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So I just got my new Inspire today in the mail but I have been having a b!tch of a time trying to unlock it!
So far both Cell Unlock Store & HTC Unlock have not been able to find a code to unlock it?
I received a reply back from both and thus far Cell Unlock Store is the only one who refunded me immediately upon finding no code...still waiting on a refund from the HTC place...won't use them again
Has anyone else had success or failures unlocking this device short of rooting it?
Cheers
Udonitron said:
So I just got my new Inspire today in the mail but I have been having a b!tch of a time trying to unlock it!
So far both Cell Unlock Store & HTC Unlock have not been able to find a code to unlock it?
I received a reply back from both and thus far Cell Unlock Store is the only one who refunded me immediately upon finding no code...still waiting on a refund from the HTC place...won't use them again
Has anyone else had success or failures unlocking this device short of rooting it?
Cheers
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Honestly rooting it is the easiest way.
OK but will rooting shaft me on warranty issues?
Can I still run the stock Sense etc minus the bloatware via rooting?
Udonitron said:
OK but will rooting shaft me on warranty issues?
Can I still run the stock Sense etc minus the bloatware via rooting?
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Accidentally hit thanks sorry about that. It will "void your warranty" while it is rooted unlocked and s-off, but to get your warranty back all you have to do is flash the ruu which is in the dev section.
There are a few stock rooted roms that actually improve the speed of the stock rom while removing bloat.
There is a few people on here that have had a rooted inspire then took it in for warranty.
What is the best kit for rooting then?
Never rooted an Android device so how long does it take?
I would want all the HTC drivers, camera apps etc intact as I have no need for ADW etc since I dig the Sense UI
So....alpha rev has managed to attain permanent root on the htc incredible 2. a locked phone.
is it the same locking mechanism and will the root processes of this phone give us hints about to go about rooting sensation?
FINALLY.. A Q&A SECTION!! CHRIST.
Back on topic, i'm wondering the same thing. I HIGHLY doubt it though since no one has even found TEMP root for our device yet. We need to at least get temp root before anything.
havikx said:
So....alpha rev has managed to attain permanent root on the htc incredible 2. a locked phone.
is it the same locking mechanism and will the root processes of this phone give us hints about to go about rooting sensation?
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We shall see maybe the same team will start working on the Sensation
no one will or can root the sensation until htc sends out the update that will unlock the bootloaders, sorry guys. with the bootloader locked, there is no way to get s-off and no phone has the same rooting method.
The problem is that to gain permanent root - we first need to get temp root.
As of this moment - getting temp root is impossible since HTC patched it.
So our hope is to figure out a way to get temp root, in order to get full permanent root on the Sensation.
EmceeGeek said:
no one will or can root the sensation until htc sends out the update that will unlock the bootloaders, sorry guys. with the bootloader locked, there is no way to get s-off and no phone has the same rooting method.
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Not entirely true. The G2 had a locked bootloader and came S-on, so did the MT4G. Htc never released a S-off bootloader for either. I believe both were done with ENG boot leaks.
The difference is the sensation is a signed bootloader which is different than either the g2 and the mt4g
Yeah thats correct, the G2 and the MT4G have the same rooting methods, and we got the bootloader unlocked but finding an exploit which powers down the eMMC chip and allow us to turn S-OFF
http://www.htcdev.com/
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but HTC's site to unlock the bootloader is live. It doesn't really matter much anymore but in the event someone is interested in trying it out the link is above.
Make sure you follow the instructions and, more importantly, understand the ramifications of what you are doing before you do it.
From what I understand, the Thunderbolt isn't supported
Only the UK sensation.
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Supported Devices for the Bootloader
The following 2011 models (Launched prior to September, 2011) will be supported on this web site. Devices in green are currently unlockable, check back often for updates on the unlock status of additional devices:
HTC Sensation (EU)
FOTA 1.45.401.2
HTC EVO 3D (Sprint)
HTC Sensation 4G (T-Mobile USA)
Jcase says the leak he just received gives the thunderbolt the ability to be unlocked via htc's tool, so they will probably add it when GB is released.
And just to clear this up, I've been reading around and some people think this tool is going root your device. This is not true. All t will do is unlock your bootloader. You will still have to either run an exploit to gain root, or flash a rooted ruu via hboot once the bootloader is unlocked.
DO NOT DOUBT YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID AFTER USING THE TOOL. There is no doubt in my mind HTC will flag your device, and that they will share this information with Verizon. We already have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use this tool.
I've said my peace.
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orkillakilla said:
DO NOT DOUBT YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID AFTER USING THE TOOL. There is no doubt in my mind HTC will flag your device, and that they will share this information with Verizon. We already have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use this tool.
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No doubt that he is completely correct in saying this, Verizon will not be taking the hit to the wallet by letting this people who dont attempt to fix their phone and the first sign their phone may be bricked. Explore all options when it comes to your troubles before calling Verizon for a replacement phone.
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No doubt that he is completely correct in saying this, Verizon will not be taking the hit to the wallet by letting this people who dont attempt to fix their phone and the first sign their phone may be bricked. Explore all options when it comes to your troubles before calling Verizon for a replacement phone.
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Better yet, if you rooted and you mess up your phone, don't call Verizon at all. It's not their fault, they shouldn't have to fix it.
If it's a hardware problem, call them. If it's software and your not rooted, call them.
If you screwed up, suck it up and fix it yourself...
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And unless you paid for the kick ass insurance or got it through say Best Buy you may end up getting a replacement phone that is in the same boat anyways. Dam how do insurance company's and Verizon get away with sending these "like new replacments" out.
I have had my phone rooted just over a week, and I have been doing nothing but reading and just missing around with ADB and what works for a majority of other users. Keep reading, keep learning, and dont give up.
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Better yet, if you rooted and you mess up your phone, don't call Verizon at all. It's not their fault, they shouldn't have to fix it.
If it's a hardware problem, call them. If it's software and your not rooted, call them.
If you screwed up, suck it up and fix it yourself...
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orkillakilla said:
Jcase says the leak he just received gives the thunderbolt the ability to be unlocked via htc's tool, so they will probably add it when GB is released.
And just to clear this up, I've been reading around and some people think this tool is going root your device. This is not true. All t will do is unlock your bootloader. You will still have to either run an exploit to gain root, or flash a rooted ruu via hboot once the bootloader is unlocked.
DO NOT DOUBT YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID AFTER USING THE TOOL. There is no doubt in my mind HTC will flag your device, and that they will share this information with Verizon. We already have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use this tool.
I've said my peace.
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An unlocked bootloader allows you to flash unsigned images. Root becomes as easy as recovery in a PG05IMG.zip, then flashing the package in recovery. No exploit needed.
Also, along with the do not doubt it voids your warranty, HTC adding support does not mean Verizon will allow it. If Verizon says no, HTC will not add support to the web tool.
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Dam how do insurance company's and Verizon get away with sending these "like new replacments" out.
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You aren't giving them a new phone. You are giving a broken one. They in turn are giving you a refurbished used one to put you back AT LEAST in the same position as owning your used phone.
That, and they get away with it because you signed a contract allowing it.
adrynalyne said:
An unlocked bootloader allows you to flash unsigned images. Root becomes as easy as recovery in a PG05IMG.zip, then flashing the package in recovery. No exploit needed.
Also, along with the do not doubt it voids your warranty, HTC adding support does not mean Verizon will allow it. If Verizon says no, HTC will not add support to the web tool.
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You have a point about Verizon allowing it. I did mention the ability to flash a rooted RUU via hboot.
I guess we will just have to wait and see what Verizon does.
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Yes you mentioned it, but it is not correct.
A PG05IMG.zip is merely a file format for flashing via hboot. Each HTC devce has its own naming scheme. An RUU is a rom update utility and is in executable format. However, what most people do is extract the rom.zip in it, which has images that flash the phone from top to bottom.
With the bootloader unlocked, there is no need to go to such extremes. You can flash JUST a recovery and then use it to install super user and be done.
I think since Phones in the future will be shipping with unlocked bootloaders the site will not be needed for those devices for reasons I just wrote, but the site would be past phones that still shipped with the bootloaders locked and those are going to be the one that will be tracked for voided warranty. In the future it will be as easy and the Droid Charge (shipped with unlocked bootloader) Root method (easy and cake) I did one for a friend and was like "thats it" so painless. There will be no reason to show HTC or Verizon that you did anything to future phones it will be so easy to gain SU on the next phone from HTC on America's Favorite Network.
adrynalyne said:
Yes you mentioned it, but it is not correct.
A PG05IMG.zip is merely a file format for flashing via hboot. Each HTC devce has its own naming scheme. An RUU is a rom update utility and is in executable format. However, what most people do is extract the rom.zip in it, which has images that flash the phone from top to bottom.
With the bootloader unlocked, there is no need to go to such extremes. You can flash JUST a recovery and then use it to install super user and be done.
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adrynalyne said:
Yes you mentioned it, but it is not correct.
A PG05IMG.zip is merely a file format for flashing via hboot. Each HTC devce has its own naming scheme. An RUU is a rom update utility and is in executable format. However, what most people do is extract the rom.zip in it, which has images that flash the phone from top to bottom.
With the bootloader unlocked, there is no need to go to such extremes. You can flash JUST a recovery and then use it to install super user and be done.
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I see. Thank you for explaining. I'm no dev, but do enjoy learning new things. That makes sense
To grnlantern79, HTC will not be shipping any devices with unlocked bootloaders, which is the reason for the website tool. I don't think they will be supporting legacy devices with this tool. Only newer and future devices.
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I want to blame the news or lack of LOL this was the last post I read.
Peter Chou, CEO of HTC said, "Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
and now that you brought up your point this is what I found,
HTC will continue to ship all their phones with locked bootloaders, but will be offering a web-based tool for those who wish to have full control over their handsets.
Dam HTC make up your mind LOL.
orkillakilla said:
I see. Thank you for explaining. I'm no dev, but do enjoy learning new things. That makes sense
To grnlantern79, HTC will not be shipping any devices with unlocked bootloaders, which is the reason for the website tool. I don't think they will be supporting legacy devices with this tool. Only newer and future devices.
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Grnlantern79 said:
I want to blame the news or lack of LOL this was the last post I read.
Peter Chou, CEO of HTC said, "Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
and now that you brought up your point this is what I found,
HTC will continue to ship all their phones with locked bootloaders, but will be offering a web-based tool for those who wish to have full control over their handsets.
Dam HTC make up your mind LOL.
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I 100% expected it to be this way when I first heard they will unlock bootloaders. I think its at least a step in the right direction.
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orkillakilla said:
I 100% expected it to be this way when I first heard they will unlock bootloaders. I think its at least a step in the right direction.
Sent from my HTC GingerBolt powered by Gingeritis 1.2.1
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Yes step in the right direction it is but correct me if I am wrong, didnt the Droid Charge ship with an unlocked bootloader?
Grnlantern79 said:
Yes step in the right direction it is but correct me if I am wrong, didnt the Droid Charge ship with an unlocked bootloader?
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Samsung phones are always unlocked and easiest to root. HTC ones are generally all locked by the OEM (well until now), but the community finds a way to unlock them.
yareally said:
Samsung phones are always unlocked and easiest to root. HTC ones are generally all locked, but the community finds a way to unlock them (well until now).
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You wonder if the reason they unlock them is because they know they will never send any updates to the phones LOL.
Grnlantern79 said:
You wonder if the reason they unlock them is because they know they will never send any updates to the phones LOL.
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Possibly, lol. Though I just think they're trying to not go the path moto tried and failed with on phones such as the Droid X.
Those that think they really care about you unlocking it on their site can't really explain how their future phones will come unlocked by default without any tools. Still unknown for sure, but I believe they said they would not be locking any new releases from now on as well.
Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
Pumpiron579 said:
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
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This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
GameGod72 said:
This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
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I know, I didn't want to start a thread asking that. was just wondering since it is not listed. I wouldn't use that yet, seems like within a week, we will have s-off and more
GameGod72 said:
Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
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Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
danada said:
Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
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Bummer. Thanks for trying though.
Hopefully the superb devs on board will figure out a way to do this.
I think it's very possible using the same method, it just needs to be adjusted for the new partition layout of the newer HTC devices.
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
I still want to find a way around HTCDev, but, just letting you know what i have read
buddy17 said:
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
On a previous device I'd owned, after S-OFF they found a way to get rid of the device specific "TAMPERED" logo in the bootloader. I suspect there would be a way to do so on this device as well.
I can't remember which device it was, though...
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Its probably a combination of the device being registered for unlock on HTCDev and something on the device.
I'm pretty sure, sooner or later, the devs will figure out a way to return the device to a "clean" state. All the more reason I would love for a way to get this done without going thru official channels.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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When you flash custom software it trips a switch that displays "Tampered" on the HBOOT screen, whether or not you flash stock back on and relock the bootloader.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Actually read the posts though. The guy didn't send it to HTC.
HTC will still service the device, even after an unlock.
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
Pumpiron579 said:
cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
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If you read the whole chat conversation, the tech was instructed to call it "illegal" software. Doesn't mean it was in fact illegal.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
ughhh i cant believe htc is being gay
i guess im not going to buy one and wait for a gs3
Im sure someone will make a software hack or a hardware one like the SGSII.
JeepFreak said:
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
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Maybe nobody wants to be on topic? I guess I'll give this a try next week when I get my phone =\
Billy
Hi guys im new getting my one x from ma bell, in a few days. Im coming from an amaze, amaze forums.
You guys need to understand, htc WILL know if anything was "tampered" with.
Most software bares a timestamps, or something similar that will let them know when and what the phone was flashed with. So even if you reflash, its going to show a timestamp of sorts.
Htc put the disclaimer of warranty denial to give them an option im sure.
I returned several phones rooted, bricked to T-Mobile, and they never said anything. Its like a car, the manufacturer can void your warranty for any "mods" you do....
I hope every one here gets some patience, and not worry about rooting, bootloader unlock , bloatware.
For now it is what it is... and it's only been
... a day???
We will get this ***** unlocked, romed and kick some ass... just gonna take time... and from the looks of it we have some brilliant devs here! .
Be patient and give it some time guys, check out the amaze forums and see what happens when people start whining about stuff going to slow or not happening ( not calling any one a whiner, so chill)... the devs start disappearing.
Ok im done... probably not the right place for intros but ah well!!!
And remember
.its just a gdam phone!
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I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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xmguy said:
I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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Sorry bro, when you wish to unlock the boot loader, you send your device id to Motorola, so even if you relock the bootloader, they'll still have it in their records....
To get permanent root, the only current method is through unlocking the bootloader to be allowed to flash root.
Cheers
I used to worry about warranty too.
Now I just don't care anymore, and I've never regretted unlocking, on some 25+ test devices now.
If the device was returned to a store, I don't think they'll check Moto's database.
If I was worried about a bootup warning, and I didn't feel there were any moral issues (device is broken already anyway), I would just brick the phone. They can recover from that at the service centre anyway.
I DID return a phone to a store once which would not boot at all. They FREAKED out because they said they needed to boot it to see a number. Maybe they were just looking for tamper evidence, I don't know.
Anyway, that's 40 minutes of my life (plus the drive) I'll never get back, because they could not follow the normal return procedures.
And in the end they had to accept the return of course. You'd think they must have had SOME returns of completely dead phones before...