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I am looking for a good android phone on at&t. It seems that the captivate is the only really good choice. is it worth it? also, how easy is it to root? I understand that recent app for rooting does not work on the captivate.
If you can get something else on another carrier, do it. If you can wait for something else. Do it.
If you HAVE to get an Android Phone, RIGHT NOW, on THIS NETWORK, then yes Captivate.
But otherwise, NO ****ING WAY BOOOOO CAPTIVATE.
MikeyMike01 said:
If you can get something else on another carrier, do it. If you can wait for something else. Do it.
If you HAVE to get an Android Phone, RIGHT NOW, on THIS NETWORK, then yes Captivate.
But otherwise, NO ****ING WAY BOOOOO CAPTIVATE.
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my parents say it has to be on at&t, I do not have a cellphone at the moment, so I would say yes to the RIGHT NOW and ON THIS NETWORK. is rooting a real pain in the ass with the captivate?
There are one click root programs and one click roms.
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thanks guys
ghost55 said:
my parents say it has to be on at&t, I do not have a cellphone at the moment, so I would say yes to the RIGHT NOW and ON THIS NETWORK. is rooting a real pain in the ass with the captivate?
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No, rooting has been made simple. Do yourself a favor and read, read and read some more before you try anything. It's best to know you can recover when you make an oopsie, we've all made at least one.
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I'd say get the HTC Aria - it is on par performance wise with today's phones. It works. It can be rooted and overclocked. You can run Cyanogen Mod on it out of the box.
But... it is not the fastest phone that AT&T has today.
I love my Captivate... when it works.
But with non-working GPS (and flaky when after much tweaking I do get it up and running.)
And now the phone is suffering from shutdowns after I charge the phone all the way up. Will need to warranty it to hopefully get a build # that will "work".
..... Good thing is that XDA has a rocking' community for this phone - and for those it works for - it is a great phone.
So - its ultimately up to you. Good Luck
cappysw10 said:
No, rooting has been made simple. Do yourself a favor and read, read and read some more before you try anything. It's best to know you can recover when you make an oopsie, we've all made at least one.
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I am going to read all of the xda stuff on the captivate before I do anything to root or overclock the device (overclocking on of those things is my current goal here)
ghost55 said:
I am going to read all of the xda stuff on the captivate before I do anything to root or overclock the device (overclocking on of those things is my current goal here)
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If you are going for speed then you need either the Cappy or the x10, nothing else AT&T has comes close.
Personally between the 1GHZ, 16gb of storage and the beautiful screen, I wouldn't trade my Cappy for any other phone on the market, even though the GPS is crap.
No issues w/ my Cappy... GPS works accurately everytime (shhh!) there's just minor lag when I reboot the phone until the media stops scanning. one-click root will take you longer to download the app to your PC than it will to root it.
Maybe with the "Nexus S" coming soon with gingerbread, samsung will skip froyo and get all galaxy s phones running the newest version first. That would be a nice end of year present. Any thoughts? Just tossing out a hope beyond hopes. Lol
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I disagree.
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No .
It`s taking a long time to getting froyo in the states as it is .
I believe I read that Samsung already released froyo to the carriers and the carriers are what's holding it back.
The Fragmentation will get worse and worse until Google fixes it, or Android implodes.
Very simple.
Imagine if you bought a new computer, and you were stuck on Windows XP all the way until now... when you were finally granted access to Vista.
gdbusby said:
Maybe with the "Nexus S" coming soon with gingerbread, samsung will skip froyo and get all galaxy s phones running the newest version first. That would be a nice end of year present. Any thoughts? Just tossing out a hope beyond hopes. Lol
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It is pretty clear that Google has it under wraps - most manufacturers don't even have the specs. So the likelyhood of our phone getting it when the specs have not been made public and no one else has it is zero.
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Yeah, give us Froyo all ready.
See avatar!
MikeyMike01 said:
The Fragmentation will get worse and worse until Google fixes it, or Android implodes.
Very simple.
Imagine if you bought a new computer, and you were stuck on Windows XP all the way until now... when you were finally granted access to Vista.
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Yeah, fragmentation is bad. Want to hear about some fragmentation? The chrysler 300 is available in 9 trim levels, awd and rwd, with 4 different engines! Holy fragmentation batman .
thedon809 said:
Yeah, fragmentation is bad. Want to hear about some fragmentation? The chrysler 300 is available in 9 trim levels, awd and rwd, with 4 different engines! Holy fragmentation batman .
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ROFL
Ten Chars
hahahah that would be freaking hilarious if they did htat
gdbusby said:
Maybe with the "Nexus S" coming soon with gingerbread, samsung will skip froyo and get all galaxy s phones running the newest version first. That would be a nice end of year present. Any thoughts? Just tossing out a hope beyond hopes. Lol
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No freaking way they will do that. Samsung is in the business to make money, updating existing devices mean less people will buy their new phones. Count yourself lucky when you get Froyo.
and maybe a unicorn will fly out of my ass.
sorry for the sarcasm.....but whats the point of pure speculation?
MikeyMike01 said:
The Fragmentation will get worse and worse until Google fixes it, or Android implodes.
Very simple.
Imagine if you bought a new computer, and you were stuck on Windows XP all the way until now... when you were finally granted access to Vista.
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Nothing wrong with XP ... I still run it by choice ...
saint168 said:
No freaking way they will do that. Samsung is in the business to make money, updating existing devices mean less people will buy their new phones. Count yourself lucky if you get Froyo.
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Changed to what it should have read.
not gonna happen
the way I see it, the Nexus S wont be terribly dissimilar to the current SGS series of handsets (from a hardware platform). Google wont buy into this "oh we'll get around to it" bull**** of source releases (they can't, it will be their lead dev platform).
So even if Samsung/AT&T continue to be ****house at releasing fw for the Captivate, it wont matter as much as it does now, because we will have source for a lot more stuff.
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the way I see it, the Nexus S wont be terribly dissimilar to the current SGS series of handsets (from a hardware platform). Google wont buy into this "oh we'll get around to it" bull**** of source releases (they can't, it will be their lead dev platform).
So even if Samsung/AT&T continue to be ****house at releasing fw for the Captivate, it wont matter as much as it does now, because we will have source for a lot more stuff.
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I really think with the remote possibility of similar hardware or at worst case scenario Samsung went with a dual core I think that they will use as much of the existing code as possible.... (It appears as if they may be alittle lazy in the coding dept. I've been trying to tinker with the i9000 headset issue and the difference seems to be alot of code added to the Captivate so that the headset hardware in the US worked like every other phone out there instead of the lazy way that Samsung first implemented it)
And if they are as lazy as above, we should have something that may be easier to port.... or at least somewhat easier to port. Especially with the progress that the CM6.1 SGS team is making as well with ditching the rfs system.... We'll get it soon enough.... not as fast as N1s, but fairly fast.
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And if they are as lazy as above, we should have something that may be easier to port.... or at least somewhat easier to port. Especially with the progress that the CM6.1 SGS team is making as well with ditching the rfs system.... We'll get it soon enough.... not as fast as N1s, but fairly fast.
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Isn't RFS dead if you use a ext4/voodoo based kernel anyway? Dead as in, the phone can read ext4, we can just partition everything as ext4 and move along, nothing to see here.
zero likelyhood of gingerbread this year
its the crazy sh!t samsung is pulling that makes me wonder if i shouldnt have gotten an aria(only other real android option on att)
Kagoshema said:
zero likelyhood of gingerbread this year
its the crazy sh!t samsung is pulling that makes me wonder if i shouldnt have gotten an aria(only other real android option on att)
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Not sure I'd get the Aria, did it upgrade to 2.2 yet? It's also weaker and smaller than the Captivate. But I definitely agree, after seeing the speed of update and the GPS debacle.. not sure I'll get another Samsung handset again.
With AT&T though... there isn't exactly a wide range of selections.
EDIT: Them Windows 7 Mobile phones sure look tempting.. even then, I'd be eyeing the Samsung Focus.. -_-
Let's the rom cooking begin...
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Let's the rom cooking begin...
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It's already begun. This is a Desire HD. There is plenty already available, including CM7.
what doesnt work on cm7 for it?
Well the thing is, we have to wait n see what bootloader it has, if it the old one or the one that we can downgrade, then we can root, and if we can root, ummm im pretty positive we can flash any rom from the Desire HD rom section.
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Well the thing is, we have to wait n see what bootloader it has, if it the old one or the one that we can downgrade, then we can root, and if we can root, ummm im pretty positive we can flash any rom from the Desire HD rom section.
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I already have a root procedure in mind that I think will work. The HBOOT doesn't matter - the exploit in the newer HTC devices was not in the HBOOT. But the radio version does.
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I already have a root procedure in mind that I think will work. The HBOOT doesn't matter - the exploit in the newer HTC devices was not in the HBOOT. But the radio version does.
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I take it you will be laying down the aria to play with your new Inspire?
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I take it you will be laying down the aria to play with your new Inspire?
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Momentarily. The Aria will still need support for CM. I'm it. This device is established and has good support already. We just need to document the procedure to root and get custom recovery on it, which will be a little more complex than the Euro DHD.
regoice, the great and mighty attn1 has come to the inspire, not sure if its a good thing or not as i still am using my aria but.... oh well.
I will have this phone when it comes out on the 13th, looking forward to some modding. I'm coming from an iphone, JB, customized etc, it's no longer any fun. Hope the roms work and the root is easily attainable, I will be back in here when i get the phone....5 days
I will be getting one of these on launch, though I'm not sure if stores are going to have the phone for a more expensive price than what's shown online. I'm coming from an HTC Fuze and this will be a big improvement for me....now I'll have a nice shiny new gadget to sleep with.
I'm hoping that by some stroke of luck I'll get one that allows sideloading but if not, there are ways around that....I don't like my devices being locked in any way. How long does it generally take to root new phones when they're out? I'm new to Android (been a WM person for quite a few years now) so I'm still trying to read as much as I possibly can about the OS and how it works.
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I will be getting one of these on launch, though I'm not sure if stores are going to have the phone for a more expensive price than what's shown online. I'm coming from an HTC Fuze and this will be a big improvement for me....now I'll have a nice shiny new gadget to sleep with.
I'm hoping that by some stroke of luck I'll get one that allows sideloading but if not, there are ways around that....I don't like my devices being locked in any way. How long does it generally take to root new phones when they're out? I'm new to Android (been a WM person for quite a few years now) so I'm still trying to read as much as I possibly can about the OS and how it works.
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I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
The complexity of rooting is dependent on the device.
Some phones are rooted even before launch day, hahaha.
Here are 4 links that pretty much break it down for you:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
http://www.firstdroid.com/2010/04/27/rooting-explained-via-android-police/
http://lifehacker.com/#!5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
legend221 said:
I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
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Also a long time WM user, first Raphael, currently Rhodium. I love HTC devices.
Looking forward to getting the Inspire as well, really thinking that I'll get one at launch. From all indication this should be very similar to DHD. Hopefully the device will be rooted very quick.
I seriously hope we have a root on launch day lol, i mean stock sense is ok but I can only deal w it for so long.
legend221 said:
I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
The complexity of rooting is dependent on the device.
Some phones are rooted even before launch day, hahaha.
Here are 4 links that pretty much break it down for you:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
http://www.firstdroid.com/2010/04/27/rooting-explained-via-android-police/
http://lifehacker.com/#!5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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Looks like the Canadian version from the carrier Telus launched today. From what I've read we should be able to flash that modems soft/firmware and get the full advantage of functioning hsupa. I also will be wasting my entire day in tinkertown lol.
Oh.Y.Not said:
Also a long time WM user, first Raphael, currently Rhodium. I love HTC devices.
Looking forward to getting the Inspire as well, really thinking that I'll get one at launch. From all indication this should be very similar to DHD. Hopefully the device will be rooted very quick.
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All signs point to yes, undoubtedly we are going to blow this Inspire 4G up with root goodness, then once we get a custom recovery BAM! custom roms are soon to come after that. Overclocking the phone will yield results similar to Dual Core devices as posted by me in another thread.
The real power of this phone will shine brightly after all the above
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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As rwon said our Canadian friends have the Inspire / Desire HD now too, the dev ezterry that brought and continues to provide so much to the HTC Dream / G1 community is from there so the talent is definitely of high caliber up north from us.
The MotoDur Atrix to me is seeming to be a bad product already and it hasn't even launched yet, hahaha
So is it safe to go buy the dhd right now? Think there will be root forthe telus desire hd? I can get contract price out of contract today
legend221 said:
All signs point to yes, undoubtedly we are going to blow this Inspire 4G up with root goodness, then once we get a custom recovery BAM! custom roms are soon to come after that. Overclocking the phone will yield results similar to Dual Core devices as posted by me in another thread.
The real power of this phone will shine brightly after all the above
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I'm very hopeful that that many of the tricks and customization from the DesireHD will be able to be adapted. I want my dual core killing battery sipping 4g hsupa enabled monster on release day
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I'm very hopeful that that many of the tricks and customization from the DesireHD will be able to be adapted. I want my dual core killing battery sipping 4g hsupa enabled monster on release day
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I'm with you buddy, we all look forward to such work.
I have the phone as of this afternoon, already put a full body shield so I cant play with it as much as Id like to however.
Tomorrow Ill take it out after the settling in process of the skin.
I know this barely came out, but is there fully working root for this yet?
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patience grasshopper
While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
Thanks for the reply, a few weeks or even a month is definitely doable. I was just afraid from other posts that there wouldn't be a root, or if it was it would take forever since there's not going to be much dev support on this phone.
the main problem will actually be that the most talented devs have stopped buying samsung phones for a variety of reasons, so there will be many fewer knowledgeable folks on this phone to do things like root and other customizations..
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Yeah I tried the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demands up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
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Yeah I try the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demand up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
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My big thing is front facing speakers. The camera is OK, but then again I have a high end DSLR for pictures.
Dont get me wrong, Samsung makes a premium device. But I cannot deal with a company that is completely against root and modding a phone.
If I pay 800$ for it. ITS MINE. Let me do what I want.
So I'll never own anything Samsung ever again.
Fastboot OEM unlock, fastboot flash recovery, flash SuperSU zip. Done. Rooted nexus. That simple.
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Nexus 6 FTW !!
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
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Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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Crossing my fingers it has msd
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Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
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Same to you buddy.
Learning all this is easy. Alot of just doing and if it doesn't work, return to previous state.
I started back with the Nexus One so I've been doing it a while lol.
And honestly, I don't think a company will ever release my dream phone. Every Phone will have sometime we have to live with, or don't like.
But that's why android prevails.
And exactly, you want big name devs, Nexus devices. The next batch of Nexus devices are going to be a huge hit. Assuming all leaks are true.
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chong67 said:
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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5.1.1 is actually a very nice upgrade for Notes. 5.0 was trash honestly. 5.1.1 they fixed a tub of issues.
At least on a nexus, the 5.1.1 was a very nice upgrade.
Granted I'm on 6.0 at the moment. Gotta love a nexus.
I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.
and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.
hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?
No u cant unfortunately
I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.
Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
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No its not unfortunately
pbedard said:
No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))
kingdazy said:
Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
kingdazy said:
yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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I've been using Ad-guard and does a pretty good job at blocking ads for the most part.