No support for Silverlight in IE9 WP7 Mango - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Why is not supported Silverlight in IE9 ?
When will it be available ?
Thanks for info.

I'm just curious, but why do you need silverlight?

Same reason a lot of people want Flash, you know... Streaming Video and stuff like that...

N8ter said:
Same reason a lot of people want Flash, you know... Streaming Video and stuff like that...
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exactly.
I favorite car web use Silverlight instead flash. I know that flash will never be on windows phone but why not Silverlight, its MS plugin.
Is it enough for explanation ?

maybe in apollo?
i don't remember msft ever saying mango will have Silverlight in the browser...did they?

N8ter said:
Same reason a lot of people want Flash, you know... Streaming Video and stuff like that...
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And do what with it? Interact with those fiddly little video controls using your touchscreen? Zoom in so the player fits the window? Play flash games using your non-existent keyboard?
No, Flash and Silverlight are on their way out as far as streaming videos are concerned. Apple knows this. Microsoft knows this. As for the other uses, such as web apps - the experience using a touch screen wouldn't even be worth it.

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[Req] Joost app

My dream is hulu on my Winmo device, But apparently this will not happen without their blessing.
But I do think that Joost would be more simple, They seem to be more open, and they already provide a app for the iphone http://www.joost.com/iphone/.
So what do you guys think? is it possible? If it is, Will someone please start working on it? and... Oh please, a QVGA version is a must, I've got a touch
Skyfire will run HULU
A dedicated app might be nice, but in the meantime Skyfire will stream HULU shows without much problem.
There is another possibilitie, you could use websites to stream video or audio.
Use something like http://www.todaypda.com/stream/ with CorePlayer.
Greetingz Themuzz
or www.orb.com with mycast
nir36 said:
or www.orb.com with mycast
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I think you are making a mistake, orb does not support HULU
Themuzz said:
There is another possibilitie, you could use websites to stream video or audio.
Use something like http://www.todaypda.com/stream/ with CorePlayer.
Greetingz Themuzz
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I dont see hulu or joost available there

[APP] Real player beta in now market

the real player handles video, music and photos...
I think it works very good for videos. the music player is too much like the default player and the photo browser pulls from a random folder rather than viewing all your picture folders.
anyways it is worth trying out
nooo, not real player on android!
Hope its not like the PC version at all.
http://www.real.com/realplayer/android
britoso said:
nooo, not real player on android!
Hope its not like the PC version at all.
http://www.real.com/realplayer/android
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lol i was thinking the same thing. All my real player did was freeze all the time on my PC
This response is to reinforce my distaste for RealPlayer, their business model, their apps, and their lack of openess since their earliest inception. I can only hope that Android people do not show any interest in RealPlayer and allow it to die through lack of support/interest by the community.
UI sucks, file management sucks, options(lack of) suck....this needs serious work. I have no idea why they would label this beta. It might be 'working', but I wouldn't want my name on it, that's for sure.
I dislike real too (have for at-least a decade), however since they have embraced android and took the time to create an app, I'm willing to give them a chance to redeem themselves.
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[Q] Play HTML5 videos?

Hey, any of you managed to play HTML5 videos on your wp7 phones?
I own a LG O7 updated to the latest fw. Other HTML5 elements work ok, but HTML5 videos don't. I use IE browser, but also tried other browsers, but nothing.
Any workaround for this?
Ruwin said:
Hey, any of you managed to play HTML5 videos on your wp7 phones?
I own a LG O7 updated to the latest fw. Other HTML5 elements work ok, but HTML5 videos don't. I use IE browser, but also tried other browsers, but nothing.
Any workaround for this?
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today,this is impossible in wp7!
ffnihama said:
today,this is impossible in wp7!
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Impossible?
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_.../10/13/html5-video-support-in-ie9-mobile.aspx
Ruwin said:
Hey, any of you managed to play HTML5 videos on your wp7 phones?
I own a LG O7 updated to the latest fw. Other HTML5 elements work ok, but HTML5 videos don't. I use IE browser, but also tried other browsers, but nothing.
Any workaround for this?
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HTML5 videos work just fine on my Samsung Omnia 7.
I just double checked on a few websites and HTML5 video works perfect on my old focus.
It's not that simple. Yes, WP7 can play mp4 containers with specific encoding. But... There is no video container specification for source of video tag in HTML5, unfortunately. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video
So, Apple, for example, may put .mov or HLS (.m3u8) as source on HTML5 page, and WP7 will unable to play (by default, without third party apps) these formats.
Html5 videos on youtube.com/html5 worked perfectly even on my nodo hd7
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I can watch YouTube,dailymotion,mun2.tv, vimeo,and tube8 just fine on my HD7
Please provide a link to the video you are trying to play.
My Samsung Focus plays HTML5 video just fine.
Hey, thanks for the replies.
Here is an example link: http://vplay.ro/watch/2qz961xf/?player=html5
Do you know any third party apps to play this unsupported html5 videos?
Ok, do you guys have your browser set to mobile or desktop?
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Any way to play Flash on WP7?

Simple and straightforward question. Is there a way to play Flash content on WP7? For example the use of a sort of 'Skyfire' browser or any other way.
Simple and straightforward answer: No
Flash video? Yes
Flash? No (not yet)
We are trying to think of a better more universal way to play flash video as now its quite tough to get right.
I thought there was no way to play Flash even in iOS and Skyfire. Doesn't skyfire only try to convert/render Flash Videos and does not do true Flash?
Dam I need flash on my other phone
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The app flash video for wp7 allows for some flash videos. I've watched movies and shows like The immortals, jersey shore and the walking dead, but no real browser support though.
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Marvin_S said:
Flash video? Yes
Flash? No (not yet)
We are trying to think of a better more universal way to play flash video as now its quite tough to get right.
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I was reffering to flash videos yes. Flash for anything else is useless anyway. The only other use for it is if flash games are made specifically for mobile phones, but in that case you're better of make a native game anyway.
kekkle said:
I was reffering to flash videos yes. Flash for anything else is useless anyway. The only other use for it is if flash games are made specifically for mobile phones, but in that case you're better of make a native game anyway.
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Flash games allow you to capture all audiences without having to extensively program for each indivual platform. And I am not sure what you mean by specifically for mobile phones.
kekkle said:
I was reffering to flash videos yes. Flash for anything else is useless anyway. The only other use for it is if flash games are made specifically for mobile phones, but in that case you're better of make a native game anyway.
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In this case yes thats possible. We have delivered a proof of concept with metro browser. It plays flash video fine, however the problem is finding the direct links to the flv files for which there is no standard way and all comes down to hacking and reverse engineering the security mechanisms of sites like megavideo/putlocker/novamov a.o.
So yes playing flash on Windows Phone is certainly possible and works extremely well. The problem is obtaining and detecting the flv's itself (which are often hidden).
We really would like to find a more generic and universal solution but at the moment there is none. We would need massive servers like skyfire to prerender every webpage and then capture any flv file. Which is not really possible to accomplish for hobby developers.
To play flash video - as mentioned above, yeah it doable, but its not an exact science yet. Running flash based websites, also runs ActionScript and possibly other scripts from the browser which I'm guessing is probably the real conundrum here. Just try running any kind of flash site from a browser on your PC with all plug-ins disabled, and your security settings popped to the maximum. It won't happen there either.

[app] ffmpeg0.6

compile from https://code.google.com/p/ffmpeg-msvc/
update:replace the sdl renderer wirh D3D renderer.Its faster now.
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update:FFMPEG2.1
MinGW:configure --enable-avresample --enable-postproc --enable-gpl --enable-shared --disable-static --toolchain=msvc --disable-yasm --disable-network --disable-doc --extra-cflags="-D_M_ARMM" --enable-cross-compile --target-os=win32 --arch=win32 --extra-ldflags="-MACHINE:ARM" --disable-dxva2
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This was my best news. At lease I can use this before VLC metro were release.
Nice work. The site claims it's missing the decoders, though; what formats does it support? Does it just use the Windows built-in ones?
It can open the most of video, at least. But most of them, usually the one that build in video app can't play, it very slow and the video so lag then video and audio doesn't sync.
GoodDayToDie said:
Nice work. The site claims it's missing the decoders, though; what formats does it support? Does it just use the Windows built-in ones?
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It uses native decoders.I have tried rmvb,wmv,x264,mpeg2,vob.FFplay uses sdl1.2 and its very slow on Windows RT so I am looking for a third part player based on ffmpeg which support D3D or DDRAW renderer.
Why FFmpeg didn't include in list at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348 ?
Short version? Because I haven't added it yet.
Long version? Because I wasn't sure that it would actually be usable, due to either lacking codecs or having them run very slowly, and I haven't had a chance to test it yet. You may notice that the list tends to get updated a bit sporadically; I try to get to it a couple times a week but sometimes life gets in the way.
Its easy to compile the new ffmpeg version with msvc and MinGW.Can any one help to compile it?I know nothing about MinGW so its too difficult for me.
http://ffmpeg.org/platform.html#Native-Windows-compilation-using-MinGW-or-MinGW_002dw64
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...loading-ffmpeg-dlls-in-win8-app?prof=required
If we could use MinGW for RT, we could port a *lot* more apps. I don't know how to adapt those instructions for targeting RT even if the whole thing does compile under MSVC, though it may be possible. Worth a look, at least. It's worth remembering that VLC is / has done a lot of work targeting MinGW-gcc for WinRT including ARM; hopefully it can be targeted for desktop RT pretty easily too.
im sorry for this noob question but sir, could you please wrote a detailed instruction how to install this? im running win8 enterprise.
GoodDayToDie said:
If we could use MinGW for RT, we could port a *lot* more apps. I don't know how to adapt those instructions for targeting RT even if the whole thing does compile under MSVC, though it may be possible. Worth a look, at least. It's worth remembering that VLC is / has done a lot of work targeting MinGW-gcc for WinRT including ARM; hopefully it can be targeted for desktop RT pretty easily too.
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I imagine Windows binary formats are generally the same no matter what the context. So it will probably work. Wish they'd release even a WIP version of the compiler just so we could play with it!
gradd said:
im sorry for this noob question but sir, could you please wrote a detailed instruction how to install this? im running win8 enterprise.
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You're in the wrong world... this is Windows RT, not 8.
dude, you rock!
windowsrtc said:
update:replace the sdl renderer wirh D3D renderer.Its faster now.
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OMG, this is soo awesome dude!!! Just got my new RT and was sad about the fact that there is no proper mkv-player (at least not free)
Your work is brilliant, and I hope you get some time to make it even cooler
the Video playback is FLAWLESS, and i dont mind to do the mouseclick inside the Video for Forward and rewind, but is there a possibility to get real full-screen? (i just maximized the window)
EDIT: nvm I got it: its " f "
Greatfully
Blade
Why are "PowerDVD" and "mobild.HD media Player" able to play "10GB+""1080p"-mkv-files flawlessly? Do they bring their own Codec?
720p files runs fine with ffmpeg0.6arm+D3D-mod, but the 1080p-mkv files are playing very very slow, even with Parameters "-fast" and/or "-framedrop"...
Thank you so much
BIade said:
Why are "PowerDVD" and "mobild.HD media Player" able to play "10GB+""1080p"-mkv-files flawlessly? Do they bring their own Codec?
720p files runs fine with ffmpeg0.6arm+D3D-mod, but the 1080p-mkv files are playing very very slow, even with Parameters "-fast" and/or "-framedrop"...
Thank you so much
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PowerDVD do indeed use their own codecs, the developer are part of the group which write up the specs for DVD video and various video formats etc. They can write a ton of codecs, they are not open source.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
PowerDVD do indeed use their own codecs, the developer are part of the group which write up the specs for DVD video and various video formats etc. They can write a ton of codecs, they are not open source.
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Oh thank you so much for your answer!! I was wondering this the whole time, but didn't dare to ask till today. I assume the mobile.HD media Player do the same...
Thankfully
Blade
update:FFMPEG2.1
MinGW:configure --enable-avresample --enable-postproc --enable-gpl --enable-shared --disable-static --toolchain=msvc --disable-yasm --disable-network --disable-doc --extra-cflags="-D_M_ARMM" --enable-cross-compile --target-os=win32 --arch=win32 --extra-ldflags="-MACHINE:ARM" --disable-dxva2
windowsrtc said:
update:FFMPEG2.1
MinGW:configure --enable-avresample --enable-postproc --enable-gpl --enable-shared --disable-static --toolchain=msvc --disable-yasm --disable-network --disable-doc --extra-cflags="-D_M_ARMM" --enable-cross-compile --target-os=win32 --arch=win32 --extra-ldflags="-MACHINE:ARM" --disable-dxva2
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You have MinGW compiling for windows RT?
SixSixSevenSeven said:
You have MinGW compiling for windows RT?
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It does mention --toolchain=msvc ..... :/
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Oh well, at least there was a hope.
MemoryController said:
It does mention --toolchain=msvc ..... :/
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