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Returned the G2X , waiting for the HTC Sensation 4G

Usually I am not that cell phone picky , but I never did enjoy this phone.
1. Horrible screen IMO(when compared against the Amoled screens) LCD flashlight corners really bothered me.
2. Form factor : It is too long for the screen size , too much wasted space on the bottom.
3. Power button on top was awkward ( maybe too used to Samsungs)
4. Earpiece quality seemed muffled and too quiet sometimes
5. Picture quality below average
Thats it. Will be going back to either galaxy 4g or Nexus S for now. Looking forward to the HTC Sensation 4G on June 8th or the Galaxy S2 .
I realize that like many things , cell phone preferences are very subjective. If you are enjoying the virtues of this phone( of which there are many) have fun till the next greatest thing

Sad to see you go. Good luck with the sensation, it should be an amazing device.

Sensation is a great device but have fun waiting months for unlocked bootloader,kernels and of course CM7. If ur interested in any of those features, be patient very patient
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I believe cyanogen said he was moving away from HTC until they stop locking the bootloader. The sensation may not actually see cm7.

I guess HTC getting too cocky and going the motofail route only time will tell if they made the right decision, but for instance you can see currently the amount of motofail atrix in the market section.
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My brother got the HTC Thunderbolt which is the qHD LCD display. It too has bleed LCD issue. I'm assuming this is very common issue for LCD display.

Bye
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Still deciding my self. I'll probably end up keeping it though. Any minor issues, except for lcd bleed, will most likely be addressed by the devs.
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I can't fathom why you would return the G2X because of the Sensation. The screen issues will be exactly the same, and everything else will be worse because stock ROMs *always* have bugs. The difference is the G2X is days/weeks away from its being fixed, and the Sensation will be lucky to get updates at all the way HTC is going.

Gudluck with your decision. Your reasons are all minor problems for me. Ive been very happy with G2x and love the fact that the world's greatest android dev, Cyanogen is supporting the phone himself. It only means a clear and brighter feature for G2x. I wont have to worry getting left behind with him supporting G2x.
And gudluck with sensation's poor battery life knowing htc the battery wouldn't even last for half a day.

Compared to the sampled display any phone is gonna look dull even the sensation with the qhd display. Qhd just means more resolution, not better colors or contrast.
I bet the ips panel on the g2x will have better colors than the super LCD on the sensation
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rukawa2k said:
My brother got the HTC Thunderbolt which is the qHD LCD display. It too has bleed LCD issue. I'm assuming this is very common issue for LCD display.
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The thunderbolt has a wvga screen not a qhd one
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Maybe people got so spoiled on the Black blacks and saturated colors on an amoled screen

Cm 7 is good but is not the greatest all is personal preference In the long run. There are also more developers beside cyanogen. That are willing to take on the phone. It's a HTC phone that alone will make tons of developers for sense. Run towards it regardless of the phone locked bootloader.
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Yeah, I can see the decision is tough; I opted for the G2x purely for the stock and freedom to truly "own" my phone. If I could find a way to pair my phone with external speakers to hear the ringer through those speakers I would be in "G2x heaven".
Hope your decision works out for ya.

That extra room at he bottom come in handy for otterbox type cases so the phone will be protected more. HTC is known for having huge batterylife issues look up the stats on thunderbolt. One reviewer left the phone alone all day and it still died after 5 hours of NO USE.

I think I can settle for G2x because:
HDMI output: playing games on 42" TV is soooo nice!
easy to root: I can get more control on the phone but the branding is very limited.
"darker" black compared with MT4 (good screen).
money factor (Sensation will be $650 without contract).

wondercoolguy said:
That extra room at he bottom come in handy for otterbox type cases so the phone will be protected more. HTC is known for having huge batterylife issues look up the stats on thunderbolt. One reviewer left the phone alone all day and it still died after 5 hours of NO USE.
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Not all HTC devices are bad. The Nexus One had very good battery life, however I agree, the Thunderbolt was awful. Then again that's what happens when you go with a 1400mA battery on 4g. People using the extended battery are seeing much improved battery life.

Take care. Not to be mean but people not a days are to picky about what you get. The G2X is a great phone when you put it next to the Nexus S and the galaxy 4g. My main selling point for the G2X is that its right next to the galaxy 4g in my T-Mobile store. I show ppl how slow the galaxy 4g is compared to the G2X when it comes to normal things.

Have to agree. With Cyan on board for support, the only way the G2x can go is up

I think I will stay with G2x after testing Sensation

I had an opportunity to borrow one from corp store rep.
Unfortunately, I am not impressed with this machine. The screen gets washed out if you watch more than 30 degrees off while G2x doesn't (it gets blue tint though).
The rep told me it gets 24xx on Quadrant, which is about same as my G2x.
Moreover, mine doesn't have much problem, so it may be wise for me to stay with G2x and wait for Samsung Hercules.

The screen size makes me want the sensation. The screen quality keeps me at the g2x
G2x with faux AOSP

Timely thread for me. I'm returning my 2nd one and was really studying that Sensation a little while ago....."Should I cut my losses and get this"? Looks pretty good, it really does, but I'm staying with the G2X.
Hopefully the third one works without the reboots. But it is so nice I think I'd likely try a fourth. This after much thought.
It definately needs replacing.....hell it disconnected w/ black screen WHILE I was talking to the T mobile rep today LOL and while it did not reboot in the night, it did lose the bookmarks.
But my daughters is still running perfectly. Not one problem.
And man, this phone is just like her. When its good, it's very very good, but when it's bad....
I really love this phone.

How often are you getting these reboots? I've had a total of 3 G2X's in my household, and none of them suffer from reboots. I had to replace mine today because of USB issues, but other than that the phones have been great.

1st locked up twice and the flashlight went on (?) and I had to pull the battery. Frankly that wasn't enough to return it but two days later was when they mysteriously disappeared fron the shelves and I had an Ick attack. It was on my 14th day and I exchanged it, just in case.
This one as I said elsewhere has been resetting in the night. Every morning I wake up to the phone wanting my sim password. I accidently activated that and like it. But seeing it tells me it has reset, which I would not notice otherwise I don't think. And I have been interupted three or four times on my calls with the phone shutting off. And it reboots randomly and frequently during the day. This is not good.
The first day (friday) it locked up with a very loud buzzing sound, not like the vibration but a loud buzz. This is my main reason for sending it back. I do believe the reboots issues will be fixed with the update.
In retospect I probably should have kept the first one. It was problem free other than the two incidents.

I really don't know which way to go.I'm a die hard invidia fan and the tegra 2 IMO will outperform the Snapdragon anytime but due to all the build issues with the G2X I just don't know where to look.
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78

Big toss up. Screen size is very tempting. I loved HTC built devices and the LG kinda let me down with all its kinks, but the support is nice.

I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.

tombaker1 said:
Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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In all honesty, that second link was mostly garbage. If you're going to compare 3 devices, at least do it in a common and neutral environment. It seems a bit silly to judge text clarity when you're looking at several different examples on different backgrounds and text effects.
Angle of view is also useless after a certain point. If you're viewing your phone at a 20 degree angle, it might be best to worry about untying yourself and getting away from your kidnappers first.

wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!

tombaker1 said:
Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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Yet another example of how HTC made such a huge profit. Cheaped out on decent hardware parts.
G2x with faux AOSP

speedbreaker said:
wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!
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Yes, or atleast its supposed to sit a bit inside the housing so that when you set it face down it doesn't touch the surface.

booch137 said:
I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.
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I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
Sensation Dimenions
4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.

mt3g said:
I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
Sensation Dimenions
4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.
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Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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jrwingate6 said:
Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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ya I dont want plastic at all... and launcher pro will take care of the sense hogging down if it does slow it down... doubt it will. The Sensations resolution helps with pixels... I've seen a couple captivates, and a vibrants that had weird looks to the text stuff... Sure they are bright and vivid but clarity is awesome...
Besides that Samsung has a well bad rap when it comes to phones, lol... just saying the G2X is awesome but I prefer HTC and Sense.

Let us know how you feel when its not so great in sunlight.
G2x with faux AOSP

remember people
the sensation has most likely been sitting in boxes with those encrypted bootloaders.
and the benchmarks i see do not score 2400 on the sensation.
But it should be a decent phone, also the sensation has the mhl connection not a seperate hdmi and i hear it doesnt come with the cable. and they are hard or imposible to find.
also the mhl standard does allow charging but no hardware out at this time knows that standard so no charging while using hdmi out.
It did take 3 tries but i think i have a good g2x finallly it was dated april 30th for anyone that cares
So i would wait and see whats said once they come out.
Im sure it will be a fine phone but if you are into modding id wait and check out that bootloader first.

Sense ui eats so much ram!
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No way would I touch a sensation after I researched it for my buyers remorse period when I bought the G2x. Glad I made the right choice in choosing a phone. I never had a problem with any of my G2x phones. I traded the first one because of the backlight but never had any reboots or issues. The second one is near flawless.
The Sensation looks like a sweet phone and all but it is just to much of a step back in too many departments coming from the G2x.
Less powerful CPU/GPU
1Gb of Storage vs 8Gb
Lower Front Cam Res
MHL HDMI Out - Power
Encrypted Bootloader (which may or may not be unlocked) (HTC said "future phones would be unlocked")
Ram Killer aka Sense
Sure you can opt to run Launcher Pro and not use Sense... but that doesn't mean that Sense just vanishes. All those graphic files have to be stored somewhere. I cooked many Sense roms to know the difference in weight between a Sense and Non-Sense rom.

Moving from SGS2 to HTC Sensation

I know many ppl may disagree with my decision, but I have been using the SGS2 for 2 months now and I was not impressed with the quality. The built quality is really cheap were I have a small crack next to the power button and the phone never fell!!! Also the signal drops and heat issue make things worse.
The only alternative now is the HTC Sensation. I noticed ppl were complaining about the death grip and lag in the browser, but I think ppl are over reacting and its not big of an issue.
Anyway what I like most of the Sensation is the Sense UI, and the amazing built quality, compared to the SGS2, the Sensation has a way better feel in the hand.
What do you guys think?

Welcome to the world of notification LEDs!

I have both and they are great in their own way. Yes sensation users also have retorted problems like over heating, signal issues etc. Honestly all these issues look common to all high end dual core phones.
Build quality is better with sensation and feels nice to hold in the hand.
Performance is better with sgs2 and feels much snappier than sensation even with out sense. Altough in everyday use it isn't that noticeable.
Display is better with sgs2 by a long margin according to me.
Many sensation users have reported wifi issues, but for me wifi with sensation is way faster than sgs2.
With the same number of apps, battery is better in sgs2 than compared to sensation. Maybe sense is the culprit here, I don't know but I'm not turning off sense as I like the eye candy it brings
Mobile network wise, I get similar speeds with att 3g network.
Finally keep the one which you like most. Looks you like the sensation more, then go for it.
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Death grip is a real issue brother. But yeah the browser is buttery smooth imo. The Sensation feels AWESOME in the hand, Aluminum body and has really nice heft to it. I'm sure you won't regret getting it.

kirdroid said:
I have both and they are great in their own way. Yes sensation users also have retorted problems like over heating, signal issues etc. Honestly all this issues look common to all high end dual core phones.
Build quality is better with sensation and feels nice to hold in the hand.
Performance is better with sgs2 and feels much snappier than sensation even with out sense. All though in everyday use it isn't that noticeable.
Display is better with sgs2 by a long margin according to me.
Many sensation users have reported wifi issues, but for me wifi with sensation is way faster than sgs2.
With the same number of apps, battery is better in sgs2 than compared to sensation. Maybe sense is the culprit here, I don't know but I'm not turning off sense as I like the eye candy it brings
Mobile network wise, I get similar speeds with att 3g network.
Finally keep the one which you like most. Looks you like the sensation more, then go for it.
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I wasnt impressed with the over-hyped screen, the yellowish tint and the banding makes it look really bad, it looses the "cleanness" or "pureness" of the screen. In addition the screen gets a burn in affect very quickly.
I dont think droping calls would be a common thing in high end smartphones. In my SGS2, I would say 40% of my calls gets dropped and I get a no signal sign in the notification bar. Also the heating is really bad to an extent that u cant carry the phone with your hands anymore! Plus when it gets REALLY hot, the application running would crash in several minutes.

For me I don't have dropped call issue in SGS2, yellow tint not noticeable to me in normal use, banding irritates me sometimes. I mean we can go on discussing pros and cons in both of them. There are similar threads in both the forums and eventually it leads to a flame war.
If you are asking about buying a sensation in this forum, you are going to get favorable responses towards sensation, the same applies in sgs2 forums as well.
The best thing is to read thru sensation general forums and see what issues users are complaining about and then try out yourself to see if those happen to you or if you can live with that

kirdroid said:
For me I don't have dropped call issue in SGS2, yellow tint not noticeable to me in normal use, banding irritates me sometimes. I mean we can go on discussing pros and cons in both of them. There are similar threads in both the forums and eventually it leads to a flame war.
If you are asking about buying a sensation in this forum, you are going to get favorable responses towards sensation, the same applies in sgs2 forums as well.
The best thing is to read thru sensation general forums and see what issues users are complaining about and then try out yourself to see if those happen to you or if you can live with that
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Yes you are right, but I posted in the sensation forum because I need more convincing in buying it, as I already have the SGS2 and I know what is the device like.

My favorite thing about my sensation is the qHD screen. For me, I really enjoy the extra screen real estate. Also, I think the colors on the sensation screen look very true to life. On the other hand I've noticed that most AMOLED screens of all types (AMOLED, AMOLED+, SAMOLED+) produce colors that are so vibrant that they look unreal.
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Hi, I also have Sesation. I have no problems with it. Well, dead grip is noticeable, but you must hold it in the right top corner to lose one dot of signal. I have no problems with it.
And of corset Sense is much more beautifull than touchwiz.
Before I have bought Sensation, I compare both phones in the shop. And it isn't secret, that Sensation feel much better in hand than SGS2. And in my opinion build quality of sensation is more important than SGS2 is for 0.001 ms faster
But there is one thing I don't like about sensation. And this is battery. I have to charge it every day. And i am not heavy user.
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mbushnaq00 said:
I know many ppl may disagree with my decision, but I have been using the SGS2 for 2 months now and I was not impressed with the quality. The built quality is really cheap were I have a small crack next to the power button and the phone never fell!!! Also the signal drops and heat issue make things worse.
The only alternative now is the HTC Sensation. I noticed ppl were complaining about the death grip and lag in the browser, but I think ppl are over reacting and its not big of an issue.
Anyway what I like most of the Sensation is the Sense UI, and the amazing built quality, compared to the SGS2, the Sensation has a way better feel in the hand.
What do you guys think?
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If I was in your shoes,I would give it a while and see what else pops up.
Yes I own a Sensation and do like most things about it.
I do feel they rushed it to market to beat the Samsung intro.
The new I Phone should be out shortly and I'm thinking the new Blackberry.
There may be an "updated" Sensation as well.
You can bet they've been watching and learning from the Sensation.
Patience will be your ally here.

I like the Sensation but will be buying what ever SGSII variant T-Mobile gets. The browser on my Sensation has never been laggy. In fact, I think its pretty fast. Faster than my G2X. Where the phone lags is in its ****ty Sense UI. HTC added to much eye candy to it resulting in a boggy feel.
Like I said, I like the Sensation but I really like the direction Samsung is going with Android.
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Welcome to the Sensation. I really love this phone and i expect you will too. The SGSII is a great phone but i find in the long run build quality is one of the most important features cuz you can always flash a new rom if you're not liking the way your phones running. the only downside to coming over is that the development is still growing so you'll have a little bit of a wait if you like changing up your roms a lot. but you definitely wont be dissapointed!

Hi, for what its worth, I've had both too, most of what pol have said on here is true. Each phone has its pro's and cons, but I will say, I moved from the sgs2 to the sensation, and have moved back to the sgs2 again. For me, the build quality of the sensation isn't any better than the sgs2, due to the stupid battery cover arrangement on the sensation. And the issue with dust on the sensation speaks volumes about build quality. Just cos there is a piece of aluminium involved doesn't make it better specifically. Actually, from a radio point of view its just plain stupid, as ppl are now realizing.

I was very close to buying a Sensation but I opted for the Galaxy S2. My reasoning being that the Sensation is not optimised, Sense is bloat and the device is locked. I was simply not prepared to wait months to get a stable ROM. I liked the build of the Sensation, the screen resolution and the prospect of the asynchronous processor but I considered it futile to buy a Sensation at that point. If I were in your position I would stick with the Galaxy S2 and wait to see what happens. When the Sensation finally gets unlocked and there are good ROM options available which help to get the most out of the hardware then make your decision. By the time that happens there might be a better option available for you.

Teso Dos Bichos said:
I was very close to buying a Sensation but I opted for the Galaxy S2. My reasoning being that the Sensation is not optimised, Sense is bloat and the device is locked. I was simply not prepared to wait months to get a stable ROM. I liked the build of the Sensation, the screen resolution and the prospect of the asynchronous processor but I considered it futile to buy a Sensation at that point. If I were in your position I would stick with the Galaxy S2 and wait to see what happens. When the Sensation finally gets unlocked and there are good ROM options available which help to get the most out of the hardware then make your decision. By the time that happens there might be a better option available for you.
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it is unlocked.
LeeDroid is stable so far for me
Screen res makes up for the SAMOLED+. What i hated about the SGS2 was the fact that the pictures i took looked AMAZING on the phones beautiful screen yet when i uploaded them looked not-as-good on the mac.
I would get the sensation, and if you dont like it you can get a SGS2 in a trade AND make some money on top. A few Sensation owners have netted SGS2+$100.

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A few Sensation owners have netted SGS2+$100.
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In the UK, the Sensation is 375 GBP and the SGS2 is 400 GBP and the SGS2's been out longer. You can pick up a Sensation on eBay for $450 while SGS2's are going for over $600. There are some idiots that bought SGS2's to use on T-Mobile so maybe one of them made a stupid swap out of desperation but the Sensation's not worth more than an SGS2 just about anywhere.

BarryH_GEG said:
In the UK, the Sensation is 375 GBP and the SGS2 is 400 GBP and the SGS2's been out longer. You can pick up a Sensation on eBay for $450 while SGS2's are going for over $600. There are some idiots that bought SGS2's to use on T-Mobile so maybe one of them made a stupid swap out of desperation but the Sensation's not worth more than an SGS2 just about anywhere.
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Two did on this very board. Withing the US though.
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Clivectmob said:
Hi, for what its worth, I've had both too, most of what pol have said on here is true. Each phone has its pro's and cons, but I will say, I moved from the sgs2 to the sensation, and have moved back to the sgs2 again. For me, the build quality of the sensation isn't any better than the sgs2, due to the stupid battery cover arrangement on the sensation. And the issue with dust on the sensation speaks volumes about build quality. Just cos there is a piece of aluminium involved doesn't make it better specifically. Actually, from a radio point of view its just plain stupid, as ppl are now realizing.
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I tell people this all of the time man. Just because a battery cover is aluminum, doesn't mean the phone is built better than one with a plastic cover. You don't see buttons falling off the GSII like you see on the Sensation. Your also 100% correct about the cell cignal along with every other signal passing through plastic easier than metals. Samsung uses plastic for a reason. Its light and it provides the end user with the most important aspect of a cell phone. Signal strength! The most rigid smart phone I've ever owned was the Vibrant. It lasted through over 50 fires and numerous drops. I always let it in my shirt pocket while at work and after coming out of a fire, it was usually wet. My Nexus One didn't even make it through 5 fires.
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Got both, out of the box sg2 works more flawlessly. Sensation looks better, love the led miss that on the sg2. Camera prefer sg2 more. Like the sense UI hate touchwiz. Internet is definitely much smoother and faster on the sg2. It's easier to navigate through text on sensation, edit copy paste cut works better on sensation.
HTC software works better and functions are more polished. I was very happy with sg2 but after using HTC don't think will be going back sg2, especially as I have flashed ROM sensation works even better.

In my eyes, the only things the Sensation has over the GS2 are build quality, screen res, UI, and the LED. The problem is that all these advantages are mitigated. Build quality is mitigated by the fact that it ruins signal (and realistically, a ton of people, myself included, put a cover on the phone, so we don't even feel/see the back of the phone). Screen res is mitigated by the fact that the screen is an outdated LCD and is pathetic in sunlight. Sense 3.0 is mitigated by the fact that it's laggy as heck. I guess the LED is the only thing not mitigated by anything lol.
I wanted the SGS2, but it seems like T-Mobile will be getting a variant of it in the U.S. that isn't as highly spec'd. That's realistically the only reason I got the Sensation (not the phone I wanted, but it was the best I could do).

How is this phone?

So I'm getting a new phone. Right now I have a Cliq 2, but I'm getting a new one in the next week.
Right now I'm trying to decide between this, the G2x, or the GSII. I would say the Amaze, but I've heard bad things about it.
I'm not trying to get you guys to tell me why I should get this phone over the others, I'd just like to know what this phone is like. What are the ups? The downs? How's the phones radio? Custom ROMs? Battery life? And anything else you feel might be good to know before I make a decision.
Thanks!

Well I would scratch off the G2x right off the bat and as for the other two? There is a thread about the GS2 and the Sensation a little ways down if you want to find it.

What did you heart bad about the Amaze? I see others jumping to that from this phone.
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masondoctorjt said:
What did you heart bad about the Amaze? I see others jumping to that from this phone.
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Yeah..they jump because its being offer by their provider due to issue having with out senny . Not because its owesome!! Lol
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masondoctorjt said:
What did you heart bad about the Amaze? I see others jumping to that from this phone.
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Yeah, I've heard that it's the phone the sensation was supposed to be, but apparently it's got awful battery life and a very small development community.
Nothing to bad, but if this phone is almost exactly like the Amaze, I'd rather go with this, because it's cheaper

Honestly just go look at the amaze forum. As far as I can see it isn't even fully rooted yet. I am happy with my sensation.. yes... Will I switch to a better phone the first chance I get... Yes... The t-mobile sg2 has almost the same hardware and really we still have the best phone they offer. Is the regular sg2 more powerful.. yes, but in reality there are a lot of things better with the sensation. It's all opinion though.. is the dev dead here.. no not really. We have superior sense development continuing on a daily basis here. The aosp dev is crawling because no code release from cm7. Ics is slower to dev on this phone definitely and noone has a good reason why. Personally I am satisfied with the sensation... Am I looking for the next thing I can afford and get... Yeah I am
Edit: And o yeah just x out the G2x its in a different league now in comparison
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Haha yea the Amaze. Xboarder is doing a commendable job trying to keep the dev community alive over there, but TBH it looks pretty slow over there. I think it's just him, Mike, NRG and ComputerKid holding down the fort. Faux might have dabbled in an Amaze kernel, but that's more or less it. It's too bad though. Seems like pretty nice hardware. Too bad it's US exclusive (I think?) so the dev community will remain small on that side of the fence.
Anyway, to the original question. Off the top of my head:
Sensation ups:
Relatively inexpensive now
Nice screen
Good dev community, kind of slow on ROMs lately but there isn't much else to do until ICS. Our kernel devs however are still very active.
Pretty snappy once you rid yourself of the stock rom/kernel
Official ICS is coming early next year per HTC
Sensation downs:
Wifi deathgrip when holding the phone in landscape (this one really sucks)
Reports of dust getting under the screen near the volume rocker (get a case that covers the volume rocker!)
Cell antenna is integrated into the removable back cover
Terrible battery life
Terrible speaker and low volume
CM7 never made it out of alpha stage
No true AOSP ROMs available for the speed freaks
You should probably ask this same question in the SGS2 forum.

Having just bought a sensation myself, I'm a little biased. Having said that, I'd stay far away from the g2x, I researched for weeks before deciding on a sensation and there are a LOT of people with a LOT of problems with the LG phone. I personally don't like the tmo version of the GS2, too big with a low res screen. I really like my sensation so far but I've only had it a single day.
Any of these will be a major step up from the cliq2 though, so I'd say read the forums and go with the one that suits you best.

There are rumours that Telstra (Australia) might be releasing the Amaze as their flagship 4G device.
That might help dev movement a little.
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my inputs on sensation:
Pros:
screen, speed, build quality, touchscreen responsiveness, Good ROM options on XDA
, excellent sound quality via headphone, nice camera (for both stills and movie)
Cons:
Bad speaker volume, Battery (Can be improved with aftermarket one like Anker), Poor cellular reception, wifi death grip
I have also used SGS2 of my friend and LG optimus one, both get more cellular signal bars than sensaion. Even my old BB curve has better reception for both cellular and wifi.

HTC Sensation 4G- price-performance ratio: Ok
abachhan75 said:
my inputs on sensation:
Pros:
screen, speed, build quality, touchscreen responsiveness, Good ROM options on XDA
, excellent sound quality via headphone, nice camera (for both stills and movie)
Cons:
Bad speaker volume, Battery (Can be improved with aftermarket one like Anker), Poor cellular reception, wifi death grip
I have also used SGS2 of my friend and LG optimus one, both get more cellular signal bars than sensaion. Even my old BB curve has better reception for both cellular and wifi.
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That's not quite my opinion!
I'm using the Sensation since April and I'm actually satisfied by using this phone! I have installed a custom ROM with other Kernel (CM7.1 based on Bricked AOSP v1.4ondemand_p1984)without Sense and without any HTC or Provider Apps. Everything nice to use!
But!!!
It might be better in terms of so many things!!
Positive:
It have the perfect size and form for a mobile phone- nice to handle, right size of display to manage and watch movies, have a very good camera with LED spots, it's excellent to listen to music over headphones, etc.
Everything perfect, you think!?
Negative:
you have to hold it with two fingers to get no restriction by receiving mobile networks or wifi, bad battery performance with standard ROM, high heat production while charging or using internet (3g or wifi), RAM and internal memory could be some more, the overall quality of housing and little parts (the materials of Samsung phones or especially Apple iPhones looks and feels better, "more expensive")
Summarized:
nice smartphone for beginner! relatively low price! lots of ROM's!
could have!
no must have!!!
But I also think, that the other smartphone manufacturers similar problems have!
So HTC is on a good way, I think!

The amaze is a way better phone then the sensation I just changed to it from the sensation, there isn't many devs but its further then the sensation was at this same time since release the unlock of the bootloader still lets you flash whatever you want and the battery life for me is better, I'm running sense nrgz28s rom its way faster then my sensation ever was, camera is way better front and back and storage space is better, more development will come to it and since HTC will be updating to ics this will be a better phone since it has nfc support as well I'd go for the amaze its also not a us exclusive wind mobile and telus carry it too I believe outside the us. IMO the only other comparable phone is the gs2 but I can't stand lower resolution aftee qhd
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I used to have the g2x but got sick of the random shut downs, tmobile replaced my g2x twice and I finally gave up on it. I have the sensation now and am pretty happy with it. The screen is a little bigger and much clearer than G2X. My only complaint is the speakerphone is very weak. Volume is too low to hear if in a crowded/loud area even on highest level. There's lots of great roms and support for this phone. I personally like hypersensation for it's minimalist feature set. Don't have any experience with the SGII but my sister has it and has been having some problems with it so it might be a few updates away from being perfect. The sensation has been out for a while now so most of the kinks have been worked out already. I get about 8 hours of pretty heavy use out of it on a single charge with an upgraded battery (more than a day with light use). I would recommend it.

KadaverHTCS said:
That's not quite my opinion!
(the materials of Samsung phones or especially Apple iPhones looks and feels better, "more expensive")
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Did he really just say that Samsung materials and feel of the phone is more expensive feeling than an HTC?

kingston73 said:
Having just bought a sensation myself, I'm a little biased. Having said that, I'd stay far away from the g2x, I researched for weeks before deciding on a sensation and there are a LOT of people with a LOT of problems with the LG phone. I personally don't like the tmo version of the GS2, too big with a low res screen. I really like my sensation so far but I've only had it a single day.
Any of these will be a major step up from the cliq2 though, so I'd say read the forums and go with the one that suits you best.
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Problems with an LG phone!? Never!
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KadaverHTCS said:
That's not quite my opinion!
I'm using the Sensation since April and I'm actually satisfied by using this phone! I have installed a custom ROM with other Kernel (CM7.1 based on Bricked AOSP v1.4ondemand_p1984)without Sense and without any HTC or Provider Apps. Everything nice to use!
But!!!
It might be better in terms of so many things!!
Positive:
It have the perfect size and form for a mobile phone- nice to handle, right size of display to manage and watch movies, have a very good camera with LED spots, it's excellent to listen to music over headphones, etc.
Everything perfect, you think!?
Negative:
you have to hold it with two fingers to get no restriction by receiving mobile networks or wifi, bad battery performance with standard ROM, high heat production while charging or using internet (3g or wifi), RAM and internal memory could be some more, the overall quality of housing and little parts (the materials of Samsung phones or especially Apple iPhones looks and feels better, "more expensive")
Summarized:
nice smartphone for beginner! relatively low price! lots of ROM's!
could have!
no must have!!!
But I also think, that the other smartphone manufacturers similar problems have!
So HTC is on a good way, I think!
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But the iPhone is glass so dropping it usually means a shatter, and the GSII is plastic, along with most Samsung's, so they tend to feel cheap.

Is this phone reliable?

I was going to get a Desire HD on eBay but I just realised the Sensation is about the same price anyway, so I thought I'd get one of these instead.
However, I've just been reading the Amazon reviews and there's a lot of negativity. Stuff about the headphone socket breaking and calling random numbers when you're listening to music, random reboots, crashes, slow performance, etc...
So I'm asking owners here, do you find it to be a good phone? Are those issues common or is it just that only the few unfortunate people who got a few faulty units did the Amazon reviews?
Thanks.

Hi,
Phone works fine. I don't think that you will have too many problems.
My main complaints are:
. Backcover make some noise.
. Batery life. 1 day max. Slow charging.
. Backspeaker not loud.
I'm happy with my sensation and wont change it this year.
Regards
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I personally find it to be a very solid phone and have no complaints apart from the crappy battery life

ypsmav said:
Hi,
Phone works fine. I don't think that you will have too many problems.
My main complaints are:
. Backcover make some noise.
. Batery life. 1 day max. Slow charging.
. Backspeaker not loud.
I'm happy with my sensation and wont change it this year.
Regards
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+1 to all above. However depending on some custom roms, you may get a bit better battery life and/or audio quality. I changed out my back cover with a white one and put a clear hybrid aprolink tpu/clear plastic case.
I personally still like my phone...not love...I love my Nexus One LOL. So my next phone will most likely be a Nexus of some iteration.

I love my sensation! Its been wonderful! Don't regret my purchaser at all! I'm really enjoying my device!
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mine has been awesome. its pretty durable, although i broke the digitizer once and the back cover is a bit smashed up, but that has nothing to do with the hardware.
i liked the phone on CM7 and i LOVE it on CM9. its the way it should be now.

Yes it is a beast phone very reliable
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About the headphones issue as far as i know its caused because of the paint of the backcover falling of, it only happens when using headphones with microphone, with normal headphones you'll hear like unplugging them, there's a thread and easy fix for that
The randoom reboots seem to be caused because of a problem with battery pins, there is a thread for that, i havent had this. But it can also be soft related.
Slow performance? It depends on what you use your phone for or what you have used before (no ios ultra smooth ui here), however for example, with the adreno drivers update i saw an inmense improvement in games and flash performance, no more laggy youtube even with hd videos, along with a custom kernel and rom this thing is fast, but i've noticed the lack of ram when trying to do heavy multitask it doesnt always keeps your apps opened, even if you switch between them instantly, a score of 6500~ in antutu and 45-50 in nenamark2 gives you an idea of performance.
Another issues are the dust under the screen (this really bugs me under sunlight) and the wifi problem, some overheat and not so good build quality (but great design), the touchscreen issue that i never had until i dropped mine (there's thread and fix), but overall i really like it and most of these problems are not so bad. Most common issues are dust, wifi, touchscreen issues.
Short answer: yes, buy it you can sell it anyway if you dont like it. And ALWAYS test everything before buying it.

It does worry me that the headphone socket can break just because of normal wear and tear or a bit of chipping. Might just go for the Desire HD since it seems to have a better reliability record. Or maybe a Desire S.

Hexgore said:
It does worry me that the headphone socket can break just because of normal wear and tear or a bit of chipping. Might just go for the Desire HD since it seems to have a better reliability record. Or maybe a Desire S.
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It doesn't break just the paint around it chips, if it does there's plenty of simple fixes or you can just get a new backcover for it. I don't really know about the desire series I thought that was low-mid level devices
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I had my first sensation last year and then I got the EVO 3d gsm and I have to admit the sensation is vary reliable and its blazing fast so yes I mist my sensation and sold my EVO 3d and I now have another sensation and I love it
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Been enjoying my S4G for a year with no real issues!

Hexgore said:
It does worry me that the headphone socket can break just because of normal wear and tear or a bit of chipping. Might just go for the Desire HD since it seems to have a better reliability record. Or maybe a Desire S.
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The DHD was also my first option but i've read that its battey life is extremely poor, and the screen isnt as good as Sensation
Its not that this phone isnt reliable, its just that it has some issues, most of them have an easy fix.

Loving my sensation ! Only complain so far is stock htc headphones randomly calls people.. and music plays/pause by itself but i use the Icrap Headphones and it works well
However battery is really disgusting you might want to purchase an anker along whit your sensation...
And for slow charging i suggest an ipad2 charger just use your regular usb cord whit the ipads little box thingy for charging..
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+1 for the screen, my dad has a DHd and the screen looks horrible compared to my sensation also the battery life is really bad, he finds it really difficult to get a days usage and usually has to charge it once in a day I would reccomend the sensation tbh
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So this fix would work for the headphone problem?
I reckon I'll go for a Sensation TBH

For what you can get the Sensation for now, it's a bit of a no brainer really, especially with the qHD screen.

Hexgore said:
So this fix would work for the headphone problem?
I reckon I'll go for a Sensation TBH
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Yep
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I went for it and got a Sensation off eBay, awaiting delivery
Just reading up on all the rooting, S-OFF, supercid, etc guides for when it arrives

Yes it is. Got the sensation last summer, then started switching through different phones. Now I'm back on my sensation. Best phone ever
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