[Q] Some more Sensational Questions - HTC Sensation

My mate just received his Sensation yesterday and is already keen to root/S-Off etc. so I am doing some reseacrh for him. I have the good ol' Desire, which I have done a lot of work with, so pretty familiar with modding that particular phone. The Sensation is entirely new territory for me, however...
I've read and understand the S-Off/CWM/CID thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 , all looks pretty straight forward and simple.
- Since mates phone is already unlocked, is the SuperCID install required to flash custom ROMs?
- Is there a program similar to AndroidFlasher for Desire available for the Sensation? I found this an easy way to update HBoot tables and other things on my Desire. And if not, what is the recommended method to install these?
- For Desire, HBoot.img's can be found at alpharev.com...where do I find CM7/r2 or data++ type tables for Sensation?
- With a Desire that is S-Off, it's highly recommended to update radio's using Android Flasher or fastboot terminal to push the radio.img, since flashing a .zip through cwm can cause bricking. Is this the case with Sensation, or is it OK to just flash the .zip?
...more Q's as I think of them...

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sensation flashing procedures

is someone gonna post a guide to flashing new roms on the sensation , im getting one when they come out and im coming from an HD2,just wondering if the procedures are basically gonna be the same for the sensation as the HD2 as far as hspl 3 etc.....that is once the bootloader problem is woked out,been waiting for this phone for a long time and if it suks i will have no problem going back to my incredible hd2
I expect flashing on the Sensation will be like most other HTC Android devices. Get it permarooted, unlock the bootloader, flash a recovery like CWM, then flash the ROM zip.
tigerz0202 said:
is someone gonna post a guide to flashing new roms on the sensation , im getting one when they come out and im coming from an HD2,just wondering if the procedures are basically gonna be the same for the sensation as the HD2 as far as hspl 3 etc.....that is once the bootloader problem is woked out,been waiting for this phone for a long time and if it suks i will have no problem going back to my incredible hd2
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Flashing Android devices is nothing like flashing the HD2. I have three HD2's and 2 MT4G and it is night and day difference...except for the Recovery part if you are using MAGLDR for your HD2.
I am looking closely at the Sensation.
Flashing the Sensation will not require anything like HardSPL. Android users do not even know what HardSPL is.
To flash the Sensation we will first have to unlock the bootloader, get some kind of root access(whether that is permanent or not remains to be seen) and finally flash a recovery of some sort from which you can flash a new ROM in the .zip format.
So yeah, nothing like the initial flashing of Android to the HD2.
Thanks for the replies, well I hope the bootloader gets cracked but I just gotta give the sensation a try with the hardware upgrades over the hd2
I have been using HTC Touch Diamond2, I'm gonna get a HTC SEnsation once it comes out. After reading the guides on HTC Desire HD for flashing, I realised it is completely different.
I suggest reading all the guides thoroughly before flashing.
I am also nervous about flashing cause it is my first time flashing an android phone. And Its a new phone, hopefully I dont screw up.
deepakmk said:
I have been using HTC Touch Diamond2, I'm gonna get a HTC SEnsation once it comes out. After reading the guides on HTC Desire HD for flashing, I realised it is completely different.
I suggest reading all the guides thoroughly before flashing.
I am also nervous about flashing cause it is my first time flashing an android phone. And Its a new phone, hopefully I dont screw up.
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I can't help but think you're jumping the gun. We don't know how locked/unlocked the Sensation will be (once unlocked by HTC, if that happens). If it's made radio S-OFF before shipping or by an official FOTA update or RUU for those already shipped, it will most likely be just a matter of installing ROM Manager from the Market, clicking the 'Install ClockWorkMod Recovery' button, and then using CWM to install any ROM you like from your sdcard. That's a very low risk procedure that's almost impossible to screw up.
We're going to have to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked. We'll probably see a CWM Recovery a little after and a temp root solution for those unfamilliar with fastboot.
Wrong section btw ;p
Sent from my HTC Vision
dazweeja said:
I can't help but think you're jumping the gun. We don't know how locked/unlocked the Sensation will be (once unlocked by HTC, if that happens). If it's made radio S-OFF before shipping or by an official FOTA update or RUU for those already shipped, it will most likely be just a matter of installing ROM Manager from the Market, clicking the 'Install ClockWorkMod Recovery' button, and then using CWM to install any ROM you like from your sdcard. That's a very low risk procedure that's almost impossible to screw up.
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Over here in singapore, the phone is yet to be released. I heard 18th June for my carrier. I guess it should be S-Off. Or maybe the new batch released. I've never had any experience in flashing a rom on android phones.
I have it now for one week. I have to say sense 3.0 is so nice! For now I miss root only because of titanium backup and deleting vodafone crap... The original rom feels real nice and battery seems ok
Swyped from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
deepakmk said:
Over here in singapore, the phone is yet to be released. I heard 18th June for my carrier. I guess it should be S-Off. Or maybe the new batch released. I've never had any experience in flashing a rom on android phones.
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Once it's fully developed someone will post a guide. As long as you read and follow directions exactly... rooting and ROM'ing is easy. 99% of phones that get accidentally bricked are probably because the user didn't read and do everything exactly.
Until that day enjoy Sense 3.0.
I think flashing should be similar to any android device.. copy the rom.zip into sd card and flash via recovery.. before that we need :
1. Rooting of Sensation
2. A compatible recovery
he he
compiling the recovery shouldnt be that hard colockworkmod has a guide i will try to port once we get the sensation running
JonSolo said:
Flashing Android devices is nothing like flashing the HD2. I have three HD2's and 2 MT4G and it is night and day difference...except for the Recovery part if you are using MAGLDR for your HD2.
I am looking closely at the Sensation.
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This is because hd2 is not a real Android device. Remember when you bought it and there was an OS on it called windows 6.5 all real android devices are similar.
Thank devs for making hd2 run Android. Still considered by me to be the best and most flexible phone out there
nickyg008 said:
Thank devs for making hd2 run Android. Still considered by me to be the best and most flexible phone out there
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+10
My HD2 will still be up and running something even after I get the Sensation and the Hercules.

[Q] What would I have to do to get the stock ROM back?

Okay, I'm pretty sure no one on the sensation forums has posted a thread on this yet.
I'm fairly new to the Android experience. So sorry for any noobness this might seem.
So here's the deal, I'm really excited that the sensation got S-Off treatment a few days back (So I take it we can flash all sorts of custom ROMs right?). Though I'm fairly satisfied with the stock ROM on my sensation, I'll probably flash it in the near future (you know, when htc decides, it's no longer worthy of updates.) But what happens if I regret installing a certain ROM and want Stock sensation ROM back?
If you're lazy:
How do I get stock sensation ROM after having flashed a custom ROM?
Simple run a nandroid back up through cwm so you can revert to it
Clockwork mod
okay, so nandroid is an app I can get from the market right? Though I have no idea what cwm is, so... if you'd be kind enough, i'd love it if you could explain it to me. Also, does this back up to my micro sd card? And if so, is it in the form of a file/folder that i can copy to my computer?
thx in advance~
thanks! This seems like an awesome app!! So before I go and S-off my phone, is this any different from the other methods of flashing rom? and why is the recovery file amazingly small? 4.5megs for the sensation?
You can use the ruu.exe application from the development thread. Its an exe file you just need to run and it will flash over any rom and restore S-ON to your phone. The whole process takes about 5-7mins. I had done that since I s-off my sensation and realized it needed to be sent back for warranty (dust under screen).
aznknightz17 said:
You can use the ruu.exe application from the development thread. Its an exe file you just need to run and it will flash over any rom and restore S-ON to your phone. The whole process takes about 5-7mins. I had done that since I s-off my sensation and realized it needed to be sent back for warranty (dust under screen).
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It will change to ship s-on but not off. There is a guide in the dev section on how to make soff
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
yueli93 said:
Okay, I'm pretty sure no one on the sensation forums has posted a thread on this yet.
I'm fairly new to the Android experience. So sorry for any noobness this might seem.
So here's the deal, I'm really excited that the sensation got S-Off treatment a few days back (So I take it we can flash all sorts of custom ROMs right?). Though I'm fairly satisfied with the stock ROM on my sensation, I'll probably flash it in the near future (you know, when htc decides, it's no longer worthy of updates.) But what happens if I regret installing a certain ROM and want Stock sensation ROM back?
If you're lazy:
How do I get stock sensation ROM after having flashed a custom ROM?
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Hi,
This thread will help you get s-off,and help you restore everything as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
It will give you CWM and you can make your NANDROID backup with it.

[Q] From stock to ARHD

Hi all,
I tried some searching, before I started this one. And I allready want to offer my apologizies if I overlooked something. There is so much info on these boards.
Anyway. I have a Sensation which I've S-off'ed with the Revolutionary tool. After that I changed CID and installed a stock HTC ROM (I came from Vodafone branded).
I've read trhough Mike's thread for ARHD and instructions on installing it, but it only mentions that I should flash it using the Recovery that's coming with the Revolutionary tool.
Should I run the Revolutionary tool again (I allready gained S-Off) and install the the recovery, or is it just possible to install the recovery alone? And if so, where can I find the version that comes with Revolutionary?
Thanks in advance.
Since you are S-Off just download the ARHD zip and place it on your SD card. Then open bootloader...etc and it will install
M1stral said:
Hi all,
I tried some searching, before I started this one. And I allready want to offer my apologizies if I overlooked something. There is so much info on these boards.
Anyway. I have a Sensation which I've S-off'ed with the Revolutionary tool. After that I changed CID and installed a stock HTC ROM (I came from Vodafone branded).
I've read trhough Mike's thread for ARHD and instructions on installing it, but it only mentions that I should flash it using the Recovery that's coming with the Revolutionary tool.
Should I run the Revolutionary tool again (I allready gained S-Off) and install the the recovery, or is it just possible to install the recovery alone? And if so, where can I find the version that comes with Revolutionary?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
Your best bet is to download 4EXT(check my sig),which is like a next generation recovery tool,and install it.
Place the new ROM on the root of your sd card,together with a super wipe zip.
Then ,from your homescreen you can open 4EXT ,go to recovery,install zip from your sd card.
Choose the super wipe zip,followed by the new ROM.
Hit proceed and wait.
Thanks man,
I'll have to read up a bit. I'm kinda new to all this. Since everyone was mentioning CWM I thought it was the only way to do it.
But if I'm not mistaken, I install EXT4 while running OS? And next time it boots, you have a different recovery. I'm used to only seeing HBOOT
M1stral said:
Thanks man,
I'll have to read up a bit. I'm kinda new to all this. Since everyone was mentioning CWM I thought it was the only way to do it.
But if I'm not mistaken, I install EXT4 while running OS? And next time it boots, you have a different recovery. I'm used to only seeing HBOOT
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Hi,
Go to settings >power,and make sure fast boot is UNCHECKED.
This will enable you to enter recovery.
Install EXT4 while running OS.
One of the best aspects of 4EXT ,is that you do almost everything from your home screen.
Wow, thanks for the information. I appreciate that.
Will go at work with it and get ARHD to run, instead of the stock one. The reactions on the releases at Mike's thread are all really good. And it's nice that is has stock look and Sense.
Only doubting on which one to install, the 3.x.x or the 4.x.x. I believe it has to do with Sensation vs. Sensation XE ROM, but if Beats Audio is the only difference (which I guess, is not ) than it shouldn't matter which one I take.
Any suggestions on it? I'm just an average user.
M1stral said:
Wow, thanks for the information. I appreciate that.
Will go at work with it and get ARHD to run, instead of the stock one. The reactions on the releases at Mike's thread are all really good. And it's nice that is has stock look and Sense.
Only doubting on which one to install, the 3.x.x or the 4.x.x. I believe it has to do with Sensation vs. Sensation XE ROM, but if Beats Audio is the only difference (which I guess, is not ) than it shouldn't matter which one I take.
Any suggestions on it? I'm just an average user.
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Hi,
I suggest you start with 3.6.5 ,which is a Sense 3.0 ROM ,and see how you get on.
4.1.6 is a Sense 3.5 ROM,but it is still a test ROM,and therefore not 100% functional.

Need to flash boot.img after HTC Dev Unlock

Yesterday, I was given a Wildfire S to put on a custom ROM. It was actually my younger sister's and while she was perfectly happy with it performance wise, the internal memory's a joke - some 150 MB!!
So i promptly proceeded to amaze her with the flamboyant show of HTC Dev unlock, followed by rooting and CWM recovery. Then i downloaded a ROM with A2SD built in, placed it on the sd card, partitioned the sd card to support an A2SD partition and a linux swap partition, and flashed the zip after a full wipe. After flashing the new ROM, i was all but ready to flash boot.img from fastboot, i decided to scare her by trying to boot without that and get the phone to hang on the splash screen, then extort a treat from her to get it to boot!!
That's when it hit me in the nuts. It booted! So i attributed it to the ROM being a Sense ROM, able to run on the stock kernel - so i went and checked the phone info - and there it was - a custom kernel!! The same that was included in the ROM zip.
This got me thinking - is it only us that have to flash the boot.img separately? Why can the WFS guys flash custom kernels from recovery itself? I thought the HTC Dev Unlock method prevents you from writing to the boot partition??!!
Maybe Tectas can shed some light on this - I see you're also a WFS guy. Any thoughts on this guys?
EDIT : I'm so sorry this got posted in the Themes and Apps section. Have requested it be moved to the General Section. Goofed up with the tabs on my browser and ended up creating this thread in the wrong section. Sorry guys!!
Was it S-on?
Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
suku_patel_22 said:
Was it S-on?
Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
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Yes - stock S-On to begin with.
And then HTC Dev Unlocked
That's strange then
did you use 4ext?
Edit: saw you already mentioned cwm
Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
suku_patel_22 said:
That's strange then
did you use 4ext?
Edit: saw you already mentioned cwm
Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
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I would have used 4EXT in the blink of an eye - problem is, 4EXT doesn't support the Wildfire S currently. The currently supported devices are : HTC Sensation / XE, Incredible S / 2, Desire Z / G2, Desire S, Desire, Desire HD, Inspire 4G, myTouch 4G, Nexus One, Thunderbolt, Evo 3D GSM / CDMA, Amaze
Back to topic : anyone else used any other HTCDev Unlocked device who can flash kernels from recovery?
I'm more or less a wfs guy^^
My gf got one and i take care of their index thread, but i'm pretty less active there since my 2. girly was born.
Also hers is xtc s-offed, because there was no htcdev unlock when she got it and she doesn't let me play that much with it.
I wonder that it was flashed from cwm directly without fastboot, but there are 2 possibilities coming to my mind how this could be possible.
1. Their cwm is an unofficial implementation made by alquez as far as i know, could be that he already made what madmaxx is atm working on.
2. Because the wfs isn't a popular device and they even needed a petition to get at least the htcdev method to unlock their bootloader aside from xtc (for sure only at gsm devices, the wcdma wfs has other possibilies to unlock), htc could have given them a little goody and removed the /boot restriction for recovery.
No matter which case fits, there are many devices needing to flash the boot.img when htcdev was used (i.e. the htc one x also has this restriction at recovery).
Tectas said:
I'm more or less a wfs guy^^
My gf got one and i take care of their index thread, but i'm pretty less active there since my 2. girly was born.
Also hers is xtc s-offed, because there was no htcdev unlock when she got it and she doesn't let me play that much with it.
I wonder that it was flashed from cwm directly without fastboot, but there are 2 possibilities coming to my mind how this could be possible.
1. Their cwm is an unofficial implementation made by alquez as far as i know, could be that he already made what madmaxx is atm working on.
2. Because the wfs isn't a popular device and they even needed a petition to get at least the htcdev method to unlock their bootloader aside from xtc (for sure only at gsm devices, the wcdma wfs has other possibilies to unlock), htc could have given them a little goody and removed the /boot restriction for recovery.
No matter which case fits, there are many devices needing to flash the boot.img when htcdev was used (i.e. the htc one x also has this restriction at recovery).
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That's the thing... the CWM recovery I used was downloaded and flashed using ROM Manager... so it's the original one by koush. I really don't see why HTC would do something like give the WFS an unlocked boot while deny it on other devices....? There must be something else to it.
The last thing I am willing to believe is that HTC took pity on the WFS owners and did this as a kind gesture. HTC is a corporation - a device manufacturing machine.... and just like any other, it may be good at what it does, but it does not have a heart. None of them does.
enigmaamit said:
That's the thing... the CWM recovery I used was downloaded and flashed using ROM Manager... so it's the original one by koush. I really don't see why HTC would do something like give the WFS an unlocked boot while deny it on other devices....? There must be something else to it.
The last thing I am willing to believe is that HTC took pity on the WFS owners and did this as a kind gesture. HTC is a corporation - a device manufacturing machine.... and just like any other, it may be good at what it does, but it does not have a heart. None of them does.
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Could for sure be something else behind it.
Never wanted to say they would have done it as a kind gesture (i totaly agree that such a corporation got no heart at all), more to calm them down and keep them up buying htc products, because there where many disappointed wfs users (the petition they made even where featured at the xda portal).
If this is the case why the /boot partition got no write restrictions, i guess it's related to marketing not kindness.

[Q] How can i root after installing ics ruu?

Hey guys, I'd like to root and S-OFF my HTC desire s. Which is the best way? The only thing I've done to my phone since I own it is install the official ruu running ICS.
bubi90 said:
Hey guys, I'd like to root and S-OFF my HTC desire s. Which is the best way? The only thing I've done to my phone since I own it is install the official ruu running ICS.
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Do yourself a favour and read the stickies in the Dev forum, then search the DS forums as this question has been asked and answered countless times already. You need to know and understand what you are doing and why or you risk getting yourself into a situation you will struggle to get out of.
I'm not an absolute beginner. I've already rooted and S-OFF my previous phone, the HTC Desire. I know what I am going to do.
I just wanted to know if the procedure to root this ics ruu is the same as before.
Thanks
If you know what you're going to do - then do it.
If you don't - read the stickies.
This thread is a waste of time, yours and others'.
You cannot S-OFF the default ICS RUU hboot - for that, you will need to downgrade to an older hboot (0.98.x) by flashing an older RUU for your phone (there are threads around here that will let you know how to do that) and then S-OFF.
However, you do not need to S-OFF to root the ICS rom - you only need to unlock the bootloader through htcdev.com. Keep in mind that this voids the warranty. After you unlock the blootloader, you can flash a custom recovery via fastboot commands (search the forum) and then flash the SU (or SuperSU) binary and app in recovery. That's exactly what I had done as soon as the ICS RUU came out. This is hardly a detailed guide, but it's a starting point, good luck.

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