Touchstone and metal warning! - TouchPad Accessories

Got my Touchstone direct from HP today and first thing I tried it with the TP in it's case, good news is it charges fine, the bad news is the case has a metal stud on the back where it swivels and that got red hot in a matter of minutes! I mean hot enough to blister my skin and melt through the plastic protector I hadn't got around to taking off the Touchstone.
So.. warning!!! - Don't get any metal between the TP and Touchstone, they do not mix!

Anyone that knows how induction works is aware that the first rule of using such a device is that you never, for any reason, get any ferric metal between an induction coil and its target.

Which case are you using, just to warn anyone else?
I have the stock HP "snap on" case, and didn't experience this problem.
Will have to remember to keep my phones away from the dock, so it doesn't mess up their magnetometers...

The case is a generic leather look one off eBay, the one that acts as a stand and allows the inner tp section to swivel 360deg. I've since removed the pop stud from the inner section altogether since the touchstone acts as a stand and the outer can still be attached for transportation protection.
The point about ferrous metal is valid, it just didn't occur to me at the time and probably wouldn't to many others, hence the post.

It's a good thing you posted. I have no doubt it most likely saved several people from experiencing device destruction or possibly a small fire.

SpikeyPsyche said:
It's a good thing you posted. I have no doubt it most likely saved several people from experiencing device destruction or possibly a small fire.
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Although a better-worded title would make more of the right people actually READ the thread. Something like "Danger - don't fry your TP accidentally!"

You're right, it's done.

should put this thread as sticky!

SpikeyPsyche said:
Anyone that knows how induction works is aware that the first rule of using such a device is that you never, for any reason, get any ferric metal between an induction coil and its target.
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But most people don't know how induction works (or even a microwave). I'd hope that the cross-section of these people and those who have purchased a Touchpad+Touchstone doesn't have too much intersect though.

SpikeyPsyche said:
Anyone that knows how induction works is aware that the first rule of using such a device is that you never, for any reason, get any ferric metal between an induction coil and its target.
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+1 this is bound to end in tragedy

Has anyone tried a touchstone charger with a zippered case? (Something like this.)

No but it should be ok in the horizontal position as long as the zip is at the top. Of course if the zip is not ferrous metal then you have no problem apart from trying to balance the thing on the charger in that case.

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Is magnetic clip case bad?

I'd heard before with the MT3G that, because of the compass, a magnetic case is bad to use with the phone. Not sure what amount of truth there was to that statement, but I would assume if it were true that would be the case with the N1 as well.
Can anyone smarter than me let me know? I've found a really nice vertical case but it uses a magnetic clip. Curious if It will mess up my compass/phone.
i usually keep magnets away from any electronics...but thats just me
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i usually keep magnets away from any electronics...but thats just me
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Same here. Don't use magnetic belt clips on your phone. Even tho there is no know issue of the cases doing any damages to the phone its not recommended you use one.
I use a holster with a magnetic clip, have had no problems thus far.
I wouldnt trust anything magnetic.
You might be perfectly fine with it, but there's reason to believe you also might not be. If not for fear that it could create some irreversible hardware problem, it could very well mess with the software too; Droid's car dock uses a regular magnet to switch the phone to car mode. Google hasn't released the N1 car dock yet, but the phone has unknown docking sensors on the bottom that look like magnets to me. If the magnet on your clip is unintentionally switching your phone in and out of car mode all day, you probably wont be very happy. I know I wouldn't.
I know it doesnt have a clip or anything but I freaking love the case the N1 came with. Its perfect for me and its all I need.
I know that problem, my cousin has a droid and it keeps switching to car mode everytime he puts it in his magnetic holster. My nexus one has never done that once. I beleive the dock connector on the nexus one does not work magnetically but rather electrically.
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I know that problem, my cousin has a droid and it keeps switching to car mode everytime he puts it in his magnetic holster. My nexus one has never done that once. I beleive the dock connector on the nexus one does not work magnetically but rather electrically.
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That's actually good information to know, thanks. I was quite concerned when I heard about Droid's magnet issues and thought it would be the same for N1. Since Google hasn't released any accessories yet as they promised I naturally assumed N1 would function similarly in a dock. Good to know you've had no issues.

Carrying Strap? Just confirming: the Desire has no Strap Hole for a Lanyard, right?

It's really annoying. The Hero's got it, and it was invaluable to me. saved my phone many a time.
I've been reading many reviews online re this lacking on the Nexus One as well, and users as well as editors citing Apple as starting the dumb trend to eliminate a strap connecting point as I am sure it would ruin steve's aesthetics. So why did HTC have to go follow this dumb new trend?
Does anyone know if any of the silicon cases set to come out will have at least the option for a carrying strap?
You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.
thanks for the reply. I already have "ruinified" my back cover by placing those self adhesive gripper strips on it so the phone doesn't slip out of my hands. It's way more slippery than the Hero -- which is funny, because so many review spoke of how the phone's materials had more of a grip feel to them... not so. Yes, some resistance vs slipperyness of polished plastic or aluminum, but not enough to be safe.
So that was "be safe not sorry" measure #1.
Measure 2 is: I ordered already a silicon gel case for the Desire. It starts shipping in 5 days. I have no idea the quality. But to me it's insurance at this point, since who knows how long til the market is developed withj accessories. quite amazing how unprepared the accessory market was. Not like this phone was a secret.
I ordered from here, since i am usa:
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-Silicone-Skin-Jelly-Case-Black-P87961.htm
but found it here initially, a uk vendor for them:
http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?divid=HTC&model=HTC+Desire&cat=Cases&skuno=87961
I am sure i must have seen it on one of these threads.
I will for sure be fashioning a carry strap one way or another, and how dumb for HTC to "delete" this usability design element... especially when the European Hero (NOT the ones you would have seen in the USA) has the most elegant design including its carry strap hole and method of securing. Just beautiful. I wonder if the Legend has a carry strap or did they abandon it there too...
redrazr7791 said:
You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
I just did some searching on eBay and it seems that more sellers are starting to push out cases for the Desire. They look pretty good, especially since they cover the whole phone (buttons and trackpad), not just running around the border of the phone -
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Silicone-S...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef7eed5
http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Silicone-..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item4aa097dbda
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicone-Case-L...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef49799
Thing is...they are all located in Hong Kong
redrazr7791 said:
I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-coveri of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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That's an idea worth considering but of course 2 problems ... backs snap is itself not secure enough for holding weight of hand ... and the warranty void. I did buy 3rd party insurance from square trade which covers accidental damage incl dropping...
Still I would seek some more secure anchor method... If I had some spare time, I swear I would do this: I'd work my way through the corporate maze at HTC until I burrowed into someone in actual product design... and then I would pose the challenge to them from a purely hypothetical point of view about where and how this fish-line could be anchored.
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.
Spud, congratulations on a GREAT "Post #1" to XDA ---- one of the best examples of a "Post #1" I have seen here in years. I am really thankful you posted this, as I find this to be an essential accessory... One which to me reduces stress far more than any case or screen shield... Knowing I have the phone strapped to my wrist has always given me primary peace of mind for a device that is so precisely put together where one drop could dislodge any number of things, even if a case prevents a knick or scratch.
REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
You can email me at my user name here @ gmail dot com. Thank you for posting! And welcome to XDA-developers. How do you like your desire? Have you had a touchscreen phone before? If so, which one?
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
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Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.
Hmm. Don't really like that. Looks risky and deforms the case.
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Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.
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That's pretty impressive.... I didn't check the inside of mine initially when you described it, and so before the pictures I was imagining that carry strap feeding down through the bottom of the cover, and I was wondering how that would work. So I actually didn't realize til I took the back of my Desire off that it's coming off the left side when looking at the screen, which is good placement ergonomically.
As for the engineering tensions and torques, I have no idea... I was trying to just imagine it in my head, and i applied force to the plastic sim card in the downward direction if the device were to slip from my hand... I can't evaluate but one thing's for sure, as you said, with your scenario of no case, this is, to me, a much better solution that praying no accidental dropping.
HTC really should have handled this (pun intended). Nice job! And thanks for the pics. I didn't know new registrants could post pics until x number of posts, but I guess you've shown otherwise, and that's a good thing.
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Well do you mean anchoring it at the top and draping over the back and hanging down that way?
I'm going to simulate what MAYBE you mean, and photograph it.. then post again and ask...
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Is this what you had in mind? This is just a "fictional dramatization".. Do not try this without adult supervision. But now that I see it, I wouldn't mind at all seeing 2 black threads at the top...
I guess when I get a silicon gel casing I won't need this solution, but i think it's also pretty good. Now if only someone can determine how & if the black-thread fishing line can be fished through the opening.... Oh, and if this wasn't what you had in mind, what WAS your idea?
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That was it, though as I said, I would not be sure that it would not deform the two holes or interfere with the sound quality.
There is another better option - if you take the back off there are two torx screws in the top left and the top right (from the back) locations. I should imagine that if loosened, something could be looped around the top right one and then it could be tightened back up. Whether that loop would be the lanyard or a connecting piece of strong nylon I don't know. If you really want to go to town, you could probably try to cut a tiny tiny nick so it could come through the back cover where the notch is already cut to let you pry the back off. That's my best suggestion.
Attaching a strap
I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.
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I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.
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Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
Meanwhile, I have created a lanyard carry strap using a silicon case, punched a needle sized hole through and attached to a small smooth edged thin "plate" about the dimensions of an SD card.
I have been meaning to post my video on this. It is awesome.
But I and OTHERS would love to see your solution in pictures. Could you take some please? and if possible take close up macro shots right at the speaker grill with good lighting shining right in there, maybe a flashlight, so that we can see what IS or is not being obstructed..... the big worry was that fishing a line thru there would puncture the speaker itself.
So could you describe what you discovered?
thank you! great job!
Pics of fishing line method
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Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
thank you! great job!
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OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.
Nice, but I would really, really worry that the back cover will come off. Better if you can secure it to some of the screws inside the Desire.
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OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.
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Oh, I see now, I hadn't noticed -- you fed thru the BACK cover speaker grill.... When i first read i thought you had created the solution i made the video simulation about, which was afixing the lanyard fishing line around and behind the FRONT speaker grill -- which is why i mentioned there was fear about tearing into the speaker.
Well you saw the other person's solution, right, where he attached the lanyard to the micro SD card cage inside and send the line out the side. Some people liked that conceot, some didn't.
Okay, i have to post my pics. I have a 50-photo sequence of very detailed extreme close-ups of creating a lanyard strap for use with a silicon casing. It's practically foolproof. I say practically, because there are always ways to be so reckless beyond what any guardrails on a mountain roadway will ever do to protect you and your car from tumbling over the edge and over the mountain
I'd say the concerns in this case are correct... With the attchment point being just the back cover; I'm afraid that is not reliable enough to risk a $550 device's safety on.
I have not reviewing this thread, so not sure if it was on this one or another one where someone talked about using one of thecasing screws of the internal phone device.... though i think these void your warranty.
(time for me to say again: why oh why oh why HTC, why did you blindly follow Apple's iPhone BAD DESIGN PHILOSOPHY and do away with this small little item that protects a $500-$550 device? The design of the HERO *had* the carry strap hook, and it was brilliant and elegantly designed... sheesh !)
Can they tell if you loosen a screw a little?

Case that snaps shut, holding top and bottom half together?

Does anyone know of a case that is like all the snap-on cases on the market yet holds the two halves of the phone together? I envision a little clip with a button by the microphone or something that, when depressed, releases the top half of the phone to expose the keyboard.
Anything like this out there???
Thanks!
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Apparently there is a an email addres seidio has created to gage interest in a case such as this. see in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819182
fablife said:
Apparently there is a an email addres seidio has created to gage interest in a case such as this. see in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819182
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This thread is for a belt clip holster. I am looking for a case that covers the phone and holds the two halves together (via a locking closure), nothing like the innocase holster that this thread is talking about. I'm seriously thinking about doing some DIY action on a case. I'm baffled that a company has yet to make a case that addresses the "loose hinge" design of the phone...
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ad505 said:
This thread is for a belt clip holster. I am looking for a case that covers the phone and holds the two halves together (via a locking closure), nothing like the innocase holster that this thread is talking about. I'm seriously thinking about doing some DIY action on a case. I'm baffled that a company has yet to make a case that addresses the "loose hinge" design of the phone...
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Well they are just covering their butts by helping HTC deny that their is even a problem. If they develope product that claims to solve it then it may hurt future business relations if not bring forth some kind of lawsuit from HTC.
Sure when there's thousands of forum threads in many languages across the web aswell as a bankrupting amount of returns due to this issue.. it's still an "unofficial issue" until an important party makes it so.
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Well they are just covering their butts by helping HTC deny that their is even a problem. If they develope product that claims to solve it then it may hurt future business relations if not bring forth some kind of lawsuit from HTC.
Sure when there's thousands of forum threads in many languages across the web aswell as a bankrupting amount of returns due to this issue.. it's still an "unofficial issue" until an important party makes it so.
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Ya it's really frustrating. I accept that it's the "design" of the phone. I just want an option outside of a DIY method to help keep it closed. Shucks..
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Yeah mine is loose too, annoying even when the phone is closed. Scotch tape is your only answer!
But I love the keyboard...
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I think the best answer for a case would be a small magnet in the case to hold the two parts together until you want to separate them. I think you might be able to DIY with an existing case, a strong magnet, and some strong glue (i don't thing super glue will work because I don't think magnet is a non-porous substance). I would try it with some tape and see how it works before breaking out the glue. Tape/glue it to the case, not the phone, so that if it goes wrong you wont be stuck with it on your phone. I'm not sure about the long term effects of a magnet right next to the phone is though, and i definitely wouldn't use anything too strong, because the innards of you phone are made from metal, and it could rip something loose or play around with you flash memory. Let us know how it goes for you, or if someone finally makes a case which addresses this issue.
+1 to the magnet idea. i've given this idea some thought too but my level of lifehackery is too noob too attemp. i do see 2 pads on the keyboard side of the phone that could possibly be a good place to put magnets if the opposing side on the screen is hollow or if the magnet is thin enough. another thought...
double sided tape?
I jest...
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+1 to the magnet idea. i've given this idea some thought too but my level of lifehackery is too noob too attemp. i do see 2 pads on the keyboard side of the phone that could possibly be a good place to put magnets if the opposing side on the screen is hollow or if the magnet is thin enough. another thought...
double sided tape?
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Using magnetic tape on the sides of the keyboard has been talked about a lot and attempted by some people with success (do a search for it, there are pics of the mod).
There was also a case posted in this forum a while back that actually did have a clip that snapped the two halves together. Can't remember what it was called though.
Edit: Here is a link to that case: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916060.

[Q] Pouch with magnet... ok for phone?

Hi all,
A friend recently gave me a Lowepro Tasca 30 (http://products.lowepro.com/product/Tasca-30,2108,25.htm) basically a pouch that claims to hold small gadgets - cameras, HDDs, phones etc.
Was playing around with it and it fits the HTC Desire quite nicely... a tad large, but good enough to protect the phone etc.
However, the way the pouch "closes" is there are two magnets near the top to keep the pouch closed - they feel fairly strong (keeps the pouch closed well)
I was wondering is it ok for the HTC Desire to pass the magnet each time I take it in and out? I've realised i can attempt to keep the pouch open, but often the magnets 'snap' together right at the end when I pull the phone out.
Thanks!
the magnets shouldn't effect the desire.
anyway, if the case can hold HDDs, then the magnets shouldn't be harmful at all.
kuobob said:
the magnets shouldn't effect the desire.
anyway, if the case can hold HDDs, then the magnets shouldn't be harmful at all.
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yeah that was what i was thinking.
but was under the impression that gadgets + magnets are not a good combination. (in particular HDDs)
or does the magnet have to be super super strong to be bad for the device?
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yeah that was what i was thinking.
but was under the impression that gadgets + magnets are not a good combination. (in particular HDDs)
or does the magnet have to be super super strong to be bad for the device?
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I have an official HTC leather side holster for my Desire. It uses two magnets to hold the flap shut to secure the phone. I've been using it since January this year. No problems encountered.
I remember a discussion back in my Iphone Classic days, where they said, that the magnets does have an impact to the internal flash memory.
Don't know if this is right.
I used to have an Xperia X1.
I remember people over the forums complaining about holsters with magnets causing the X1 to think that the keyboard has been slid open even if it wasn't. I kept my X1 in a holster with a magnet too..but never experienced the said issue. Maybe it has something to do with the strength of the magnet(s) used.
My pouch also has magnets, have had it for as long as I had the phone (1 year) and never had problems.
Not had any issues using a pouch with a magnet that holds the pull-out strap in place. I believe it's just HDDs that are a bad combination with magnets, and the Desire doesn't have one.
The only ill effect I encountered from using a case with a magnetic clasp was that the compass always pointed towards the clasp itself.
Also it's a bit of a myth that magnets can damage hard drives - a principal component inside a hard drive is a large powerful magnet! It'd have to be insanely strong to cause problems.
I use the oem pouch which has a magnet too, so I think no harm can be done from it.
I had one for almost 3 years with a Sony K800i.
The pouch died earlier than the phone itself. So in my opinion it really canĀ“t do any harm.
Same here.
I've been using magnet pouch ever since I started using a mobile phone.
No problem ever occured with all of my phone I've ever used.
magnets should not affect mobile phones ...
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ayazora said:
Same here.
I've been using magnet pouch ever since I started using a mobile phone.
No problem ever occured with all of my phone I've ever used.
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yep, modern tech should not be affected by magnets
For what I know magnets can't harm the phone itself. However magnets can harm the display (only for LCD not OLED), but it has to be an insanely strong kind of magnet. Like the ones used in HDDs.
Don't think any kind of pouch can do damage to your device unless it features freaking electromagnets
Don't forget about vibrations. Those magnets damaged it in my Desire. At least i assume that was the cause. Vibration module has been replaced when i gave phone to replace broken glass.
Nevertheless I'll check this again. HTC says if i remember correctly that magnets won't affect device. It is still on warranty so that won't be a big problem.
All mistakes in post will be corrected when I'll sit in front of the computer.
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Magnet?
The phones normally start singing country and western music ...
What is your problem? Is that impossible to break electric engine using magnets? If for you it is then start learning physics again.
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HTC phones, pouches, and magnets
My HTC TouchPro 2 phone has an internal magnetic switch that determines its horizontal or vertical position to orient the screen display. When the screen display is locked and turned off, waving the phone near the magnetic clasp on my belt pouch can turn it on and unlock it. If I don't notice this, random pressure on the screen while it is in the pouch can cause all sorts of mischief -- repeatedly dialing a phone number; adding a contact to my address book multiple times; entering garbage text into an email message; depleting the battery quickly. These mysteries had me baffled for some time, until I figured out how to reproduce the problem consistently with the magnetic clasp (or any other magnet).
Does anyone make a decent nonmagnetic pouch? One made of hard plastic which the phone snapped into, broke fairly quickly. The generic velcro-closing pouches I have found are bulky and awkward. Do Verizon and HTC simply choose to ignore this problem? Do newer HTC phones not use the internal magnetic switches or insulate them from external magnetic fields (if that is possible)?

[Q] Magnet in Dock?

I looked around, maybe not hard enough, but I can't find anything on this. I was wondering if anyone else noticed a magnet on the bottom of their dock? If so, what is it used for. If it's not supposed to be like that, let me know. Thank you.
It turns the TF off when the lid is closed, like Apple's smart covers.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
Ok. I thought that might be the case, but wasn't sure and felt like I better ask. I sent the dock into ASUS, nightmare to say the least, and I don't remember the previous dock being that strong. Thank you.
There was actually supposed to be a smart cover released for it but I don't know if that ever happened. It attached to the same place the keyboard dock does.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
So in order to have the functionality you need to have it docked right?
There are TF data ports available around the net so that may be a good use for those...
dragon_76 said:
It turns the TF off when the lid is closed, like Apple's smart covers.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
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I highly doubt this, the lid closed sensor is a microswitch in the hinge.
RE OP: Which magnet is this, I have not seen a magnet anywhere in the TF101 dock.
No magnets here...I took a very strong refrigerator magnet and put it against the dock and moved it all around, it never became stuck.seems not only is there no magnet, there are hardly any magnetic materials in the dock at all..
Don't know what's up with yours, perhaps a photo would help us?
While a lot of things do use magnets, (never understood apples obsession with using them)
And the flaps on the usb ports on the dock for some reason are magnetic.
I think I read somewhere that the hinge has a switch. That switch triggers a peak or trim to signal the change.
So yes there are at least two magnets in the dock. But the lid uses a switch.
I can't 100%.
just my two cents. but the flaps are magnetic.
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bonesjones said:
While a lot of things do use magnets, (never understood apples obsession with using them)
And the flaps on the usb ports on the dock for some reason are magnetic.
I think I read somewhere that the hinge has a switch. That switch triggers a peak or trim to signal the change.
So yes there are at least two magnets in the dock. But the lid uses a switch.
I can't 100%.
just my two cents. but the flaps are magnetic.
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That is quite correct, there is a microswitch in the hinge, I excluded the magnetic flaps because well, their purpose is quite clear
My fridge magnets did not even respond to the USB flappers..lol
But that does explain why it's so dang hard to keep the ports from closing while I'm trying to insert the connector..
luna_c666 said:
No magnets here...I took a very strong refrigerator magnet and put it against the dock and moved it all around, it never became stuck.seems not only is there no magnet, there are hardly any magnetic materials in the dock at all..
Don't know what's up with yours, perhaps a photo would help us?
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then something is screwed up on yours, as I stated it is just like the iPad, the magnet turns the screen off when the clamshell closes. You can test this by running a magnet near the inner camera.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
dragon_76 said:
then something is screwed up on yours, as I stated it is just like the iPad, the magnet turns the screen off when the clamshell closes. You can test this by running a magnet near the inner camera.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
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there is something wrong with your device, plain and simple, there is *nothing* there to detect a magnetic field.
I have my transformer open every other week

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