Contacted HTC customer support regarding volume button dropped off - HTC Sensation

my sensation volume button is dropped off while I was trying to adjust volume, and can not put it back.
I contacted HTC (UK) customer support, they told me this problem is classified as out of warranty, because they assume volume button is sealed very well in back cover and only physical damage can cause it drop off.
customer support blame me for this problem and ask me to buy a new back cover for £40.99 plus £6.99 delivery.
Its just completed ruined my htc experience. I like this phone very much, and I can't adjust volume now.

found same story here, and more same problem happened in reply section.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-volume-rocker-fail

You can still adjust volume in settings or with other apps.
I believe volume button works as shortcut for volume adjustment.

Bt the fone mite look ugly without the rocker on the side
Sent by my feau gee

bakili said:
You can still adjust volume in settings or with other apps.
I believe volume button works as shortcut for volume adjustment.
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thanks.
it looks ugly and feels wrong without it. and strange thing is, this is hardware problem, and they told me this problem classified as out of warranty. how come?

piimp said:
Bt the fone mite look ugly without the rocker on the side
Sent by my feau gee
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yes, its ugly without it, also very easy for other people to see, you can hide it.
its amazing phone and cant show your friends because of volume button is missing.

everyday48 said:
my sensation volume button is dropped off while I was trying to adjust volume, and can not put it back.
I contacted HTC (UK) customer support, they told me this problem is classified as out of warranty, because they assume volume button is sealed very well in back cover and only physical damage can cause it drop off.
customer support blame me for this problem and ask me to buy a new back cover for £40.99 plus £6.99 delivery.
Its just completed ruined my htc experience. I like this phone very much, and I can't adjust volume now.
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Thats Strange. I had the exact same problem and called HTC UK, the gentleman advised me to return the phone to T-Mobile to exchange the handset or he could send me a replacement cover, but that would take a week to ten days. I asked for a replacement cover and that arrived 2 days later. Maybe you should call back and speak to someone else.

Demand it. Laws are here to protect you in the EU..
Demand you are unhappy and you want a replacement otherwise lawyers will get involved.
The law says if you are unhappy because a product failed to do it's duty or wasn't of good quality (ie. volume buttons detaching) then the company MUST replace it.

Legally in the UK it is down to the shop/retailer not manufacturer to rectify either through repair or replacement, or if they like by refund.
If something goes wrong in the first 6 months it is up to the shop to prove the issue was caused by misuse, not up to you to prove it just fell off.
So contact the retailer and ask them to repair it or replace it. If they say you need to contact HTC direct tell them that under the sale of goods act it is the responsibility of the retailer.

austendale9 said:
Demand it. Laws are here to protect you in the EU..
Demand you are unhappy and you want a replacement otherwise lawyers will get involved.
The law says if you are unhappy because a product failed to do it's duty or wasn't of good quality (ie. volume buttons detaching) then the company MUST replace it.
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Yes, I thought I am covered under warranty, seem I was wrong.
It's annoying that customer support he is confirmed with one of his colleague, both of them believe volume button is very well sitted in back cover, its only happened when physical damage to it.
They are using too much their own imagination, not look into problem. I did some research on this, many people have this problem.

xaccers said:
Legally in the UK it is down to the shop/retailer not manufacturer to rectify either through repair or replacement, or if they like by refund.
If something goes wrong in the first 6 months it is up to the shop to prove the issue was caused by misuse, not up to you to prove it just fell off.
So contact the retailer and ask them to repair it or replace it. If they say you need to contact HTC direct tell them that under the sale of goods act it is the responsibility of the retailer.
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Thank you. I will try contact Vodafone, see what Vodafone say about this.

everyday48 said:
my sensation volume button is dropped off while I was trying to adjust volume, and can not put it back.
I contacted HTC (UK) customer support, they told me this problem is classified as out of warranty, because they assume volume button is sealed very well in back cover and only physical damage can cause it drop off.
customer support blame me for this problem and ask me to buy a new back cover for £40.99 plus £6.99 delivery.
Its just completed ruined my htc experience. I like this phone very much, and I can't adjust volume now.
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Mine did the same and i had a brand new cover sent out. I used the Htc uk support live chat. The guy even sent an update when it had been sent out. This was about 6 weeks a go.

everyday48 said:
Yes, I thought I am covered under warranty, seem I was wrong.
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Sometimes I wish warranties were banned, they can be used by companies to make out that you have no rights.
All a warranty is in the UK, is an agreement from the retailer/manufacturer that they will repair/exchange the item without hassle if they deem it to fall under that agreement.
Outside that agreement you have statutory rights which in the UK are pretty solid.
For instance, most people will think that after a year if something goes wrong with their phone they should pay to repair it, but the law says that you should be able to get a reasonable amount of use out of an item, and I don't know about you, but I'd expect a £400+ to last more than 2 years.
You also have several organisations which are on your side.
If you want free legal advice there is the Citizen's Advice Bureau.
If you get no where with Vodafone, see if your local BBC radio station has a consumer protection show. BBC 3 Counties Radio (Herts, Beds, Bucks) has an excellent show in the mornings for instance.
Have a look here

xaccers said:
Sometimes I wish warranties were banned, they can be used by companies to make out that you have no rights.
All a warranty is in the UK, is an agreement from the retailer/manufacturer that they will repair/exchange the item without hassle if they deem it to fall under that agreement.
Outside that agreement you have statutory rights which in the UK are pretty solid.
For instance, most people will think that after a year if something goes wrong with their phone they should pay to repair it, but the law says that you should be able to get a reasonable amount of use out of an item, and I don't know about you, but I'd expect a £400+ to last more than 2 years.
You also have several organisations which are on your side.
If you want free legal advice there is the Citizen's Advice Bureau.
If you get no where with Vodafone, see if your local BBC radio station has a consumer protection show. BBC 3 Counties Radio (Herts, Beds, Bucks) has an excellent show in the mornings for instance.
Have a look here
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So many information, thank-you.
I will fight to the end until problem solved and use information you have provided if needed & update any progress here.

cjm1979 said:
Mine did the same and i had a brand new cover sent out. I used the Htc uk support live chat. The guy even sent an update when it had been sent out. This was about 6 weeks a go.
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The unibody design seems add too much cost to repair for HTC, even only for tiny volume switch.
HTC customer support also argue volume button is very secure and only can be removed by physical damage. But for me, mine is dropped off while I was adjusting volume.
BTW, a tiny volume rocker can destroy HTC brand.

This happened to me as well. It makes me question the build quality of this device. I wanted to keep it around for a long time, but now I'm a but sorry I didn't wait for the next Nexus device. I live in the US. When I called them they sent me a new back cover within 3 days. It makes me wonder if it will happen again....

Mrplennium said:
This happened to me as well. It makes me question the build quality of this device. I wanted to keep it around for a long time, but now I'm a but sorry I didn't wait for the next Nexus device. I live in the US. When I called them they sent me a new back cover within 3 days. It makes me wonder if it will happen again....
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I have same thought, what can I do if volume rocker fail again even they agree to give me a new cover.
I will sell this device ASAP when my contract finishs. It's a shame, i like this phone.

everyday48 said:
I have same thought, what can I do if volume rocker fail again even they agree to give me a new cover.
I will sell this device ASAP when my contract finishs. It's a shame, i like this phone.
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I pulled mine off and then glued it back on when I was done my mod. If the little rubber piece is still there then you should be able to just crazy glue it back.

everyday48 said:
I have same thought, what can I do if volume rocker fail again even they agree to give me a new cover.
I will sell this device ASAP when my contract finishs. It's a shame, i like this phone.
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You contact Vodafone again and demand they replace the back cover again, simple as that.

I had that happen, too. HTC US gave me no problem, replaced back cover free.
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[Q] HTC Sensation - volume button replacement help?

Hi all, just a quick question.
I bought a 2nd hand HTC Sensation from another forum i am part of, it worked fine for a few weeks, then i noticed the volume button on the side had disappeared!!
Searching has told me this is due to excessive 'playing' with the back cover putting it on and off again potentially, but sadly its not part of a replacement back cover, and is part of the phone.
The phone was originally bought from a Telecom NZ store, so should still be under warranty, but i have no reciept. i imagine they could confirm this in their system.
I would just take it into Telecom under a warranty claim, however the phone is in average condition, with a few scratches/scuffs from the previous owner, and i feel they might not cover it, due to 'physical damage' or whatnot.
I dont want to send it away to Telegistics/whoever Telecom use these days to have to pay an $80 inspection fee or whatnot if they tell me it wont be covered. I'm happy to pay for a replacement 'switch/toggle thing' if there are any other ways to go about this ? or do i bite the bullet and head to a Telecom store.
Appreciate your time reading this having no physical volume button is driving me nuts! i even thought about gluing little things to it, so i can use it. have been controlling volume via Sense and software controls.
ReaperZ said:
Searching has told me this is due to excessive 'playing' with the back cover putting it on and off again potentially, but sadly its not part of a replacement back cover, and is part of the phone.
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So you mean its a problem to carry a spare battery and routinely swap batteries due to this issue? Can you share the link for what you saw?
ReaperZ said:
Hi all, just a quick question.
I bought a 2nd hand HTC Sensation from another forum i am part of, it worked fine for a few weeks, then i noticed the volume button on the side had disappeared!!
Searching has told me this is due to excessive 'playing' with the back cover putting it on and off again potentially, but sadly its not part of a replacement back cover, and is part of the phone.
The phone was originally bought from a Telecom NZ store, so should still be under warranty, but i have no reciept. i imagine they could confirm this in their system.
I would just take it into Telecom under a warranty claim, however the phone is in average condition, with a few scratches/scuffs from the previous owner, and i feel they might not cover it, due to 'physical damage' or whatnot.
I dont want to send it away to Telegistics/whoever Telecom use these days to have to pay an $80 inspection fee or whatnot if they tell me it wont be covered. I'm happy to pay for a replacement 'switch/toggle thing' if there are any other ways to go about this ? or do i bite the bullet and head to a Telecom store.
Appreciate your time reading this having no physical volume button is driving me nuts! i even thought about gluing little things to it, so i can use it. have been controlling volume via Sense and software controls.
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http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/133/t/14025.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630007&highlight=volume
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419487

Poor HTC Customer Service

I dropped my Sensation and the glass cover of the screen smashed so I sent it back for repair which I fully expected to pay for. What I didnt expect was for them to also charge me for a new Mainboard. I called to query this and was told that the the bootloader had been changed, they had to replace the MB to lock it again in order to provide me with a warranty for the repair.
I explained to them that I thought this was nonsense and I was not fussed about a warranty and just requested that the screen was repaired.
As the phone was dropped, I wouldnt have thought for a minute that the phone would be fixed under warranty so what is their beef?
Was there not a press release from HTC saying that they were going to remove S-On from new devices? Does anyone have a link to this?
I'm now left with the option of paying £260 for the repair or have it returned for £23 which I'm thinking of doing then selling it on ebay.
Pretty gutted and disappointed at HTC
They weren't going to remove S-ON, they have offered the ability to unlock the bootloader. 2 VERY different things
It does seem a bit rubbish they've done that, though. They shouldn't care what else is up with the phone if all you want to do is pay for the repair of the screen
Ah, that makes sense.
Yup, I'm pretty upset to be honest that they've got me over a barrel regarding repair.
de-v8 said:
Ah, that makes sense.
Yup, I'm pretty upset to be honest that they've got me over a barrel regarding repair.
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I'm sorry to say that this isn't really anything new. My experience of HTC customer care in the UK is that they are absolutely awful from start to finish. At one point I swore I would never buy another one of their devices, but briefly owning an Acer and a Samsung revealed problems too.
If you search you'll find various complaints on XDA from people who have sent in phones with one problem only to find they have another on arrival despite careful packaging (the screen is suddenly broken, it is suddenly water damaged etc).
It might just be whoever HTC uses to do servicing and warranty work in the UK and not HTC themselves that are the problem. I don't know enough about this so I am only guessing, but I would suggest it might be worth trying to get hold of someone in HTC Europe/Worldwide and asking them to intervene on your behalf. Just emphasize that you only want to pay for the screen to be repaired and that if some gorilla has broken the main board whilst trying to replace it, that simply isn't your fault (I'm guessing that's what has really happened). Try emailing a tech site like Crave for some publicity? If HTC are insisting on charging everyone who sends in a phone with a broken screen which also has a custom ROM on it for a new main board.....well, that's just plain wrong isn't it?
My sentiment exactly.
I'm not expecting a warranty, although it would be alarming to get the unit back fixed to find another fault.
Surely the whole point is that I've requested a repair that I'm happy to pay for, they're demanding on a much bigger and unnecessary repair to fulfil it.
WRONG
I don't really understand why the firmware would need to be locked to guarentee a screen repair anyway? And why wouldn't they just flash new firmware to the existing phone - why would the main board need to be changed? People flash back to original firmware here all the time. It just doesn't smell right to me, but once again, I am FAR from an expert on the subject. You could just call their bluff and ask for the phone back and pay the return fee.
If you're in email correspondence with them and they haven't already done so in writing I'd ask them to put into writing why replacing the screen requires a new main board; why does new formware have to be flashed to the device to guarentee a hardware repair? Why can't the new firmware be flashed to the existing main board? I'd also exlpain as politely as possible that you are disatisfied with their explanation and ask them for a point of contact directly with someone at HTC to act as an ombudsman, or just tell them that you'll be contacting HTC directly to ask them to interevene.
Sounds like pure scam. It would be equivalent to dropping off your car for a windscreen repair and being told you need a new injection system because the exhaust has been modified. If you don't pay for the new injection system they can't fix the windscreen but you can have your car back unrepaired for $100 fee. Obviously the mechanic would be in court for fraud very quickly if someone took it to the police.
What we have here is some dodgy individuals preying on the general public, I can say this is not typical of HTC service in my country at least. I wonderful if they would even change the mainboard or simply flash an ruu and claim they had done so. Don't know what legal recourse is available in the UK but you should at the least report the matter to HTC global. These scumbags are after all damaging the reputation of the HTC brand and I'm sure that if they receive a number of complaints they will have to do something about the situation.
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Same story over and over...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=...id=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=bad+htc+customer+service
bonesy said:
Same story over and over...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=...id=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=bad+htc+customer+service
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After reading some of those I'm glad I live in a country where that kind of behaviour is illegal under consumer protection laws. Looks like I was wrong when I said that sort of behaviour isn't normal of HTC worldwide. It appears the only reason HTC behave here is that they would get murdered by the legal system, not to mention the negative publicity attached to that.
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dr.m0x said:
After reading some of those I'm glad I live in a country where that kind of behaviour is illegal under consumer protection laws. Looks like I was wrong when I said that sort of behaviour isn't normal of HTC worldwide. It appears the only reason HTC behave here is that they would get murdered by the legal system, not to mention the negative publicity attached to that.
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It's really weird because we have a pretty robust Sale of Goods act over here, but even that doesn't sem to count for that much these days. In theory goods have to be fit for purpose and, in theory, last a certain length of time - if not, a consumer should be able to return the item for a refund. These days however, even in retail stores, if something fails outside of 28 days many places insist on having it repaired. Online retailers often insist that one sends a phone back to the manufacturer for repair if it fails after a month which simply isn't right.
We're also fairly well known for putting up with higher prices in the Uk than other parts of Europe and the rest of the world. It's bizarre, but we just seem to take c**p from our retail sector here in the UK, whether it be cars, phones or tvs.
You'd think bad publicity would force the likes of HTC to really raise their game, but it just doesn't seem to (although, unfotunately, the fact that de-v8 has actually managed to get hold of HTC customer support more than once IS an improvement; way better than my experiences in 2008/9).
Tech journalists over here don't help us either. So many just hype the hell out of everything and get on board with the marketing claims manufacturers make about a new chip or a CMOS sensor and don't point out obvious discrepancies or flaws. Well, sometimes they do so belatedly by saying 'oh yeah the HTC Touch Pro always was dog slow because the VGA res. screen and TouchFlo always was too much for the SoC. Of course, a year earlier they had claimed it change one's life for the better ; )
Obviously this doesn't help de-v8 as his scenario is slightly different as it was a paid repair in the first place, but he's clearly being fleeced.
Should have replied sooner.
HTC offered me a full repair free of charge. It pays to stand your ground!
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Nexus 5 Dead

Hi this is my first post but have been avid follower of the site and had multitude of devices. Never felt a real passion as i have today to start a thread, today my nexus 5 died.
I have had my nexus 5 for just other 2 weeks now and for no apparent reason decided to die on me. Battery was fully charged had the phone in my pocket , took out to check it and nothing. My first thought was that maybe i didn't plug it properly and it hadn't charged, so stuck it on charge and nothing not led, no charge icon. left it for about an hour and completely nothing at all, tried everything power and volume buttons. Did a search on Google and couldn't find hardly any info on this sort of situation apart form one forum where a few people have had this issue and seems to be with 32gb version and they needed replacements.
Surely this sort of thing shouldn't be happening, clueless to what it could be, i did unlock, root, and install omni custom rom last night but all was working fine this morning untill it died of course.
Really i just wanted to make people aware of the problem and hear if anyone else has had this issue, or if anyone could shed some light as to what may have caused it.
Whats really ticked me off is Google customer service, i was given an rma and went through the the steps in the email to realize that they would hold the amount for this replacement on my debit card. So basically im buying a new phone and getting a refund when they receive my faulty handset. So now i have no phone and im £350 short for at least 14 days. This is ludicrous im being put out through no fault of my own, not everyone has £350 lying around spare. I understand that Google are covering there arses in-case they don't get the faulty handset back but please you send my a faulty handset and im the one who has jump through hoops and be put out.
Forum with same problem
productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/lI6A3fA8bvw/UdpnyaSL2Z4J
Did you try going into recovery and just wipe everything and try again? Or can you at least get to the boot loader?
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Was your pocket wet or was it humid out? My Nexus 4 was what u described
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Dragn4rce said:
Did you try going into recovery and just wipe everything and try again? Or can you at least get to the boot loader?
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No cant get into bootloder can not do anything.
dicecuber said:
Was your pocket wet or was it humid out? My Nexus 4 was what u described
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no pocket was perfectly dry.
The phone has been on charge overnight now and still nothing, i notice that if its on charge or you push any buttons, there is clicking notice in the handset, but you have to hold the handset to your ear to hear it what is that.
dicecuber said:
Whats really ticked me off is Google customer service, i was given an rma and went through the the steps in the email to realize that they would hold the amount for this replacement on my debit card. So basically im buying a new phone and getting a refund when they receive my faulty handset. So now i have no phone and im £350 short for at least 14 days. This is ludicrous im being put out through no fault of my own, not everyone has £350 lying around spare. I understand that Google are covering there arses in-case they don't get the faulty handset back but please you send my a faulty handset and im the one who has jump through hoops and be put out.
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Why does it tick you off? Why should Google be on the hook for $350? So many unscrupulous people out there, it's a normal business practice.
If you want to spare the $350, then send the phone into LG Warranty repair. They won't send you a loaner, but your phone will be repaired for no cost to you under their warranty.
Here is where you still complain its not fair because you won't have a phone then, and Google should still give you everything for free until you return your phone....
I think that it might be battery problem. And do use any cover on it? Because some covers can cover your power button and press it.
And also might be stuck power button.
PaisanNYC said:
Why does it tick you off? Why should Google be on the hook for $350? So many unscrupulous people out there, it's a normal business practice.
If you want to spare the $350, then send the phone into LG Warranty repair. They won't send you a loaner, but your phone will be repaired for no cost to you under their warranty.
Here is where you still complain its not fair because you won't have a phone then, and Google should still give you everything for free until you return your phone....[/QUOTE
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
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Repair or replacement of the goods
 
(1)If section 48A above applies, the buyer may require the seller—
(a)to repair the goods, or
(b)to replace the goods.
(2)If the buyer requires the seller to repair or replace the goods, the seller must—
(a)repair or, as the case may be, replace the goods within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience to the buyer;
(b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).
So trying to find £350 pound is a bit of an inconvenience for me, maybe not you as clearly that's nothing to you but for the normal working class id say that was a bit of inconvenience.
Why would i not complain im not a multi billion pound company who can afford to be £700 out of pocket with nothing to show for it. i haven't asked for anything for free all im asking for is to have what a paid for, a working phone.
Yea there are unscrupulous people out there but that's not all of us, i remember the day when company's looked after there customers because they were the ones that made them there profit.
Thanks for your 2 pence anyway.
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burton900 said:
PaisanNYC said:
Why does it tick you off? Why should Google be on the hook for $350? So many unscrupulous people out there, it's a normal business practice.
If you want to spare the $350, then send the phone into LG Warranty repair. They won't send you a loaner, but your phone will be repaired for no cost to you under their warranty.
Here is where you still complain its not fair because you won't have a phone then, and Google should still give you everything for free until you return your phone....[/QUOTE
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
1979F4048B
Repair or replacement of the goods
 
(1)If section 48A above applies, the buyer may require the seller—
(a)to repair the goods, or
(b)to replace the goods.
(2)If the buyer requires the seller to repair or replace the goods, the seller must—
(a)repair or, as the case may be, replace the goods within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience to the buyer;
(b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).
So trying to find £350 pound is a bit of an inconvenience for me, maybe not you as clearly that's nothing to you but for the normal working class id say that was a bit of inconvenience.
Why would i not complain im not a multi billion pound company who can afford to be £700 out of pocket with nothing to show for it. i haven't asked for anything for free all im asking for is to have what a paid for, a working phone.
Yea there are unscrupulous people out there but that's not all of us, i remember the day when company's looked after there customers because they were the ones that made them there profit.
Thanks for your 2 pence anyway.
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Not to mention (I believe) it's technically illegal under the Sale of Goods act as it applies to faulty goods too.
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Get a job
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
I see nothing wrong with googles policy.
Get a part time job maybe if you can't afford them freezing the $349 on your card for two weeks.
I felt for you when reading about your phone problem.
But after reading your whining posts about googles policy well thats life in the big city.
trsix said:
Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
I see nothing wrong with googles policy.
Get a part time job maybe if you can't afford them freezing the $349 on your card for two weeks.
I felt for you when reading about your phone problem.
But after reading your whining posts about googles policy well thats life in the big city.
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What Google could do is send a pre-paid bag out and NOT send a replacement phone and once they receive the faulty they then send a new one. OK, you're without a phone for a day or so but it would mean no one is out of pocket and Google don't lose out as they get the original back first. We do this at my company and it works just fine
I find it hard to believe you Americans think that Google's policy is fair? I work full time but would still find it an inconvenience that a device I bought in good faith died and I have to fund a replacement first before I can get the replacement. Not everyone has £350 available as disposable cash, I certainly don't as everything I earn is budgeted for and ear marked for bills, rent, etc. A shop wouldn't ask you to do this and neither should a mail order purchase.
I'm not bashing Google as a company, just their returns policy
I get what you are saying but I don't think you are understanding what is happening. If you want an RMA they hold the money on your card because they are sending you a brand new device. You are 100% able to send the phone in to LG for free to have it replaced under warranty because it is faulty. You have an option that does not cost you any money. You are taking the option that does.
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By the way they don't actually charge you any money for the replacement they simply authorize in case you don't send them back a phone. Also you can keep your phone on until you get the replacement and then you can send them back your faulty one.
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EddyOS said:
What Google could do is send a pre-paid bag out and NOT send a replacement phone and once they receive the faulty they then send a new one. OK, you're without a phone for a day or so but it would mean no one is out of pocket and Google don't lose out as they get the original back first. We do this at my company and it works just fine
I find it hard to believe you Americans think that Google's policy is fair? I work full time but would still find it an inconvenience that a device I bought in good faith died and I have to fund a replacement first before I can get the replacement. Not everyone has £350 available as disposable cash, I certainly don't as everything I earn is budgeted for and ear marked for bills, rent, etc. A shop wouldn't ask you to do this and neither should a mail order purchase.
I'm not bashing Google as a company, just their returns policy
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If funds were that tight I wouldn't be buying a $349. Phone to start with.
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If funds were that tight I wouldn't be buying a $349. Phone to start with.
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That's just a piss poor response to a valid point. I can afford the phone, and I will be buying on on Friday as it happens, I was saying I don't have an ADDITIONAL £350 lying about. If it went wrong I'd expect it to be repaired/replaced at no cost within the warranty. I can live without a phone for a day or so so Google should provide the RMA package WITHOUT sending a new phone and once they receive the faulty one they send a new one. HTC do this. Everyone would be happy. Google could easily do this but choose not to and this is why I think their RMA procedure is poor.
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Why does it tick me off! you my friend are either ignorant or stupid. It is my Statutory right here in the UK to be sold a product that is fit for purpose. From the sales of good act
I see nothing wrong with googles policy.
Get a part time job maybe if you can't afford them freezing the $349 on your card for two weeks.
I felt for you when reading about your phone problem.
But after reading your whining posts about googles policy well that's life in the big city.
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Sorry im not a middle aged man, living at home with my parents, with nothing better to spend my money on. Im to busy living in the real world working and providing a good life for my family.What was the reason you commented on this post again? An let me remind you its £349 that's $570 to you.
I Agree that it would be better process to be able to send your device back for an exchange, not only would you not be out of pocket but would be a faster process. I think you would find that is a more normal business practice, at least here in UK. You don't have to re buy a product if you want an exchange it at any other mail order company Maybe this guy works for google and has so much spare cash because he is keeping hold everyone's money for 14 days.
joshnichols189 said:
I get what you are saying but I don't think you are understanding what is happening. If you want an RMA they hold the money on your card because they are sending you a brand new device. You are 100% able to send the phone in to LG for free to have it replaced under warranty because it is faulty. You have an option that does not cost you any money. You are taking the option that does.
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i was unaware of this option and was never made aware of it otherwise i would have done so.
atticusmas said:
By the way they don't actually charge you any money for the replacement they simply authorize in case you don't send them back a phone. Also you can keep your phone on until you get the replacement and then you can send them back your faulty one.
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Im well aware of the technicality of how they hold the funds but it is as good as being charged as you have no access to that money. That was what i was trying to get at,
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If funds were that tight I wouldn't be buying a $349. Phone to start with.
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1. Is it not the point Google are trying to make by making available a high spec device at an affordable price.
2.Being able to spare £350 and being able to spare £700 is bit of a difference don't you think.
3,I think your missing point its not so much about being able to spare the cash as it is the fact you give a company your business and when things go wrong you expect to be treated as a valued customer. I never asked for a special treatment or the world for that matter, i just wanted an easy, inconvenient way of replacing faulty goods.
I experienced the same issue last night. Charged my phone up and it was fine. Put it in my pocket, took it out a couple hours later and it was off. Haven't been able to turn it on since. No water damage, and I've never dropped it. I'm going through the RMA process now.
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I get what you are saying but I don't think you are understanding what is happening. If you want an RMA they hold the money on your card because they are sending you a brand new device. You are 100% able to send the phone in to LG for free to have it replaced under warranty because it is faulty. You have an option that does not cost you any money. You are taking the option that does.
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That is completely bull****. I spent two hours on the phone with LG, Google, and LG+Google support managers trying to get a repair on an *in warranty* nexus 4, (they stated that this same policy applies to the Nexus 5) instead of a RMA through Google. LG will NOT do in-warranty service, if you send a Nexus that was bought through google play to LG they treat it as an out-of-warranty repair no matter what. (Yes, I am very aware that this policy is illegal, I tried explaining that to the person they transferred me to in LG legal, they said to try my luck with small-claims). To get your money back after they bill you the out of warranty price for your in warranty repair you have either have to go to small-claims court or try to get your bank to reverse the charge. Its a total bull**** policy that is, in fact, illegal, but until someone actually sues them over it, nothing is going to change. I ended up just biting the bullet on the normal RMA since I've got a Nexus 5 anyway.
LG will not accept in-warranty repairs for Google Play purchased Nexus devices, they require you to go through Google, no exceptions. I really wish it weren't true, but a conference call with LG and Google Play support managers resulted in my beating my head against a wall on exactly this issue.
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By the way they don't actually charge you any money for the replacement they simply authorize in case you don't send them back a phone. Also you can keep your phone on until you get the replacement and then you can send them back your faulty one.
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Been a while since I used a debit card, but I remember my bank actually did prevent me from spending funds that were pre-authorized. Yes, the money was still mine, but it's set aside and I wasn't able to touch it until the preauth expired. Can be very inconvenient when cash is tight.
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[Q] Replacing / fixing power button

Hi there, first post (actually joined the forum to post this)
So I am having trouble with my Nexus 5, essentially the power button has recessed into the phone causing it to constantly reboot over and over.
Now before anyone asks I did not buy this phone new from google play. It was purchased second hand at the beginning of last year. I have reached out to the guy and he can't find any receipt or documents from when he purchased. (Its way out of warranty anyway now).
So my question is this a problem I can fix myself easily? I could take to local phone repair shop, but don't want to be overcharged for something that could be a easy fix (plus a lot of repair shops are kinda shady). I am considering just selling on eBay as faulty then buying a new one but if I can fix thats obviously the better option (for me and my wallet).
The power button does not rattle like i've read people experience, its pushed too deeply for that. Any suggestions to wipe the device, or launch into recovery mode won't help here.
Any help would be super appreciated as this is a very annoying problem i'm dealing with here.
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Hi there, first post (actually joined the forum to post this)
So I am having trouble with my Nexus 5, essentially the power button has recessed into the phone causing it to constantly reboot over and over.
Now before anyone asks I did not buy this phone new from google play. It was purchased second hand at the beginning of last year. I have reached out to the guy and he can't find any receipt or documents from when he purchased. (Its way out of warranty anyway now).
So my question is this a problem I can fix myself easily? I could take to local phone repair shop, but don't want to be overcharged for something that could be a easy fix (plus a lot of repair shops are kinda shady). I am considering just selling on eBay as faulty then buying a new one but if I can fix thats obviously the better option (for me and my wallet).
The power button does not rattle like i've read people experience, its pushed too deeply for that. Any suggestions to wipe the device, or launch into recovery mode won't help here.
Any help would be super appreciated as this is a very annoying problem i'm dealing with here.
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I had this same problem last week. Well kind of, my button was NOT held down, but the phone though it was, any time i pressed it it would think I was holding it down and eventually reboot until I banged my phone on something.
I bought my N5 on release day from Google Play and google told me "Sorry it is out of its one year warranty, tough luck".
I took it to my local repair shop, they confirmed that the button is soldered to the motherboard and the same button that the recent galaxy phones use. They soldered off the buggy one, soldered on a new one for $40 and less than an hour. The buttons themselves are very tiny, and less than $5, but even with my decent soldering skills and digital soldering station, I wasn't comfortable doing the job myself.
modplan said:
I had this same problem last week. Well kind of, my button was NOT held down, but the phone though it was, any time i pressed it it would think I was holding it down and eventually reboot until I banged my phone on something.
I bought my N5 on release day from Google Play and google told me "Sorry it is out of its one year warranty, tough luck".
I took it to my local repair shop, they confirmed that the button is soldered to the motherboard and the same button that the recent galaxy phones use. They soldered off the buggy one, soldered on a new one for $40 and less than an hour. The buttons themselves are very tiny, and less than $5, but even with my decent soldering skills and digital soldering station, I wasn't comfortable doing the job myself.
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Thanks for your response, I will take it to my local phone place but I very much doubt the same level of professionalism as you experienced.
thenexus6 said:
Thanks for your response, I will take it to my local phone place but I very much doubt the same level of professionalism as you experienced.
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It's not that daunting a task, I'm sure even a crappy little repair shop will be able to do it.
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It's not that daunting a task, I'm sure even a crappy little repair shop will be able to do it.
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I went into a few shops today and they had no idea what the Nexus 5 even was. None of the shops could help me..
thenexus6 said:
I went into a few shops today and they had no idea what the Nexus 5 even was. None of the shops could help me..
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That's crazy. A phone repair shop that has never heard of the N5 has no business existing.
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That's crazy. A phone repair shop that has never heard of the N5 has no business existing.
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Yep, and it wasn't just one. One place send they are unsure and would have to send it off and there was no possibly of them fixing it.
thenexus6 said:
Yep, and it wasn't just one. One place send they are unsure and would have to send it off and there was no possibly of them fixing it.
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That's annoying. Well, you can try calling LG to see what they would charge to fix it. Or, maybe call some other shops that aren't local and see if theyll let you ship it to them. Aside from that or selling it, I don't know what other options you have. You could try fixing it yourself, it's already busted so it's not like you've got something to lose. I dunno, I wish I could help more but that's all I got. Good luck man.
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That's annoying. Well, you can try calling LG to see what they would charge to fix it. Or, maybe call some other shops that aren't local and see if theyll let you ship it to them. Aside from that or selling it, I don't know what other options you have. You could try fixing it yourself, it's already busted so it's not like you've got something to lose. I dunno, I wish I could help more but that's all I got. Good luck man.
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I sold it for spares on eBay - got good price so I am happy. Now to look for another Nexus 5 and return the Moto G to the store or just put up with the G until the new phones release this year
Wow you give up so easily

cracked screen, ugh!

Unfortunately after 3 days use, cracked screen. A fall on the cement with a case on it, but it was too much.
Sad day. Hopefully replacement parts might be available sóon
Same happened to me just now.
I dropped it (with the HTC case on), and the screen cracked.
The drop was about 1 meter :-/
I feel sick now...
hek.je said:
Same happened to me just now.
I dropped it (with the HTC case on), and the screen cracked.
The drop was about 1 meter :-/
I feel sick now...
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Same for me, was out walking the dog and the lead pushed the phone out of my pocket. Landed on the top left corner I think at first glance was fine barely even a mark on the case but when I got home and put the phone down that there was a weird reflection and turned the screen on and saw a crack going a cross from top left to just over the power button.
Have contacted HTC to arrange a repair which is chareable as they seemingly void the warranty when the screen is cracked...better get warranty back on it after they fix it.
I was just about ready to sell my u11 thankfully still got it so using it now altho complete stock sucks lol and had relocked bootloader so no warning screen on boot sigh....
Hmm I contacted HTC (Netherlands), and they told me that it's not under warranty.
I'm going to call again on monday and try again!
The crack on my phone runs from the power button down to the left bottom side.
hek.je said:
Hmm I contacted HTC (Netherlands), and they told me that it's not under warranty.
I'm going to call again on monday and try again!
The crack on my phone runs from the power button down to the left bottom side.
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Warranty don't cover user fault. I mean, if the phone shipped damged than you can get it cover.
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I have just got the quote for repair my screen, not the actual quote as they still can't give me a the proper ticket number etc.
The cost for me to ahve the screen replaced is £285 which is almost 50% of what I paid...not bad ehh. Think this will be my last HTC phone have had them for years but losing my phone and then a ridiculous repair cost is not good.
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I have just got the quote for repair my screen, not the actual quote as they still can't give me a the proper ticket number etc.
The cost for me to ahve the screen replaced is £285 which is almost 50% of what I paid...not bad ehh. Think this will be my last HTC phone have had them for years but losing my phone and then a ridiculous repair cost is not good.
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Well that price tag is the same with every other manufacturer. So it's something you would have had to deal with on a Sammy or OP as well... it's nothing ridiculous actually. That's why I took care to get mine insured as soon as it arrived.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well that price tag is the same with every other manufacturer. So it's something you would have had to deal with on a Sammy or OP as well... it's nothing ridiculous actually. That's why I took care to get mine insured as soon as it arrived.
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Yeah but the best thing is that the phone been in the repair centre since the 13th and still haven't got the actual quote so I can't even pay it and they never got me the UPS return label so I also had to pay for the shipping back to the factory.
Been in touch with the support for every day for well over a week and still not actually got a proper ticket number that I can track and just keep getting a new ticket number that doesn't work plus mixing up the serial number.
So think this will be the last HTC phone for me as my U11 that was faulty when I got it also took weeks to get replaced as they kept saying they where going to try and repair it.
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Yeah but the best thing is that the phone been in the repair centre since the 13th and still haven't got the actual quote so I can't even pay it and they never got me the UPS return label so I also had to pay for the shipping back to the factory.
Been in touch with the support for every day for well over a week and still not actually got a proper ticket number that I can track and just keep getting a new ticket number that doesn't work plus mixing up the serial number.
So think this will be the last HTC phone for me as my U11 that was faulty when I got it also took weeks to get replaced as they kept saying they where going to try and repair it.
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Well that's standard. Spar parts need to be delivered to the partners in the specific regions. Such things always take 4 - 6 weeks after the first devices shipped. Some manufacturers even need 8 to 10 weeks to provide the needed parts and prices.
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so any news on spare parts, i allready ordered a new back for my 5 days old u12+ but one day after i ordered it i need allso a new display, it fell from about 30 cm height on the ground and i was shocked thatthe display broke alltough it was in the original case
lousy performance by htc after the tank of a phone htc 10
Can't believe it happened to me. My U12+ fell out of my pocket -- maybe three feet -- and shattered!! I'd been using it in the wild for just four days. Had it in the case that came with the phone. (The case I planned to use is arriving tomorrow.)
I'm horrified. This phone can't be dropped three feet?? It's defective by design.
Now, the aftermatch. I contacted HTC US and they said they wouldn't touch it because I have the Hong Kong variant. I'm supposed to coordinate with HTC Hong Kong. The repair shop up the street said they could fix it for $150 if I was willing to wait two weeks for parts, so I'm trying that.
Insult to injury, I thought I had insurance, but it doesn't kick in because T-Mobile hadn't registered the phone.
Will keep everyone posted about the repair. It would be great if there was a cheaper third-party option.
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Can't believe it happened to me. My U12+ fell out of my pocket -- maybe three feet -- and shattered!! I'd been using it in the wild for just four days. Had it in the case that came with the phone. (The case I planned to use is arriving tomorrow.)
I'm horrified. This phone can't be dropped three feet?? It's defective by design.
Now, the aftermatch. I contacted HTC US and they said they wouldn't touch it because I have the Hong Kong variant. I'm supposed to coordinate with HTC Hong Kong. The repair shop up the street said they could fix it for $150 if I was willing to wait two weeks for parts, so I'm trying that.
Insult to injury, I thought I had insurance, but it doesn't kick in because T-Mobile hadn't registered the phone.
Will keep everyone posted about the repair. It would be great if there was a cheaper third-party option.
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Good luck on the repair. I would see if a repair shop locally could repair it. I just had a sub par experience with the USA HTC repair department recently. I bricked my phone and decided to send it back to HTC to see if they could revive the phone. After 5 weeks they sent it back to me and it still was not working correctly. I decided to see if I could resolve the issue which I was able to. Thank goodness. I would have hated to send the phone back to HTC for nothing again.
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Good luck on the repair. I would see if a repair shop locally could repair it. I just had a sub par experience with the USA HTC repair department recently. I bricked my phone and decided to send it back to HTC to see if they could revive the phone. After 5 weeks they sent it back to me and it still was not working correctly. I decided to see if I could resolve the issue which I was able to. Thank goodness. I would have hated to send the phone back to HTC for nothing again.
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Man! Make me nervous when reading this lol. The warranty on HTC device isn't up to it standard.
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I'm sorry if I made you feel uneasy but I figure just wanted to give you a head's up on HTC repair service. I found another thread on this particular topic and it was disappointing to read all the issues customers had with HTC repair (USA).
next time if you have a warranty issue, you can try asking the HTC DACH contact on facebook/twitter... they are actually replying properly and maybe even able to help properly. it's sad to see so many bad things with USA repair as in Europe it's quite good...but also depends on if you are in contact with them per private message or just via e-mail... via private message on facebook it works out much better
Two and half weeks later, the local repair shop tells me they ordered the wrong part (probably for the U12 Life) and worse they are unable to source a U12+ replacement screen anywhere in the world. I can't find a place to buy one either, with the sole exception of an Indian supplier asking more than $300.
Does anyone know where one can buy a replacement screen? Or how much HTC charges for repair? If it's more than $200 I'm giving up on this.
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Two and half weeks later, the local repair shop tells me they ordered the wrong part (probably for the U12 Life) and worse they are unable to source a U12+ replacement screen anywhere in the world. I can't find a place to buy one either, with the sole exception of an Indian supplier asking more than $300.
Does anyone know where one can buy a replacement screen? Or how much HTC charges for repair? If it's more than $200 I'm giving up on this.
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Just happened to me, over the phone they quoted me $2-300, but it could be more or less after sending it in. I asked what is the point of a warranty and they said it's only software issues, and it doesn't cover user damages like cracked screens. Anyways, you and I are sinking in the same boat, with HTC not selling any screens themselves, or providing other alternatives besides their own repair center. Scam company at this point
HTC cracked screen repair update:
1. I sent HTC my U12+ to repair due to a cracked screen.
2. They email me asking for a credit card to charge for the repair ($200). They asked me to call them. They did not provide a phone number.
3. I called and they ultimately said someone will call me back in 24-48 hours to take payment because they can't take payment.
4. When asked how long it will take to repair once they have payment, he said they usually take 3 week from the time they receive the phone.
It's been 7+ weeks since they received the phone.
How do I get in touch with the Indian dude, I'll spend the 300 to look at the screen without cracks. Guess I got lucky if you call it that, everything works and the cracks aren't that bad but it is disconcerting that a screen can't be had anywhere.
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How do I get in touch with the Indian dude, I'll spend the 300 to look at the screen without cracks. Guess I got lucky if you call it that, everything works and the cracks aren't that bad but it is disconcerting that a screen can't be had anywhere.
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A website called "cellspare" sells the screen, but it's $339. I made the resolve to wait two months and see if screens are cheaper.

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