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Ok, maybe i'm asking too much... but an real alternative Home..

I have a question that turns me on the head a few weeks, but there is a real alternative Home? .. I mean, almost two years now I have the hands on my HTC Dream, I must admit that I've seen very few, and try less. The question arises, there really is a programmer who is working on a real alternative to classic and multiple ROM that you see around? or we will always have many copies of already cooked ROM with only small changes that can range from icons, graphics or small settings to improve performance? Well i notice I'm not complaining about the excellent results we are getting our programmers, who try to keep pace with each new release, ported to every device imaginable (almost all with small donations) etc etc. but I doubt that I'll never have a real alternative as it could be TAT Home or easier SlideScreenPro ..
Sorry for my bad English

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sorry why?..

Good point, wrong section.
You're totally right about devs who only change or pimp Cyanogen's work. I think it's dumb and pointless. I understand amount of work etc, most of android devs on XDA are very talented people, but after trying 34 or 67th custom rom i saw there's nothing better than CM. Of course, there were several awesome roms like SuperD or sth like that, but after all it's just another pimped CM.
Speaking about home replacements - the greatest apps are those which are modified stock launchers. I don't like a fact, there's no really good other home replacement, but i'd rather use perfect-working ADW or LauncherPro than incompatible, slow, unstable, blablablah, etc. home like TAT, SlideScreen or Zune. And of couse most of those super-extra-special-unique home replacements (which don't even work stable) are paid. There's nothing more to say.

in the pre-CM5 era, there were lots of roms not based on cyanogen
anyone remember open eclair? it had the BEST boot animation ever.

Make your own Simple as that. If you're not capable hire someone. Or lastly, learn to code so you may make your own. Don't think any of the three are worth it, then maybe your idea isn't worth it. Just saying. A last option or rather possibility is having someone more talented than you(coding wise) do it out of their own free will because they share your thoughts.

asb123 said:
in the pre-CM5 era, there were lots of roms not based on cyanogen
anyone remember open eclair? it had the BEST boot animation ever.
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You got that right. The only real reason all our ROMs are based on CM now is because almost everyone has moved on to a better phone. As soon as the N1 came out it started and hasn't stopped. Also, for that reason, this topic is pretty pointless. If this were occurring way back when Android was new and everyone copypasta'd cyanogen then it would make sense. That was never the case.

And there is nothing wrong with tweaking Cyanogen ROMs. Open source is meant for this. Cyanogen modifies AOSP then themers and file pushers share their optimizations on top of that.
And about a real home replacement: ADWLauncher is a real home replacement that kicks major a**. Ander states that his work is open source as well... So you can take his wheel and make your own little bike, dude. Peddle on...

Has Development slowed down!

Is it me or has development slow down a bit! It seems it started out strong and lately we haven't seen much aside from Faux and CM updating their ASOP roms.
I mean we don't really have any themers either! I know if I could I would make some!
Coming from the Vibrant there was a lot of themes and dev going on!
Now I know it's been less than two months, but the way it started out I thought we would have more going on!
I guess maybe everyone is waiting on the GB update when ever we get it!
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we waiting 2.3
gonna be here on 06/16/11

I hope GB gets here on 6/16 that would be the best B-day present I could get lol

I have a replacement unit coming the 22nd, I hope it comes with 2.3 already in it!
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There are lots of themes. CM7 uses T-Mobile themes and they are downloadable in the market.
No reason to mod stock unless you install the cm theme support.
LG G2x CM7 2.3.4

couple things.
waiting for the gingerbread source from lg to insure everything needed will work. and dont want to release a rom at this point where i cant tell if reboots , wifi, 4g(whre it shuts down than takes a while to start again), as well as gps.
when these features are working on the phone as should than ill start the rom, but no care to spend days trying to figure out why something doesnt work when its the darn baseband that i cant mess with.
themes. the theming engine has taken over unfortunately. it does theme and is a lot easier for the themers(after they learn it) since 1 theme works on all roms. but its just not like the old days where every app was themed and such. some have taken time to write scripts and such so they can make a better more inclusive theme with it , but most of the themes for it are color changes and icons not full themes with every app themed as we were use to . I know several of the themes that are on my rom for the droid would never be able to be as complete through the theming engine. but it does ok just different. and does enable many more themes available to all roms. and its not like a this or that themes can still be made the old way. but with the old way you need to update the theme with every new build(framework) of the rom so since these roms are in constant change at this point i dont think many are spending time theming it. especially froyo.

Honestly I can't speak for everyone but I have to many projects going on and I don't want to release buggy roms to you guys. I have not stopped working but I would love to see 2.3 drop as it would be (hopefully) more stable in general as they had time to get the bugs out.
Look at it like this the more time we have to spend working on battery drivers the less time we have making good roms. LG did not tell even close to the truth as this was supposed to be a true google experience (MY ASS IT IS) so we already had to spend countless hours removing BS they left it from the O2X.
Anyways look for more stuff soon I am sure as currenlty I am working on my rom again and I know of other hidden stuff getting done. (sorry can't say what all it is yet)
Later.

tweezit said:
Honestly I can't speak for everyone but I have to many projects going on and I don't want to release buggy roms to you guys. I have not stopped working but I would love to see 2.3 drop as it would be (hopefully) more stable in general as they had time to get the bugs out.
Look at it like this the more time we have to spend working on battery drivers the less time we have making good roms. LG did not tell even close to the truth as this was supposed to be a true google experience (MY ASS IT IS) so we already had to spend countless hours removing BS they left it from the O2X.
Anyways look for more stuff soon I am sure as currenlty I am working on my rom again and I know of other hidden stuff getting done. (sorry can't say what all it is yet)
Later.
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cant tell us what it is geez well will it be out "by summer"

eagle1967 said:
cant tell us what it is geez well will it be out "by summer"
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LMAO I will give you a LG and T-mobile response.. It will be out before summer but that could be sometime before 2020
Seriously I wasn't trying to get your hopes up for one thing but just getting you guys to understand alot goes on behind the scenes and no one is quitting on you guys

yeah i know
tweezit said:
LMAO I will give you a LG and T-mobile response.. It will be out before summer but that could be sometime before 2020
Seriously I wasn't trying to get your hopes up for one thing but just getting you guys to understand alot goes on behind the scenes and no one is quitting on you guys
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i was gonna do a quick port of my rom for my own use but when i looked at the source code for g2x froyo-- it appears al they did was remove the instruction sets for the overlay of the o2x all that crud is in the framework and elsewhere and just seemed like to much hassle, so waiting for the gb and hopfully a more stable driverset and baseband.
or keep the life i actaully have now that was non existant for the 9 months i developed for the droid 1
maybe ill just leave it up to you

eagle1967 said:
or keep the life i actaully have now that was non existant for the 9 months i developed for the droid 1
maybe ill just leave it up to you
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Personally I say the more the merrier as I really do care about the end users. I hope to see more people jump in even if it is only a rom modded by adding removing a few things as everyone has to start somewhere.
Anyone can use my rom as a base all I ask is some credit or atleast send me a pm.
And I will always try to answer any questions as long as I got the time

too true
tweezit said:
Personally I say the more the merrier as I really do care about the end users. I hope to see more people jump in even if it is only a rom modded by adding removing a few things as everyone has to start somewhere.
Anyone can use my rom as a base all I ask is some credit or atleast send me a pm.
And I will always try to answer any questions as long as I got the time
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more options are good.
my rom was called sourcery so it kinda had to be from source
i am not with the co0developer of that anymore so id have to comeup with another cool name. but still rather do from source than others base , but might use lg gb as a base if they release it.(hopefully without all the o2x crud) or let us make use of it 1 or the other.
but yeah all the initial launch build was is a o2x froyo themed rom.
have you played around with the animated pull down stuff. looks kinda cool and on the g2x it shouldnt hurt performance much. kinda something new.

I would love to see another rom made from source. I have been working on a 2.2 from source but not even close to being release ready as buggier then crap
Anyways I am sure the crack flashers would love another rom to try out

2.2.2
tweezit said:
I would love to see another rom made from source. I have been working on a 2.2 from source but not even close to being release ready as buggier then crap
Anyways I am sure the crack flashers would love another rom to try out
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2.2.2 i think is not as stable as 2.2.1 i lost 200 on quandrant with it not sure why but from 2.2.1 same rom same mods.
Over all its ok. i released the 2.2.2 rom 3 days after the source was released. did a serious rebuild from scratch since i was about ready to release the 2.2.1
i remember i had a couple bugs i had to figure out that werent on 2.2.1 but i forget what they were .
you have any questions or need a little help drop me a pm.
ill help where i can.
this is a link to my rom since i think only people on verizon have ever heard of it
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sourcery-rom/

@tweezit I for one appreciate all the work you guys put into supporting this phone. I know it takes a lot of time and hard work. If seems some of us are impatient it's only because we are. Seriously, you are making a great device better and I thank you for it.
@Eagle1967 Just checked your Rom out and I would love to see a port...really slick stuff there...great app inclusions and love the blue/black theme.
I'm wading into this myself...been playing around with it but any kind of release is at least a couple month away...if ever. Really makes me appreciate what you guys do.

thanks
bdkinney said:
@tweezit I for one appreciate all the work you guys put into supporting this phone. I know it takes a lot of time and hard work. If seems some of us are impatient it's only because we are. Seriously, you are making a great device better and I thank you for it.
@Eagle1967 Just checked your Rom out and I would love to see a port...really slick stuff there...great app inclusions and love the blue/black theme.
I'm wading into this myself...been playing around with it but any kind of release is at least a couple month away...if ever. Really makes me appreciate what you guys do.
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when i started i knew nothing. i started in august last year was late september before i actaully got my first build that completed and installed and ran and first release was on christmas so took a long time but i started with no knowlege of any of it. still not always sure what i do to make it work it just does
yeah it took 9 months of my life part of the reason i stopped(part ).. but it was fun and made me feel like i accomplished something. i cant believe how popular the rom still is since i havent really done anything with it since febuary but it was the first custom rom with froyo 2.2.2 and actually was for quite a while until some gave up on gingerbread and went back i think there is still only 1 other 2.2.2 rom for the droid though.
if you have any questions feel free to pm me. ill help you out if i can.

Would it be worth posting a stock AOSP/gingerbread rom with MIUI extras?

Hi all not sure where exactly this goes, but I've modified parts of roms I took some from faux, some from cm7, some from eagleblood and am using it as a daily rom. I also added the new MIUI music/MIUI camera (I'm currenty trying to get the ffc to work), as well as miui weather.
Everything is working super fast and smooth, not sure if I could possibly just post a zip file so you can just get the extras, or it would have to be ported as an entire rom.
Any help would be appreciated new to all of this.
Thank you.

I can't say for sure but I imagine there would be plenty of people that would like trying out your ROM and probably others that would love the extras as standalone options. I have an Eris, not a G2x so I wouldn't be able to run the ROM either way but wanted to chime in since I've been working on getting a fully functional standalone version of the MIUI camera that will work on all different phones.
The link in my signature takes you to a more stable version of it but I also recently posted a test version here that has FFC working for at least some. There are other issues that need to be ironed out but I mainly wanted to know if FFCs worked with it and for what devices. I'd be interested to know if it worked for the G2x. Also, I'd be happy to share anything about what all I did if that information would help you.

hell yea dude!!!

do people use smart phones to do dumb things?

I'd like to see it

Okay thanks guys I'll try to get some help to put something together. It'll be my first attempt, and thanks mongoose your version seems better than the one i had ffc is working but in reverse/upside down.

player911 said:
do people use smart phones to do dumb things?
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Haha, that quote made me laugh. Everytime I see that commercial I can't help but giggling. (It's like watching the evil dead series, it's so stupid and cheesy that you just can't help laughing at it )

I've found devs and members on xda helpfull. Pm some developers make a balls to wall ROM and zip up the extras. I don't know what's up with all the gingerbread threads. Once the G2x finally gets gingerbread the dev sections gonna explode. You know what I mean explode

that rom sounds like it would be f*ckin awesome. i think you should do it!

Thinking about getting this phone, but dev section seems dead why?

I was thinking about selling my Vibrant and buying a G2x, but the dev section seems to be pretty dead. Any reason why wasnt this CMs personal phone at one time?

I think part of it is LG's quick memory regarding it. Quick as in quick to forget it, and Nvidia won't release driver source so devs are forced to reuse the 2.3.3 release in order to get 100% functionality.

mindstormmaster1 said:
I was thinking about selling my Vibrant and buying a G2x, but the dev section seems to be pretty dead. Any reason why wasnt this CMs personal phone at one time?
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Some devs don't post updates on xda. Some of them give updatea via twitter or other sites. But it's not dead.
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Does anyone know if they will ever release new drivers? So basically until they do which is most likely never this phone has been as updated as possible? I noticed CM7 is still updating which means 2.3.6 so is there much chance of ICS? Finally who are some good people to follow on twitter for good roms? Thanks a ton guys!

due to overall problems
I believe there were many more developers that planned on developing for the g2x and bought the device to do so as i did.
But with so may problems at the start i just didnt want to even attempt to rom for this device and be blamed when the phone self destructed. after much tampering it is running pretty well but i just dont trust the phone and im sure there are some others that didnt work on the G2X for the same reason. There are some very good options out there and talented people that are working on the G2x. so dont be afraid due to low quanity because there is some high quality work done.
Not sure it will grow much since its been obvious that tmobile and lg's fix for the phone is to shutup until it goes away. But the roms have the phone running pretty well and you wont be disapointed, But i would wait until oct 12th and get the hercules(even without the samsung chip) will be a killer phone or the HTC coming out the same day with similar specs.

This phone works fabulously with CyanogenMod, EXCEPT that bluetooth audio (to a wireless headset or whatever) doesn't work.
Other than that, EVEYRYTHING works. Love this phone.

Well that's disappointing to hear that I probably will never see ICS running on this device. It's a very capable device and the fact that LG refuses to update makes me want to put them in the same category as Viewsonic (unfortunately I also bought the g-tablet).

cyanogen
barqers said:
Well that's disappointing to hear that I probably will never see ICS running on this device. It's a very capable device and the fact that LG refuses to update makes me want to put them in the same category as Viewsonic (unfortunately I also bought the g-tablet).
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will be the best hope to get icecream running. if they do so than other rommers will also follow suite. but cm leads the way on drivers and such for most roms. so if they dont do it ussually noone does. But i wouldnt expect to see anything from LG, they have not shown anything in the way of skill or care to put out updates for their devices.

Because there ate stable ROMs out there and you can only do so much. Other lively dev sections ate deceiving - 20 variations of the stock ROM with different wallpapers and start up screens does not mean a lot of development for the phone.
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I've been running cm7 for about a month now and I'm really happy with it. Every other rom I try have issues and I always come back to cm7. It makes the g2x a very good phone IMO

There are plenty of devs to follow just some took some time off to dev for other devices ... I follow fitsnugly because he does some great compiling with his roms ... Morfic has some awesome kernals and faux123 has his aosp rom and awesome kernals... doniqq has his eaglesblood roms ... whitehawkx has weapon rom... so there's plenty ... I'm a crackflasher so I'm always running something different .... I felt the same way ..Was thinking of jumping ship to a different phone but I just live this phone... Just look around the forum.. there's always somthing ...

One of the basic things I had to decide on was whether I wanted the LG camera app with an OTA based rom or all the fancy-ness of a CM7 based rom. Now I'm at the point where I just group OTA or CM7 and go from there.

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One of the basic things I had to decide on was whether I wanted the LG camera app with an OTA based rom or all the fancy-ness of a CM7 based rom. Now I'm at the point where I just group OTA or CM7 and go from there.
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I know what you mean... I use my camera often... Work and personal use and at one point was running cm7 and was comparing the different can apps from the market ... My wife thought I was going nuts , I was sitting in my living room taking pics for like an hour and a half and comparing pics... There are some pretty good free camera apps that I've used with cm7.. vignette is pretty good...

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I know what you mean... I use my camera often... Work and personal use and at one point was running cm7 and was comparing the different can apps from the market ... My wife thought I was going nuts , I was sitting in my living room taking pics for like an hour and a half and comparing pics... There are some pretty good free camera apps that I've used with cm7.. vignette is pretty good...
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Yup. Work and personal for me too. I tried a few market apps but I just couldn't find something that I was happy with. It was kind of a deal breaker for me considering I really wanted to stick to CM7 for the ridiculous theme/customization options out there.

Swift Star is out, another new ROM. Several out there to try. I prefer those based on 2.3.3 OTA

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Swift Star is out, another new ROM. Several out there to try. I prefer those based on 2.3.3 OTA
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I was running this rom up until 5 minutes ago... I just reflashed fitsnuglys 9/27 kang... Dont get me wrong the 2.3.3 roms are great... There's just something about the cm7 and the kangs that I like... There's always something new added to them and for me they seem to make my phone run better ... Sure there's no LG camera but there's plenty of camera market apps..

Yeah, I see updates for ROMs pretty often, every 5-10days, that's a good release period, and if you want to use a ROM that is constantly being developed just run CM7, a lot of people say it's not good with battery but if you flash one of morfics kernels you will have great battery life. Some people run into issues with it but if you wipe everything you should be fine. Faux's AOSP Rom+Kernel run great together also.

While development might have slowed down a bit for this phone, there's still plenty of excellent devs and roms to choose from. I have always preferred faux's aosp rom/kernel combo for my daily stable/very reliable/great performing/battery life.
Now if you want to see no development look no further then the mytouch4g slide thread. That's just sad cuz even the og mt4g has tons of devs working on it and its still a great phone.
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why no custom froyo roms?

just curious.. hope this doesnt come across the wrong way. i realize everyone wants the latest and greatest, but why havent any dev's made a custom badass froyo based rom?
everything works, we have all the sources and bootloaders, etc.. and it can be made to look just like GB or ICS anyways with theming. it just seems like our devs would have a lot less difficult of a time getting things to work properly. i know there were a lot of difficulties faced when trying to get GB to work.. and still some features are missing
i do realize there are a few (3) modified stock froyo roms available. but nothing custom built straight from aosp. just an idea.. would anyone else be interested?

bradbusa said:
just curious.. hope this doesnt come across the wrong way. i realize everyone wants the latest and greatest, but why havent any dev's made a custom badass froyo based rom?
everything works, we have all the sources and bootloaders, etc.. and it can be made to look just like GB or ICS anyways with theming. it just seems like our devs would have a lot less difficult of a time getting things to work properly. i know there were a lot of difficulties faced when trying to get GB to work.. and still some features are missing
i do realize there are a few (3) modified stock froyo roms available. but nothing custom built straight from aosp. just an idea.. would anyone else be interested?
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If a developer feels like running it, then it could happen but probably not. Now, somehow porting cm1 or whatever the first verson of it would be so cool, imagine telling people "ive got a pretty new phone running the software that started it all". Probably way more difficult then making ics for the infuse lol. Just based out of sheer curiosity.

bradbusa said:
just curious.. hope this doesnt come across the wrong way. i realize everyone wants the latest and greatest, but why havent any dev's made a custom badass froyo based rom?
everything works, we have all the sources and bootloaders, etc.. and it can be made to look just like GB or ICS anyways with theming. it just seems like our devs would have a lot less difficult of a time getting things to work properly. i know there were a lot of difficulties faced when trying to get GB to work.. and still some features are missing
i do realize there are a few (3) modified stock froyo roms available. but nothing custom built straight from aosp. just an idea.. would anyone else be interested?
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It's not a bad idea, brad.
I've ran the uckh1 for a while. I used tibu to delete on extra un-needed like updater, music, social etc..it was pretty good and very responsive running stock and odexed.
There are a few things like battery management, memory manager, gtalk video that froyo does not support.
the infused 1.5 and cousins were pinnacles of their time...oc will also make it very snappy.
however, some app from market may not have all functions or display, so there is some drawbacks.
You can learn to theme...make it badass... and share?

Ya I'm by no means a developer. I can flash lol but coding is something I know NOTHING about. Not even a little bit
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As a developer forum we are all about messing and trying new things. Once something new is released it is normally taken on by most of the developers. As this is not a site that focuses on Roms but on developing new and interesting stuff. You can see where it leads.