How do updates work? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This might seem like a very nooby question, but I am pretty new to the scene.
I bought an unlocked Omnia 7 that is branded '3'. The guy provided me the official unlock code that he got, and it was on NoDo when I got it last month. I'm on Mango RTM atm.
My question is simply this - I heard that the Mango update is carrier specific. After emailing 3 I have been informed they don't have the update yet - so that might take a while, but as my phone is unlocked will I get a standard update? Or do I have to wait for the '3' release?

you could have a look at this thread they speak also about past updates via Zune

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[Q] unlocked devices

ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
danyal hero said:
ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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Nah...not likely. The updates, if they ever do finally come, will be associated with the firmware for the specific carrier.
danyal hero said:
ive heard that unlocked devices that is without the at&t sim or tmobile sim donot recieve updates as a zune pass or smthn is required? i hav sources to buy a samsung focus and this has really got me confued
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Nothing is required to receive an update apart from having the Zune software on your pc and in the case of the useless carriers, their approval to MS to release the update. Unlocked devices should get updates with no restrictions or delays, barring technical issues.
efjay said:
Nothing is required to receive an update apart from having the Zune software on your pc and in the case of the useless carriers, their approval to MS to release the update. Unlocked devices should get updates with no restrictions or delays, barring technical issues.
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i got mine unlock, still no updates. =(
irispen said:
i got mine unlock, still no updates. =(
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That would be those technical issues then. Or just the result of a phased rollout, but you do not need to have a Zune pass or anything else, as the OP asked. And if you unlocked it yourself, are you referring to a SIM unlock but its still a branded device, if so the original carrier would still control when the update is released. Unbranding with a stock firmware would be the way to revert it complete "unlocked" state with no carrier ties but even then, its no guarantee of getting the update sooner.
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That would be those technical issues then. Or just the result of a phased rollout, but you do not need to have a Zune pass or anything else, as the OP asked. And if you unlocked it yourself, are you referring to a SIM unlock but its still a branded device, if so the original carrier would still control when the update is released. Unbranding with a stock firmware would be the way to revert it complete "unlocked" state with no carrier ties but even then, its no guarantee of getting the update sooner.
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i got the unbranded htc hd7, some of my friends got the update and some of my friends dont.. we are all using an unlock, unbranded htc hd7
irispen said:
i got the unbranded htc hd7, some of my friends got the update and some of my friends dont.. we are all using an unlock, unbranded htc hd7
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Then obviously its just down to being a phased rollout, based on whatever criteria MS is using.
There's only 7 days until Nodo gets released (theoretically), at this rate I'll not get this update before Nodo!
I hope Nodo doesn't get as delayed as this update did. Still nothing for me - UK O2 HD7 SIM-unlocked.
i got an email from HTC as i am using an unbranded HD7 and still to get the pre update, they told me to just wait for the march update...
they will not come out and say that MS have halt the 21st feb update or it was pushed out to only part of the WP7 owners....
so now i have to wait for march 8th or so and see what happens...
Just remember that March 8th was just a rumour, more than likely it wont be available then.

[Q] 7932 Update and Unlocked Phones?

Hi everyone,
This morning I received notice on my Rogers Samsung Focus that I'm ready to receive the 7392 update which fixes the certificate bug. My phone is currently unlocked with Nodo and I obviously want to keep it that way.
Has anyone with an unlocked phone already completed the 7392 update, and if so is your device still unlocked after. I'm concerned that Microsoft may have snuck in something that would disable the unlock many of us have applied to our phones.
I have 7392 on HTC 7 PRO,phone is still unlocked.
my AT&T focus dont seems to get the update...
KingpinEX said:
my AT&T focus dont seems to get the update...
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I didn't get it until I synced my phone with my PC through Zune.
And yes my phone is still unlocked.
Well I guess it'll be a while before alot of people see this update, after all =/ But it's good to hear that the update doesn't mess with our unlock mojo =D

[Q] Mango update question

Hi
I'm on tmobile uk with a samsung omnia 7, it was previous unlocked with the chevron tool and then updated to nodo and it stayed unlocked. The phone is now informing me there is a new update available which I'm guessing is the Mango update. If I update will my phone stay unlocked?
Ive searched the forums but cannot find an answer.
Thanks for any advice.
No it will not stay unlocked. Luckily there is a cheap ($9 one time fee) official unlock without needing the full $99 dev account.
Is the new unlock by chevron the same as the old one, just activated in a different way?
HiJAK said:
Is the new unlock by chevron the same as the old one, just activated in a different way?
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You get a token from them and run an exe while your phone is connected. Use that token and it developers unlock your phone.
They have developed this along with Microsoft So dont have to worry about it much. Also if anytime you want to switch to MS App Hub, you can request to deactivate your account with them so you can use your phone with MS App Hub.
I unlocked my Samsung Focus and here are all the snaopshot/ video and details if you want to read along
thanks for letting me know.

htc trophy unlocking/tethering

i for the life of me cannot figure out how to unlock my htc trophy and get the tethering to work...i have read through many threads on the forums and tried several different unlocking techniques and i believe that i have come to the conclusion that i cannot interop-unlock my device because its not a developer-unlocked device..i just dont know how to tell..anyway i have downloaded the windows phone developer tools in attempt to try to deploy usbmodeswitch.xap file to my phone and it says to make sure my device is developer unlocked..i have no clue how to tell if it is developer unlocked and i have failed at all attempts to unlock my device..all i would like to do is be able to tether my phone to my laptop..any help is greatly appreciated i think that i am just missing something... my device is an HTC Trophy on verizon network and i have upgraded to os: mango 7720...maybe its not possible to unlock my device?
Right now there is only one way to developer unlock the VZW Trophy and that is to sign-up and pay to be a developer ($99/yr unless you are a student). The other method was Chevron Labs tokens but they are sold out and no news if they will ever have anymore.
You can't go back to pre-nodo and use the old Chevron unlock as the VZW trophy never had 7004. Sorry...
P.S. There isn't even any custom ROMs for this phone AFAIK.
Don't want to hijack the question but I have an dev-unlocked Trophy with Mango v1 drivers. I want to update these to v2 as they will preserve the Interop unlock (which I have) AND enable me to get Internet Sharing. Can anyone help?
Has anyone successfully put android on this handset? Also, if i have Verizon unlock the SIM card for international use... can i use a GSM sim card from the US and have it work? I know it would not use the 3g but it hopefully would be like an unlocked iphone on tmobile edge i assume.
I have a verizon trophy, student dev unlock and also interop unlocked. I would love to have tethering!!
For htc mozart I use tethering and has a super
Agreed for tethering
I'm also a VZW Trophy user and have even updated to the 8107 version, but would still love ICS/IS Any way I can modify the registry to enable it or use a european rom to enable it? I'm sorry if what I'm asking isn't making sense, I've been reading about it for a while, but don't know that much
I have the same problem as you. I have used the Chevron Unlock, and succeded at the interop unlock and still cannot deploy the usbmodeswitch.xap.
DFT is working on the freedom for the Spark_W A.K.A Trophy CDMA. Untill then it's almost impossible to get internet sharing on our phone because Verizon failed to realease any updates since 7720. I'm also holding my breath for a fully unlocked ROM.
anyone help me unlock my trophy verizon..?
@Kevin_lee0417: You are providing absolutely no useful info for us to help you. You're spamming the forum. You show no signs of having read the threads that are posted or updated daily or more on the subject of what unlocks are available and how to get them. If you continue this behavior, you may get blocked from posting.
AppHub dev account is "expensive" ($99/year), though there's a free student variant as well. Those are the only official unlocks currently available. Custom ROMs typically have every lock that people can code thrown into them. Custom ROMs for the Verizon trophy are currently being tested, and will probably reach official release soon (possibly within a week, though nobody is making any promises). You could also find people looking for testers and volunteer, though if your "bug reports" on other threads here are typical of the degree of info you provide, you won't make a very good tester.
I picked up an HTC Radar at the Windows Store last night. With the Smoked by Windows Phone, I traded in my HD2 (so long old friend!). Along all the gobbledeegook the salesperson said, I think she said this thing was an unlocked phone. There's definitely not part of a new contract.
Well if that's true, how can I tell? I just confirmed it has internet sharing available. I'm tethered right now!
If it is an unlocked HTC Radar on T-Mobile, would anyone care? I already ordered my Razr Maxx and on Tuesday will no longer need this phone.
CURaven said:
I picked up an HTC Radar at the Windows Store last night. With the Smoked by Windows Phone, I traded in my HD2 (so long old friend!). Along all the gobbledeegook the salesperson said, I think she said this thing was an unlocked phone. There's definitely not part of a new contract.
Well if that's true, how can I tell? I just confirmed it has internet sharing available. I'm tethered right now!
If it is an unlocked HTC Radar on T-Mobile, would anyone care? I already ordered my Razr Maxx and on Tuesday will no longer need this phone.
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and what does this have to do with the HTC Trophy tethering ?
Everyone should just wait for DFT's rom as it will have tethering with it. THere is no way to enable it besides the rom.
Sorry if it seems unrelated, but I don't know this phone and the XDA ecosystem around it. It's not like the HD2 and I thought it significant that I have an HTC Radar that is able to tether.
There.
HTC Radar. Tethering.
I did nothing to the phone, so what I am asking is what/where can I look at a setting or whatever showing root/unlocked status.
Thats all.
Thanks in advance.

Ms ota update 11.12.12

Hi, I currently have a Orange UK htc 8X running the stock rom but I was able to install the first official OTA update from MS. Now I thought this first update would only be for the international unbranded phones. So my question is this. Does this mean that i am not on a locked Orange UK phone but that i actually have a unbranded international handset. Not that it makes that much difference at the moment, but for future custom roms it might. Many thanks in advance for any info.
I'm on Vodafone UK and got the update this morning. I think this update was pushed out by MS/HTC themselves so all handsets got it as there were general fixes and extras that are not reliant on any carrier specific restrictions.
On windows phone 8 MS is bypassing the carriers for updates. That said I have a Vodafone 8X and it came unbranded and sim unlocked.
Does anyone have any views on battery life since the update? When I tested the 8X I found it had a terrible idle drain issue leading to poor battery life and I am wondering if this is fixed?
lumpaywk said:
On windows phone 8 MS is bypassing the carriers for updates. That said I have a Vodafone 8X and it came unbranded and sim unlocked.
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I have a Verizon 8X and didn't get the update. The phone did came sim unlocked.
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On windows phone 8 MS is bypassing the carriers for updates.
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No, it is not. MS can't do that for many reasons. There is a so-called enthousiast program mentioned last summer that will allow users/enthousiasts to register their phones to receive early updates directly from MS. But that program hasn't kicked off yet and no one at MS is talking about it at this time. So branded WP8 phones still have to wait.
I have o2 UK branded 8X no update yet
No update yet with Bell, probably going to be updated at the same time as AT&T.
anyone know what the update actually does?
More stable than before (didn't really had the reboot problem personally) and persistent Wifi (looking forward to this!). That's pretty much what I know of.
jValdron said:
More stable than before (didn't really had the reboot problem personally) and persistent Wifi (looking forward to this!). That's pretty much what I know of.
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Really hoping they fix the bluetooth issues with the phone going into privacy mode, or not being able to pair at all..
Tmobile USA 8X.
No updates yet.

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