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Move to SD = no widget

I installed Cyanogen Mod 7 on my new desire and recently discovered that if I move an app to the sd card I am no longer able to use/ add its widgets. Is this normal?
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Yes, some apps don't work if they're on your sd instead of your phone.

The thing is, they do work, just the widget disappears from the list. Namely, I am talking about Evernote and Springpad.

impactor said:
I installed Cyanogen Mod 7 on my new desire and recently discovered that if I move an app to the sd card I am no longer able to use/ add its widgets. Is this normal?
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Very normal.
Not sure if it still does it in the latest update, but in the previous version Evernote (2.5?) moving the app to SD also breaks the "take a photo" function. You can take a photo, but they never attach properly.
I'm guessing that the "widgets" are stored in the portion of the app that got moved off to SD. I don't know how Move2SD works, but from what I understand, a portion (which I term a "loader") have to stay in app storage. I am guessing that if the widget and resources stay with the loader instead gotten moved off to the SD card the widgets will still work, but I don't know. Maybe some Google folks can clarify, but that'd be off topic.

What surprises me is that there is any difference. After all, Android is using ext file system and this has support for symbolic and hard links.
Using these, I don't see why a program would operate any different between "/" and "/sdcard/"

[Q] Moving apps to SD - No root!!

Sorry for my dummy question.....
I'm trying to install / move to the SD card some apps i've installed from market.
I used app2sd, 2 or 3 different developer, but no way to move......i've not rooted my device.....
A friend of mine said he is able to move apps directly from settins, application manager, but the only "button" i have are stop pregram and remove...
How can i do it???

Honeycomb does not include any form of apps2sd and theres no way to do it.
you have 16GB for apps as well, so theres no reason for apps2SD.

...ok...thank u very much!!!
i'm new in android world...when i was searching for the tablets many people says they will wait 32gb version, so i think maybe more memory is necessary...or not???
i saw that apps are very small...and i hope they will be always small.
No problem for video, or music, storage because i'm using an external HD...

Installing apps on mem card?

Just a quick one
I'm looking at getting the Sensation but as it only has 1gb are you able to install apps to the mem card instead?
Thanks guys

You can move apps to SD that allow it, using Google's official Apps2SD. For example, the Engadget app can not be moved to SD (well, technically it can, but if you do, the widget stops working).

yes you can.. im not a big widget user, so im fine..

Seriously, 1gb is more than enough. Including the factory installed apps, I have 103 apps installed in the app drawer - every app I consider worth having. I have many games including angry birds series. Available internal memory is still 681mb and none of my apps have been moved to sd!
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[Q] Swap, ext2/3/4(?) guide?

Ok first off hope everyone had a great holiday (or Christmas, as the case may be )
I have come to realize that alot of my issues may/may not have been caused by factors outside my phone or the rom I was attempting to install and use. I will give myself credit tho in that in all but one case I have managed to follow instructions to a "T" and have not experienced many/any of the issues that others have. Anyways, I got a new wireless router, and also a class 10 SD card. Some of my earlier connectivity issues are very rare now, and camera issues seem to be minimal also (assuming that the issue there was write speed to the card).
So I've really come to like a few of the roms, in particular one I'm liking right now VERY MUCH is MIUI 1.11.9. What a nicely put together package that is. I would really really like to stay with it.
However, it's huge. With that and two apps (Gmail and Facebook), I'm lucky if I have 14 mb left over. Obviously, this causes crashes and reboots left right and center. Camera usage is almost impossible. But, I'm willing to admit, the problem is likely my fault, because I have not done anything to manipulate swap/ext/etc on my sd card. I have the phone, and I have a formatted 16 gb class 10 sd card.
I've looked through 10 pages of threads and to be honest I'm finding it hard to know where to begin. I'm convinced, however, that if I can learn what swap ext/ext2/ext3 do, and how to create/use them..and whatever else, that MIUI and probably a few of the other roms will be amazing for me.
So is someone bored over the holidays here and can help either point me in the right direction of a Guide to do this, or maybe even write a bit about it for me? Assume I know nothing about how to create a swap, an ext, link2sd, any of it. I don't know how to use terminal emulator, modify or execute scripts...but I can learn!!
I realize that I'm asking for info that is probably obtainable by reading numerous other threads..but I can't find anything truly comphrensive..it's too bad threads couldn't be "stickied"...this subject seems crucial to me in order to get some of these roms to run ok. Many of them operate the same way: they take up 100 mb or so, and they don't allow for easy moving of apps to the SD card.
Anyways many thanks in advance if you can help. I'm sure there's a few others who could probably use a refresher in this also.

I'm learning alot about this and hope to update this thread with my own tips for how to do this in the coming days.
That is, if anyone is interested. If so, hit me with a msg.
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internal upgrade?
can someone tell me how to upgrade the internal memory because im getting very low in phone memory.. are there any solutions like using the 1GB for the internal memory of my 8GB card?

Well, you cant physically expand the memory but you can virtually via an extended primary partition and an app like link2sd.
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Hey acrobat69
I am pretty much the same boat as you. I have tried a bunch of ROMs, and I am still on 6.3 rc3 now.. went back and tweeked after learning some things and this is the least buggy for me at the moment.
I also do not use swap at the moment.. but this is also something that those in the know here on the Xt720 forums have debated.. how useful is it???
I would love to try swap.. or any other tips you might have.. so I at least will be listening.
I would like to get FM radio working on 6.3 rc3 too.. no luck so far.
I have found that when you overclock.. some speeds and Vsel work better in some roms.. or applications.
I saw one fellow who was running 800/48vsel - overall nice and great for battery usage.. but camera would not work at 48vsel.. would crash it .. running several highpower apps like wifi tether and gps at the same time would crash a low vsel set phone..
SO I know there are many factors that you can tune to make a rom work best for you.
James

When I get back to my PC, ill type something up on this for you as well as archer's other thread similar to this Q.

FYI, FM radio works since 6.3.0 RC4. Well at least as much as FM radio "works" on any of the non-stock-based ROMs at the moment-- volume control is difficult/problematic.
I think 6.3.6 is a good choice if you don't mind disabling the hardware button lights. And if it does bother you, I can make a patch that puts the lights back as the were in RC3 (but would disable notification leds).
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Ok so to answer a few of the above questions, I'll try to break it up into sections. Ext2/3/4, Swap and basic memory management.
Ext partitions: since our XT's are so low on memory, a fair while back some scripts were created to make it so that when you downloaded an app, it went into your ext partition and not to the internal. Remember that this was when we had 2.1 and Froyo was only a dream. As you know Froyo has the native App2sd function where you can move most of the app's data/function to your SD card via the .androidsecure folder on your card. Since this was not a function on 2.1 we needed a bypass. This was done by creating a EXT partition on your SDCard to bypass/hijack the installation process and "force" the apps to install to the SDCard rather than the meager internal memory. Since the grand old days, we have evolved that function from app2sd to app2ext where now the /cache can be moved over to the partition as well, in addition to apps like Link2sd with one-click UI to do it for you.
This is how to do it.
1 Make sure your ROM supports app2ext-it should be in that ROMs OP.
2 You need to use GParted or Minitool Partition Wizard to create your Ext2/3 partitions (do not create an Ext4 with either of these b/c they won't work correctly, most ROMs don't support it and you can convert it from 2/3 to 4 in MZ's open recovery).
3 You have a 16gb card and are asking what size should I make my partitions. They need to be in this order-FAT/EXT/SWAP from L->R. FAT is what it sounds like. It is your biggest sized one (and make it Primary/Bootable in your partition wizard). Your Ext is going to be up to you on the size. I usually recommend 350-450mb. Anything bigger is really wasted space. In fact, I chorgle to myself when I see people with 1gb Ext partitions b/c your average size app is usually about 7-12mb (with something like Angry Birds at a meaty 18mb). Remember that 1gb=1024mb. 12mb vs 1024mb-see what I am saying here?
4 So now you have your partitions set up. How do you activate it. You flash your ROM and let it settle down. Get ROOT and open a file manager and go to the ROOT. You will see a folder labeled SD-ext. Open this folder and make another folder called App (not Apps-no S) or if you are using Link2sd, you would put a folder called Link2sd (not LinkS2sd-again no S). Reboot and BAM!!!once it boots up, all your apps that you had will be in there and any new ones will be installed there saving you tons of internal space.
I'll cover Swap tomorrow b/c I am tired of typing for now but here is a thread on some unknown types of memory management that you can do on your own.
Sorry for the long post but I wanted to make it as general as possible so that it wasn't too technical.

Woodrube thank you very much for that, indeed very helpful and to the point. Ill hit you with a thanks when back on my laptop.
James: debates nothwithstanding, I can't see how its possible to install one of these Roms and actually use it...and any decent number of apps with stability, without using the extended partition. I have not had any success until I learned how to do this. Therefore, were absolutely not going to debate it, just do it!
To Woodrubes excellent instructions I will add these tips, learned from Mio7's advice and trial and error:
- do any partitioning before you install your new rom, and do it via a card reader inserted into your computer, not by plugging the phone into the computer via usb.
- do not make the second partition fat. In some threads people said it worked however it never works for me. Create the second partition as ext2 , then go to open recovery and convert it to ext3
- use root explorer to create the folder in sd-ext as Woodrube advised. Make sure root explorer is in R/W mode not R/O or you wont be allowed to
- install Link2sd first of any program. It's when you're running link2sd it seems that you can't create the link for certain applications check the market to see if to the downloadable version then uninstall the app from the phone and reinstall it yourself then when you go back into linksd youll be able to create a link. I'm still experimenting with just how much I can rip out of the system and then reinstall myself so as to be able to move over to the sd card. Btw if the rom app manager wont let you uninstall, use the uninstall function in link2sd. It works, even tho it says "Failed" when done.
See the signature at the bottom of my thread that should be all you need to know about whether not the advice in this thread is good because I'm posting from my phone and I'm using voice to text
Next up I'm going to try installing other roms like MIUI or 7.1 to see you what ones this can be used on. I will post my successes and failures in this thread
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With regard to milestone overclock settings I'm currently running 900 and 60 and have achieved general stability with no crashes during picture taking or video recording
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Mio: Nooo don't disable LED its great the way it is. Who needs those backlights anyways the keys are far enough away to not need a light to tell my thumbs where to go by now
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Unable to move app to ext sd card

ok so i looked in the forums and from the looks of it cm9 n cm10 and all other roms cant or wont make a work arounf for the inability to move app to the ext sd card i read that their someone making some kind of script but i am an idiot and cant understand but i do know how to read and follow instructions, but i dont see how one can apply these work around for the ext sd card fix unless their is a fix in the works and im jus being impaitent, i know people may think 4gb is alot but the fact this tablet can handle big gaming app it takes up alot of space fast. if have a memory card only for only multimedia, it kind of defeat android purpose for innovation when it was the only phone capable of putting apps on a ext sd card, any advise would be appreciated thanks..
here the link to some attempt to fix this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014

I'm rooted, and downloaded GLtoSD (GL2SD) from the market.
It's a 1-2-3 app. Install the app, download the contents of the game/app, load gl2sd, open the menu, click move app, then select the app you want to move, if it's able to be moved it can be. I love it.
I looked into other apps, and other solutions, and this one was the least complex of them all. Sorry I do not have a link handy, I been drinking a bit lol
Been in your boat though, and wanted to help. Give it a shot!

Try (directory bind) their is a thread for it in the forum
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