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I was wondering why I couldn't view the marketplace? I have it bookmarked so I could see it before. Thanks.
Do you have a connection to the internet?
Hey there,
New rules were implemented a little while ago as an antispam measure meaning there are now minimum requirements before "new" members can post there.
I believe there is currently a review of current market place rules not that i expect this restriction to be lifted any time soon.
Look around the forum a little more, contribute and you will then pass the minimum post and member time rules.
Cheers,
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Do you have a connection to the internet?
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Yes I posted here right
It says I don't have user access or something, but why not? I mean whats so wrong with viewing the marketplace so I can maybe buy someone's phone or compare the priced to craigs list?
I am sorry but I just think it's rather annoying to make forums where you got to ask just to be able to see certain "sub forums" or "directories" whatever.
I was just hoping it was a mistake but nobody seems to care.
Hey there,
Dont seem to care??? Give me a break.
The rules were made for yours and our protection. Make a few more posts and spend a little more time on the forum (you are new after all) and you will be able to sell on MP!
Is it really life and death that you MUST view MP now?
If so, i have one word for you.....................EBAY!
Matter closed.
Thanks...
I did have a nice long reply posted but it seems a waste of time.
I just want to say I don't like that system. I think I should be able to view the marketplace forum. Restricted posting would suck but be ok. But hey it's not my forum so I don't get to choose these things.
But I found it dumb since every other android/PPC/Phone forum I go to allows me to atleast read the buy/sell forum. I thought it was a mistake that I couldn't here since I am registered. But I guess not.
Enjoy your class system.
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Hey there,
New rules were implemented a little while ago as an antispam measure meaning there are now minimum requirements before "new" members can post there.
I believe there is currently a review of current market place rules not that i expect this restriction to be lifted any time soon.
Look around the forum a little more, contribute and you will then pass the minimum post and member time rules.
Cheers,
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Sorry I missed your post. Thanks I was wondering why I couldn't view something I could before.
I would contibute but thats not my style I am more or a lurker as I am not a expert on this phone stuff though I have used PPCs for years. I was just wanting to read a forum I had read before.
Thanks again.
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Sorry I missed your post. Thanks I was wondering why I couldn't view something I could before.
I would contibute but thats not my style I am more or a lurker as I am not a expert on this phone stuff though I have used PPCs for years. I was just wanting to read a forum I had read before.
Thanks again.
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Hi again,
I assume you read the marketplace rules right before making this thread? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3460150&postcount=1
timmymarsh said:
Hi again,
I assume you read the marketplace rules right before making this thread? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3460150&postcount=1
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I am sorry I didn't know those existed. But guess what I can't even read the marketplace rules . Here is what I get a page with this...
MasterColdSoul, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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Also my main thing was why have I lost the privilege to see the marketplace (I could see it before, now I can't). So I thought maybe it was a error.
I guess I shouldn't get upset about it. Sorry
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For what it is worth, you are about a 1/4th of the way their on posts. You could always attempt to answer questions in this forum until you reach 30 posts.
Yeah I imagine I will be posting more as I try to root the phone I am buying today. It's a MyTouch 1.2 so I will be buying a 2 gig microsd in a attempt on making a gold card to root it. I know I am going to be rereading the faq's on that about 10 times before attempting since if I mess it up I will have to buy another phone .
If there is any questions I can awnser I try to. I was trying to point a another new person to the Rom Bible in the MyTouch 3G Rom section when they asked where to download roms. I also had a link to the cyro rom forum which was linked in the rom bible as a possible good rom for him to use (since I hear about it being used by people on craigslist and charging for it). But when I did I couldn't make the post because it had links it said to "outside the forum". So I removed the cyro link and tried again. It still wouldn't even let me refer to the rom bible thread in a reply with a link to it. So at that point I figuared someone could awnser who had the ability to give him a link and not just say "look at the sticky thread "rom bible"".
I will just not let it get to me and try to contribute what I can until I am able to be more helpful and also enjoy more of this forum.
Post limit is currently 5, so you should now be able to use the Mp.
PLEASE READ THE RULES OF THE MP before posting, or your thread could be closed if you do not follow the guidlines.
Good luck.
Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...
Too many people are trying to take the easy road and post a new thread on a subject or idea, usually asking a question about something that has already been answered instead of doing a simple search!
I've been a member here for a couple years now and haven't needed to post very much because, if you take the time, the information is out there. 99.9% of the time, you aren't the first person to ask a question, have a problem, or hit a wall.
If you're having trouble doing something that was posted in a thread, POST YOUR QUESTION IN THAT THREAD!!
It seems as though there are a lot of newbies who are anxious to root their Inc, which is fine: If you pay attention, read the instructions and most of the thread before you begin, and follow them to a T . Every time I have a problem either rooting or installing a ROM or something else, I am the one who did something wrong.
Some of you are probably new to the Thread concept, which is also fine. It's very frustrating getting used to how they work, and learning the "right" way to do things- but trust me, it's worth it.
Posting a new thread is like standing on a chair in the middle of a crowded room and screaming out a question. If your in the wrong room (i.e. wrong section), people are going to be upset. If the question was already answered by another group (i.e. another forum), people are also going to be upset. If you aren't sure if you should start a new thread, you probably shouldn't.
Take the time and READ THE RULES! Here they are if you don't know where to find them:
New forum rules, please read!
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Member conduct.
2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result what is ‘ok’ to say in your part of the world may not be ok in someone else’s part of the world. Please think about who is reading what you write. Keep in mind that what you think of as acceptable use of language may not be acceptable to others. Conversely, while reading member posts, remember that word you find offensive may not be to the writer. Tolerance is a two way street.
2.2 Nudity: XDA is used by people of all ages, including minors. It's not acceptable to post nude/pornographic imagery, which includes exposure of the male or female genitalia or of female breasts.
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and/or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive, therefore none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
4. Use the English language.
We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
5. Post a message only once.
As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
7. Do not spam.
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post)
8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
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Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
11. Don’t post with the intent on selling something.
As an elaboration to rule number 7, don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. If you are the proprietor of a for-pay product or service, you may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or offer support on the product, but you may not make any posts with the primary intent of selling. This includes posting press releases, announcements, or links to downloads for trial software. The only exception to this is when you’re posting an exclusive release to XDA.
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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So instead of starting a new thread like "How do I.." or "Where do I" or "Why can't I..." Do a search of the threads, Google it, or even hop on over to PPC Geeks, Trust me- you'll find the answers you're looking for.
BTW - Thanks to Mikey1022 for moderating
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I wish people had to read this before they could post new threads. This forum seems to be worse than most of the other android forums on xda... not sure why.
Everyone who disagrees with this should check out the nexus one forum to get an idea of how lax things are here.
You better watch it. Some people may take offense to this. people also have to be aware when they do make a new thread that it is in the correct section. Too many questions are being posted in Development instead of General. Let's keep the sections on topic so people can find what they came looking for.
I agree, but I can see the other side as well.
The "Root process" thread is up to 108 pages. Sure, searching helps, but you are still poring over pages and pages of forums for hours. I kind of learned that this was the buy-in from my WinMo days, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.
One advantage to sticking to existing threads, however, is that people who are successful will probably post back to that thread, with any variations they used, whereas they are less likely to post to a new thread.
Calibob2001 said:
Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...
Too many people are trying to take the easy road and post a new thread on a subject or idea, usually asking a question about something that has already been answered instead of doing a simple search!
I've been a member here for a couple years now and haven't needed to post very much because, if you take the time, the information is out there. 99.9% of the time, you aren't the first person to ask a question, have a problem, or hit a wall.
If you're having trouble doing something that was posted in a thread, POST YOUR QUESTION IN THAT THREAD!!
It seems as though there are a lot of newbies who are anxious to root their Inc, which is fine: If you pay attention, read the instructions and most of the thread before you begin, and follow them to a T . Every time I have a problem either rooting or installing a ROM or something else, I am the one who did something wrong.
Some of you are probably new to the Thread concept, which is also fine. It's very frustrating getting used to how they work, and learning the "right" way to do things- but trust me, it's worth it.
Posting a new thread is like standing on a chair in the middle of a crowded room and screaming out a question. If your in the wrong room (i.e. wrong section), people are going to be upset. If the question was already answered by another group (i.e. another forum), people are also going to be upset. If you aren't sure if you should start a new thread, you probably shouldn't.
Take the time and READ THE RULES! Here they are if you don't know where to find them:
So instead of starting a new thread like "How do I.." or "Where do I" or "Why can't I..." Do a search of the threads, Google it, or even hop on over to PPC Geeks, Trust me- you'll find the answers you're looking for.
BTW - Thanks to Mikey1022 for moderating
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How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
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Hopefully this catches the eyes of those who need to read it most...
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You know they won't. The ones who post these repeated topics are the ones who freak out when they're lost, post a topic, and hit refresh all day instead of looking for the answer. The only ones who actually read this are the ones already pissed off about it.
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How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
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LOL, I didn't even read it. Just scrolled to through the comments
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I agree, but I can see the other side as well.
The "Root process" thread is up to 108 pages. Sure, searching helps, but you are still poring over pages and pages of forums for hours. I kind of learned that this was the buy-in from my WinMo days, but that doesn't make it less frustrating.
One advantage to sticking to existing threads, however, is that people who are successful will probably post back to that thread, with any variations they used, whereas they are less likely to post to a new thread.
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There are so many pages of topics because of the issue that is being described. There is a very handy function called "search" that, while not perfect, at least narrows results down for you. You can search within a Section, Topic or down to a single thread for key words.
Odds are, if you are on here you know how to navigate the web. If you can't perform a basic search in a topic or thread then please don't try to root your phone or follow any instructions to change, modify or "hack" anything.
As was brought out by [OP], if you WANT to do something that you think will be useful to you, read up on it. If you do run into an issue, search the key word of your issue. Entering "boot loop", "frozen", "Error message 123" will return something to help you find your answer. Odds are, you are not alone and, if you find you are alone, return to the thread where you were following instructions to do whatever it was you want to do and post a reply describing your issues. [OP] or others who are familiar with the process will help. Patience is a must.
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How much time did you spend writing this? No ones going to pay attention.
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Far too long than I care to admit - My first draft was rather angry and the overtone has calmed quite a bit...
And even if ONE newbie reads it and gleans even a whisper of insight as to how to operate the forums, then I have been 100% successful- even if 1% of those who read it take this to heart, at this point, that's still 2 fewer Threads the moderators have to close down...
MY Gripe
My biggest grip is those people: "What Music Player Are You Using" I don't really care and that's usually a personal preference. After joining the android section of XDA three months ago. It's astonishing to see how many DUMB post go up...It makes android users look idiotic? I'll admit I'm a noob but you don't see me posting stupid crap all over the place. This time I believe I've found the right section to express my opinion. I still can't get over how many crappy posts are out there. UGH
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Impatient PMers
What's really not acceptable and why I actually stopped helping people in the "Newbie Forums" is because when people wanted more information/answers, I would start to help and then soon after I would receive a PM asking for more help, which is wasteful because then instead of answering the question(s) for the site as a whole, only you are getting your "quick fix".
I am a noob.
I read it and it explains alot.
Thank you. Your site is very helpful and has saved me from problems in the past.
I have posted something once and i was really in a bind but no reply on it. I always search for my questions first and with alot of digging i can find the answers (Most of my answers came from you site by people that blow me away at how knowledgable they are) and most of the people who answer questions are very patient here, (even though there was a thread right above the question with the answer) thank you guys for doing great work.
Again i am very new to all of this and i couldnt be writing this from my rooted incredible with s off and cm 6.0.2 that is overclocked and i did some minor hacks via your forums. Thank you again.
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I read it.. nice post very Mich appreciated.. not a newb but sometimes feel that way when I'm stuck!
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I'm sorry to have been THAT guy.
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Thank You
I read threads on this site every single day but I am much more involved in Android Central (they are smaller and less cluttered IMO), however, I rarely post anything because if you just dig a little deep you WILL find you answer in here.... I just wanted to Say THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS... I FEEL THE SAME WAY EVERY FRIGGIN DAY.... in the time that it takes for someone to post a new thread and wait for a response, they could have already found the answer themselves. and to top it off, you can search the threads for specifics....
I THINK THAT YOUR OP SHOULD BE A STANDARD WARNING TO ANY AND EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO START A NEW THREAD
lol, you've been a member since 08 and you're just now figuring this out? No offense, but I doubt this will do any real damage. I constantly see these threads and it doesn't do anything cause people will ALWAYS keep posting stuff like this unless it's a hidden subforum. Its ****ty, and I don't mean to rain on your parade, but it's just how it works on forums.
one main problem i see, and im sure its why so many people post the same question 12 different times, is the search on the forums suck, you can type in a specific thing and even if you switch between thread or posts, it brings up EVERYTHING (example: i need to find "honeycomb launcher dock" do i type that in the search, it will bring up EVERY post or thread with ANY of those words in it, and 99.9% of the time its ROMs, no apps, .apk files or anything close to what you are looking for, now when ive looked for a ROM, yea like you said it works 99.9% of the time, with anything else its crap) .to me that was a terrible terrible mistake made by the person that set up the "search tool" on this site. and i think THAT is why there are soooo many "double" posts. the search tool needs to be set up the correct way.
Sonic Design said:
one main problem i see, and im sure its why so many people post the same question 12 different times, is the search on the forums suck, you can type in a specific thing and even if you switch between thread or posts, it brings up EVERYTHING (example: i need to find "honeycomb launcher dock" do i type that in the search, it will bring up EVERY post or thread with ANY of those words in it, and 99.9% of the time its ROMs, no apps, .apk files or anything close to what you are looking for, now when ive looked for a ROM, yea like you said it works 99.9% of the time, with anything else its crap) .to me that was a terrible terrible mistake made by the person that set up the "search tool" on this site. and i think THAT is why there are soooo many "double" posts. the search tool needs to be set up the correct way.
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You could enclose those words in quotes, but then it would have to match that phrase perfectly. I personally use google instead of any forum searches as none of them are really all that great (unless I'm searching a particular users' posts).
codybear said:
You could enclose those words in quotes, but then it would have to match that phrase perfectly. I personally use google instead of any forum searches as none of them are really all that great (unless I'm searching a particular users' posts).
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yea very true, i like to take what most GM's here say and change it
"google is your friend, the forum search is not"
A great resource to help with Google searches are at the google is your friend link in my signature. I usually direct people to that when they say they can't find anything using Google. Just thought I'd point it out so everyone can help spread this resource to those that are not Google savvy.
I have received an 'infraction' from an XDA Moderator know as "Fallen Spartan".
As the thread is now edited by him, you can't see my post that he described "spam". The thread although is here.
The story is, Fallen Spartan had just asked everyone on the forum to stay on topic. Somebody then put a GIF (he quotes it was a PNG, he is wrong) of Michal Jackson eating popcorn at the movies right after his "stay on topic" post. I then replied "Yes, that's really staying on topic, thanks" and I received this notice.
Our regular Atrix forum mod is Mr. Clown. He has been a good mod so far and does what is necessary. Now we have this new guy, Fallen Spartan...
I want to know how to report him, as I believe he is abusing his XDA responsibility.
If you think I'm crazy, and he did the right thing, please say that also.
Thank you.
~BM~
PS: Here is the message I received from Fallen Spartan
Fallen Spartan said:
Dear BravoMotorola,
You have received an infraction at xda-developers.
Reason: Single Post or Low Level Spamming
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Going off topic when I asked everyone to stay on topic
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
All the best,
xda-developers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=XDA-Developers:Administrators
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#abuse
maybe those might help?
I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
I have looked at that thread, and it does appear to have members consistently taking the thread off topic.
That is a DEVELOPMENT thread, and I see a fair bit of persistent off topic. The thread was derailed persistently, and it's a very important thread for users of the Atrix. there were numerous requests by members to keep it clean of junk, and this didn't happen.
The correct course of action here is to not reply or continue the off-topic, and hit the report button at the top right of the posts.
Also, you will find Fallen Spartan is in fact a member of the MC, and thus more than capable of dealing with cases such as this.
An infraction is a warning or "reminder" not to do something again, and does not cause any restrictions or other consequences.
pulser_g2 said:
I have looked at that thread, and it does appear to have members consistently taking the thread off topic.
That is a DEVELOPMENT thread, and I see a fair bit of persistent off topic. The thread was derailed persistently, and it's a very important thread for users of the Atrix. there were numerous requests by members to keep it clean of junk, and this didn't happen.
The correct course of action here is to not reply or continue the off-topic, and hit the report button at the top right of the posts.
Also, you will find Fallen Spartan is in fact a member of the MC, and thus more than capable of dealing with cases such as this.
An infraction is a warning or "reminder" not to do something again, and does not cause any restrictions or other consequences.
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here we are for to learn or enjoy with our devices, some times its funny, somtimes it´s serious, but i think here we aren´t for to discuss badly or to give the orders gifs to joke of some comments...
These situations must be cut and the MODERATOR is the manager of it, he chooses how to finish it
sohanlon07 said:
I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
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That sounds a bit too negative. I would like to add that this forum and site is fantastic. I have learned more about Android in a few weeks on this site than I would have trawling through manuals and websites. The work people put in to this site is commendable and that includes the moderators. Where else would you get such passion, innovation and good advice? So keep up the good work all and apologies if my comment sounded too negative.
The Mod asked people to stay ontopic. So you responded to an offtopic post with another offtopic post. You get told not to do this through an infraction and you whine about it? You sound like a 5 year old crying because someone else got some chocolate and your parents wont buy you some too. If you have a complaint go through the correct channels and try not to sound so self entitled. Live, Learn and move on.
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So keep up the good work all and apologies if my comment sounded too negative.
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under my opinion, your comment don´t sounds negative, and it´s the true... i think there isn´t any development forum better than XDA for develop or learn...
i´m spanish user, i talk a little bit english languaje and soo poor lol... and there are a lot of forums in spanish web but not so complete as this one, i believe that it does not cost anything to take care of this web and to follow the procedure of use..
Yes, you are correct, it was a gif file, not a jng. My mistake, but that had no relevance on me giving you an infraction
I understand your feelings about receiving an infraction and I know Mr Clown may let things slide, but you have to understand we received numerous complaints about that particular thread going off topic so I felt we (the mod team) needed to intervene. I cleaned the thread and left a gentle reminder for all to please abide by forum rules and keep thread on topic. Now the following 3-4 posts where the exact opposite of what I was hoping for. Yes, the first was in good nature, but it just encouraged everyone to do the exact opposite of what I said. No actions go without consequences and if I let those posts slide with no punishment other members would see this and also act inappropriately. Instead of you carrying on off topic and posting your post, all you had to do was report the post above you. But in turn your post also encouraged others to post off topic. I hope you understand my reasons. I do not go out actively dishing out infractions, but I will when I see it necessary. You only received a 3 point infraction which is not a permanent record against you, if is just a gentle reminder to abide by our forum rules and it will not be held against you if any further instances arose.
As for you reporting me, please do if you feel you have been harshly punished. Contact site admin mikechannon and he will look into my behaviour.
All mods have to abide by the same rules as you and everyone else.
Best regards
Rick
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The thread which I cleaned had over 15 pages of posts. After I cleaned it this number was reduced by half.....hence why we received so many complaints about thread in question and why I took action. Normally I would leave it to the FSM for that forum (Mr Clown), but unfortunately he wasn't online at the time
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I have noticed as a new user that some moderators appear to take their jobs a little bit too seriously on here. Little bit of power drives them mad!! Its crazy so it is.
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I'm sorry you feel this way. Let me know of any examples and I will investigate them
Rick
BravoMotorola said:
I have received an 'infraction' from an XDA Moderator know as "Fallen Spartan".
As the thread is now edited by him, you can't see my post that he described "spam". The thread although is here.
The story is, Fallen Spartan had just asked everyone on the forum to stay on topic. Somebody then put a GIF (he quotes it was a PNG, he is wrong) of Michal Jackson eating popcorn at the movies right after his "stay on topic" post. I then replied "Yes, that's really staying on topic, thanks" and I received this notice.
Our regular Atrix forum mod is Mr. Clown. He has been a good mod so far and does what is necessary. Now we have this new guy, Fallen Spartan...
I want to know how to report him, as I believe he is abusing his XDA responsibility.
If you think I'm crazy, and he did the right thing, please say that also.
Thank you.
~BM~
PS: Here is the message I received from Fallen Spartan
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As one of the site's administrators, I am supposed to have some sort of decorum in the way I approach people, but this "new guy" as you call him has been part of the moderating team in this site for a very long time. As some others said earlier in this thread, infractions are just a reminder that you are doing something that is against the rules. Not cooperating with moderators is against the rules. In this particular case, Rick did nothing more than to clean a development thread from clutter posts and specifically asked that posts on that thread be relevant to the conversation taking place. You decided to reply to an OT post with another OT post (I honestly don't care if it was a png, a gif, a jpeg, or whatever format of image you used, so please don't hang on to trivial things in the matter). You went ahead and added a post that was not related to the thread's main subject, effectively going against a direct request from a moderator. It is the equivalent of being pulled over by a cop for speeding and left off with a warning, and the first thing you do the moment you turn on your car is to go from 0-100 mph in 10 sec right in front of the cop. What did you think was gonna happen?
At this point in time, I will consider this matter closed. If you come across a real injustice by a moderator, please feel free to contact either mikechannon or me.
Thanks.
These forums would be unbearable and unusable without the mods and the good work they do. All i see are kids with entitlement issues who need to learn how to moderate themselves better.
egzthunder1 said:
As one of the site's administrators, I am supposed to have some sort of decorum in the way I approach people, but this "new guy" as you call him has been part of the moderating team in this site for a very long time. As some others said earlier in this thread, infractions are just a reminder that you are doing something that is against the rules. Not cooperating with moderators is against the rules. In this particular case, Rick did nothing more than to clean a development thread from clutter posts and specifically asked that posts on that thread be relevant to the conversation taking place. You decided to reply to an OT post with another OT post (I honestly don't care if it was a png, a gif, a jpeg, or whatever format of image you used, so please don't hang on to trivial things in the matter). You went ahead and added a post that was not related to the thread's main subject, effectively going against a direct request from a moderator. It is the equivalent of being pulled over by a cop for speeding and left off with a warning, and the first thing you do the moment you turn on your car is to go from 0-100 mph in 10 sec right in front of the cop. What did you think was gonna happen?
At this point in time, I will consider this matter closed. If you come across a real injustice by a moderator, please feel free to contact either mikechannon or me.
Thanks.
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As I say "new guy" I mean "new guy" to the Atrix sub forums specifically. I see some people here saying what he did was his choice and it is fine that he did it, and a couple that think it was too much or thinks that a lot of the forum moderators are being more strict...
I know that this infraction is no big deal at all, I've known that all along. Regardless, I fell as I am being yelled at. And no matter a "big deal" or just a "warning"...I don't think it was at all necessary.
It doesn't seem to myself that I am making a big deal, but maybe I am and I just don't realize it. I won't report anyone. I don't want to try to over power anyone because I can't. And even if I could, now that I've calmed, I wouldn't. I don't want to make anyone mad, and I don't want to waste my time.
Maybe I just need to realize some moderators are more strict than others, so I should follow the rules closely at all times.
Thank you for your post, and please do close this thread.
~BM~
Thread closed by OP request
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ok i was just trying to reply to a post from on the developers forum. but apparently because i'm a new user i have to have 10 posts somewhere else before i can post there.
so i started looking around the threads in general and questions and answers for a thread where i could possibly add some value to the debate when i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502&page=283
The last comment says it all. Maybe it's the fault of the noobs for posting stupid things on a thread to get their post count up. Or maybe it's the administrators fault for imposing a seemingly arbitrary restriction on new users. Who knows. All I can say is that because I'm not going to post useless me too comments on other threads by the time my meaningful post count reaches 10, the original developer thread I wanted to comment on will have moved on.
It seems like a complete waste of time to me.
Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
Ok that's all fair enough in principle but it's just not reality. People are not following those rules. Take this for example:
"Basically, if you did not create "it", then doesn't belong in development."
And then look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258543&page=540
540 pages of comments. So called experienced users are doing this. And if i want to join in the debate what i am supposed to do?
No it is not waste off time
I was "forced" to find and help 3 persons in general discusion that noone "real" developer want to loose time on helping them. I felt very happy with this. ...........
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Yea i count one more post xD
I suppose I have to answer my own question. Basically I have to drag this thread out til my post count reaches 10 at which point I will have the ability to break the rules and comment on stuff I didn't create in the dev threads with all the other 'experts'.
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I suppose I have to answer my own question. Basically I have to drag this thread out til my post count reaches 10 at which point I will have the ability to break the rules and comment on stuff I didn't create in the dev threads with all the other 'experts'.
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The rules don't say you can't comment if you didn't make it. You should not create threads in dev forums unless its about something you created.
That's the difference that seems to be overlooked by most people.
I'm not talking about creating a new thread though. Someone else has created one and it now has 540+ pages of comments from people qualified to comment because they have previously made 10 posts somewhere else.
Some of it is intelligent discussion. Some of it is not. All of it is against the spirit of the rules apparently. But if that is where the discussion is taking place why prevent someone from contributing potentially interesting content?
Exceptions are a minority. And like every other government, "we don't care".
$1 gets you a reply
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I was "forced" to find and help 3 persons in general discusion that noone "real" developer want to loose time on helping them. I felt very happy with this. ...........
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This person is correct
You can look in the Q&A forums and maybe help someone in there. It's really not difficult to make 10 useful posts.
I think the point is you either enforce 10 posts before you can create a developer thread. A thread which is readonly for everyone but the Creator. Or else you have a free for all. But the way it works now is just a pointless waste of time.
(Half way there)
Hello,
Can somebody explain why there is a 10 posts policy? I am new in this forum, before I used it a lot for reading and download useful software.
Now I want to install FlashTool Xperia Driver Pack (v1.5) available by this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635830, but something goes wrong. I would like to ask in that thread, but I cannot, because I do not have 10 posts yet. Is there any options to ask this question without making 10 posts?
P.S. It is really strange policy, because many people will not ask question, will not get help and will tell to their friends that xda-developers is useless. Also from site promotion (SEO) point of view it is better to have more posts and etc, but this rule is really limits it.
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Hello,
Can somebody explain why there is a 10 posts policy? I am new in this forum, before I used it a lot for reading and download useful software.
Now I want to install FlashTool Xperia Driver Pack (v1.5) available by this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635830, but something goes wrong. I would like to ask in that thread, but I cannot, because I do not have 10 posts yet. Is there any options to ask this question without making 10 posts?
P.S. It is really strange policy, because many people will not ask question, will not get help and will tell to their friends that xda-developers is useless. Also from site promotion (SEO) point of view it is better to have more posts and etc, but this rule is really limits it.
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It is so new users don't break rules. New users probably will not know what to do and they might post something in the wrong section or something that's not allowed.
For now go to another thread and post some posts there, but don't post just to get 10 posts. Whew, that was 4 posts in just one sentence. :sly:
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It is so new users don't break rules. New users probably will not know what to do and they might post something in the wrong section or something that's not allowed.
For now go to another thread and post some posts there, but don't post just to get 10 posts. Whew, that was 4 posts in just one sentence. :sly:
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Anyway there is moderation and moderators can move or delete or block wrong posts. Otherwise this forum is not a helpful place for people how really need help, It is place for people how already know a lot, but they want to discuss deep details.
Actually the 10 posts policy to stop spamming on this forum. You can find a lot of spammer all over the online forums. They just try to create backlink. The 10 posts policy prevent this kind of spamming on this forum.