Is it possible to flash a radio that supports HSPA 850 band for the Sensation 4G? I haven't gotten the phone as yet but it has already been shipped, and I noticed it supports 900/1700/2100 HSPA but not 850 band.
Pretty sure that's not possible, you'll need the Telsus version of the Sensation if you want 850. You intend to use it on At&t you will need a Telsus version.
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So basically this is a hardware issue, theres no way of flashing a bell or telsus radio to a t-mobile sensation to get 850 band for 3g?
zcucurullo said:
So basically this is a hardware issue, theres no way of flashing a bell or telsus radio to a t-mobile sensation to get 850 band for 3g?
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Yes it is a hardware limitation. But check your sensation data sheet if it shows 1900/850, 2100/900 MHz, then it is a world phone. It can be used.
I had similar problem with inspire 4g which has 1900/850 Mhz radio. It is incompatible for the 3g band used in India. I sold it back.
Hi, dumb question here,
I was wondering, if i flash a Bell HTC Sensation ROM to a T-mobile HTC sensation and then unlock the phone:
1) Would the frequencies change so it could be used for AT&T 3G?
2) Or will it brick the phone?
Thank you guys!!!
I believe it will give you an error during flashing because cid don't match... But if you have supercid, i think it will be fine...
But I'm positive that it will not give you sim unlock.. you won't be able to use it for att unless you sim unlock...
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I have Super CID, is rooted, is simunlocked, I want to know about the 3G since they have different Bands.
The T-mobile band is different from AT&T, the Bell band is HSDPA 850 / 1900, T-mobile is HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. As you can see AT&T uses the same band for 3G as Bell (Canada).
If i use a Bell HTC Sensation for AT&T i can get 3G speeds, but with the T-mobile i only get Edge.
So the question still remains, by flashing a Bell ROM to a T-mobile sensation will i be able to get 3G on AT&T, or this is a hardware issue and nothing can be done?
zcucurullo said:
I have Super CID, is rooted, is simunlocked, I want to know about the 3G since they have different Bands.
The T-mobile band is different from AT&T, the Bell band is HSDPA 850 / 1900, T-mobile is HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. As you can see AT&T uses the same band for 3G as Bell (Canada).
If i use a Bell HTC Sensation for AT&T i can get 3G speeds, but with the T-mobile i only get Edge.
So the question still remains, by flashing a Bell ROM to a T-mobile sensation will i be able to get 3G on AT&T, or this is a hardware issue and nothing can be done?
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This is a hardware issue. The T-Mobile Sensation lacks those bands and will not get you 3G speeds on AT&T. Flashing a ROM will not change this. Go with the Bell Sensation if you want to use it on AT&T.
Thank you!!! Welcome back T-Mobile!!!
This is my first post so please dont slam me for it. I have been dealing with android phones since i had a G1 and im quite familiar with the superuser and Linux layout. I have rooted about 10-12 android devices in my time. Including unlocking and custom roms. I now have what i believe to be a HTC Inspire 4g and am having trouble defining if i have that or a Desire HD. Whats the difference in the two? Rooting, specs, pros and cons. Any response would be appreciated. Again this is my first post and i do appologize in advance if i posted in the wrong section.
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This is my first post so please dont slam me for it. I have been dealing with android phones since i had a G1 and im quite familiar with the superuser and Linux layout. I have rooted about 10-12 android devices in my time. Including unlocking and custom roms. I now have what i believe to be a HTC Inspire 4g and am having trouble defining if i have that or a Desire HD. Whats the difference in the two? Rooting, specs, pros and cons. Any response would be appreciated. Again this is my first post and i do appologize in advance if i posted in the wrong section.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_inspire_4g-3706.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
A little searching would have found this information very quickly as its been discussed here and all over the interwebs. The difference is a revision differnce in sound (which is why patches are needed between the roms. And the 3g radio. Easy way to tell, if you get 3g in north america you have an inspire, otherwise you need the desireHD for 3g in europe. They cannot be changed to work universally.
I believe you can go off the model number. Pull your battery door off and look at the model number, then do a search to see which one you have.
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Cool! Thanks!
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The Inspire 4G will have an ATT logo on the back of the phone. And don't forget that Telus in Canada released the Desire HD also. It looks exactly like the European Desire HD except for the small hole next to the camera LED. This is a second mic for noise reduction and is not present on the European version. Except for the ATT logo on the Inspire 4G and the HTC logo on the Telus Desire HD, they are physically the same phone. Both are A9192. The European Desire HD is A9191. Under the battery cover you may see this: Pd98140 is for the Telus Desire HD, Pd98120 is for the Inspire 4G, and no clue what the European Desire HD is.
There is difference in Network
HTC Inspire 4G
HSPA+ 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC Desire HD
Europe:
•HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
•GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Asia Pacific:
•HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
•GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC explorer
HSPA/WCDMA:
•Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Operating Frequency
Operating band
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
Galaxy Note
Band
GSM&EDGE Band850 / 900 / 1,800 / 1,900 MHz
3G Band850 / 900 / 1,900 / 2,100 MHz
Network&DataGPRS850 / 900 / 1,800 / 1,900 MHz
EDGE850 / 900 / 1,800 / 1,900 MHz
3GHSPA+ 21 Mbps
Telus Desire HD is same as Inspire 4G in previous post.
drkamaldeep said:
There is difference in Network
HTC Inspire 4G
HSPA+ 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC Desire HD
Europe:
•HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
•GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Asia Pacific:
•HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
•GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC explorer
HSPA/WCDMA:
•Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Operating Frequency
Operating band
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
Galaxy Note
Band
GSM&EDGE Band850 / 900 / 1,800 / 1,900 MHz
3G Band850 / 900 / 1,900 / 2,100 MHz
Network&DataGPRS850 / 900 / 1,800 / 1,900 MHz
EDGE850 / 900 / 1,800 / 1,900 MHz
3GHSPA+ 21 Mbps
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I am in HK and inspire 4G (ATT) can not pick up 3G data. Is there any way that I can make it to cover 2100MHz if DHD and inspire are the same hardware wise?
goldngreen said:
I am in HK and inspire 4G (ATT) can not pick up 3G data. Is there any way that I can make it to cover 2100MHz if DHD and inspire are the same hardware wise?
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omg you just quoted information that answers your own question. so read what you quote first. no they are not identical, im not gonna repeat what was already covered a mouse scroll up the page. ^^
They do not have 100% the same hardware. The radio is different.
Agoattamer said:
The Inspire 4G will have an ATT logo on the back of the phone. And don't forget that Telus in Canada released the Desire HD also. It looks exactly like the European Desire HD except for the small hole next to the camera LED. This is a second mic for noise reduction and is not present on the European version. Except for the ATT logo on the Inspire 4G and the HTC logo on the Telus Desire HD, they are physically the same phone. Both are A9192. The European Desire HD is A9191. Under the battery cover you may see this: Pd98140 is for the Telus Desire HD, Pd98120 is for the Inspire 4G, and no clue what the European Desire HD is.
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This is wrong. The Telus DHD is the same as the AT&T Inspire 4G and different than the Euro model. Telus uses the same HSPA frequencies AT&T does, and the Telus model also uses the newer audio setup that the Inspire does. The only differences I know of between the Telus, AT&T and Latin American models is branding and CID. In this case, model number does not tell the story.
goldngreen said:
I am in HK and inspire 4G (ATT) can not pick up 3G data. Is there any way that I can make it to cover 2100MHz if DHD and inspire are the same hardware wise?
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No.
Oh no I am not wrong. I have the Telus Desire HD. Physically the phone is the same as the Inspire 4G except for the logo. But from the outside appearance it does look exactly like the European DHD. Now what did I say that was so wrong? Everything I mentioned was 100% correct. You just basically rephrased what I posted.
it's a big difference, I can tell... If only I knew that when I bought my phone... I have Inspire 4G and I live in Serbia, so no 3g signal for me.... (
i tried for some time to get 3g working, thinking it's some kind of software problem, but no. obviously, US phones should stay in US, right?
inspire4gfreak said:
it's a big difference, I can tell... If only I knew that when I bought my phone... I have Inspire 4G and I live in Serbia, so no 3g signal for me.... (
i tried for some time to get 3g working, thinking it's some kind of software problem, but no. obviously, US phones should stay in US, right?
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Right...there is difference in hardware of euro and usa models of both inspire and dhd...and u can't port hardware
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I have a Telus Desire HD... should I be following the development forum for the Desire HD, for the Inspire 4G, or does it really matter?
rodenti said:
I have a Telus Desire HD... should I be following the development forum for the Desire HD, for the Inspire 4G, or does it really matter?
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It doesnt really matter in my opinion.
EDIT: Wait! Isnt Telus CDMA?
Yes and no. Telus still has a CDMA network, but their new network is HSPA.
My DHD is on their HSPA network.
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Then it doesn't matter.
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so if i flash a rom for the inspire(i have dhd) i wont get any 3g signal or is it hw related?
pitastrudl said:
so if i flash a rom for the inspire(i have dhd) i wont get any 3g signal or is it hw related?
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You will be fine you probably won't have sound at all though
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Does the bell Canada version of the sensation supports umts Wcdma 2100?
I've seen ppl that it says on the box, but i don't have a box and it doesn't say on bells website.
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My box says 850/1900/2100 ( Bell Canada).
felchi80 said:
Does the bell Canada version of the sensation supports umts Wcdma 2100?
I've seen ppl that it says on the box, but i don't have a box and it doesn't say on bells website.
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I assume your signature is correct, Z710e. If that's the case it won't work on Bell's 3G network which is the same as AT&T.
The European version (Z710e) box says:
HSPA/WCDMA 900/AWS/2100
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
Have a look at the following pages and you can check Network Compatibility:
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (for the Z710e)
gol_n_dal said:
I assume your signature is correct, Z710e. If that's the case it won't work on Bell's 3G network which is the same as AT&T.
The European version (Z710e) box says:
HSPA/WCDMA 900/AWS/2100
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
Have a look at the following pages and you can check Network Compatibility:
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (for the Z710e)
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This is so confusing.
I do have a BELL sensation. So it should work with bell's 3G network, and they even call it "sensation 4G". I was thinking that the bell version is actually the same as the EU version? If the box actually says 850/1900/2100... I'm running Hypernonsense ICS rom....
Phones are crazy expensive in Germany so i'm planing on buying the at&t version but would 3g work on Vodafone Germany? what about LTE? I read vodafone works in 2100 for 3g is it true? i have no info about the LTE frequencies
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
What about the simlock? is this phone unlockable just by software ala Desire HD?
Anyone?
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I would guess yes solely because AT&T has the best worldwide coverage of any US carrier and almost all their phones are world phones
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I'll look into it more tomorrow ad I'm at work working the overnight shift
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3g will work but lte won't.
You also need to purchase a sim unlock from a vendor since it will be locked to att.
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Where can we purchase "unlock code" for this phone?
cmfrtblynmb said:
Where can we purchase "unlock code" for this phone?
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Just google it.
There's quite a few places that advertise being able to do it. I have no idea if they are legit.