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So supposedly we aren't getting the official 2.2 update this year.

Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant

Who is the "we" you are referring too? I guess you are a canadian fascinate owner as that is the only model that was stated for a 2011 update to 2.2.
Seriously, you are speculating on an article that is all speculation itself and creating FUD for others.

Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?

jel7 said:
Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
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Go to Twitter.com/GalaxySSupport and look at how many times they specifically say the Captivate will have Froyo by the end of the year.

From what I understand, it's ATT, not Samsung causing any delay. In any event, I'm fine with 2.1...I don't see the huge features brought by 2.2 anyway

At this point we may as well just wait for someone to cook some gingerbread.

Froyo
According to Samsung Galaxy S Support, we should have 2.2 by the end of this year.

My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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pachukomendez said:
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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Tbh I rarely use flash for anything except maybe a few engadget videos. But I do use my phone more than anything now.
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I don't understand why you're so butt-hurt. Just flash one of the 2.2 ROMs, there are plenty to choose from and they all make the phone experience 100x better.

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Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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angry birds...

well isnt this just dandy.... :/

jager420 said:
angry birds...
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You can play angry birds now on 2.1.

take this with a load of salt..
from samsungmobileus twitter on Nov 11th...."we are working on Froyo update for our US Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year. "
here is the post http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS/status/2818439500533760

Seriously? Another thread speculating on the froyo release date? You said it yourself... there's a whole development section that has plenty of froyo for you. If you just wanted to use the software your carrier provides, you should have gotten an iphone.

pachukomendez said:
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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I also work at AT&T and i've heard no such date as to when the official 2.2 roll out is going to happen.

yeah if you here a date it is unofficial and subject to change at any moment, usually it will get delayed not pushed up. the att reps i have talked to are kept in the dark until the release day in most cases. the truth is that att is quite lazy.
back in september when we all thought a froyo release was coming soon i spoke to a samsung engineer who quoted "we are working on the froyo update around the clock" and "the wait should not be unusually long" well the lanuage hes used of "working around the clock" put my expectations around november. now who knows.

veive said:
Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Even when the official 2.2 update comes out, I honestly don't see myself, or a lot of the xda community switching over to it. With DG doing great work on the Cog builds and a lot of people following in his footsteps to provide us new roms, the official Samsung and ATT approved updates will always be just mediocre at best.

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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Same here...which is why I am seriously looking at this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836243..If for some reason the official version doesn't come out by Thanksgiving...I'll most likely root it and flash the latest Cog rom out at that time.
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So...

So who is going to buy the new phones when at&t releases them, or be like me and wait about 6 months to see what else pops up?
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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MikeyMike01 said:
If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Why are we working on 2.2
Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3

Let's not beat a dead horse.
Sorry to be blunt, but there is numerous threads about this.

tzabka said:
Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3
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I am talking about when you know you are going to drop the captivate... but if your going to wait and see what other stuff comes out or not.
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i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe

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i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe
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you do know of this,yes?,,i will eat my laptop in 11 months from now if this **** doesnt happen,and you mikey also think google will not start censoring the net before that? i hope you right,,,,,,,i dont want it ,,,heyyyyyyyy lets get mikey,live in your dreamworld here,i hope you are prepared.you good sir sound like a SHILL,good day

LMAO @ that insult video

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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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FLAC Vest said:
Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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For three reasons mostly, to see the good of the phones, the bad, if they will get updated, and what new phones are planned.
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jgr208 said:
Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?

bames said:
exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?
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No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.

MikeyMike01 said:
No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.
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these two posts = thumbs up.
the question is. when to stop waiting? its either now or never imo
oh, and thumbs down to the thread title. its very unimformative, it could be about the world ending or about a new cat you just got... i cant tell by the title.

I agree. Please title your threads appropriately OP. "So...." is a title that should get you banned for a week.

If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.

i used my update on my craptivate with my 2.1dumpdate1. if it wasnt for you devs then i would be pissing on samsungs doorstep right now. i think ill either get the atrix or a nexus s since dev phones are about the only thing guarunteed to get the latest stuff. paying full price anyway. id like to see motorola drop a high powered device like the atrix but wrap it up all tanky like the defy.

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If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.
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Exactly. See, I already have the Captivate now which, although won't be the best thing on the market soon, is still a damn good phone and @ 1.28ghz it keeps up just nicely with the best if them.
I have an upgrade and the question now is; what do I get? Since the Atrix was a flop (pricing and required tethering) im definitely waiting for MWC to see whats coming; the new Samsung phone should be great.
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[Q] Where will updates come from?

Will the phone get updates from Google or T-mobile?

I'm guessing neither. LG has a desktop app that they push updates through. Unless something's different with the G2X I'd assume they'll come through the LG app.

You could also get them from www.cyanogenmod.com!

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You could also get them from www.cyanogenmod.com!
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Quoted for truth.

Hmm. So we could possibly be waiting for LG to do this? That is a potential deal-breaker for me. With pure Google experience and updates we are much more future proof.

borchgrevink said:
Hmm. So we could possibly be waiting for LG to do this? That is a potential deal-breaker for me. With pure Google experience and updates we are much more future proof.
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You're looking at getting a Nexus S or Nexus One then. For those of us not willing to pay full price, and wanting better hardware, we have to deal with manufacturers instead.

MWBehr said:
You're looking at getting a Nexus S or Nexus One then. For those of us not willing to pay full price, and wanting better hardware, we have to deal with manufacturers instead.
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I know, but this has more appealing hardware. I just don't get it if it really is LG pushing updates... Why not just let Google handle everything?

Yeah but the update has to go through tmo first before the release it, the have to make sure their crapware is in there.
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I know, but this has more appealing hardware. I just don't get it if it really is LG pushing updates... Why not just let Google handle everything?
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What I'm saying is no phone out there but the Nexus S or Nexus One has AOSP Android. Every other phone has a version modified by the manufacturer. Google has nothing to do with these changes. The only one who can release updates is the manufacturer (or service provider if the manufacturer chooses to send the update to them first).
That's just the way it is.

Are you opposed to rooting your phone and installing custom ROMs? If you are interested in that, CM will be your best bet by far as you get the best of both worlds (CM had Gingerbread on even the Nexus One before Google did!).
If you don't want to use unofficial software, you should stick with the Nexus line. Even pure vanilla Android devices get updates through the carriers, that is how it is and how it always will be. Nexus phones are different as they are not sold through the carriers, just designed to work on them. They are managed entirely through Google which means updates come from Google.

MWBehr said:
What I'm saying is no phone out there but the Nexus S or Nexus One has AOSP Android. Every other phone has a version modified by the manufacturer. Google has nothing to do with these changes. The only one who can release updates is the manufacturer (or service provider if the manufacturer chooses to send the update to them first).
That's just the way it is.
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I was under the impression that the vanilla devices (like the G2x obviously) was AOSP. Do you know what is modified on this version by LG? I know there is preinstalled software, but that is different than changes to AOSP.

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Hmm. So we could possibly be waiting for LG to do this? That is a potential deal-breaker for me. With pure Google experience and updates we are much more future proof.
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LG's committed to before Summer. The O2X forum has them giving June as a time frame.

BarryH_GEG said:
LG's committed to before Summer. The O2X forum has them giving June as a time frame.
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Just because they have the update for the O2x by June, doesn't mean the G2x will be ready. The two use different software, plus there are different expectations I think between the US market and European. I hope they come together, but I wouldn't be surprised if LG does the O2x first and then gets working on the G2x.

Bob from Wirefly.com said that he talked to someone from T-Mobile when he got the G2X for review and they said the 2.3 update was coming in one month. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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scmurphy13 said:
Bob from Wirefly.com said that he talked to someone from T-Mobile when he got the G2X for review and they said the 2.3 update was coming in one month. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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LOL. "Bob from Wirefly" has the inside scoop, huh.
Don't ever believe anything somebody tells you when they're trying to sell you something. That's all I'm saying.

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I was under the impression that the vanilla devices (like the G2x obviously) was AOSP. Do you know what is modified on this version by LG? I know there is preinstalled software, but that is different than changes to AOSP.
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It's not AOSP vanilla, but it's the closest you will get to it without buying a Nexus phone. There's lots of little tinkering to the OS on the LG2x. For example there's a "DTS" button in the music player to enable dts sound. Also, there's the T-Mobile motto when you drag down the status bar. There's a "tethering may incur charges" warning when you turn on wifi hotspot. There are different notification and ringtones put in. Etc etc. If you put this phone next to a Nexus phone, you will see lots of little differences beyond just the T-Mobile bloatware installed.

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It's not AOSP vanilla, but it's the closest you will get to it without buying a Nexus phone. There's lots of little tinkering to the OS on the LG2x. For example there's a "DTS" button in the music player to enable dts sound. Also, there's the T-Mobile motto when you drag down the status bar. There's a "tethering may incur charges" warning when you turn on wifi hotspot. There are different notification and ringtones put in. Etc etc. If you put this phone next to a Nexus phone, you will see lots of little differences beyond just the T-Mobile bloatware installed.
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Interesting. Mine will be delivered tomorrow so I guess I'll see soon. I've had a Nexus One since release, so I'm sure whatever is different, I will notice. Thanks for the clarification.

Not sure where, but I read from one of the CM guys (I think, don't kill me) that it's not AOSP at all! It's actually that same O2X ROM themed to look like AOSP Froyo

Who is Thinking of Jumping Ship to the SGS2?

Now that it is official I am not sure if it is the device that is getting me excited or all the hype around it. I really like the idea of the larger screen and super thin body. Wish it was qhd though. I guess with every good thing comes a bad thing......
Thinking the only way to get it without spending money is to add a line, cancel my 3D's line and sell the 3D on Craigs list. That should cover the both costs.......Anyone know what Sprint's max cancelation charge is?
Like I said, just thinking about it now and would like to hear what others are planning on doing. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a flame war......Just looking to see if people jumping ship have a better way to get there then what I was thinking of doing......

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Lol, reported because you are annoying.
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muahahababa

Thought about it, no. Got screwed enough with no lube by Samsung, thanks.

[email protected] said:
Not that it is official I am not sure if it is the device that is getting me excited or all the hype around it. I really like the idea of the larger screen and super thin body. Wish it was qhd though. I guess with every good thing comes a bad thing......
Thinking the only way to get it without spending money is to add a line, cancel my 3D's line and sell the 3D on Craigs list. That should cover the both costs.......Anyone know what Sprint's max cancelation charge is?
Like I said, just thinking about it now and would like to hear what others are planning on doing. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a flame war......Just looking to see if people jumping ship have a better way to get there then what I was thinking of doing......
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The SGS II will only be a good phone because of the Dev support. Samsung has a hard time updating the software for some reason. Gingerbread hasn't even been rolled out to the original Epic for god's sake.

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Hopefully if we don't get trolls and people give there honest opinions this thread can stay open because I really want to see what people have to say and what they will be doing now that the device is official.
I have been with HTC for the past 5 years but if something better comes along I am not afraid to go....
Obviously no one has played with it yet but I want to know people's thoughts just based on the announcement and if they are regretting the 3D purchase....

Im all in, day one.

The thread can stay open if the trolling idiots stay quiet

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The SGS II will only be a good phone because of the Dev support. Samsung has a hard time updating the software for some reason. Gingerbread hasn't even been rolled out to the original Epic for god's sake.
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The epics an exception. They can't seem to get the keyboard and radio figured out. This is the reason all sgs2s will be the sane and not have a keyboard lol. You also have to remember that update fiasco had more to do with carriers than Samsung themselves. The sgs had their updates right on time. I'm also curious about the op question. I've always wondered what would happen to your handset if cancelled within the first 6 months.
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The thread can stay open if the trolling idiots stay quiet
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Well i guess it depends on you, I like a thinner device and i know it will have a better camera but I hatethe cheap feel of Samsung devices and.the updates , gingerbread is over nine months old and nothing official for the epic, so what would make me think they will get it on time on the second.device, same thing goes with the photon MOTO devices rake forever to update, that's why I stick with the EVO 3d but all 3 phones are great phones
MGS on my iPad

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The epics an exception. They can't seem to get the keyboard and radio figured out. This is the reason all sgs2s will be the sane and not have a keyboard lol. You also have to remember that update fiasco had more to do with carriers than Samsung themselves. The sgs had their updates right on time. I'm also curious about the op question. I've always wondered what would happen to your handset if cancelled within the first 6 months.
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Well, google didn't have much luck with the nexus s at first either Hence their nickname the Nexus B lol
I won't lie the, gs2 is a beast of a phone. I also think the E3D has been underutilized so far though, this phone has a lot more potential than it gets credit for. Plus the Evo was updated to gingerbread around the same time the epic was getting froyo, it would have came before but HTC waited for gingerbreak to be patched before pushing the update.
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I hate to admit it as I have been a die-hard HTC fan, but, as far as my experience is concerned (on 3rd E3D) I think they really botched this flagship. YMMV, of course.
So long as the SGS2 has a radio that is as good (read: no weaker than) the E3D I'll be happy. The Radio on the NS4G was pitifully weak, the E3D is no better...even after a few. I can live with this. The signal strength indicator can't be trusted on it's own, go by actual measurements and most importantly missed/dropped calls and roaming....and I miss and drop and roam more than ever. It sucks. I do love this phone. I will greatly miss the qHD.
I became fine with the uber-weak radio, but, the final straw is the increasingly bad power-on fiasco. Sometimes it does, some times it doesn't. Some times it will be plugged in with a green light locked up tight (requiring a battery pull and SD card pull) *AND* have a dead battery on top of it. It's at the point where I have a backup alarm set up. Yeah yeah yeah, if I need an alarm clock USE an alarm clock...well, no other phone ever gave me any issues, so, I'm going to say that it is not unreasonable to expect my phone to A> turn on and B> charge while plugged into the charger.
I've tried hard, I do love this phone...even the horrid form factor has really grown on me. But I barely use the 3D enough to really miss... I may keep the E3D, it is a rather unique phone, but, SGS2 here I come....Also, aside from touchwiz (which is easily disgarded) it is a nearly stock Android experience....and Samsung has Cyanogen on their payroll. That can't be bad.
I will miss you guys, I'll be back to visit though. It has been fun.

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Honestly, I think its more insecure when somebody has a decent phone and has to make a thread asking for their peers/competitions approval to get the other phone. Btw, I have a nokia 1100. Do you think I should upgrade to the nokia 6630?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

The reason the new phone does not appeal to me that much is because it is WIDE -even wider than the Evo 4G. And taller too.

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Honestly, I think its more insecure when somebody has a decent phone and has to make a thread asking for their peers/competitions approval to get the other phone. Btw, I have a nokia 1100. Do you think I should upgrade to the nokia 6630?
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I see it more like asking the opinions of people you consider knowledgeable on the subject. You'd be a fool to not ask people who are very familiar with something when considering whether to buy it or not....especially when it's such a relatively pricey gadget. Take it as a compliment that someone (may) respect your opinion enough on the subject to take your advice to heart.
We are a community here. I doubt any of us actually give a crap of another approves of one another in a social context, especially when starting a thread like this (so long as it isn't obviously trollbait).

For the life of me i don't know why you won't take this into the correct forum...at this point you are trolling and trying to cause a flame war..go back to the Samsung website and dry hump a pic of the gs2 ..i mean its specs are unprecedented..a 1.2 ghz dual core...whoaa.. a gig of RAM? Holy moly...a wvga screen..omfg... This thing ****s on everything...there is nothing else like it..I bet it will load up webpages a third of a.second faster than the e3d and that is very important..mods pls get rid of this rush guy..he's been causing trouble for hours and its getting on everyones nerves

You guys know that instant feeling of anger, shame, befuddlement you get when you see a trailer for a movie that has already been made 2 times before?
And like... The 1st one wasn't good to begin with but it got a lot of "views" so they keep doing it...
Over
And over
And over...
Imagine that, this thread reminded me of those crappy remake movies.

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I see it more like asking the opinions of people you consider knowledgeable on the subject. You'd be a fool to not ask people who are very familiar with something when considering whether to buy it or not....especially when it's such a relatively pricey gadget.
We are a community here. I doubt any of us actually give a crap of another approves of one another in a social context, especially when starting a thread like this (so long as it isn't obviously trollbait).
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Are you serious? Its a phone that hasn't come out yet, and at that, it just a variation of a phone that is out with a bigger screen. Seriously? I could be real mean here but I wont. Guys do you think I should get the pink shirt with BIGGER yellow stripes?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Have Google & Samsung robbed some of their customers of OTA's?

Well I consider myself quite loyal to the Android platform and handset manufactures. Bought (and all SIM free) HTC Magic, Motorola Milestone, HTC Desire, Nexus One, Galaxy S, Nexus S.... now that's quite a bit of cash I have spent.
So, after deciding to settle with the Nexus range, as I do like the idea of getting a vanilla android OS, plus the latest and greatest updates.... As I did with the Nexus One.
Well I have two Nexus S's, one for me and one for the girlfriend.... so we are looking nearly 1000€ at the time of purchase.
Both handsets are the i9020 models... and both running 2.3.4
So, out pop's 2.3.5, and it's only for the Nexus S 4G ... well, OK I can live with that.
Now out pop's 2.3.6 ... and once again, or at least for the moment, nothing for the i9020 owners.
To me this is just simply wrong. Plain and simple. There are too many variants of the handset now, but as someone who generally buys on day of release I am expecting to the get the updates.
I can not believe I am alone in thinking this, but one thing is for sure I will be seriously debating purchasing the Nexus Prime or whatever it may be called in the end, if this is how OTA's will be handled.
Interested to see if anyone feels the same about this.

U do know that there just bug fixes for our phone .....y would u want an ota that has nothing to do wit ur phone ...
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There are plenty of bugs in 2.3.4 on i9020 .... most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset. OK, with the Nexus One they had no choice due to supplies of the displays.
It should all be streamlined, not so fragmented.

There are important security patches in these updates too.
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matt2053 said:
There are important security patches in these updates too.
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Which would apply to the i9020 I assume. Also I guess the android source is on 2.3.6 now... so our handset will be not up to date.

kuntstubble said:
most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset.
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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.

bozzykid said:
This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.
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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.

You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.

splmonster said:
You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.
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OK some of your comments are valid. And I know fine well that Google provide the OTA's and not Samsung. Think you are missing my point tho... and it's as simple as this, there is fragmentation of the version numbers and functionality too... I'm not banging on about the baseband, but the actual OS...

kuntstubble said:
Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.
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2.3.4 was suppose to be the last Gingerbread release. 2.3.5 was for the Nexus S 4G because of network issues. 2.3.6 was for the versions experiencing the search popup bug. It would make sense that they are holding off releasing anything to the other Nexus variants until ICS is ready.

There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.

matt2053 said:
There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.

Seriously CRYING for NOTHING. Take a breath and put the phone down. We will probably get the update soon. Chill out. And because of this you don't want another nexus? Have fun waiting for almost a year for updates.

Not crying for nothing. I just don't think it's fair.

kuntstubble said:
But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Ever try to compile your own ROM? It is very simple and Google has very detailed instructions. The most difficult part, if it is difficult is getting linux and your dev enviroment up and running. Then you can compile your own ROM from source which will add another dimension of fun to your phone

Life isnt fair little Guy. I'm sorry you have to live in such a terrible world where everyone has choice. Someday when you are old enough to vote you can try to elect someone who will force everyone to be identical and all own Motorola razrs. Until that day comes, we will be stuck here forced to suffer as we wait for a small bugfix update that was much needed for hardware that isn't the same as the phone we own. Keep those dreams alive squirt. Never lose hope!
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kuntstubble said:
But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip

Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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kuntstubble said:
Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip
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It's been entertaining gentlemen, but please take it to PM if you wish to continue.

There was only one true "nexus" phone and that was the Nexus One. Google is now bright eyed about the making money from hardware business. Expect them to fold like a house of cards to the carriers in the US.
Dems the breaks.
(this is why nobody should support cdma phones)