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[Q] Nexus S on Rogers Canada question.

Hi all,
I am interested on purchasing a Nexus S from ebay to replace my G1. I do have a couple of questions before I jump both feet in it:
1- Does the Nexus S even work on the Roger's network in Canada? I got 2 years left on my contract.
2- I am guessing that the sim card from my G1 be used on the Nexus S?
3- Are there known performance issues with Nexus S/Rogers? Should I root the phone (CM7) to work better with the Rogers network?
Thanks in advance,
Heeter

man... if you are in the GTA area
buying it off P-mall will cost you less than buying it from eBay
and you even get to TEST it in the store before you check out, on eBay, you might get SCAMmed if it's a defective device, it's a huge hassle to recover your money back via paypal
1) yes it works Quad Band great as phone, EDGE only unless you have AWS 1700+2100 (up link & down link)
2) of course, normal size SIM card, not the micro size ones
3) no problem at all, ROM performance have nothing to do with network you are using

Hey AllGamer,
Thanks for your response!
What is P-Mall? I live in Edmonton, not Toronto. Would I be able to order online from this PMall?
Also, I didn't know that there was 2 sizes of SIM cards, Which one is the one I have on the back of my HTC Dream?
Finally, what is EDGE? Is this something that I have to ask of Rogers out here in Edmonton? Will the Nexus S work without this EGDE?
Thanks again, AllGamer.
Heeter

P-mall = Pacific Mall
4300 Steeles Ave. E,
Markham, Ontario
L3R 0Y5
Tel: (905) 470-8785
Fax: (905) 470-9234

there are like 20+ cell phone stores inside that mall, and you can barter for price reduction.
but since you are in Edmonton... i guess Pmall is out of the question, unless you plan to take a trip here in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) in the next few weeks/months
There are people from as far as Florida/California that will drive all the way here to shop at that mall... (it's kinda crazy if you ask me)
EDGE = 2G / 2.5G
HSPDA = 3G (also known as H) or 3.5G
HSDPA+ = 4G (not yet available for the public in Canada, but already being tested in small groups Windmobile, Telus, Bell)
Normal SIM card = lots of extra plastic and a corner chopped off
Mini SIM card = all the plastic material removed, only the SIM chip remains

Awesome, Thanks for your responses.
I do have a full size SIM card. I just looked at it, lots of plastic around chip and a corner is cutoff.
No Plans to travel to T.O. in the near future, . I was assuming that PMall was a store, not a whole mall.
My phone is currently HSPDA from Rogers, so it will be the same for the Nexus S.
Thanks for the great info.....
Heeter

Not sure why people would drive from Florida to shop there when they could just get a nexus S in the US from best buy for $99 and break the 2 yr contract early and only pay a $200 ETF plus a month of service ($30 voice plan) and $35 activation fee. (I happen to be from FL and live in Toronto lol)
I haven't been to pacific mall recently but I doubt you could find a brand new Nexus S there for under 600 cad. The prices I see for phones in those shops are always astronomically high when I compare it to US prices... or even local kijiji or craigslist ads.
Anyway, to the OP: the Nexus S doesn't have rogers/ATT 3G frequences, so it would only work on edge. Wait for the ATT version to be released and then reconsider. OR switch to wind and pay $40/mo for unlimited everything and stop burning money by being a rogers customer lol.

Thanks Dinan,
What is the wind mobile network specs? I do know that this was the first and last contract I ever sign with rogers again. I am at $50/month with no voicemail.
Thanks
Heeter

Well if you've never heard about Wind then you should probably check out their website. Their coverage is a lot less than what rogers offers, but if you live in a downtown core like Toronto or vancouver (or edmonton, I think they have service where you are) it's pretty good. They had a holiday miracle plan which was $40/month for unlimited voice nationwide (and even to the U.S.), unlimited 3G data, unlimited internationally, and voicemail. I think they have a plan which offers almost all of that (except U.S. calling) for $45/month.
Heeter said:
Thanks Dinan,
What is the wind mobile network specs? I do know that this was the first and last contract I ever sign with rogers again. I am at $50/month with no voicemail.
Thanks
Heeter
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you should not be buying the nexus s right now if you plan on using it with rogers. the nexus s will not work on rogers 3g network, so its pretty much a waste. you will be stuck on EDGE service which is slightly faster than dial up 56k.
the nexus s is supposed to be coming out with a rogers 3g version in a few weeks to a month, so really it would be wise to wait until the proper version is released.

RogerPodacter said:
you should not be buying the nexus s right now if you plan on using it with rogers. the nexus s will not work on rogers 3g network, so its pretty much a waste. you will be stuck on EDGE service which is slightly faster than dial up 56k.
the nexus s is supposed to be coming out with a rogers 3g version in a few weeks to a month, so really it would be wise to wait until the proper version is released.
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Great, Thanks for your input, RogerPodacter.
Will it be issued through rogers? Or will it be sold through Google to work on rogers network?
Heeter

Heeter said:
Great, Thanks for your input, RogerPodacter.
Will it be issued through rogers? Or will it be sold through Google to work on rogers network?
Heeter
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It will likely be sold direct from Google unlocked, but with rogers 3g bands. So you prob won't be able to get it cheap on contract.
However strong rumors claim that rogers did plan on officially selling it, so who knows. We'll just have to wait and see. Should be very soon if It's going to happen.

RogerPodacter said:
you should not be buying the nexus s right now if you plan on using it with rogers. the nexus s will not work on rogers 3g network, so its pretty much a waste. you will be stuck on EDGE service which is slightly faster than dial up 56k.
the nexus s is supposed to be coming out with a rogers 3g version in a few weeks to a month, so really it would be wise to wait until the proper version is released.
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+1
Used my nexus s on rogers for a month and couldn't handle the data speed, edge is way to slow.
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G2x on AT&T?

Would it be possible to run this beast on AT&Ts network?

ookami614 said:
Would it be possible to run this beast on AT&Ts network?
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Yes, but you won't get 3g speeds.
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I heard that it is possible for at&t 3G ..but I think it would be a result if the merger goes through or not
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As of right now, not possible for 3g data. The phone doesn't have the baseband but there is a group that thinks the phone actually supports Att 3G but is locked down until the merger goes through. Would make sense that Tmo would keep it locked in order to maintain customers as long as possible.

hiko36 said:
As of right now, not possible for 3g data. The phone doesn't have the baseband but there is a group that thinks the phone actually supports Att 3G but is locked down until the merger goes through. Would make sense that Tmo would keep it locked in order to maintain customers as long as possible.
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I am totally hoping that ATT comes in, forces a massive switch to their network, and then allows everyone to update their phones inside of the current contracts.
I would get the G2x, keep it as a wifi machine or sell it on Ebay, and be able to get the Galaxy SII for the low contract price.
I want ATT to take over the towers, and give all the old users new hardware to work within the ATT system. And the T-Mobile data costs locked in. Great deal for everyone.
One thing for sure, if ATT comes in, they have to give the same 4G (3.5G++ or whatever you want to call T-Mobile 4G) service to all the G2x owners...one way or the other.
Heck if ATT is not able to finish the purchase they need to pay up 6 billion in penalties. A bunch of new phones to existing user, going out a new contract prices, is easy. Plus ATT has way more solid coverage in my area.
I went with the G2x hoping that it would become an orphaned phone in the ATT world....gets me a new piece of hardware on the cheep

I agree with this. If AT&T forces people into having crippled phones without offering heavily subsidized replacements on their new network then surely there will be an outcry ... with that said we could be getting a great upgrade deal for getting the shaft (but this would be nearly 2 years down the road so its sort of win win)
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tombaker1 said:
I am totally hoping that ATT comes in, forces a massive switch to their network, and then allows everyone to update their phones inside of the current contracts.
I would get the G2x, keep it as a wifi machine or sell it on Ebay, and be able to get the Galaxy SII for the low contract price.
I want ATT to take over the towers, and give all the old users new hardware to work within the ATT system. And the T-Mobile data costs locked in. Great deal for everyone.
One thing for sure, if ATT comes in, they have to give the same 4G (3.5G++ or whatever you want to call T-Mobile 4G) service to all the G2x owners...one way or the other.
Heck if ATT is not able to finish the purchase they need to pay up 6 billion in penalties. A bunch of new phones to existing user, going out a new contract prices, is easy. Plus ATT has way more solid coverage in my area.
I went with the G2x hoping that it would become an orphaned phone in the ATT world....gets me a new piece of hardware on the cheep
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Uhhh i guess you want plan costs to go through the roof. No one wants this merger to succeed. Tons of tmobile plans will disappear
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Several upcoming phones for Tmobile support AT&T 3G bands and it is quoted in several sources that "the bandband for AT&T will be locked until the merger goes through".
AT&T is putting up a pretty big wager guaranteeing it would go through. I don't see why it wouldn't. Sure AT&T would be the only major GSM carrier in the US but there is still plenty of competition (Verizon). Plus larger cities have their own local cell carriers.
They probably would also be subject to leasing out their frequencies to companies like Cricket and Boost Mobile, that piggy back off other carriers towers.
I personally think it is a good idea because there is only so much frequency bandwidth for GSM and having to split it up among different groups creates problems. Not all area's have all the frequencies but once the merger goes through, phones would support all and would be able to connect to anything. This means more signal and bandwidth for everyone.
Sure I dislike AT&T but I did like their service (back before the iFone). It then became over crowded and I couldn't use it at my house. For travel, AT&T > Tmobile. At home, where I am most of the time, Tmobile>AT&T. If they combine, it will be the best of both worlds.

[Q] Infuse on what other carriers?

So I'm in an all out WAR with AT&T right now. Not going to get into anything beyond the fact that their customer service reps treated me like flaming doodoo while i was nothing but nice. Game over
So any who, what other carriers in the USA will my infuse work on? Including the virgin mobile and boost and whatever other cheap unlimited plans out there?
Thanks!
Kt
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Let me add that it has to be a reliable network lol

I think it is called Straight Talk, it uses the same frequencies as Att.
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I was thinking about going to them when my contract is up as well.
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T-Mobile, straight talk, metro pcs ...I've unlocked and successfully ran on those networks
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sweet metro pcs has decent service around here. Awesome!

Really Do your research before you jump ships. Infused works on metro? And what speeds would you be getting?
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jayson94538 said:
Really Do your research before you jump ships. Infused works on metro? And what speeds would you be getting?
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Yea I will for sure. but right now at&t has really screwed things up with me. They've treated me like crap and called me names. yes. seriously. and yes i was being nice. long story like i said.
But I'm living in an area with **** service but don't want to switch to verizon....bc its too expensive.
I'd rather be able to keep my infuse and unlock it.
Any other sources you guys can recommend? Google has brought me back here to canadian threads and not much else.

nvm i googled tmobile n infuse...seeing what i get

katiecakez said:
Yea I will for sure. but right now at&t has really screwed things up with me. They've treated me like crap and called me names. yes. seriously. and yes i was being nice. long story like i said.
But I'm living in an area with **** service but don't want to switch to verizon....bc its too expensive.
I'd rather be able to keep my infuse and unlock it.
Any other sources you guys can recommend? Google has brought me back here to canadian threads and not much else.
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I understand wanting to keep your current phone, but fail to follow that Verizon is too expensive. The calling plans are exactly the same price as AT&T, the 2GB plan on Verizon is $5 more, and you can get 5 GB on Verizon for $5 more than the 4 GB plan on AT&T.

PVD04 said:
I understand wanting to keep your current phone, but fail to follow that Verizon is too expensive. The calling plans are exactly the same price as AT&T, the 2GB plan on Verizon is $5 more, and you can get 5 GB on Verizon for $5 more than the 4 GB plan on AT&T.
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insurance is triple the price, mobile to mobile is Verizon to Verizon, att is any carrier mobile. possible surcharges ect...
depends on your needs and usage I guess.
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not sure but I thought metro pcs was cdma, but they are the only service with lte in my area, if they also cater to GSM or I was mistaken about cdma then I may need to get an unlocked lte something or other and drop att.
anyway strait talk is powered by a number of carriers. they use att similar cards, T-Mobile Sims, and also have cdma phones. the sim is locked to the phone. basically the imei is more important than the sim and if you use the sim and sell the phone your sim is deactivated if the phone you buy is reactivated. also many of the phones use other ways to lock the sim. the only phones that the sim is att and compatible with the infuse are $200 Nokia smart phones as far as I know.
supposedly consumer cellular is att. haven't heard of any trying it.

PVD04 said:
I understand wanting to keep your current phone, but fail to follow that Verizon is too expensive. The calling plans are exactly the same price as AT&T, the 2GB plan on Verizon is $5 more, and you can get 5 GB on Verizon for $5 more than the 4 GB plan on AT&T.
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I use less than 2g a month and barely any minutes, their cheapest plan put me with taxes and fees and unlimited texts at over 130$ ...not just a quote from a store that was my old bill in 09. att is about 110 and I switched it to a family plan with a friend so its only about 80 a month now.

Consumer Cellular is AT&T - it's what my parents are using with my old Infuse.
However, Consumer Cellular specializes in very basic no-frills service - they're great if you want a dirt-cheap extremely light-use plan, but at even moderate use they can become very expensive. For example, their highest data plan is $20 for 200MB.
An Infuse on T-Mobile will be 2G-only.

Entropy512 said:
Consumer Cellular is AT&T - it's what my parents are using with my old Infuse.
However, Consumer Cellular specializes in very basic no-frills service - they're great if you want a dirt-cheap extremely light-use plan, but at even moderate use they can become very expensive. For example, their highest data plan is $20 for 200MB.
An Infuse on T-Mobile will be 2G-only.
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well....honestly....how bad s 2g? bc i don't have the money to get any other phone and the AT&T is most definitely getting canceled. I live in 11931 zip code...what other options do I have?
Unless....well...there is a case opened with AT&T and I, and the only resolution i could come to was to cancel the service. I had the VP of AT&T on the phone earlier (yes its that bad) and he asked if there was any other resolution and I said I believe my only option since i have no service here (and other things that happened) I have to cancel. He said he'll call me back monday.
Is there another phone option that would get better service? I mean I love my infuse and all my pretty bling cases for it so I don't really want to get rid of it...
does the GS2 get better signal and do the cases fit the same? ::crossing fingers::

Dani897 said:
insurance is triple the price, mobile to mobile is Verizon to Verizon, att is any carrier mobile. possible surcharges ect...
depends on your needs and usage I guess.
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not sure but I thought metro pcs was cdma, but they are the only service with lte in my area, if they also cater to GSM or I was mistaken about cdma then I may need to get an unlocked lte something or other and drop att.
anyway strait talk is powered by a number of carriers. they use att similar cards, T-Mobile Sims, and also have cdma phones. the sim is locked to the phone. basically the imei is more important than the sim and if you use the sim and sell the phone your sim is deactivated if the phone you buy is reactivated. also many of the phones use other ways to lock the sim. the only phones that the sim is att and compatible with the infuse are $200 Nokia smart phones as far as I know.
supposedly consumer cellular is att. haven't heard of any trying it.
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Yes sir. Metro pcs is cdma.
So the infuse will not work with it.
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katiecakez said:
well....honestly....how bad s 2g? bc i don't have the money to get any other phone and the AT&T is most definitely getting canceled. I live in 11931 zip code...what other options do I have?
Unless....well...there is a case opened with AT&T and I, and the only resolution i could come to was to cancel the service. I had the VP of AT&T on the phone earlier (yes its that bad) and he asked if there was any other resolution and I said I believe my only option since i have no service here (and other things that happened) I have to cancel. He said he'll call me back monday.
Is there another phone option that would get better service? I mean I love my infuse and all my pretty bling cases for it so I don't really want to get rid of it...
does the GS2 get better signal and do the cases fit the same? ::crossing fingers::
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Switching phones may be the other option if you want to keep at&t. I don't get reception with my infuse in areas my family or friends do have signal in, and they have at&t. GS2 is smaller I believe, well I know the screen is. But don't know about their signals.
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jayson94538 said:
Switching phones may be the other option if you want to keep at&t. I don't get reception with my infuse in areas my family or friends do have signal in, and they have at&t. GS2 is smaller I believe, well I know the screen is. But don't know about their signals.
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hmm...well tmobile does work over wifi and has super green coverage for my area. my step brother has it and when he comes here he has full service on his galaxy. It would only cost me 40 a month for the pay as you go....and thats compared to about 80 a month now...
I don't have a job yet and that would be a better option....but not if my phone is going to suck balls.
Anyone think it will suck the big one being on 2g?

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hmm...well tmobile does work over wifi and has super green coverage for my area. my step brother has it and when he comes here he has full service on his galaxy. It would only cost me 40 a month for the pay as you go....and thats compared to about 80 a month now...
I don't have a job yet and that would be a better option....but not if my phone is going to suck balls.
Anyone think it will suck the big one being on 2g?
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Well back in the day 2g was cool. But I was stuck on it while everybody was getting 3G then 4g, and now that I'm on the infuse, I've been spoiled by the speeds. So yes, "it will suck the big one". You don't want to sell the infuse?
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Well back in the day 2g was cool. But I was stuck on it while everybody was getting 3G then 4g, and now that I'm on the infuse, I've been spoiled by the speeds. So yes, "it will suck the big one". You don't want to sell the infuse?
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Ehhhh not really. I have all these pretty bling cases (yes I'm a chick its like shoes and pocketbooks) that probably won't fit the galaxy s2...and on top of that I do really like my phone. I just ordered a larger battery for it too.
I also don't see it getting all that much online...maybe 225 for it unlocked if i figured that out...and that wouldn't be enough money for me to get an s2 without a contract for tmobile pay as you go...or wait can you use that phone for pay as you go? because its not in the same section as the other no contract devices. I'm confused about that.
The main thing is to have a phone that works for less money or the same.
oh crap...i have the best buy buy back....

[Q]: Unlocking Infuse to access other networks?

I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch to Verizon but not at the cost of buying a brand new phone when I have my beloved Infuse, and the deposit.
I actually have NOT rooted my Infuse because I liked the stock so much, saw no need to. I did have a rooted Galaxy S, as well as a rooted Nook, so I'm not a complete noob.
I'm just nervous about unlocking my phone to possibly hook it up with Verizon. Can you tell me how this works? After unlocking are you sure it'll be 100% to use with Verizon?
Anything else I need to know? How's your mother doing?

I don't think the infuse will work with Verizon. Verizon uses cdma and infuse is a gsm phone. How's tmobile over there? It'll work but with slow data speeds.
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Ugh, eff. This is going to suck. Tmobile is shiz, too. I was really hoping to avoid having to spend $200+ plus whatever security deposit requirements. I've been with AT&T over 5 years.
Grr.

Idk infuse maybe compatible with cdma, I've seen the option to use it in a special menu somewhere, its regularly set for cdma/gsm so it maybe able to use Verizon but I'm no developer so I'm not to sure
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Plus isn't T-Mobile at&t anyway. Don't they use the same towers? I thought I heard at&t bought t-mobile
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You could try switching to Credo, which uses sprint's towers and you wouldn't lose any money.
They will buy out your at&t contract if you switch to them, so you don't have to pay at&t early termination fees. If you sign their contract, you can also get the sprint sgs2 For $200 and just sell your infuse to cover that cost. So you would have to drop some money at first but get it all back.
I've been considering doing this because Credo spends their money on things like lobbying against sopa/pipa, whereas at&t is really into censoring the uses of our phones.
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Contract buyout info
http://www.credomobile.com/specialoffers/
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goobieracing said:
Plus isn't T-Mobile at&t anyway. Don't they use the same towers? I thought I heard at&t bought t-mobile
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The merger did not happen.
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zOMGrae said:
I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch
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If service sucks in your house, look into getting a used Microcell from Ebay or Craigslist. On principle I hate the fact I have to use my own broadband connection, buy my own device, and still have my minutes and data usage count against my monthly alottment but that's the way AT&T plays. If it's the entire area you are in then maybe a carrier change is in order.
The Samsung Infuse is a GSM phone. It does not have the capability to connect to CDMA networks (Verizon, Sprint, and any of the MVNOs using Sprint or Verizon's network).
If unlocked, you can use any SIM from another GSM carrier and make voice calls. You will also be able to use Edge (2G) data coverage from any GSM carrier.
In the US, the two largest GSM carriers are AT&T and T-Mobile. They use different 3G frequencies which means using a phone originally for AT&T on T-Mobile only allows you 2G data speeds and vice versa (in general... though some T-Mobile smartphones can use AT&T's 1900Mhz band)
Hope that helps. Unlike Europe and Asia, our phones are by and large locked to their respective carriers even if you unlock them because of the technology difference and frequency differences.

zOMGrae said:
I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch to Verizon but not at the cost of buying a brand new phone when I have my beloved Infuse, and the deposit.
I actually have NOT rooted my Infuse because I liked the stock so much, saw no need to. I did have a rooted Galaxy S, as well as a rooted Nook, so I'm not a complete noob.
I'm just nervous about unlocking my phone to possibly hook it up with Verizon. Can you tell me how this works? After unlocking are you sure it'll be 100% to use with Verizon?
Anything else I need to know? How's your mother doing?
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Won't work on VZ... sorry bro.
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[Q] Probably a little too early to ask but...

Will the Nexus 5 sold by Sprint or Best Buy be sim locked? I want to know because sometimes I travel to areas where sprint's coverage lacking to put it politely. I would like to be able to pop in a prepaid sim like a straight talk AT&T or T-Mobile sim to use in those areas while I am there and not have to deal with unlocking the phone through sprint.
I don't want to see people telling me I am wasting my time/money on getting the device through sprint. I get a good discount on my service through them from work and honestly since the network upgrades have started in my area the 3g and LTE I pick up occasionally have been surprisingly good so I am ok with a 2 year agreement on the phone.
Would Google even allow sprint to sell it with a carrier lock on the sim card since it is supposed to be a trueNexus this time around even on CDMA?

ktt4510 said:
Will the Nexus 5 sold by Sprint or Best Buy be sim locked? I want to know because sometimes I travel to areas where sprint's coverage lacking to put it politely. I would like to be able to pop in a prepaid sim like a straight talk AT&T or T-Mobile sim to use in those areas while I am there and not have to deal with unlocking the phone through sprint.
I don't want to see people telling me I am wasting my time/money on getting the device through sprint. I get a good discount on my service through them from work and honestly since the network upgrades have started in my area the 3g and LTE I pick up occasionally have been surprisingly good so I am ok with a 2 year agreement on the phone.
Would Google even allow sprint to sell it with a carrier lock on the sim card since it is supposed to be a trueNexus this time around even on CDMA?
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I don't believe so. We've been told all the N5's are the same so it would be logical to assume that they won't be SIM locked. But no way to know for sure until someone buys one from Sprint to test it out.

Ok so just a quick update to this. I got mine in the mail last night and decided to rty it out. I put a prepaid sim from a friend in the phone and it worked just fine. Connected to LTE data on AT&T and made calls no problem. So for any wondering if sprint decided to lock the phone I can confirm that is unlocked just as the phone would be if purchased from Google directly.