[Q] why are there threads for phone that aren't out yet? - General Questions and Answers

Just wondering but why are there like 3 threads for phones that aren't even out yet in the US yet some phones don't have anything for weeks after release date?
ex. Motorola Bionic doesn't come out for another few months and it has a thread with multiple discussions in it, yet the Thrill (optimus 3D) has been out for almost a week, didn't have a thread started for 2 days after release date, and there isn't anything really in there but three discussions.?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Developers can get phones early, could be one reason as to why this is. Also, they may just be prepping the forum for when they are released just in case if they cant do it when the phone actually comes out, the thread wont be put on late. Its better to be early then late.

T/u that makes enough sense....it seems att is too proprietary because their devices almost always seem to have late threads
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It depends upon the magnitude of speculation a device receives. If you know what I'm talking about, Nexus Prime, SGSII.
On a side note, why don't you start with such a thread?

Well the reason that there was a thread for the Bionic was because it was originally supposed to come out around the same time as the Atrix was released so a section was put up for it around that time, but because it was scrapped and redesigned, the section just sat there.

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[Q] Which Android phone for largest XDA dev commmunity

This is not a question about "what is the best rom?" or "which is the best phone?" b/c those questions, as we know, are mostly personal to the user. My question: Which Android phone has the biggest/best XDA development community? I have owned about everything HTC and recently bought a Samsung Fascinate. The Fascinate community appears poised to develop when the smart guys figure out the kernel or froyo is released. But, compared to my Droid Incredible, I don't see the same level of interest from developers. Any thoughts? (Oh yeah, I am limited now to anything working on Verizon).
Probably the Nexus One since it is the official dev phone, however, most HTC phones have huge dev communities (especially the EVO). The Droid line of phones also has a large following, since they're the best you can get on Verizon.
Yes, Nexus One is probably correct and I think they used to make them for Verizon. I am surprised there is not somewhere on the XDA site to go to check number of posts, number of active posters, etc. in each dev site by device. Or, maybe, not many people have this curiosity?
sgreenwood99 said:
Yes, Nexus One is probably correct and I think they used to make them for Verizon. I am surprised there is not somewhere on the XDA site to go to check number of posts, number of active posters, etc. in each dev site by device. Or, maybe, not many people have this curiosity?
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The N1 was originally planned for Sprint and Verizon, but it was never made due to the launch of the Incredible and EVO. You CAN check the number of posts in each forum just by looking at the "stats" column.
The desire forum is also very active. The oldest thread on the first page tends to be about 1hr since last post (at the most).
Revisiting after 7 yrs from the day of post creation.. Let me re ask the question.. Which of the top 5 smartphones today have the largest development community at xda?
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Revisiting after 7 yrs from the day of post creation.. Let me re ask the question.. Which of the top 5 smartphones today have the largest development community at xda?
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Same question I have a Note 5 and it sucks, I'm about to upgrade and want to know what's the easiest to root, right now if I want to get free stuff in apps I have to get on bluestacks then back to my phone.
For reducing the amount of unnecessary duplicate threads this thread needed to get closed. Please post any "what phone should I buy" questions in the dedicated thread.

Looks like we can merge with the Desire Hd forum

With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..
Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..
I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..
yes please merge us!
I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?
I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
Masacrk said:
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.
yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?
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Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.
i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...

Whats happening to the roms for infuse?

There are no more devs interested on the infuse or y arent we getting anymore roms?
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Because of things like this....
This is not a development thread please post non-development threads in general
Thank you
I believe the reason we aren't getting more is because you aren't making them.
So, stop complaining and get to work.
pumasmedina7 said:
There are no more devs interested on the infuse or y arent we getting anymore roms?
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Come on man read and pay attention.
infused infuse helping other infused infuses?
NEO help the miss guided lol
infused infuse helping other infused infuses?
Help like infractiban?
They are waiting for the official Gingerbread release as stated in almost ALL of the dev topics especially the Rom ones...
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Because of things like this....
This is not a development thread please post non-development threads in general
Thank you
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Not even that. Don't post this kind of question, ever.
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Whoa don't gotta be so harsh to the guy. If I remember that's the same reason gtgs post got locked. So he made a mistake ,big deal.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.
To the OP - It was a legitimate question. To me, it's about development, so should be asked here, but the moderators say questions should be asked in the Q and A section.
When asked a 3 months ago, it was said the lack of ROMs was waiting for Rogers to get GB. That came and went without updates. Now the same is being said for AT&T GB, and we all know the timeline ATT runs on... the government minus 50%.
Either way, there aren't many ROMs for the infuse, so it's kinda just a wait n see thing. I'm sure the couple that have been around will stay around, but ATT's next killer phone is coming out this month or next, so Infuse is going to end up in the graveyard of cell phones past from a development perspective, IMO.
I don't think galaxy will bury the infuse. I think more people down the line will get the infuse cuzz prices will.be cheaper.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.
iruleyounow said:
I don't think galaxy will bury the infuse. I think more people down the line will get the infuse cuzz prices will.be cheaper.
Infuse running infused v2.0.2.
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I disagree. It's like saying when the iPad 2 came out it made the iPad 1 more popular. Sure, there are some incremental sales because it's discounted, but 95% of the iPads sold within 6 months of launch have been iPad 2.
Just the nature of the beast, that's why when ATT releases proprietary releases it kills the users development ROM options :-(
The reason is because some of the more influential developers have begun looking down on "hey look I can deodex too" ROMs. I personally believe that's the problem. There should be more "hey look I can deodex too" ROMs. Without those, there is no development.
Hey, "hey look I can deodex too" propigators... read this. Pay attention here.
There needs to be more encouragement for those who want to make their own ROMs. It's a pride thing. If someone believes they did a good job, then they will continue to work and do a better job.
I whole heartedly believe that additional ROMs are required. When I get some time I will be making one. I'd like to wait until we get an official or leaked 2.3 source because I'm not a cutting edge type of guy. I'd rather work with a solid base and improve upon it.
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To the OP - It was a legitimate question. To me, it's about development, so should be asked here, but the moderators say questions should be asked in the Q and A section.
When asked a 3 months ago, it was said the lack of ROMs was waiting for Rogers to get GB. That came and went without updates. Now the same is being said for AT&T GB, and we all know the timeline ATT runs on... the government minus 50%.
Either way, there aren't many ROMs for the infuse, so it's kinda just a wait n see thing. I'm sure the couple that have been around will stay around, but ATT's next killer phone is coming out this month or next, so Infuse is going to end up in the graveyard of cell phones past from a development perspective, IMO.
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3 Months ago this phone was but a twinkle it Rogers eye. Stop acting like a fool. As soon as the dev's (gtg) got his hands on the Rogers dump, Infused 2.0 popped up. Others are still working on their GB roms, or they are waiting for AT&T to release it. The CWM build is updated almost daily.
Seriously you have 1300 posts and if this one is any indication, none of them are worth anything.
Guys, calm down on the flaming. That being said, I don't understand the question (which btw, should be in the Q&A section). This phone is still relatively young, and we have bionix, infused, refuse, and now we even have ports for cm7 and miui. The development is about to kick off even more, and I can feel it already. Also, I don't think people who are new to development are afraid to post ROMs. I would love to post ROMs, but I need guidance on how to make them. For me, it's lack of the proper tools and guidance, not shame stopping me from development.
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youre always welcome to make your own roms.
Im with btp i would love to make roms i love doing this stuff i make themes on a daily/weekly bases but i dont.lnow where to start
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most important thing is we need stable roms.
used to have htc inspire and there were plenty of rom and more or less stable.
i feel infuse is not popular right now and Samsung/ATT are also to be blamed for delaying Gingerbread.
but i am counting on the devs who are working on infuse one way or the another.
This is exactly what I DON'T want to see in the development forums. This is a discussion for General, but it started out as a question, so Q&A.
BUT! It's in development. The discussion IS constructive (as long as you people keep playing nice ), so create a thread like this for discussing this in General and you can continue.
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[Q] SGS2 or Galaxy Nexus?

I'm upgrading my phone soon, and i'm pretty much down to the T-Mobile Galaxy S II or waiting for the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm kind of tired of waiting for Google to release it in the US. And even when it does, it's rumored to be exclusive on Verizon at first so if that's true that could suck.
I really like the Galaxy S II. but have a couple of questions about it.
1. With the Galaxy S II being released so late in the US, is it possible that a Galaxy S III could be coming within the next couple of months and would it be worth it to get the Galaxy S II right now?
2. As for development, are more ROMs expected to come out for this? This probably can't be determined because I guess that mainly has to do with developers wanting to come to this phone. I'm just used to having a lot of ROM choices on my MyTouch 4G and HD2. But even the myTouch 4G took a couple of months before a lot of ROMs starting coming out for it. I probably just answered my own question, but oh well.
Thanks
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this got moved to the XDA General forum...? thought I put it in the correct place, but not gonna mess with mods lol.
Within a month or two you will see a big influx of ROM's. T-Mobile phones are always heavily developed. And with Cyanogen 9 dropping within 2 months that is when the development will pick up. Alot of devs like to build using their code.
you're right. I've noticed T-Mobile phones tend to be the best when it comes to the developer communities. I mainly want the Galaxy Nexus for Ice Cream Sandwich. But Samsung said it will get an official update and it will probably be ported eventually anyway.
Thanks
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Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
There is a similar thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19653755
Maybe you will find your answers and more participating

New phone threads, what's wrong mods?

It seems to me that any thread pertaining to another phone has been removed by the mods lately. What's up with this? I understand that the thread may not be about the infuse, so I understand your logic for moving them. However, what about those of us that may want to discuss new phone options with fellow Infuse owners that we have been in a community with for some time now?
To me, it seems as if you're controlling what a new group of friends can talk about, and basically being an overly harsh dictator. I respect the opinion of my fellow Infusers, so why can't I talk about new phones with them in a place where I know it will be mostly Infuse owners? It's the GENERAL section for a reason. You're supposed to post any random discussion you want there, so long as it is not offensive and is appropriate for all.
Specifically, I'm referring to the threads about the galaxy note. I was enjoying reading the opinions of all of you, as I will probably be upgrading to it this summer.
And don't say that I can go read in the AT&T note section, because that is not what I am talking about. In the AT&T note section, you get the opinions of all sorts of people coming from different devices, whereas a thread here will only gather the opinions of Infuse owners. I want to be able to talk about new phones without the thread being deleted or moved after a few days.
/endrant
Sorry for the lengthy response, I just think the mods should be a bit more lenient.
There should be one thread for all of it. People can post about it without clogging up the forum.
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big infuse comparison thread.....
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I have been holding my tongue...
BUT I'm kinda getting there:
HERE IS WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO POST IT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255388
All non-Infuse phone goes there...
skyrot, all-trix, galax Not, etc...you get the idea
Sorry, forgot about that thread as its a sticky and I do most of my reading on my phone, where stickies are under a different tab. My bad. Although I still think it wouldn't be that terrible to have a thread here and there regarding specific new phones. Whoops.
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welchertc said:
Sorry, forgot about that thread as its a sticky and I do most of my reading on my phone, where stickies are under a different tab. My bad. Although I still think it wouldn't be that terrible to have a thread here and there regarding specific new phones. Whoops.
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np..i don't have any issue usually, but as new threads get created with only a few posts, the older but good thread with lots of material gets pushed back.
We end up with such a large clutter that is harder to follow.
bronco is actually pretty tolerant...I've on seen one thread got locked in the past several months.
Try Dolphin HD with desktop toggle add-on for full web page browsing from phone.
If you want to discuss about a new phone, if that alreday has a dedicated forum, then you can talk about it there.
If not you can post in General-General.
Certainly you cant post in the Infuse forum.
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P.S. You can also use the Infuse Comparison thread which is stickied on this forum

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