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Hello all,
With how big the buzz is on the new Moto Droid, and how awesome the reviews have been on it so far, I'm hoping the modding community would attack it like a wolf on a sheep.
The question of the day though, is where will the modders conglomerate? It's not a HTC phone, so of course it wouldn't be on XDA (though I wish it was, because the android community here is first class awesome).
Why not create a sister site of XDA called droid-developers.com (or any name really, i wrote this because android-developers.com is taken). We could move all of the android forums and posts over to the sister site (which would definitely save bandwidth here on XDA), and that way the devs can have a one stop area for all android development, not just HTC phones. They could then just create new forums for other phones, like the liquid a1, motorola droid, samsung galaxy, etc..
If we have different sites for different manufacturers, the dev and mod community will be broken apart on different sites, whereas they could all be centrally located on one site.
Having all the android devs in one location not only helps form a community, but it also makes it a one stop location for everything android modding and developing. Others have tried doing so, but each attempt failed because there was no backing. If XDA made the site, it would have the backing of XDA, and with them moving all the current android forums over to the new site, it would be instant 100% backing, as that is where the devs would go for their current projects that are already posted, and any new projects.
As it stands now, there is a different forum for dream/magic, yet a lot of the posts get double posted in each because they are applicable to each. when someone is working on an application, do they choose to put it in the Dream section, Magic section, or Hero section? With it's own complete forum, there could be a general app section, etc..
Lets use an example. The Samsung Galaxy. It was the second android phone released. It's a great phone, but because it's not made by HTC, and therefore has no place on XDA, there is no modding community for it at all. A great device (and really the only one with a good amount of internal storage) has no hopes for the modding future because there is no central location for devs to conglomerate. If it was made by HTC, it would have flourished in the modding community simply because it could be discussed and worked on here at XDA.
The main thing, is they're modding Android, not the specific device. Sure each device has it's own quirks, but Android as a whole is what the topic is about. Why limit it to just HTC phones?
So please, if you agree that this will help the android community, vote in the poll, and voice your opinion by posting in this thread.

Well, as I find the proposal fair enough I've voted yes, but I'm not at all convinced about that domain.
If you intend to move devs from this site (which is well known in the android scene) to a new one, and you use as a reason that this was htc specific, you can't possibly try to name the new site droid-developers in direct reference to a motorola phone.

it wasn't used for a motorola reference. android-developers.com is already taken, as is android-devs.com.
If you have any other suggestions for domain names please post them.
Edit: fixed the first post to reflect what i stated here about the name

Are the mods here not going to create a section for this phone?

There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.

PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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Have the mods said this somewhere?

livejamie said:
Have the mods said this somewhere?
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Lol, it's the origins of XDA. Look at all the phones listed on the forum. They're all HTC phones. XDA is another name for an older htc phone. This site was made and is used only for HTC phones.

PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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then why is there xperia x1

JJbdoggg said:
then why is there xperia x1
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Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.

How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.

PCTechNerd said:
Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
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doh should have checked it out

Tawm said:
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
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That wouldn't work also, as it would make the main site very clustered. the current per phone forum layout is great, and I would hope the new site would maintain the same layout. Each phone definitely needs it's own forum for hardware hacks (like rooting, SPL's, custom ROM's, etc..) but with all Android devices in one place, it's easier for the community to discuss, mod, etc.. from device to device.

you got another yes here. i would like to see all android being supported.

I too would like to see all Android supported. Especially seeings how a lot of the development will apply to most devices.
I personally hope for a new site to offload some traffic. With android coming to more carriers there is bound to be much heavier traffic.

XDA has been invaluable to me since I got my titan a few years back.
As I have been considering the DROID as an upgrade, I would feel much better about that choice knowing it had a great community to support it despite not being an HTC device.

The same could apply to Windows Mobile though. There are great WinMo devices that aren't supported by the xda-dev's. They can only do so much.

I ststed this in another thread. ModMyMoto will have a section for Droid and Cliq. As far as the others Im sure a site such as PPCGeeks will have the other devices covered.
But I wouldnt be chosing a phone based on the presence of a forum. There will always be someone modding a device if it exists, and finding info is easy enough with google.
If all the devices were located on the same forum, you would have all kinds of tardos flashing files to incorrect devices.

If youve been on XDA for a while you know that these conversations come and go. XDA does their thing, they are the big dogs on the block so its not a big deal if it takes another site to fill in the gaps that XDA cant cover.
I post most of my work on alldroid.org because I would like to use that site for software related things and then use XDA for hardware related things for my G1. I think once more non-HTC phones hit the stores there will be a big influx of people looking for a site to mod on and I dont think XDA will be able to support it unless they dramatically change their ways.

Was going through my past subscriptions and I came upon this thread. Oh how the tides have changed

Ahhh this brings back so many memories. It's great to see how much XDA has progressed over the years!

For Devs and Themers: New XDA forum added!

I humbly suggest that all Devs who are Cooking ROMS and/or making software that is NOT device specific or are for multiple devices move their discussions/threads to the following forums:
XDA Android Software Development
Then we can allow much of the clutter on the Dream forum for just Dream specific software/ROMS, etc.
This forum, since it was the first on this site, is being used by a majority of devs (and, others) to develop/discuss many issues/items NOT specific to the HTC Dream.
I would believe that anyone who created a thread and wished it to be moved could have it done so by making a request to a moderator.
Let me know what you think.
ALSO, there is a general xda forum now for Android Themes:
XDA Android Themes
And, one for Applications and Games:
XDA Applications and Games

should clean things up considerably -- just have more sections to watch

Very, very good. I would hope a lot of threads get moved over there from the Magic/Hero/Dream forums to help seed the place a bit more. A vast majority of the Apps in the Dream Applications section, for example, could be moved over there...

yay, another forum to keep track of! (-_-)....

Wow...someone actually listened to our suggestions, and took action? I'm amazed!
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shaneaus said:
And, one for Applications and Games:
XDA Dream Applications and Games
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You should remove the word "Dream" from your link text....habitual, I know.

overground said:
Wow...someone actually listened to our suggestions, and took action? I'm amazed!
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You should remove the word "Dream" from your link text....habitual, I know.
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HA!!! LOL Fixed!

jubeh said:
yay, another forum to keep track of! (-_-)....
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Depends on your purpose for being here. I really would prefer just to check this one for new ROMS, check the Dream Theme forum for new themes...
Then go to the general ones for everything else.
Just makes it easier to search for information! I hate having to troll through ALL the posts here to look for the general Android software development threads!!!

Can we have a dedicated development section for the Cliq, even though its a non HTC device? I mean I know XDA was started specifically for HTC phones. But isn't it time XDA expands and matures?

XDA-Developers and non HTC devices
thefoss has an *excellent* point which has been going around my head in the past couple of days. With the imminent arrival (and my imminent purchase ) of at least two quite interesting Android devices, made by companies other than HTC.
thefoss said:
Can we have a dedicated development section for the Cliq, even though its a non HTC device? I mean I know XDA was started specifically for HTC phones. But isn't it time XDA expands and matures?
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XDA was founded as, and has been a site dedicated to HTC manufactured devices (my first one was my Typhoon which to this day I still sometimes use). Such devices always sported Windows Mobile (all different incarnations) so it used to be a synonym with Windows Mobile/CE/whatever. The exception being the Sony Xperia X1, I assume because of its relative relevance on the marketas well as the fact that sports Windows Mobile.
Then came Android on the HTC Dream. At this point, XDA (at least on my opinion) became the Driving Force behind the "Expert" Android OS mod as well as to the informal user support movement.
We all know that a barrage of new Android devices is coming down the pipe, not just one or two...
What do you guys think? Mods? Owners of the forum? Poll? This is a major deal (to me) and I am torn on the issue...

New phone threads, what's wrong mods?

It seems to me that any thread pertaining to another phone has been removed by the mods lately. What's up with this? I understand that the thread may not be about the infuse, so I understand your logic for moving them. However, what about those of us that may want to discuss new phone options with fellow Infuse owners that we have been in a community with for some time now?
To me, it seems as if you're controlling what a new group of friends can talk about, and basically being an overly harsh dictator. I respect the opinion of my fellow Infusers, so why can't I talk about new phones with them in a place where I know it will be mostly Infuse owners? It's the GENERAL section for a reason. You're supposed to post any random discussion you want there, so long as it is not offensive and is appropriate for all.
Specifically, I'm referring to the threads about the galaxy note. I was enjoying reading the opinions of all of you, as I will probably be upgrading to it this summer.
And don't say that I can go read in the AT&T note section, because that is not what I am talking about. In the AT&T note section, you get the opinions of all sorts of people coming from different devices, whereas a thread here will only gather the opinions of Infuse owners. I want to be able to talk about new phones without the thread being deleted or moved after a few days.
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Sorry for the lengthy response, I just think the mods should be a bit more lenient.

There should be one thread for all of it. People can post about it without clogging up the forum.
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big infuse comparison thread.....
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I have been holding my tongue...
BUT I'm kinda getting there:
HERE IS WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO POST IT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255388
All non-Infuse phone goes there...
skyrot, all-trix, galax Not, etc...you get the idea

Sorry, forgot about that thread as its a sticky and I do most of my reading on my phone, where stickies are under a different tab. My bad. Although I still think it wouldn't be that terrible to have a thread here and there regarding specific new phones. Whoops.
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welchertc said:
Sorry, forgot about that thread as its a sticky and I do most of my reading on my phone, where stickies are under a different tab. My bad. Although I still think it wouldn't be that terrible to have a thread here and there regarding specific new phones. Whoops.
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np..i don't have any issue usually, but as new threads get created with only a few posts, the older but good thread with lots of material gets pushed back.
We end up with such a large clutter that is harder to follow.
bronco is actually pretty tolerant...I've on seen one thread got locked in the past several months.

Try Dolphin HD with desktop toggle add-on for full web page browsing from phone.

If you want to discuss about a new phone, if that alreday has a dedicated forum, then you can talk about it there.
If not you can post in General-General.
Certainly you cant post in the Infuse forum.
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P.S. You can also use the Infuse Comparison thread which is stickied on this forum

The Phone For You

First of all, there's been a hell of a lot of threads being made for a while now asking 'What phone to get' or 'S3 vs One X' for example and now there's more and more being made daily and there's just too many now.
That's where the idea for this threads comes into place. Any questions you wanna ask about comparing phones before you buy them, ask them in here.
There's 2 main good points about this -
1. Someone else in here could've already asked about phones that you wanted to compare. If so, you can read the answer and that way you've found out exactly what you wanted without typing a single thing or having to wait for a reply. And...
2. It will stop what will inevitably be more posts all regarding the same thing, from littering the forum. And any that are posted outside of this thread can be directed straight to here where their answer could already be awaiting them.
Simple as that!
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Agreed, But really, Popular and repetitive comparisons like the S3 vs ONE X is easily googleable now, If not websites, Other android forums might have discussed that before.
But yeah, Both the popular and unpopular phone comparisons need only one thread, Even the tablet ones, They are multiplying now.
Also, In that way, Someone with a similar phone comparison (popular or not) as yours will be easier to find and you will be able to choose carefully without turning the general forums into a "What phone to buy" forums.
Oh and BTW, Can you make one for the "My phone is bricked/laggy/(insert problem here)" threads?

I just used the S3 vs One X as an example really, but yeah I totally agree that google has it covered and youtube is full of videos for the high end phones against each other.
The aim is to make this easier for people anyway so hopefully it works. I PMd orb3000 just after I made this to see if he'd consider making it a sticky. Not sure if he will or not, but that'll then make it even easier to be honest.
And I already think there's a thread for that. I could be wrong but I think I saw one a while back. I'll have a look around and then if not, I'll make one either later today or tomorrow. It all depends on how busy I am
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Nexus 5 or something else?

Hello
I think my Desire Z might have just died. I was waiting for Project Ara to produce something but after they have announced a worthless test run in Puerto Rico I have no choice....
My 1st choice from the start has been the Nexus 5. The ability to choose and every ROM is I think awesome.
I also looked at the Samsung Galaxy K zoom but I have quickly discarded it as I see no ROM development.
So, should I go with the Nexus 5 or do you recommend something else?

riahc3 said:
Hello
I think my Desire Z might have just died. I was waiting for Project Ara to produce something but after they have announced a worthless test run in Puerto Rico I have no choice....
My 1st choice from the start has been the Nexus 5. The ability to choose and every ROM is I think awesome.
I also looked at the Samsung Galaxy K zoom but I have quickly discarded it as I see no ROM development.
So, should I go with the Nexus 5 or do you recommend something else?
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I like the new Motorola devices like the moto x moto g droid ultra and nexus 6 but my favorite phone to rom is the note 2
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If you have not talked to me and your interested pm me.
Don't ask about it in someone's thread that's rude.

Thats it? One suggestion from XDA?

I'm still using the Nexus 5 and it's working after as smooth as ever! Nexus 6 IMO too expensive ATM..
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riahc3 said:
Thats it? One suggestion from XDA?
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Yes, because everyone else knows the rule that any and all 'what phone should I get' questions go in the designated thread.
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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Well depends on your budget that is. Nexus 6 is too costly and Nexus 5 is the right money for the right device. But if I were I would look into the OnePlus One.

ShadowLea said:
Yes, because everyone else knows the rule that any and all 'what phone should I get' questions go in the designated thread.
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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Yes, because you and others, find it so fun to go thru a 1237 page thread were there are dozens of people asking and talking about what phone to get.
And AFAIK, there is no rule that asking what phone to get with my requirements and/or price range should belong in that thread.
Just look at the first post:
mines is either galaxy s3 or galaxy note for t-mobile
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It doesnt even state a guideline, requirements, etc.....I could put Im getting a Nexus 5 and nothing else.
Im sorry for brutally owning you like that but someone has to do it
Tiash420 said:
Well depends on your budget that is. Nexus 6 is too costly and Nexus 5 is the right money for the right device. But if I were I would look into the OnePlus One.
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Yeah, price range for me would be Nexus 5 but that is dynamic depending on what else is out there.
I have been recommended the OnePlus One (or Two) as well. The only issue I have with it is that they are going now with this is OxygenOS (yet another distro of Android just like Linux has Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, etc.) and I feel that is a stepback. Also, I really miss that it has no microSD (this is getting more common also this applies to the Nexus 5) and no wireless charging. But, it is a awesome phone nonetheless.

riahc3 said:
Yes, because you and others, find it so fun to go thru a 1237 page thread were there are dozens of people asking and talking about what phone to get.
And AFAIK, there is no rule that asking what phone to get with my requirements and/or price range should belong in that thread.
Just look at the first post:
It doesnt even state a guideline, requirements, etc.....I could put Im getting a Nexus 5 and nothing else.
Im sorry for brutally owning you like that but someone has to do it
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If you call that owning you haven't been on the internet long enough. I'm a woman on the internet. I'm used to far worse.
If you'd taken a minute to see why all other threads identical to yours end up locked, you'd see that the collective mod reply is identical to mine.
But if you require an example, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611756
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3006574
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3006580
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3003009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3001793
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2985689
Shall I go on, or is the point clear enough?
You've been here long enough to know this.
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riahc3 said:
I have been recommended the OnePlus One (or Two) as well. The only issue I have with it is that they are going now with this is OxygenOS (yet another distro of Android just like Linux has Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, etc.) and I feel that is a stepback. Also, I really miss that it has no microSD (this is getting more common also this applies to the Nexus 5) and no wireless charging. But, it is a awesome phone nonetheless.
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Bro I'm a Linux user, I know what distros are an I also know about OxygenOS but CM and PA still officially supports the OPO. So I don't see the problem here. You can always wipe and flash
And secondly about the storage, The Nexus 5 16GB costs $349 And the OnePlus One 64GB costs $349 so its a better deal than the Nexus plus the One had a better hardware from all aspects. Plus a lot of sensors. So it's still up to you which one your prefer man.

riahc3 said:
Yes, because you and others, find it so fun to go thru a 1237 page thread were there are dozens of people asking and talking about what phone to get.
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People don't read from the beginning. They read the most recent posts. Because they're not stupid, and (usually) don't reply to posts that are several years old. Frankly, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked/merged already.
That said, look at the LG G2. Same guts as the Nexus 5, but with a far superior camera, much bigger battery, and slightly bigger screen (in practically the same size body). Development doesn't match the Nexus 5, but that's like saying aftermarket customization doesn't match a Honda Civic. Alternative, but a bit more expensive (yet still cheap), there's the OnePlus One. It's basically an unofficial Nexus 5.5.

Lg g2, a better nexus 5 with a low street price
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ShadowLea said:
If you call that owning you haven't been on the internet long enough. I'm a woman on the internet. I'm used to far worse.
If you'd taken a minute to see why all other threads identical to yours end up locked, you'd see that the collective mod reply is identical to mine.
But if you require an example, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611756
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3006574
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3006580
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3003009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3001793
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2985689
Shall I go on, or is the point clear enough?
You've been here long enough to know this.
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1st thread - Closed because it was replied to a year later
2nd thread - Closing it doesnt even make sense. Its a tablet thread and it gets redirected to a smartphone thread?
3rd thread - Very little information
4th thread- First reply, is a spamfest of websites
5th thread - Asking for chinese products and then getting like 5 a spamfest of websites
6th thread - Same as 4 and 5
7th thread - This one takes the cake. How can you ask about two phones, for whatever reason, and have the thread closed?
If its going to be like that, my suggestion towards XDA is simply close all sections including phone sections except phone development sections . If XDA strictly wants to dedicate itself to development and wont allow simple questions, then fine. But come on, closing some of those threads were pathetic more so the tablet ones.
Make a entire subsection for "What device should I get". This way you dont have clutter in the general sections.
Also, it is pathetic that you use the sex card to make yourself look like a victim. I am disgusted by your attitude when there are women around the globe being sexually harrassed and even burned. You should feel ashamed of yourself for even mentioning after getting owned that you are a woman. Very disrespectful.
People don't read from the beginning. They read the most recent posts. Because they're not stupid, and (usually) don't reply to posts that are several years old. Frankly, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked/merged already.
That said, look at the LG G2. Same guts as the Nexus 5, but with a far superior camera, much bigger battery, and slightly bigger screen (in practically the same size body). Development doesn't match the Nexus 5, but that's like saying aftermarket customization doesn't match a Honda Civic. Alternative, but a bit more expensive (yet still cheap), there's the OnePlus One. It's basically an unofficial Nexus 5.5.
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Thats the exact problem: Someone posts "I want a phone" on page (lets say) 500. Same day a couple of people post the same thing and now the thread is at page 502. People wont go back to page 500 to help that person, they will just go to 502 and help whatever they see on that page.
It is TOO long of a thread to have a continous discussion about one member's option.

The real issue here is that xda has a lot of users. If even a small fraction of them opened threads to ask for advice on which device to purchase then many "more important" threads would get buried by the sheer volume of these threads. xda doesn't want to ban these discussions outright, so there currently are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!