, and cannot participate in anything "Samsung related" outside of his normal "Samsung Duties"?
I have pondered on this...
Also, I keep seeing fully functional devices (cosmetic issues only, like scratches to the cover) all for 149-150 via Buy It Now. These would save the "investors" in the device $10 amongst them. Just saying.
Would this work, providing that the funds are not collected ahead of time:
I buy a SK4g, and when I get half my money back (from your donations), I will send it to them?
Does that sound good, as my lady and I both have the same phone?
Does the device have to be flawless to send to them, or just in working condition (cosmetic issues OK)?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Sid...0784571883?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2a1799a5eb THIS just has a bit of nail polish smeared on it and is guaranteed functional...
Edit: Oh, and I have a Friend who's daughter could also benefit from the more Open Android cook..
Yes, I got the refund. thanks Kevin (yes the guy is trustworthy!)
wuziq said:
UPDATE: haven't heard anything from cyanogen or other devs. if you are able to make contact and get a confirmation either way from any of the devs, please let me know (email / pm / in this thread), and we can move forward. until then, hold off on the donations.
so it looks like no progress is going to be made on this phone unless we send the cm devs a phone. even then, there's no guarantee that they'll work on porting cm to it, but i think it's worth a shot.
there's an sk4g on ebay, buy it now, for $160, couple days left. seller has a 100% rating. http://goo.gl/rsStz i'll buy the phone and send it to cm, assuming we raise the funds in time. we'll look for a phone when we get confirmation. at a minimum, the phone has to be in working condition.
i've never done something like this, and this whole thing might be against xda rules or something, but here's how i'm guessing it should work:
1. raise funds via paypal using my email address "spamziq" at gmail dot com. note that there's a way to do this without incurring fees: http://www.insulators.info/general/paypal.htm
2. buy phone
3. get phone, send to steve kondik (or another appropriate dev); would obviously need an address
4. post confirmation here
5. wait
if not enough funds are raised before the auction is over, or some other snafu occurs, each contributor is refunded his money.
if cm devs return it, i sell it and dispense the money to contributors according to their original percentage of contribution?
what do y'all think?
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If you are sending e-mail and your e-mail addy contains "spam" then you are likely to get sent to a spam folder on the recipient's provider, or the e-mail is likely to get dropped all together. I know this because "spam" is in most of my e-mail addys too, even my main ones. (Even Chase had to change their filtering because of this stating that they couldn't send me e-mail, and I told them it is the only one I have, THEY need to fix their as it worked BEFORE their changes...)
Did you use the addy you listed to send them e-mail for info/communication?
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Did you use the addy you listed to send them e-mail for info/communication?
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i only contacted cyanogen by sending him a tweet @cyanogen. i'm not sure who the other devs are. that's why i'm hoping there are others here who might know who else to contact, and who can make the contact themselves. i think more inquiries is better, because not only could it help to ensure we get a response, but it'd also give a hint as to how much demand there is for the sk4g.
We need someone who specializes in kernels . If there was a kernel for gingerbread we would be alot closer to many goals.
jim93 said:
We need someone who specializes in kernels . If there was a kernel for gingerbread we would be alot closer to many goals.
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There is one. The Galaxy S 4G has the EXACT same processor as the SK, and was recently upgraded to Gingerbread. So a kernel is available. The problem, according to Sduvick, is that the drivers are coded differently, namely the display. We could base a GB rom on the GS4G's code, but it would essentially take a complete ground-up rewrite of drivers.
Is it just the display driver? Wouldnt we need drivers to have cm7 on this phone?
There were a couple of others, for one the camera. You'd need to PM sduvick and ask him. He's the only one to date that I know of who has even attempted to compile the code from the SGS4G.
I should have some extra money soon...
Has anyone made contact with Cyanogen Devs to query them on if this would be worked on if one of these was sent to them?
How I got to keep my HOXL and got AT&T to send me a Galaxy SIII I747 free of charge
When my upgrade eligibility with AT&T came up last spring I decided that I needed to familiarize myself with the Android operating system. Having been a long time iPhone user (iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 4) with a mostly positive experience, I had always been frustrated by Apple's lack of Flash support and (at the time) their refusal to adjust their screen size. Little did I know that both Adobe and Apple were just "sitting in the corner" laughing at me when I came to this rationalization. Naturally, I overcompensated and went with the Galaxy Note, which, IMHO was probably not the best fit for an Android noob like myself. I did a little more research, and just on the outskirts of my 30 day return window, the HTC ONE XL was gonna debut. Bought it on launch day May 6th (before the embargo ruined the party). Like everyone else I had concerns over the lack of storage expansion from 16 Gigs - my previous iPhone 4 was 32 Gigs - but felt confident enough to pull the trigger since the 25 Gigs of free Dropbox space was on the table and according to AT&T was in play. Having been Grandfathered into AT&T's unlimited data plan and being a moderate user (I average 6-8 Gigs a month and have only been throttled twice) I felt as though I could transition to Cloud storage with ease.
I wanted to wait as long as possible before establishing my Dropbox account so I could get the maximum out of the 2 years. It wasn't until late September that I learned of AT&T purposely opting out of participating in the deal. I still can't fathom the rational for this, since its always been my understanding that not only AT&T, but all the Carriers had absolutely nothing to do with this promotion because the deal was between HTC and Dropbox. You would think the Carriers would welcome this since it would increase data usage, thus gaining them additional revenue. I'm sure that people, much smarter than myself, who contribute to the XDA forums, have the answer to this burning question since i'm clearly clueless.
Anyway, no worries, I'll just simply "Root", "Rom" and Voilà....Uh-Oh... As usual I'm a day late and a dollar short and I miss my window with the initial Root exploit that HTC closed ---- ( BTW this is in NO WAY meant as a backdoor insult or complaint to the Developers and their tirelessly Godlike work that they perpetually churn out on a daily basis, nor is it to the rest of the "awesomesauce" that describes the entire XDA Community!!!!) Now, I know in the back of my mind, there is an obvious workaround -- which I'm sure has been explained in this forum before - attach service to your previous phone for a day or so --- snag a WiFi connection and establish your Dropbox account and Boom instant 25 Gigs --then simply reattach service to your HOXL --- but ya know what....now I'm Pissed....time to call AT&T....
I started by calling sales not customer service too vent my complaint
1st Barrier ---- I get the initial non-decision making Dingbat ... As quickly as possible, I dispensed of this person and got a supervisor - I explained my issue and advised that AT&T did a "bait and switch" on me and strongly emphasized how ILLEGAL this practice is .....
2nd Barrier --- supervisor said he had no idea what I was talking about and that he had never heard of this "Dropbox freebie thing" (keep in mind I'm speaking with the sales department) --- this was easily refuted as I told the gentleman to try opening the box -- you know --the one with the AT&T logo on it that the HOXL comes in -- and to look at the paperwork inside --- it advertises the promotion!!!! Clearly his plausible deniability is out the window....
3rd Barrier --- "Can't help you because it's not our promotion..." No kidding -- that's the point..... I went on to explain how I was well aware that it wasn't their promotion and how it makes it worse because they purposely had to "opt out" --- emailed him the link to the Dropbox page explaining the promotion and How AT&T and VERIZON opted out (keep in mind the promotion is for any new HTC device running Sense 4.0 not just the HOXL) He continually stated that it wasn't their promotion for which I replied that I knew that and that it didn't matter whose promotion it was. I advised him, that I signed a contract with AT&T based on that information and that the Dropbox offer was used by AT&T as a selling tool to that end and that's why this is a bait and switch situation and that the practice is ILLEGAL
4th Barrier --- "How do we know that you were told about this offer and that our employees used this strategy...." I emailed him a link from androidcentral (Being that this is my very first post on the XDA forums protocol prevents me from posting the link that I sent ... but I can tell you that androidcentral was the original source for the "article" titled "AT&T HTC One X will have free Dropbox space, company spokeswoman affirms" and was dated Apr 24 2012) --- granted this is simply an unofficial "blog site" that can basically say anything they want but I advised him that this story was picked up by all the other major 'tech sites" and it has never been refuted by AT&T. In addition the "AT&T Spokeswomen" is Jackie Vettorino. Her official title is - Digital PR/Social Media Strategist for AT&T - She is basically their Top Dog when it comes to dealing with the press - She is widely known to many media outlets because of her role as the Point-man..er..Point-woman on "Throttlegate" last fall. I explained to him that because of her fairly high profile, it would be extremely remote that the story was fabricated or that she had somehow been grossly misquoted because of the likeliness of serious repercussions... but I did offer to three-way her office --- He declined. I also, again referred him to the materials that came in the box with my phone -- yes the Box -- the one produced and manufactured for AT&T with their logo splashed all over it.
5th Barrier --- "Did you purchase your phone and contract from a Corporate store or online through the official AT&T website ...." I told him that i didn't and that I used an "Authorized Retailer" (My friend works there and I wanted her to get the commission. To be honest, at the time I didn't know it wasn't a corporate store -- they only sell AT&T product and the only name mentioned inside or outside the building was the official AT&T logo all decked out in that crappy blue and orange - no offense to all you Miami Dolphin fans. It had been years since I had been in an AT&T store - all my recent dealings had been at an Apple store) He began to tell me that I would have to "take up this issue" with the store and that it was "out of his hands". I promptly asked him who my contract was with - He stated AT&T. I immediately repeated the question - he again correctly answered AT&T - I asked the question 3 additional times in succession and he scored a perfect 5 for 5. Finally, I asked him if he knew what the word "authorized" meant, as in "Authorized Retailer" and during my reading of this definition (straight from .merriam-webster.com) he interrupted me by resignedly asking me "what I wanted...."
Aah!!! ... Success. I went into this endeavor with the hopeful expectation that AT&T would credit my account the price of what I would have to pay for cloud storage for 2 years - It's soft money and almost always AT&T's go to when they screw up. Well after almost 90 minutes on the call, I quickly rethought my position and like any successful Rep will tell you "Ultimately, you always have to ask for it". I told the supervisor that there were 2 options:
1) AT&T could release me from my contract without penalty and refund my full purchase price for the phone...not something AT&T wants (nor did I ... again I stay because of my unlimited data plan) or....
2) Replace my HOXL with an equivalent phone that has expanded storage options at zero cost to me - of course we both knew that the only possible replacement was the Galaxy SIII
Without hesitating he asked me what color I wanted and to what address I wanted it shipped -- The phone arrived at my doorstep, Oct 2, precisely 27.5 hours from the time I ended the call. After 2 weeks and another lengthy call - this time to Customer Service - I was able to successfully argue that my contract start date should be reinstated to the original May 6th date and not the Oct 2nd citing that the SIII was not an upgrade but a replacement phone.
I created this Post not to boast or pat myself on the back, but rather as a template for other HOXL owners who may be feeling slighted by AT&T's consistently awful business practices. Hey, It doesn't have to be an SIII --- it may be a great way to offset HTC's poor decision of putting out a part deux a mere 6 months into release of their "flagship" X series. Why is it always the early adopters and loyal supporters who seem to get hosed ... but I gotta say the HOXL+ is looking mighty Dope. Although, I do question the decision of not going with a RAM increase, (can anyone confirm this?) While its not a huge hindrance, I do get a "load screen" every now and then. It just seems as though 1 Gig is really riding the line, at least with ICS 4.0.4.
That's awesome bro lol. I wish I could pull some shiz like that.
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haha thats great, I'm glad you made out good
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t may be a great way to offset HTC's poor decision of putting out a part deux a mere 6 months into release of their "flagship" X series.
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Yeah, exactly. Let's start demanding free phones because HTC is keeping up with technology.
If this forum had a "First world problems" section, this thread would've been a sticky.
Some people need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
Great first post. Sometimes I want to tell AT&T these things. I just seem to always get a very helpful customer service rep who always make me feel warm and cared for inside. =)
After this month I'm getting pretty pissed about being throttled to 500kbps after 5GB.
whys everyone mad.... of course they gave him an s3....it's a downgrade and very likely a refurb.
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Yeah, exactly. Let's start demanding free phones because HTC is keeping up with technology.
If this forum had a "First world problems" section, this thread would've been a sticky.
Some people need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
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ATT= Cash Cow
Defrauding the public = illegal
Free phone to satisfy a customer who was LIED to and keep taking their money = MORE PROFIT
No sympathy for them. First or third world. Corporations and governments take advantage of all of us in order to make another buck.
Fight the man and stand up for yourself no matter where you live. Isn't that why XDA came into existence in the first place?
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I would of asked to not be throttled anymore =)
Great first post! Great story! I really felt like when u are watching a tv series that ur addicted to and cant stop watching! Really entertaining!! And congrats on demanding ur rights, thats the way to go!
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ATT= Cash Cow
Defrauding the public = illegal
Free phone to satisfy a customer who was LIED to and keep taking their money = MORE PROFIT
No sympathy for them. First or third world. Corporations and governments take advantage of all of us in order to make another buck.
Fight the man and stand up for yourself no matter where you live. Isn't that why XDA came into existence in the first place?
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You know what else for-profit companies do? They pass their expenses down to their customers. They aren't going to eat the expense of giving out free phones like this. You're not "fighting the man". Its nice to think idealistically like that, but it really doesn't work that way. The cost gets handed down to us in the form of higher device costs, higher service costs, etc.
Their was likely no "defrauding of the public". Bonus offers like the one for Dropbox almost always come with a disclaimer that the terms of the offer can be changed at anytime, and without notice (including rescinding the offer itself). And AT&T opted out of the offer a long time before September. Just because a piece of paper has been sitting in the box since May, doesn't mean the offer is still valid.
If AT&T wanted to keep a customer happy, I can see letting him switch to another phone, if the One X is so "unacceptable" due to low storage. But it would have made the most business sense to demand the One X be returned. Otherwise its just motivation for people to game the system and get free phones.
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Fight the man and stand up for yourself no matter where you live. Isn't that why XDA came into existence in the first place?
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No. XDA developers came into existence because we believe that if we bought a device, it's ours to reverse engineer or do whatever we want with it.
What you are doing is trying to game the system to get free stuff. It's SHAMEFUL.
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You know what else for-profit companies do? They pass their expenses down to their customers. They aren't going to eat the expense of giving out free phones like this. You're not "fighting the man". Its nice to think idealistically like that, but it really doesn't work that way. The cost gets handed down to us in the form of higher device costs, higher service costs, etc.
Their was likely no "defrauding of the public". Bonus offers like the one for Dropbox almost always come with a disclaimer that the terms of the offer can be changed at anytime, and without notice (including rescinding the offer itself). And AT&T opted out of the offer a long time before September. Just because a piece of paper has been sitting in the box since May, doesn't mean the offer is still valid.
If AT&T wanted to keep a customer happy, I can see letting him switch to another phone, if the One X is so "unacceptable" due to low storage. But it would have made the most business sense to demand the One X be returned. Otherwise its just motivation for people to game the system and get free phones.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
IMHO and no disrespect to the OP, after spending so much time talking to their customer service, I would have been very upset if ATT tries to compensate me with an S3, I would have preferred an HTC One X+, too bad is not available yet.
OP, I need to give you props for your effort. In your particular case, I think you did the absolute right thing in complaining to AT&T about the whole issue. You getting the S3 for free is just a bonus in my eyes. IMO, this isn't defrauding a company; it's a situation where the customer was promised something and wasn't delivered by the company and the company made things right.
Congrats on the phone. Although i prefer the one x, gs3 is easier to work with for roms.
I'm surprised AT&T finally gave in. I guess they realized you were persistent and it wasn't worth it.
P.S. 6-8GB isn't moderate use by any means. You're lucky to be on unlimited data.
Great job dotsquad. Maybe others will get the same results.
As for the two that think this is shameful and wrong, ATT doesn't care about you. They only want your money regardless if their products or service work as advertised. And losing dotsquad as a customer costs them more than giving him a new phone and keeping him. Higher costs would be passed on if he went to another carrier.
Give customer a new phone, less than $250
Lose the customer, lose $1000+ per year. They don't really give you anything other than the next monthly bill.
And remember Randall Stevenson CEO of ATT lost the company 4+billion dollars with the failed T Mo merger, and then received a 22million bonus. 4 billion in costs passed on to customers.
If you really want to complain about something, that might be a better start.
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Great job dotsquad. Maybe others will get the same results.
As for the two that think this is shameful and wrong, ATT doesn't care about you. They only want your money regardless if their products or service work as advertised. And losing dotsquad as a customer costs them more than giving him a new phone and keeping him. Higher costs would be passed on if he went to another carrier.
Give customer a new phone, less than $250
Lose the customer, lose $1000+ per year. They don't really give you anything other than the next monthly bill.
And remember Randall Stevenson CEO of ATT lost the company 4+billion dollars with the failed T Mo merger, and then received a 22million bonus. 4 billion in costs passed on to customers.
If you really want to complain about something, that might be a better start.
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Well played sir. I agree 100%
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Awesome!
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You know I may try something similar to this. Although not talking about DropBox I genuinely thought that the HTC One X had 32GB of space (and it does). I didn't know the At&t version, or as I know now the HTC One Xl only had 16GB. And the thing is I remember asking the sales associate at Wal-Mart (which is also authorized reseller as you may know) "How much space does it have" and she said "32GBs". I was like yesss, because I have a bunch of music, take a lot of video and photos and of course fill up on apps. Now I have to constantly clear things up. And I didn't notice it only had 16GBs until my return period was up (I was too amazed at android and didn't really download many apps until later on, I switched from iOS ).
So what do you think my odds are at getting a device with 32GB?
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And yes I tried to make it work but I just can't. I haven't complained about the space issue but here recently it's beging to be a real problem.
All I need to say is 'good work'
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You know I may try something similar to this. Although not talking about DropBox I genuinely thought that the HTC One X had 32GB of space (and it does). I didn't know the At&t version, or as I know now the HTC One Xl only had 16GB. And the thing is I remember asking the sales associate at Wal-Mart (which is also authorized reseller as you may know) "How much space does it have" and she said "32GBs".
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Improper research before buying a device. And I wouldn't trust a Walmart employee to give me any correct information on phones, or an AT&T rep, for that matter. That part was clearly the Walmart employee's bad. But in the future, just do your own research. How hard would it have been to just read the box, before purchasing?
This is the exact reason that this thread is a poor precedence. Now people are trying to get free phones, for their own mistakes.
I just wanted to let you guys know about the poor experience my friend has had with this company. I will start by saying that I have used the service before and was very satisfied. So when my friend's Galaxy S4's charging port failed I recommended mobiletech to her. She sent the phone in and that is where the fun began. She did receive an email saying that the phone was received, fast forward two weeks and she has heard nothing about the phone, she emails them and gets no response. After a few days she finds a number and calls. She is told that "Josh" is out and will return her phone call. She finally gets a phone call back the next day and is told that the part had to be ordered, she then inquires why she was notified of the delay, they apparently have nothing to say about that. She was told that they expected the part to be in within the week and that she should have her phone back in about a week. Two weeks have gone by and again no word, not calls, no emails, nothing about what is happening with her phone. IT HAS BEEN OVER 5 WEEKS!. Of course I feel responsible because I recommended her to this company. I am also disappointed because I was going to send a phone in the get repaired. I know a lot of people have had good experiences with this company, as have I, but based on this recent experience I would caution you guys about using them. I will update this post if anything changes.
A moment of silence for your friend's S4
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A moment of silence for your friend's S4
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lmao, thats why you should never ship things to get repaired. youtube it first,if it looks easy and you can handle repair, knock your self out. or go to a local phone shop
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lmao, thats why you should never ship things to get repaired. youtube it first,if it looks easy and you can handle repair, knock your self out. or go to a local phone shop
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This is a fairly well known company around here, and like I said I used them before with no issue. Another week has gone by and she still has heard nothing. I was secretly hoping that someone from there would see this post and maybe look in on the issue, but I guess not. I guess I will have to start leaving negative reviews around the internet and see if that gets their attention.
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This is a fairly well known company around here, and like I said I used them before with no issue. Another week has gone by and she still has heard nothing. I was secretly hoping that someone from there would see this post and maybe look in on the issue, but I guess not. I guess I will have to start leaving negative reviews around the internet and see if that gets their attention.
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Dang still? what a bunch of scums. hope they rot in hell for doing that. hope you get your phone back.
My device:
Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (rooted)
Rom:AOSP
Carrier:At&t
Dont forget to thank me if i helped
My negative review...
Sorry to hear about your friend's problem with this company. I'm going to write about my experience with this company...which I have to say is just as negative. In short, I placed an order with them to remotely fix my EFS. After setting an appointment up, I never heard another word from them; even after emailing them....STILL NO REPLY. So I was thinking about titling the post...
"Beware Mobiletechvideos! 2..."
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Sorry to hear about your friend's problem with this company. I'm going to write about my experience with this company...which I have to say is just as negative. In short, I placed an order with them to remotely fix my EFS. After setting an appointment up, I never heard another word from them; even after emailing them....STILL NO REPLY. So I was thinking about titling the post...
"Beware Mobiletechvideos! 2..."
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It's strange with all the great reviews this would be happening. My phone was signed for on Wed and I haven't heard anything but I wish they'd just say they received it (someone signed for it) so I'm hoping come Monday I'll here something. I paid for faster service and haven't heard back via email or phone yet
Mobile Tech Videos - what's up??????
I sent my Galaxy sIII in to them for a "hard brick" problem (yes I tried all OTHER ways before resorting to this). The Phone was sent on 7 July and they received it on 9 July. When I logged on it was shown as being "completed". I had hoped that the phone would be returning shortly. After a week still no phone. I sent them emails..... no answers. I called them and left voice mail...... no answer. I contacted them om Facebook... no answer. I had thought, from people on XDA, that this was a legit service but now I am having second thoughts. If I don't hear from them soon I'll just deny the credit card payment and cut my losses. This really sucks. I hope no one else has this bad of an experience.:crying: :crying: :crying:
I saw somewhere on XDA that they were in the process of relocating and once that was finished they would be able to get everything done since they are so backed up.
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I saw somewhere on XDA that they were in the process of relocating and once that was finished they would be able to get everything done since they are so backed up.
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I sincerely hope this is true, I just sent my phone for efs repair to them last week with no updates on them "awaiting shipment". Found this thread through google and just hoping to get my phone back now
Hi guys/gals!
OK, let's get some things sorted out for everyone here! What are your order numbers? I actively monitor another thread here on XDA but didn't realize this one was going so I'm glad I searched for it. It is 100% true we are relocating to our brand new facility on a large section of land that I purchased and I've been contracting the entire project. Although it is an exciting transition, it's been tougher keeping up with emails and communication so I am very grateful for everyone's patience. As most know, we run a clean operation and this is unusual for us so I do apologize for the inconvenience a small percentage of you have had bestowed upon yourselves. So, we have around 3 weeks remaining on our build and we plan to be into the building and running completely out of it the week of August 25th and onward. This process has been rolling since mid-March so the end of it is greatly welcomed by my team and my family! I greatly appreciate the customer base we have of loyal XDA patrons and the likes of many other online avenues. In addition I'm hiring 2 employees to add to our team to better assist our customers in the future for better customer service. I look forward to completing that transition and continuing to uphold the high standards we have set and come to be known by in the future.
So, what are your order numbers? Let's see about making this a response thread for those having trouble getting updates from us.
Thanks!
-Josh
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Hi guys/gals!
So, what are your order numbers? Let's see about making this a response thread for those having trouble getting updates from us.
Thanks!
-Josh
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Order #24129. I called, it had a damaged logic board, but was able to get it booted again. Asked if you could remove root, and reset things so I could get my warranty to cover the replacement. Then it was supposed to be sent back. Maybe it is en-route? Also, there was talks about a partial refund since not all services could be rendered.
Any updates hopefully?
Glad I found this, I was worried from the lack of response or progress on my order. My order number's #24137
Here is an update:
My friend got her pone back about a month ago, she was told that a former employee broke the screen on her phone and hid the phone rather than take responsibility. Mobiletech fixed the screen free of charge and the original problem and shipped the phone back. The phone is now working great. Of course my continuing concern is that had attempts to contact been return in a timely manner this probably would have been resolved sooner. I hope this is a lesson learned.
How do I get ahold of these guys at Mobiletech?
I have emailed them and called and I can't get a hold of anyone at Mobiletech. Does anyone know if they are still open?
Dissatisfied with Lack of Communication
connexion2005 said:
Hi guys/gals!
OK, let's get some things sorted out for everyone here! What are your order numbers? I actively monitor another thread here on XDA but didn't realize this one was going so I'm glad I searched for it. It is 100% true we are relocating to our brand new facility on a large section of land that I purchased and I've been contracting the entire project. Although it is an exciting transition, it's been tougher keeping up with emails and communication so I am very grateful for everyone's patience. As most know, we run a clean operation and this is unusual for us so I do apologize for the inconvenience a small percentage of you have had bestowed upon yourselves. So, we have around 3 weeks remaining on our build and we plan to be into the building and running completely out of it the week of August 25th and onward. This process has been rolling since mid-March so the end of it is greatly welcomed by my team and my family! I greatly appreciate the customer base we have of loyal XDA patrons and the likes of many other online avenues. In addition I'm hiring 2 employees to add to our team to better assist our customers in the future for better customer service. I look forward to completing that transition and continuing to uphold the high standards we have set and come to be known by in the future.
So, what are your order numbers? Let's see about making this a response thread for those having trouble getting updates from us.
Thanks!
-Josh
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Hey Josh,
I am a customer of yours (order# 24225) and I gotta say my experience has been a little less than pleasant. I run a cell repair outfit and I had my JTAG tech out on vacation. So I decided to try you guys out since I had seen your videos, and heard ok things about you on XDA.
I understand that you guys are in the middle of a big move but this is the exact thing that you should have as a large post on your main page or at least your payment page. This should also be something that you anticipate when you are still selling "Rush Service" which I unfortunately paid for. Hire more customer service staff during the move so that you can at the very least communicate with your customers. I have had a phone with you for 4 weeks and have had to fight to get any response at all. Many times I have sent emails, and left voicemails and I haven't gotten any response at all. It wasn't until today that I finally got someone on the phone to get an update and they told me that they would have to call me back as your computers are not up. I understand the hiccups and hangups that moving can cause but it is unacceptable that you don't prepare for this and at least have your people doing regular callbacks to customers to keep them updated. My outfit does approximately 50 repairs a day for people local and shipped in and we make it a point to at least call every day or two to let people know what is going on. I also only employ 3 other people so I know this volume at least can be handled with minimal staffing. It just requires a customer-centric attitude from your employees.
All in all my Note 3 has been with you guys for over a month now and I have been promised call backs, told on numerous occasions that it will "ship this coming Thursday" (Been told that for 3 weeks now), and sent emails/left messages that do not even get a response. I am sure you guys know what you are doing and are quite skilled at reviving hard bricked devices. I also know that it is not easy so I commend you for building a business around it. Your lack of communication and ability to deliver what is advertised, and what your employees told to your customers within a reasonable amount of time is what I am disappointed about.
I am still waiting to hear from someone who promised they would call me back in an hour. That deadline has passed by about an hour. Hopefully we can at least get some resolution on XDA going because reaching you guys directly and expecting accountability is obviously out of the question.
Thank You,
Collin
I just checked in with Collin are there any other order numbers anyone wants checked out?
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I just checked in with Collin are there any other order numbers anyone wants checked out?
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#24107
Thanks.
Week of 25 August and they're still avoiding us
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I just checked in with Collin are there any other order numbers anyone wants checked out?
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First of all, Order 24289
While you're at it, call every customer with an order older than 4 days--or less, for the poor bastards that paid you extra. Explain the nature of the delay, take ownership of your selfish blunders, tell your customers that you are human.... just do something. Avoiding messages and phone calls makes you look like a total asshat, when you're probably just a little scared of confrontation. I get it, but you need to stop that.
Also, you need to add some HUGE banner text to your website informing other potential victims of your halt in operations. The smart & ethical thing to do would be to disable ordering altogether while you figure out the best way to remove your head from your fourth point of contact.
connexion2005 said:
Hi guys/gals!
OK, let's get some things sorted out for everyone here! What are your order numbers? I actively monitor another thread here on XDA but didn't realize this one was going so I'm glad I searched for it. It is 100% true we are relocating to our brand new facility on a large section of land that I purchased and I've been contracting the entire project. Although it is an exciting transition, it's been tougher keeping up with emails and communication so I am very grateful for everyone's patience. As most know, we run a clean operation and this is unusual for us so I do apologize for the inconvenience a small percentage of you have had bestowed upon yourselves. So, we have around 3 weeks remaining on our build and we plan to be into the building and running completely out of it the week of August 25th and onward. This process has been rolling since mid-March so the end of it is greatly welcomed by my team and my family! I greatly appreciate the customer base we have of loyal XDA patrons and the likes of many other online avenues. In addition I'm hiring 2 employees to add to our team to better assist our customers in the future for better customer service. I look forward to completing that transition and continuing to uphold the high standards we have set and come to be known by in the future.
So, what are your order numbers? Let's see about making this a response thread for those having trouble getting updates from us.
Thanks!
-Josh
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Hello my order number is #24437. While you didn't update your website until the 27th of August I believe, I mistakenly shipped it too the old address two days prior to the 27th and with no reply or word back from you guys I am really worried. Please get back to me.