[Q] Optimus 3D or LG Thrill to use on T-Mobile? - LG Optimus 3D

I've read that the Optimus 3D has T-Mobile AWS bands, while the AT&T version only has the bands for its carrier, is that true? Or would either not work on T-Mobile for 3G or 4G? Just really want a 3D phone, but don't want to pay $80+ a month by going with Sprint or AT&T.

I'm on T-Mobile using the Optimus 3D.
Both the thrill and Optimus 3D can be used for t-mobile, since both supports the network. However you would only be able to access the 2g network.
If you want to use the 3g network, forget about the thrill and go for Optimus 3D. But not all Optimus 3D, they come in two different bands. Search for the one with 1700. Any other one can't go on 3g.
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DevJackey said:
I'm on T-Mobile using the Optimus 3D.
Both the thrill and Optimus 3D can be used for t-mobile, since both supports the network. However you would only be able to access the 2g network.
If you want to use the 3g network, forget about the thrill and go for Optimus 3D. But not all Optimus 3D, they come in two different bands. Search for the one with 1700. Any other one can't go on 3g.
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Thanks a lot for the help. Any idea of a place in the US (other than eBay) that would sell that specific version? And how would I go about getting one of the new "value" plans with T-Mobile - I can still get the nice pricing and whatnot without buying a phone directly from T-Mobile, right?

I can't really help much with the plans because I dont work for T-Mobile.
I bought my phone from Ebay, here's the link. I'm not sure why you don't want to purchase on ebay, the seller is a trusted seller. But just incase you don't want to purchase on ebay... the seller has a real store. Here's the link for that. Since I bought from them, I can confirm their trusted and the phone does run on T-Mobile's 3G Network.

DevJackey said:
I can't really help much with the plans because I dont work for T-Mobile.
I bought my phone from Ebay, here's the link. I'm not sure why you don't want to purchase on ebay, the seller is a trusted seller. But just incase you don't want to purchase on ebay... the seller has a real store. Here's the link for that. Since I bought from them, I can confirm their trusted and the phone does run on T-Mobile's 3G Network.
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I ended up finding it out myself, SIM card is free and I can get the $50 plan I want through a 2-year contract - unlocked phone is fine.
And it's not that I don't trust eBay or anything (I buy and sell on it regularly), I was just wondering if there's anywhere else I could buy it (either for cheaper or for a better return policy or something).
EDIT: Also, to be clear - T-Mobile 4G does not work for it, right? I see mention of HSPA+ regarding the Optimus 3D in a few places...

magus57 said:
I ended up finding it out myself, SIM card is free and I can get the $50 plan I want through a 2-year contract - unlocked phone is fine.
And it's not that I don't trust eBay or anything (I buy and sell on it regularly), I was just wondering if there's anywhere else I could buy it (either for cheaper or for a better return policy or something).
EDIT: Also, to be clear - T-Mobile 4G does not work for it, right? I see mention of HSPA+ regarding the Optimus 3D in a few places...
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From my understanding, it's not able to go on the 4G network. However, I could be wrong. But I do doubt that it could.
I'm not sure where is a cheaper place to buy the phone, I bought mine over a month ago, and after a while of searching I decided that for this version of the Optimus 3D, the link I sent you had the best price. Good luck in finding one. Wonderful phone.

i bought mine at atgsm.com/LG_P920_Optimus_3D_Black_p/phone-lgp920black.htm
works on tmobile. i tested around 4Mbps. hope this helps
sorry can't post link. new to forum

Mine should be here tomorrow!!!
I just bought one from Negri Electronics. They are based in California and ship from Nevada. Their site confirms that the P920 model has 1700 (AWS) so you can use 3G with T-Mobile/Simple Mobile. (Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile MVNO that uses their bands and I think they have an unlimited everything type plan for $60 a month, but since they are tied to T-Mobile, if AT&T gets their nasty hands on them that will no longer be an option.)
The devices are unlocked so you will be good to go. Be careful though as another person said there are two Optimus 3Ds, one with 850/1900 (AT&T 3G P925G) and one with 900/1700/1900/2100 (T-Mobile 3G P920). Negri has both, and the T-Mobile version is 589.
LG UK link to the P920 specs showing 1700 band support: http://www.lg.com/uk/mobile-phones/all-lg-phones/LG-android-mobile-phone-P920.jsp
On another note, you won't readily (out of the box) be able to use WiFi calling or have access to T-Mobile's WiFi hotspot app, but since the devices are unlocked you may be able to sideload them or figure something else out. As we know, tethering on T-Mobile is A-OK.
[update: just got it and it is up and running. 3D aside this phone is classy, and it is smaller and lighter than a lot of reviews make it out to be. the 3D is a total bonus on top of a nice phone. very happy.]

even with p920 there are two versions. one with tmoble 3g and
one doesn't. look for 1700mhz band or ask seller. data im getting around
4-8Mb. should work with tzone

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HTC Fuze on T-Mobile

Hello,
I am very interested in purchasing an HTC Fuze and using it on T-Mobile. Is any one currently doing this? Can you please give me your feedback.
Also, what are the unlock solutions for the HTC Fuze from AT&T. I know I can just call then in and ask for a code but is there another way? Also is there any lock on flashing ROM's?
Where is the cheapest place to buy a Fuze without a contract? Right now I have a deal for $375. Should I jump upon this?
Thanks in advanced
HTC Fuze and using it on T-Mobile, you must have the subsidy unlock code. Even after you unlock it, you still could not enjoy the 3G (assume you're in t-mob 3G coverage) because i lack of 1700 MHz band. Unlock code you can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426609 I don't think at&t gonna give it out for non-subcriber. You may want to try your luck, then.
Flashing ROMs different than att, you must have your phone in super CID status. Refer to the link above.
$375 w/o contract and still whinning? Could you please disclose that source? I want to get some more.
I am currently with T-Mo and using a Touch Pro. So long as you can live with EDGE speeds you should have no problems. I went to a local wireless reseller to get my phone unlocked. Once it was I lodaded the Elite ROM. I have been using that for about two weeks now and I haven't had any problems. So far the only big issue I have is the "stylus issue". I'm hesitant to inquire about a replacement as the GPS along with everything else works great.
I just wanted to toss in my experience. I purchased an unlocked AT&T Fuze and am using it on T-Mobile. I got sick of waiting around for a decent Windows Mobile device to replace my Dash. I was able to get it for ~$420.
So far so good. I've heard that my voice sounds a bit odd, semi robotic. I'm not sure if that is a problem with the mic or what is going on, but I've ordered a Jawbone 2 so I'm not really worried about it.
EDGE is EDGE, it'll do for now until T-Mobile will get their act together and release a decent device, the G1 just won't cut it.
If you have other questions feel free to ask.
J.
How and where can I get it unlocked?
Is the ROM locked too from changing ROMs?
look at the link in the 2nd post
Wow,
sorry I didn't even see that whole sentence. I think I'll be purchasing an unbranded HTC Touch PRO anyways.
Thanks a lot for your help
I have an unlocked version that was purchased in Germany from the guy I bought it from. I may have paid a bit, but unlocked phones are usually much more expensive. The version I have has the second camera. Anyway...I'm using it on T-Mobile and it's working well. I did put the latest AT&T radio on it and it seems to have better signal. As for 3G.....well..T-Mobile only has 1 tower in my area so it'll be a while before 3G makes it here. The owners manual stated that to use 3G your sim card must be a 3G enabled sim card. I would think that you could use 3G if you have one of these cards and are in a 3G network. I could be wrong.... I hope it'll work!
alfredob1 said:
I am currently with T-Mo and using a Touch Pro. So long as you can live with EDGE speeds you should have no problems. I went to a local wireless reseller to get my phone unlocked. Once it was I lodaded the Elite ROM. I have been using that for about two weeks now and I haven't had any problems. So far the only big issue I have is the "stylus issue". I'm hesitant to inquire about a replacement as the GPS along with everything else works great.
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I have a t-mobile data plan, do I cancel that but can still use EDGE or do I keep that on to USE EDGE TOO? And how do I USE EDGE FOR IT?
Hi all, I am also on Tmobile with a fuze. I unlocked it myself with the help of a purchased unlocker from this forum (thx). I have been running ROMeOs and 1.11 radio I believe. I was wondering about the new att radio on the tmobile network. Does it drain the battery faster? That is what I have read. I love the fuze and being able to actually do something with it besides the [email protected] wing that tmobile released. I am happy that they will be releasing a touch pro 2 release soon but that will be 6 months or more. I got tired of waiting also.
Lets keep this thread going and make the touch pro really usable on tmobile!
As far as having a dataplan on tmobile, I dont use one. I just use tzones, which still gives me a slow data connection, but only costs me 5.99 a month. Better alternative from $25. Edge is the only thing that the touch pro/fuze will be able to use on the tmobile network since it lacks the 1700mhz that tmobile has choosen for 3g.... kinda sucks.. but that is life.
Check blownfuze.org too. great site for the newb fuze user.
I purchased mine already unlocked for $300.00 from a guy looking to get an I-Phone ( what an idiot ). He said it was only 1 month old and it was and still is in mint condition.
The rom I'm using is in my sig, about to upgrade to his newest version RRE 5.8. Radio is 1.02.25.32 and I haven't had any problems what so ever.
I love it.
The skinny
you can get a branded one and buy it w/o a contract and ATT customer care HAS TO give you the unlock code. May take a couple of days but they will do it. If they say no then ask for a supervisor. As long as you paid full price they can't deny you the unlock code. I used to do contract work for ATT as well as work for Tmo
t-mobile or ATT ?
I'm currently with t-mobile and get good reception everywhere. I don't plan on paying more to get 3G or any data plan. I just want to use wifi at work and home.
I want to buy the cheapest used HTC Fuze I can find as long as I can call someone get an unlock code and flash it to one of xda-portal's best firmware mods.
Other than 3G, is there any reason to choose ATT over T-mobile (since my current plan is cheaper than I can get at ATT) I do want to get all the functionality of an unbranded phone.
Overall cost locked vs unlocked
Are there any differences in the the physical structure of an AT&T vs. unlocked phone?
I need a new plan.... I can get a Fuze from Amazon for $150. The contract requires a data plan for 6 months which is 6 x 30 = 180. The data portion can be canceled after that without any penalties. In the long run I want the phone for wi-fi, not data. So the Amazon cost is $330 after 6 months. I can get a bit of interest on the money that sits in the savings account each month.
Unlocked Fuzes on eBay are going for $340-450 most of the time. Believe it or not, someone recently paid $909 + $10 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280334270835
So if I need you need a new plan, it's cheaper to get a Fuze from Amazon and not wonder if the "New, unopened" eBay phone is really brand new. If there are other considerations please let me know so I can make an informed decision.
Just an FYI. If you have or get web2go the $9.99 data plan from TMobile, they fixed it to where it will not work on unlocked/non-TMobile phones. Mine and many others with this problem just occurred very recently.
I believe there are a few people that had found a work around or a temporary fix for this. But I just went ahead and purchased the $24.99 data plan so I won't have to worry if my internet will work or not when I need to use it.
If you can get an unlocked Fuze for a good price, jump on it. Flash you a custom rom and you will be very pleased. I know I am.
Free Refurb Fuze at AT&T
Story on Mobility Digest
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/att-is-giving-away-refurb-fuzes-for-free/
AT&T link
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...el=nofollow&wtSlotClick=1-001X6Q!CIPHMQ01-1-1
NHComp said:
Story on Mobility Digest
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/att-is-giving-away-refurb-fuzes-for-free/
AT&T link
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...el=nofollow&wtSlotClick=1-001X6Q!CIPHMQ01-1-1
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Really wish I woulda seen that before I put my order in with Amazon. From what I hear, Amazon's cellular division is not too keen on giving refunds.
I am on T-Mo (USA) and thinking of getting a fuse (unlocked) will i be unable to get 3G at all with this phone?
yeah no tmobile 3g with the fuze. but i have the tzones plan for $6 a month back when they still offered it and can use unlimited internet just fine.
yea ..i just ordered a scratched screen fuze for $200. i was hoping flashing the rohdium radio would give 3g but i read about that bricking the phone. so is it it ever gonna be possible?

help! prepay sim for htc desire in New york, which to buy for DATA???

i have a uk vodafone desire, its custom with aosp roms and us unlocked.
I am going to new York for a week and i need to get a pre pay sim, mainly just for data, i don't care about calls and texts as i just want access to email and Skype to call home.
I have looked at some of the sites, but i dont know which one to get, can anyone recommend one?
I have a truphone simcard here.
which i need to pay£10 to get the membership this will give me local rates in uk or usa no matter where i am then i can buy a USA number for £5 and then buy some credit maybe £10 may do.... so that's £25 about $50, so i guess thats the bench mark. The desire is quad band so should work over there.
Did you take your trip already?
Your UK Desire doesn't have any 3G bands for the USA, so you'll be stuck with 2G/EDGE. T-Mobile USA has a $1.49/day data pass that is "unlimited". They throttle after 30 MB daily usage, but the speed reduction only shows up in 3G mode. You won't get 3G so you won't notice. It'll just be slow all the time...
If you want faster than EDGE you'll need a separate device.
Missed it. As been already. Bought a samsung fakeberry while I was there. Expensed the topups. Was just for email, for 5days.
But thanks I will look at t. Mobile next time. I bought at&t..... they suck. With the new job I will be going NYC regularly.
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iamdarren said:
Missed it. As been already. Bought a samsung fakeberry while I was there. Expensed the topups. Was just for email, for 5days.
But thanks I will look at t. Mobile next time. I bought at&t..... they suck. With the new job I will be going NYC regularly.
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Okay, well if you will be visiting the USA regularly, you may want to consider buying in the US a phone with T-Mobile US compatible 3G frequencies. Most of the T-Mo US phones also have UMTS 2100 for the UK, so you'll get 3G back home.
Be warned, T-Mo US is pretty choppy too, but you get a better deal for data than AT&T.
Another option as long as we're talking new hardware - you could buy a prepaid MiFi device from Virgin Mobile USA (CDMA carrier, runs on Sprint's network) and purchase data for that. Use the wifi on your phone to tap into that instead of data roaming; and you can also run your laptop/tablet/etc on it. It won't do you much good anywhere outside the USA, but for some this is a viable option.

[Q] Will this thing work on att?

I am tied into a crappy AT&T contract for the next year or so, but I really want one of these things. If I buy one off contract on ebay, will it work on at&t if I stick my sim card in it?
I'm not 100% sure but I could swear that I read somewhere that it does not support att bands.
But even if it did you would still have unlock it lol
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Yup
It would work once u get it unlocked via an unlock code. But as said above, your 3g might not work. You will only be getting edge.
Yes the G2x will work just fine on Att. I live in a very rural area where all there is is edge an i use my G2x every day on the Att network as a roaming phone. my account is with tmobile but they have no coverage in some of my traveling area but i just use the network seach an it finds att an i have mostly full bars reception!! Gives me a smile i get to roam off of Att free of charge since they did me so crappy when i had a moto phone!
it will work on AT&T but only 2G (edge), no 3G o HSPA+. See here; http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/
It was advertised as quad band, but in fact, is not. I bought one unlocked the day it came out thinking it was quad, and it picked up EDGE only. Been getting sick of ATT crap phones though, so I took phone back to Best Buy for refund, called ATT and paid my ETF, then went down the street and opened up a tmo account with G2x at Costco. With the wifi calling feature, I have no regrets whatsoever. Best $300 ETF I've ever paid!!
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[Q] Asia/Europe Version Sensation for T-zone / Web2go?

I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
****ting said:
I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
xnifex said:
1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
Good question. Does the International version of the Sensational work on Tzones or Web2Go?
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****ting said:
Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
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The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
OccasionalDroid said:
The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
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That wasn't the question though, was it?
He wants to know if T-Mobile US will allow an Asia/Europe Sensation to work with grandfathered T-Zones or web2go data plans. It has nothing to do with the bands. It has to do with T-Mobile's locking down of certain smartphones so that they can't use T-Zones or web2go regardless if they have AWS or not.
Since the phone's not out yet in the U.S., the majority of posters here are from the EU. They have no idea what T-Zones are. For my international friends, it's a legacy dumb-phone plan that allows you to use 3/4G data on an unlimited basis for half the price of the smartphone data plan. He's asking about the European IMEI because if T-Mobile U.S. has it in their database than T-Zones will be blocked.
OP, I'd ask again when more people in the U.S. actually have the phone.
P.S. - Since all the phones have AWS, I'd imagine that HTC provided T-Mobile U.S. with the full range of IEMIs. Just guessing but it makes sense.
Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
Cheeze[iT] said:
Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
xnifex said:
should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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Thank you all for your answers, but this is my first thread in XDA. Since this phone is made in China, I can import one from China for less than $600. Would be interesting to see if T-mobile blocks all the IMEIs. I got my dad a Huawei U8150, which is the same as the T-mobile Comet, but T-mobile has no idea what that phone is. So it works fine on the web2go plan. I almost pull the trigger to have my friend in China ship me a sensation, but I'll wait for a couple more weeks.
Because I can get the EU version easier than the US version and wanted to be sure before I placed an order.... that and I was a little drunk
Now last question s about the rom, will the EU be able to have the US rom flashed to it
xnifex said:
should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
****ting said:
according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
onxda said:
Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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right, I guess we need a brave tester to let us all know.
I just got the HTC Incredible S, which does work on T-Zones/Web2go.
However, if someone does get Euro HTC Sensation, let us know if it works.
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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That's awesome! please let us know, i'm sure lots of people are eager to find out as well.
zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
Not many ratings for Hi-Mobile.net. I honestly wouldn't trust them.
Integrontech.com- has reviews and seller feedback. $599.99- free shipping.
Paten said:
Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
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I bought mine from Negri Electronics because i was watching reviews and this one review from like pocketnow or some pretty good review website said they got it from there and it was the cheapest i could find. it was $625 free shipping. but im from hawaii so i had to pay for the 2day air shipping for $30

[Q] INQ Cloud Touch OR LG Optimus One

As of now, im in the market for a NEW phone, off contract under $100
Currently i am using a CLIQ from the states. The problem with this phone is that in canada, the 3G on bell and rogers works on the same radios as AT&T,and therefore my phone only works with 2g.
I am on prepaid with speakout mobile(10$ for 2500 texts, 10$ for unlimited data) and it can access 3G AND 4G data on the rogers network, but as my phone can only use 2g i see no point in keeping it.
Now that its boxing day time i start looking through my flyers and i see a LG Optimus One for about 60$ and a INQ Cloud Touch for 90$ and im debating both of them. These are both on telus prepaid and need to be unlocked..
Now, i was wondering which phone would be better to buy?
The INQ Or the LG? Or is there another phones in that price range i should buy?
The INQ has a larger screen and a better camera with a greater visual appeal, but the LG has a huge Dev community with many roms, and it is cheaper.
So, i was wondering which phone would be a better buy? Im leaning towards the LG because of its rootablility and because i like [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408952"This ROM.[/URL]
Furthermore, i am wondering if there is a way with ABD or something like that to carrier unlock the Optimus one and be able to use it with another SIM. or would i have to do it the "Old fashioned way" and buy the unlock code?
Thanks for all the help
dont touch the inq its a horrid phone i had it here in the uk used it for 2 days the battery is evil and only lasted me 4 hours? like come and the lg is fine but maybe see if you can get beefy if you can or if you a great one is a zte blade

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