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Hi gays,
last week I met with my friends, who are also keen on smartphone's topic. It turned out, that one of them has Htc Dream with Android, and another one has iPhone 3G with MacOS. I've got Htc with WM so we started discussing which OS is better.
After that conversation I want to hear your point of view. For you which of these three OS is better than remaining two and why?
Maybe I will start..
So for me the best is of course Windows Mobile, after using Dream for month, I got back to WM.
First, a lot of applications are free, there is no AppStrore or sth like this.
Second, Windows gives you possibility of interfering in OS, not as on Android or Mac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588649
Heniek_W said:
Maybe I will start..
So for me the best is of course Windows Mobile, after using Dream for month, I got back to WM.
First, a lot of applications are free, there is no AppStrore or sth like this.
Second, Windows gives you possibility of interfering in OS, not as on Android or Mac
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Well there's a misinformed opinion if I've ever read one...
1) Android = a lot of applications are free.
2) Android = can install applications from *anywhere* -- not just market. In other words, you get the best of everything.
3) Android = operating system is OPEN SOURCE which means that YOU have *ULTIMATE CONTROL* over it. Not so with WM.
Apple isn't too bad, it has a few features (albeit entirely hidden from the user) that are actually strong -- in terms of an operating system. Generally robust and stable. The GUI, nazi market, and locked out of user control aspects of it are horrid though.
WM is basically trash. Dangerous trash. You can't trust it. Everybody can take control over it. There is no real security (despite the BS that you might see). MS has a history of CRAP security... you remember W95? It has an interesting button on the login screen... *CANCEL*.... which basically logged the user in as ADMIN. In later versions, they took the cancel button away, but didn't make any real changes behind the scenes.
Summary:
Android is better than Apple,
Apple is better than WM.
WM is to be avoided like the plague. DIE WM DIE.
Based on hardware ... MacOS hands down.
God, I hate Apple!
I had a apple ,dont like a apple, also had android ,didnt like it too, now i am back with WM 6.5 And its better then the others.
I like WM ......
I choose WM. I like WM.
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Ok, but it was only compare WM and Android without MacOS
Because wm and android has something to do with this site
mac does not...
Ok, but whole articles in web iPhone is named 'smarthphone' and it automatically put iPhone on the same level as WM and Android
I can't place Android, but I'll take WinMo over "MacOS" any day.
And since this is a comparison of smartphone OSes, what happened to BlackBerry and Symbian?
ive used all three (and more mobileOSes) and android definitely takes the cake
The way I see it:
WM
Pros:
Exchange Sync (as well as google sync, etc.)
Lots of apps
Customizable / big hacking scene
Cons:
Old!
Apps suck (when compared to iphone/android apps)
Developer support for new apps is ... non-existent
Hacking scene is limited to certain devices (try getting a ROM for a phone that is not an XDA forums favorite!!!)
Always way too slow (maybe better with snapdragon but who knows what WM7 will do to that)
Availability of phones ... BAD! (e.g. HTC HD2)
Too expensive (when comparing hardware with iphone hardware/Nexus One)
iPhone
Pros:
Hardware is excellent
Exchange Sync (as well as google sync, etc.)
Lots of apps
Big developer support
Big hacking scene but not that customizable
Available NOW!
Big resale value
Cons:
Walled garden
iTunes
Apple douches
no customizations
Android
Pros:
Lots of apps
Big developer support
Up and coming hacking scene
Cons:
Lacking native exchange sync support
Big brother is watching you (try using one without a gmail login)
Hacking scene is limited to certain devices (try getting a ROM for a phone that is not an XDA forums favorite!!!)
With the exception of the Nexus One, hardware is too slow!
Only limited hardware availability
coolVariable said:
The way I see it:
WM
Pros:
Exchange Sync (as well as google sync, etc.)
Lots of apps
Customizable / big hacking scene
Cons:
Old!
Apps suck (when compared to iphone/android apps)
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Most apple apps are useless. The only reedeeming features are some of the games. and anyway I have many fun and useful apps for my WM phone
coolVariable said:
Developer support for new apps is ... non-existent
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This is a blatant lie. For a start what about companies like SPB and all the communities like this one? what about all the PPC freeware download sites? what about all the telecommunications companies?
coolVariable said:
Hacking scene is limited to certain devices (try getting a ROM for a phone that is not an XDA forums favorite!!!)
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There are other communities out there. you make the mistake of comparing one single phone with a huge veriety of other phones. Android and WM=Choice, Apple= get what your given.
coolVariable said:
Always way too slow (maybe better with snapdragon but who knows what WM7 will do to that)
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Subjective. not an argument. My WM phones speed is fine.
coolVariable said:
Availability of phones ... BAD! (e.g. HTC HD2)
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This isnt even an effective point. What are you basing this on? Subject to release dates there are a wide amount of places to get WM phones of all types. Phone companies, the internet, specialist stores, department stores, electronic stores ect.
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Too expensive (when comparing hardware with iphone hardware/Nexus One)
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again what? there are many WM phones and probrobly android phones that are cheaper than the iphone.maybe you want to do some reaserch before you splash out on your next phone eh?
coolVariable said:
iPhone
Pros:
Hardware is excellent
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except for bluetooth, sd card, camera, battery.
coolVariable said:
Exchange Sync (as well as google sync, etc.)
Lots of apps
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True, but the number of useful apps and the ones that get used again after the first couple of times are a fairly low percentage. Lots does not equal useful or fun.
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Big developer support
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Well i would hope so, why isnt this a point on WM and android phones as well tho?
coolVariable said:
Big hacking scene but not that customizable
Available NOW!
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Oh damn you got me there there are no android or WM phones on the market at all. *facepalm*
coolVariable said:
Big resale value
Cons:
Walled garden
iTunes
Apple douches
no customizations
Android
Pros:
Lots of apps
Big developer support
Up and coming hacking scene
Cons:
Lacking native exchange sync support
Big brother is watching you (try using one without a gmail login)
Hacking scene is limited to certain devices (try getting a ROM for a phone that is not an XDA forums favorite!!!)
With the exception of the Nexus One, hardware is too slow!
Only limited hardware availability
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hungry81 said:
Most apple apps are useless. The only reedeeming features are some of the games. and anyway I have many fun and useful apps for my WM phone
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That's just WM-fanboy-ism BS! 90% of new programs are not build for WM.
(bkite, an actual 'good' twitter client, etc)
I agree - the majority of apple apps is bull****. but at least developers support the platform.
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This is a blatant lie. For a start what about companies like SPB and all the communities like this one? what about all the PPC freeware download sites? what about all the telecommunications companies?
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Can say the same about those that you say about iphone apps. Most are BS.
hungry81 said:
There are other communities out there. you make the mistake of comparing one single phone with a huge veriety of other phones. Android and WM=Choice, Apple= get what your given.
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You obviously have no clue. Buy some XYZ WM phone and try getting ROMs etc. It's pathetic. It's even pathetic for some HTC phones on this forum.
hungry81 said:
Subjective. not an argument. My WM phones speed is fine.
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Wow ... you must be really slow in the head then. Especially the HTC phones have been the WORST performers speed wise.
hungry81 said:
This isnt even an effective point. What are you basing this on? Subject to release dates there are a wide amount of places to get WM phones of all types. Phone companies, the internet, specialist stores, department stores, electronic stores ect.
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Yeah. Please show me the uncountable WM phones available right now that have up-to-date and adequate hardware.
The number of phones with a CPU the equivalent of the iphone 3GS or the Nexus One ... is it one, two or three?
How many are available (I will even give you unlocked at full retail price) with US/Canadian/LatAm/Australian/NZ 3G ... none?
hungry81 said:
again what? there are many WM phones and probrobly android phones that are cheaper than the iphone.maybe you want to do some reaserch before you splash out on your next phone eh?
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Maybe go back and re-take that first grade math class?
Last I checked WM phones with WORSE hardware than the iphone or the nexus one cost MORE than those phones.
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except for bluetooth, sd card, camera, battery.
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Bluetooth? U retarded?
SD Card - I wish it had one ... but at least it has 32GB of memory. How much do WM/Android phones have ... best case is 1/64th?
Camera ... better than on the HTC craptaculars.
Battery ... non-removable battery is RETARDED. Battery life is the same as other smartphones.
hungry81 said:
True, but the number of useful apps and the ones that get used again after the first couple of times are a fairly low percentage. Lots does not equal useful or fun.
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Agree. But still better than NO support from developers (as WM is currently experiencing it)
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Well i would hope so, why isnt this a point on WM and android phones as well tho?
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Big dev support for iphone. No dev support for WM.
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Oh damn you got me there there are no android or WM phones on the market at all. *facepalm*
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And the number of phones that can actually compete with the iphone are endless ... wait. They are not. Most of those phones are piece-of-**** phones!
Unlike you, I don't want to spend a lot of $$$ for a piece-of-**** phone.
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Wow ... you must be really slow in the head then. Especially the HTC phones have been the WORST performers speed wise.
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He said it was subjective. You know, like how you're entitled to your opinion that the iPhone is awesome. And the blatant attack was unnecessary. Simply stating the rebuttal would have sufficed. When you attack someone on the internet, it has a tendency to detract from your credibility.
And I second his opinion. My Fuze has no problems running the applications I need it to.
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Yeah. Please show me the uncountable WM phones available right now that have up-to-date and adequate hardware.
The number of phones with a CPU the equivalent of the iphone 3GS or the Nexus One ... is it one, two or three?
How many are available (I will even give you unlocked at full retail price) with US/Canadian/LatAm/Australian/NZ 3G ... none?
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Do hardware specs really matter? If it can perform the tasks I need it to, a 6hz processor is all I would need. A prime example of this is the speed difference between the Nexus and the Droid. Is there a noticeable difference between the two, yeah, but the Droid is a good phone within its own right. Those extra like 500MHZ make very little difference in the grand scheme of things.
coolVariable said:
Bluetooth? U retarded?
SD Card - I wish it had one ... but at least it has 32GB of memory. How much do WM/Android phones have ... best case is 1/64th?
Camera ... better than on the HTC craptaculars.
Battery ... non-removable battery is RETARDED. Battery life is the same as other smartphones.
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SD card slot is invaluable (to me at least), and I'd actually much rather that than having to deal with iTunes (which even you put as a negative).
And what am I going to put onto my phone? Music? Load that onto an SD card. Its been much faster than having to wait around with iTunes in my experience. Files? Save them on the card plug it into the phone. Wanna do that with the iPhone? You have to email it to yourself (or jailbreak and use a file browser, ). Wanna upgrade the iPhone's storage capacity? Buy a new one.
With my iPhone, making it through the day with moderate use was impossible. The Fuze'll do it without breaking a sweat. I'll trade in that battery charger I had to carry with the iPhone for a couple micro SD cards.
And the camera on the first and second gen iPhones cannot compare to my Fuze. And the only reason I don't say anything about the 3GS is because I don't have experience with it.
coolVariable said:
Agree. But still better than NO support from developers (as WM is currently experiencing it)
Big dev support for iphone. No dev support for WM.
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You are really going to say that on XDA-Developers.
I think that speaks for itself.
coolVariable said:
And the number of phones that can actually compete with the iphone are endless ... wait. They are not. Most of those phones are piece-of-**** phones!
Unlike you, I don't want to spend a lot of $$$ for a piece-of-**** phone.
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And this is another one of those opinions you pass off as fact.
The only thing the iPhone has on my Fuze that I actually miss is the "iPod" app and the touchscreen. And neither of those reasons are big enough to make me return to the iPhone. I'll keep my Fuze and be happy...until AT&T gets Android. I'm excited about that!
Even though it's a bit late, I still believe Windows Mobile 7 will clean up the bad reputation of this OS.
In my opinion HTC HD2 is a lot better than the overpraised iPhone. Considering the high price of the iPhones I don't see a reason to buy them - since I already have all applications I need, the "developer support" is not an criteria for me.
By the way, YouTube is full of HD2 <-> iPhone comparison videos - most of them are fair and are worth watching.
coolVariable said:
That's just WM-fanboy-ism
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Or you know I might just like my phone?
coolVariable said:
Bluetooth? U retarded?
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No Im not but iphones bluetooth is. Iphones Bluetooth is known to be crippled, It cannot connect to other phones. Believe me, my friends with Iphones were frustrated when they found out. Whether jailbreaking can fix it or not its still a show of how petty Apple is, and its another reason why the iphone is no good. Why people defend Apple for crap like this is beyond me.
But dont take my word for it read these links or maybe you can just try it yourself.
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone/problem-with-iphones-bluetooth-30419.html
http://www.everythingicafe.com/foru...ct-to-another-phone-thru-bluetooth-49037.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_yo...Iphone_to_connect_to_other_devices_or_mobiles
AND OMG from the apple site forum themselves
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1296481
coolVariable said:
And the number of phones that can actually compete with the iphone are endless ... wait. They are not. Most of those phones are piece-of-**** phones!
Unlike you, I don't want to spend a lot of $$$ for a piece-of-**** phone.
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Thanks for your opinion, your wrong, but if your happy being wrong, then good for you.
Heniek_W said:
Hi gays,
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when the newness of these other operating systems die down windows will still be standing it just works and being so customizable is always gonna be a plus my iphone and android friends hate that i can make my phone look just like theirs in 3 minutes lol
* Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid- October (around 15 -16th), 2010. First handsets shipping in November/December – for the Holiday Season.
* Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5" and higher. We all of course heard that Android handsets with 2GHz CPU's are coming.
* New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4" and higher
* Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.
* Android's split into 2 branches becomes official. 3.0 for top of the line/high end devices. Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2
Hmm.. Seems like all the phones that are getting Android 2.2 now, will also get 3.0. Even if not officially, some XDA ROMs will make it possible.
I'm quite interested in all of this.
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* Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.
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i'm intrigued
I was already aware of the plans to scrape the manufacturers UI's will make for faster upgrading for the latest OS Version
hmm I am still on the verge for a decision. Should I get a nexus one right now or wait another 2-3 months until the new handsets are released. I just can't decide
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I was already aware of the plans to scrape the manufacturers UI's will make for faster upgrading for the latest OS Version
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This actually really seems a bit of a bad idea to me. As this is what makes each manufactures phone unique. Else its just gonna be a hardware race. Might as well make it like the iPhone OS then.
Hanafubuki said:
hmm I am still on the verge for a decision. Should I get a nexus one right now or wait another 2-3 months until the new handsets are released. I just can't decide
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At the rate of development in the mobile market, Id wait until the newer hardware is out, I.E 2GHz or Dual processors, Depending on how long that takes of course, And nobody wants to wait on getting a phone encase newer tech comes out the following week, It is rather disappointing when that happens.
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This actually really seems a bit of a bad idea to me. As this is what makes each manufactures phone unique. Else its just gonna be a hardware race. Might as well make it like the iPhone OS then.
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I got my HTC Desire for the hardware specs and not the UI which it was bundled with, It's nice but if I could have had the desire with the stock android I would have bought it like that!
I agree that this is a really bad time to buy a handset. 1Ghz (though in a 45 nm architecture) has been here for a relatively long time and it's obvious the newer processors are coming. Same for 800x480 (or 854x480).
More importantly, 3.0 means not being left in the dark as to whether or not your phone is ever going to get a firmware update.
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I agree that this is a really bad time to buy a handset. 1Ghz (though in a 45 nm architecture) has been here for a relatively long time and it's obvious the newer processors are coming. Same for 800x480 (or 854x480).
More importantly, 3.0 means not being left in the dark as to whether or not your phone is ever going to get a firmware update.
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You say 1GHz has been out for a really long time, But the desire was the first handset, atleast over here to get it with that being out in February, but actually finding somewhere selling it was difficult until the carriers had a hold of them really
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This actually really seems a bit of a bad idea to me. As this is what makes each manufactures phone unique. Else its just gonna be a hardware race. Might as well make it like the iPhone OS then.
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I'm tired of Sense UI being uninstallable, monolithic and only available on HTC phones. If they want to do that ****, it should be modular, portable, and optional.
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You say 1GHz has been out for a really long time, But the desire was the first handset, atleast over here to get it with that being out in February, but actually finding somewhere selling it was difficult until the carriers had a hold of them really
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htc HD2 had a Snapdragon back in November.
Bouncer5 said:
At the rate of development in the mobile market, Id wait until the newer hardware is out, I.E 2GHz or Dual processors,
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I don't know if i'd want a 2ghz device until the battery tech gets better. As it is, I have to carry an extra battery around with my n1. So I could imagine what a 2ghz device with a 1400mah or 1600mah battery would look like...
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Im using 3GS right now and will either upgrade to a WP or IP4/5, I am sick of Android feeling like its still in a beta stage and freezing, closing apps, lagging no matter what phone. Anyway back when I used the focus the UI was amazing! But it was missing features...IOS is great! Time for some new features though imo, has WP7 been upgraded to more features? And how long will those updates last for the current WP's? What in your opinion is the best WP? And ultimatly what do you think is better? Hopefully Apple announces what IOS5 will be like. I really like WP7 but it felt like it needed time to get more features and some Apps were not optimized properly(ebay) but wow! That os is like butter! If it keeps getting features I may have to go WP! Especially if IOS5 is the same old, But for now I guess I gotta stay IOS.
maybe you should wait until fall or september,then both iphone 4s and major updates for WP7 are released,that time you can make a better comparison.which phone to buy...
The Fall Update to WP is a pretty big one, and new hardware will come out with it so I'd wait. The OS as it is, is to me the best designed out there, and the features people have been aching for are almost all coming with Mango (the fall OS update). Its going to be pretty nice, but ultimately up to you what you like most.
you've already pointed out that ios is complete and mature, try a friends phone around christmas and see if wp7 updates are all they're claimed to be...
the iPhone/iOS really is matured. You know where the saying comes from "There is an app for that".
I am still missing a lot of apps I was using on the iPhone, which are not (yet) available for WP7. But I really like the look of feel of WP7.
Wait for Mango if you like simplified device working more or less without any trouble
and you don't miss some basics. The UI is consistent and very easy.
For more sophisticated and better equipped device look somwhere else.
doministry said:
Wait for Mango if you like simplified device working more or less without any trouble
and you don't miss some basics. The UI is consistent and very easy.
For more sophisticated and better equipped device look somwhere else.
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IMO the UI on Wp7 blows iOS out of the water. It's simple yet still highly functional. I keep making my older and less technical users go to WP7 devices. They all seem to love it and I see them on their phones all the time - I'm sure their productivity is tanking lol.
Ignorance is Bliss, as they say.
But I'd wait until Mango and IP5 is our and make a more informed decision.
Right now WP7 can't hold a candle to iOS, but the update will be big. Unfortunately it's months off so you'll have to use a phone that has 30+% less functionality than your 3GS and many showstoppers (and lack of Apps) if you upgrade NOW.
I'd wait.
Wait for iPhone4S/5 and WP7 Mango update, and then decide. You might look into Samsung Galaxy SII as well, it's very fast. Maybe more device coming out with Dualcore/Quadcore that improves Android. WP7 is still in beta stage imho.
I've been using wp7 since October when I replaced my 3gs, and I've missed nothing so far.and that's been very honest, the thing is all I use to use on the iPhone was Facebook eBay satnav n a few more apps so the 300k appstore didn't matter to me. You've gotta think about the features and apps u need. Upgrading to wp7 guarantee u mango update regardless of the handset you choose.
Wp7 Focus
wp7 for sure, the metro UI is amazing.
I just bought a WP& phone, will post what i think of it, just hope the app market kicks off and MS add more functionality and that it becomes moddable
opti7 said:
I just bought a WP& phone, will post what i think of it, just hope the app market kicks off and MS add more functionality and that it becomes moddable
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Functionality is more than coming:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084161
Marketplace is already pretty good considering dev's cant create certain apps yet (Mango SDK will have all the 1500+ API's available, many of which will be used to create these lacking apps).
If you are looking for heavy modification, it may not be the platform for you, but people will definitely be modding it. Just not the extent WM & Android users are probably used to.
I went with the iPhone4, Im still gonna wait and see how WP7 goes and see what Apple does with IOS5, then I can make my Dec with what I want, but Ive heard from a lot of news sources that WP7 is doing pretty bad in sales and that its really not catching on at all, hopefully it dosnt go the way of the Kin phones...
As some have already said, I would probably wait for the Mango update and iPhone 5 before making the decision. I got a WP7 and I really enjoy it, but I think to make a fair choice, you should wait to pick between the two.
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I went with the iPhone4, Im still gonna wait and see how WP7 goes and see what Apple does with IOS5, then I can make my Dec with what I want, but Ive heard from a lot of news sources that WP7 is doing pretty bad in sales and that its really not catching on at all, hopefully it dosnt go the way of the Kin phones...
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Actually sales of wp7 from start till now are better then sales of iphone when it came out for same amount of time + soon nokia will arrive with their wp7 phones and wp7 is gonna blow the market
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Actually sales of wp7 from start till now are better then sales of iphone when it came out for same amount of time + soon nokia will arrive with their wp7 phones and wp7 is gonna blow the market
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Nokia phones in 2012 which is dumb imo, why not get it rolling out as quickly as possible?
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Nokia phones in 2012 which is dumb imo, why not get it rolling out as quickly as possible?
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They are doing it as quickly as possible. Its a major change at Nokia, it doesn't happen overnight. Nokia is planning for a late 2011 release of their first phone(s), and they are planning a whopping 12 devices (rumored so far) in 2012 running wp7 (including a dual core N8 version with a 12MP high optics camera). They will be using both qualcomm chips and SE dual core chips according to forbes.
http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwo...bes.com: Technology News)&utm_content=Twitter
There will also be some pretty nice second gen phones from Samsung, HTC, LG ect so people should have quite a few nice ones to choose from.
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They are doing it as quickly as possible. Its a major change at Nokia, it doesn't happen overnight. Nokia is planning for a late 2011 release of their first phone(s), and they are planning a whopping 12 devices (rumored so far) in 2012 running wp7 (including a dual core N8 version with a 12MP high optics camera). They will be using both qualcomm chips and SE dual core chips according to forbes.
http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwo...bes.com: Technology News)&utm_content=Twitter
There will also be some pretty nice second gen phones from Samsung, HTC, LG ect so people should have quite a few nice ones to choose from.
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If the OS is up to par with IOS in terms of features and Apps by the time Nokias phone comes, thats my next phone, Nokia=Fantastic hardware+Camera, Crap Symbian...
I am planning to buy hd7s should I buy now or wait for new devices with better hardware
Thanks in advance
I think it's a good time to buy a wp7, mango comming out (soon) And new hardware hmmmmm I think there will be some phones with a qwerty keyboard but thats it no big hardware upgrades
better wait
IMO, it is better to wait until mango comes out and some more phones with better hardware. Though WP7 is good enough, it is still yet to get so many features. Being Mango the biggest update, we need to see how much level , does it take the OS. And regarding hardware, all WP phones are just as per minimum hardware requirements by MS and no phone yet which makes you say WOW.
I own focus now and i do like it.
Currently my plan is to wait until Mango and possibly any new phones and take the call b/w a WP7 and iPhone 5.
neitin said:
I am planning to buy hd7s should I buy now or wait for new devices with better hardware
Thanks in advance
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Will it support 3G in India? Nokia has plans for WP7 in India. I will say wait and see what they have to offer.
It is good to wait...most probably the new mango device will be come out during september or october,by ZTE....if you want go for nokia,you may have to wait until end of this year...
I'm pretty sure new devices will have a big difference with current devices,don't ever buy the device now,because they still using qualcomm 1st gen 1ghz snapdragon processor.
Furthermore,new devices most probably will be equipped with front facing camera,Gyroscope,better processor,better camera,higher ram,better screen and etc...so it is good to wait since it is not too long from now.
Don't choose the way like me,feel regret to be the first adopter of WP7,software flaws can be fixed...but hardware never...think twice
You can always wait my friend, there'll be always new better hardware.
but now, (at least here in europe) WP7 is an epic fail, and they are cleaning the stocks of WP7 phones. I got mine operator free (LG) for 199€ some months ago, it was more than 400€ worth, some had something like 640€ price (maybe due the 16gb storage). I wanted the Trophy for 149€, but it was actually out of stock.
Maybe they got remplaced by some new Android Galaxys clones.
If you wait until mango, maybe the prices will rise again (althoug I don't think so)
I read somewere that the WP7 operating system doesn't support dual core.
If its right, than I think there won't be better hardware until WP8 or Windows 8
If you buy right now a tegra phone, maybe you'll regret it, because news are coming, with 3DS-like screens, higher res displays, Windows 8 based phones and on and on...
You'll wait forever.
The only thing to do, is what I did, get a WP7 as cheap as possible, and hope that mango will bring some new features, and that our phone will be W8 upgradable...
yea,somehow agree with you...buy the phone as cheap as possible...because you might just want to try out the whole new OS,but it does not means it works perfectly for you.
Remember,is buy the phone at a cheap price,not sign a f**king cheap contract,never sign a contract.
If you want something last long,I reckon samsung galaxy s 2,its product life at least 1 or 2 years.Just like galaxy s
don't wait
buy an android I was once a windows mobile guy, android is better and there is more device to pick from. Microsoft mess up big time with this one.
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Thanks everyone for your replies I think it makes sense to wait till September
What Im doing is getting a new contract and getting S 2 then im going to sell it when nokia releases their wp7 device and buy it pay as you go. I make actully make money if my contract is cheap. However I like to change my device every few months.
Saved me from asking the same question. My contract has just run out and I have switched to a sim only deal. Still very happy with my Hd2.
I so badly wanted the HD7 bu have now decided to wait until I see what happens over next few months Instead of getting bogged down with a long contract now.
Consumer are on the loosing end ;(
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
Android users unite, demand upgrades
The state of Android software support is ridiculous, and some Android users have their heads in the sand and make excuses for the problem.
As a group we should demand software updates. 6 months ago Google and their partners in the open handset alliance pledged to address the issue of software updates and nothing has come of this. I still own a Droid Charge only officially running an Android version that came out in 2009.
What has Samsung done since releasing my Charge? Released the Stratosphere, as well as numerous other devices across other carriers.
If you think the average consumer does not care that their phone isn't running the latest software, then you may be correct. But, the average consumer sure as heck cares that his phone does not have the features of other competing companies. Also, stability is another issue, some phones are left running unstable software.
Do not ignore this problem. Android will lose the war if this continues. If this is being compared to the PC market, we are in 1989, Android could be any number of platforms that doesn't make it.
If you care about the platform, demand more of the platform.
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The state of Android software support is ridiculous, and some Android users have their heads in the sand and make excuses for the problem.
As a group we should demand software updates. 6 months ago Google and their partners in the open handset alliance pledged to address the issue of software updates and nothing has come of this. I still own a Droid Charge only officially running an Android version that came out in 2009.
What has Samsung done since releasing my Charge? Released the Stratosphere, as well as numerous other devices across other carriers.
If you think the average consumer does not care that their phone isn't running the latest software, then you may be correct. But, the average consumer sure as heck cares that his phone does not have the features of other competing companies. Also, stability is another issue, some phones are left running unstable software.
Do not ignore this problem. Android will lose the war if this continues. If this is being compared to the PC market, we are in 1989, Android could be any number of platforms that doesn't make it.
If you care about the platform, demand more of the platform.
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Yeah this is true, I'd definitely have to agree. Don't get me wrong, I love Android, but there are some things I wish they would fix. Like the caller waiting feature, it should be updated to be more user friendly. Why should you have to hang up and wait for the automatic call back? They need to rebuild that part of the ui where you can.
Very interesting article. Very true also. It is a sad and troubling issue unfortunately for us. Software support and updates seem to be getting worse and worse for us Android users.
Good thing i got my nexus handset...kind of helps as at least i know google will keep rolling out the updates for at least 18 to 24 months.
The problem is with the big phone manufactures...they skin android too deep and take too long to clear up their mess in order to update the builds. Also they just want us to buy new phones every few months it seems. I intend to see my nexus s contract through to the remaining 12 months for sure. Ice Cream Sandwich looks delicious by the way!
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All they do is release a new model so they force us to buy new device, i might go back to iPhone I am really on the edge.
Well LG just impressed my by updating my moms LG Shine Pus ( think GSM Ally) from 2.1 to 2.3 and i mean the only thing that phone is lacking in is processor. 480x800 screen, 512 ram and a wait for it 600mhz processor. And it is a phone which doesn't require a data plan so my mom only pays like $20 a month for it
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Well LG just impressed my by updating my moms LG Shine Pus ( think GSM Ally) from 2.1 to 2.3 and i mean the only thing that phone is lacking in is processor. 480x800 screen, 512 ram and a wait for it 600mhz processor. And it is a phone which doesn't require a data plan so my mom only pays like $20 a month for it
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If you have no data plan, that means she just use the phone to call and text, she does not need update, this is sad for the smartphone users with data
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If you have no data plan, that means she just use the phone to call and text, she does not need update, this is sad for the smartphone users with data
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Yeah well when we were going to get the phone it was a cheap slider dumb phone and we walked out with one of those and with froyo it brought speed increments which help on the phone and i mean my moms not the kind who even uses data just games and such
Totally agree. Fragmentation is a major issue and a lot of people don't realize that if the issues aren't griped about then they have no reason to fix them.
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Totally agree. Fragmentation is a major issue and a lot of people don't realize that if the issues aren't griped about then they have no reason to fix them.
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Yes a lot of android user know that, they just don't want to admit that sometime they visit android market and download an app and found out the app crashes and wouldn't not work on their device, and still they don't want to say it, because they always want android to win vs apple, rim and wp7, the funny thing is they are not even part of the company, and will manufacturers don't update their device but can release new devices with an updated android OS, so people with money on their hand sell their phone and buy new android device just to update, they want android to win but they do not realize that android is sucking the life out of their pocket.
ICS is too late for it, but I hope J(ellybean) functions more like a launcher and its theme. Just mass update the background OS for all phones (whether through OTA or through website), and let manufacturer/telcom update their skin independently, so that consumers don't have to wait for the (unreliable) promise from manufacturer/telcom.
You hate android, good work, insert_manufacturer fanboy.
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Yes a lot of android user know that, they just don't want to admit that sometime they visit android market and download an app and found out the app crashes and wouldn't not work on their device, and still they don't want to say it, because they always want android to win vs apple, rim and wp7, the funny thing is they are not even part of the company, and will manufacturers don't update their device but can release new devices with an updated android OS, so people with money on their hand sell their phone and buy new android device just to update, they want android to win but they do not realize that android is sucking the life out of their pocket.
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Are we guaranteed by policy that the phones need to be updated? If anyone can check the sales agreement, is it mentioned anything about the future software update?
I have not checked, but I think there is no such obligation from manufacturer. So, in essence they are not breaking the law. We buy a phone on what it has presently, not speculating about future enhancements.
It would be great to have manufacturers give more attention to this update issue. But I doubt anyone could hold them accountable.
It's also obvious that if any of these get updated, it would be only the premier ones, not the budget models.
zeekiz said:
You hate android, good work, insert_manufacturer fanboy.
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You just can handle the truth jerk butt
spirikitik said:
You just can handle the truth jerk butt
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Android vs iSO is exactly the same as pc vs console, some people enjoy having freedom on their devices, and constantly upgrade, some people want something like a console, nothing ground breaking but has a bit better stability but no flexibility. (I'm assuming your an Apple fan boy due to the lack of depth to your argument, also perceivable intelligence).
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Android vs iSO is exactly the same as pc vs console, some people enjoy having freedom on their devices, and constantly upgrade, some people want something like a console, nothing ground breaking but has a bit better stability but no flexibility. (I'm assuming your an Apple fan boy due to the lack of depth to your argument, also perceivable intelligence).
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You got me wrong, it is just this fact hurt your ego about the stat of updates and you see it and still don't believe it, you are the android fanboy and for that makes you blind, and your intelligence, stay stagnant like a swamp.
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You hate android, good work, insert_manufacturer fanboy.
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this is the attitude of a fanboy. "Oh, you don't like my OS? You must be a wp7/iOS fanboy."
Gotta say, I'm a fanboy for no OS and have them all but as far as hardware goes, I'm slowly becoming a Nokia fanboy
Lol z33 you really are funny. And quite the fibber.
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spirikitik said:
All they do is release a new model so they force us to buy new device, i might go back to iPhone I am really on the edge.
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So do you have iOS5 installed on your iphone, iphone 3G?
Which app is exclusive to gingerbread?
I think you should go back to iphone. It looks like you've made up your mind.
As for updates, US carrier versions tend to be slower and no surprises there with all the bloatware and restrictions they have to build into the firmware
Also there are ton of posts on xda where users with 2.3.3/2.3.4 devices complain about not receiving 2.3.5 updates and same goes for 3.0/3.1 users not receiving 3.2 update without knowing what that new revision brings to the table
As corps begin to adopt smartphones, the first thing a CIO will ask, "What's the Product Life Cycle?"
3GS gets iOS5 but the Nexus One won't get ICS!? Lowe's just ordered 42,000 iPhones, I would have too. Pull your head out Google!!! It's not just the kids who want updates but the grown ups too!
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