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hey there,
bought my gf a desire s to christmas. i, as a sensation user at the moment am very comfortable with development. flashing, adb, fastboot and things like that are working flawless.
as i don't have so much time to read atm, i have some questions concerning the way to set the desire s up. it was shipped with 1.47 rom, t-mobile branded, sense 2.1, android 2.3.1 and hboot 0.98.0002
i want to flash this rom: endymion sense v3.1 (android 2.3.5, sense 3.5)
i already achieved s-off with revolutionary, hboot is now 6.98.1002 with radio 3805.06.02.03_M. 4ext recovery 2.2.7RC5 is installed as well.
now i saw, that there is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe availble. i also read in the forum, that this ota brings some parts for firmware, which are not flashed with a custom rom.
so would you recommend to flash this ruu first? wouldn't i lose s-off then? would i be abled to achieve s-off again after flashing this? also, for my sensation i would have to supercid first - i didn't read about this here in the forums.
what i would want to do:
1. flash RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
2. run revolutionary again
3. flash custom recovery
4. flash endymion v3.1
would it be possible this way? or would you recommend any other way to me? i want to have all firmware parts as up to date as possible before i flash the custom rom.
smint86 said:
hey there,
bought my gf a desire s to christmas. i, as a sensation user at the moment am very comfortable with development. flashing, adb, fastboot and things like that are working flawless.
as i don't have so much time to read atm, i have some questions concerning the way to set the desire s up. it was shipped with 1.47 rom, t-mobile branded, sense 2.1, android 2.3.1 and hboot 0.98.0002
i want to flash this rom: endymion sense v3.1 (android 2.3.5, sense 3.5)
i already achieved s-off with revolutionary, hboot is now 6.98.1002 with radio 3805.06.02.03_M. 4ext recovery 2.2.7RC5 is installed as well.
now i saw, that there is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe availble. i also read in the forum, that this ota brings some parts for firmware, which are not flashed with a custom rom.
so would you recommend to flash this ruu first? wouldn't i lose s-off then? would i be abled to achieve s-off again after flashing this? also, for my sensation i would have to supercid first - i didn't read about this here in the forums.
what i would want to do:
1. flash RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
2. run revolutionary again
3. flash custom recovery
4. flash endymion v3.1
would it be possible this way? or would you recommend any other way to me? i want to have all firmware parts as up to date as possible before i flash the custom rom.
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Cause you are already s-off I would say it's senseless to use the ruu first, because it would put you back to s-on like you suggested, but only if the revolutionary bootloader doesn't make problems.
There are many reports of problems with it and I would say you should replace it with the 2.00.2002 engineer bootloader.
before just flash a custom recovery (I would recommend 4ext touch) and if your done with the bootloader flash the ROM of your choice.
To get bootloader, recovery,... just look at the index thread at the development section, it's all in there.
The last step to achieve a full upgraded phone would be to update the radio to the latest version, this you will also find at the index thread.
Happy modding
Oh and welcome, sry^^
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
Tectas said:
There are many reports of problems with it and I would say you should replace it with the 2.00.2002 engineer bootloader.
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is there a guide you are referring to? i already got 4ext recovery installed, but i don't find any post concerning 2.00.2002 bootloader. if i flash this one i would stay s-off? and it would bring me all parts which i would be missing without 2.10.401.8 RUU?
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now i found this one, you are referring to that?
Tectas said:
The last step to achieve a full upgraded phone would be to update the radio to the latest version, this you will also find at the index thread.
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i guess you are referring to this? 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04 with my sensation i would also have to flash a matching ril, isn't it recommended with desire s?
smint86 said:
is there a guide you are referring to? i already got 4ext recovery installed, but i don't find any post concerning 2.00.2002 bootloader. if i flash this one i would stay s-off? and it would bring me all parts which i would be missing without 2.10.401.8 RUU?
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now i found this one, you are referring to that?
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Yes this guide is to "downgrade" (in fact it's an upgrade, even if the version number is lower).
Yes you would stay s-off.
No it not brings you all what is missing, just a part of it, the rest you get with flashing the radio and the rom.
smint86 said:
i guess you are referring to this? 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04 with my sensation i would also have to flash a matching ril, isn't it recommended with desire s?
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It's not really needed, you can do it if it's in the zip (or better said if it's there it's done at the flashing procedure), but you're also good to go without it.
Hi,
I have a Desire S:
- hboot 2.00.0002
- 2.3.5
- S-ON
What is the best and safe way to S-OFF and root this device?
Thanks
I dont understand, its possible root and install a custom ROM without S-OFF?
Just htcdev to unlock your phone
no way to s-off
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
s-on
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
swiftfraser said:
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
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Y y yes, although you can only flash them via fastboot with HTCdev unlock.
foX2delta said:
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
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I am a little scared to downgrade, are many steps....
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22271797&postcount=11
hboot 2.00.0002 will be supported by Revolutionary? If it will be i prefer wait instead of do something wrong and damage my beauty.
@Fredericosilva
It may be supported down the line..... Not a guarantee though.
Many steps..... not really.... Its up to you at the end of the day.
If you don't want to downgrade your hboot u can try this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
It'll leave your phone s-on, but you'll be root and you'll be able to flash roms.
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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Your DS was hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?
Non Branded?
I guess I will try it when I have time...
Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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it is possible to flash a custom rom, look at this tutorial i've posted before, you only have to do it via fastboot. I'm not sure about the kernel thing.
Fredericosilva said:
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
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you can flash custom roms, but you'll have to do it via fastboot. So it takes a bit more time. i'm not sure about other differences
I've looked all over the forums, but i can't find an answer, could someone tell me if i can root my phone using SuperOneClick?
Here's what it says when i boot into bootloader:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 2.00.2002 (PG8810000)
RADIO - 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I would like to install cyanogen mod, and i'm on t-mobile uk if that helps
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
oddoneout said:
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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It was originally like that, haven't done anything to it
Your HBOOT says that your phone is S-OFF, which means you have full access to it.
On the other hand, not knowing your OS version, I'm not sure you can root using SuperOneClick - since it only works for Gingerbread.
Since you have S-OFF, just go and find "root for S-OFF users" thread in Development and do what is written there.
Download a rooted custom rom (usually a custom rom is rooted) then flash via recovery. You'll have your DS rooted.
Sent from my Desire S
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
yaonos said:
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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4EXT is a Recovery - has nothing to do with being rooted or not rooted
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Judging by your answer, I strongly advise you to stay away from rooting your phone, and reading a lot instead.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC. It may not be necessary if a custom recovery has already been flashed to your phone. Check your recovery before proceeding to flash a custom one.
Once you have a custom recovery installed, your can flash SuperSu from this recovery to your ROM. You'll then have rooted your current ROM and will be able to make backups before trying to flash alternate ROMs. At minimum you should make a nandroid backup from the recovery ; it will allow you to come back to your current ROM in case your not satisfied with the alternate ROMs.
But take your time and read the stickies in order to be sure you understand what you are doing before proceeding further.
ben_pyett said:
One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Yes, i did buy my device new
alpha192 said:
Yes, i did buy my device new
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New device and already S-OFF?
Sent from my HTC Desire S
miwanr said:
New device and already S-OFF?
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Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
yaonos said:
Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC.
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Not necessarily at all. Regular bootloaders, even when S-OFF, don't allow fastboot commands. If you try executing it on phone that was S-OFF-ed with XTC-Clip, for example, it'll fail.
For that the bootloader has to be re-engineered (or engineering bootloader flashed).
why exactly do u want to root your phone? do u want to flash a custom rom or do u want root access for the heck of it?
if u want to flash a custom rom then i suggest you go through this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850574
it has links to some other threads.. finally please do make a backup of your original rom in case u dont like the custom rom
SimonTS said:
Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
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In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
yaonos said:
In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
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I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
SimonTS said:
I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
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I got my phone new from T-mobile and the only thing i've done to my phone software wise would be upgrading sense to 3.0 which was via the ota.
i thing best for u is to unlock ur bootloader flash r ecovery and superuser , flash a custom rom and follow this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 good luck
Hi! I'm a newcommer to Android world . I really like the idea of being able to get my phone customized but the more I read the more difficult it gets. Right now I'm trying to process some data and i would really like some help .
1. The S-Off
As far as I have got the s-on is some kind of security system protecting system partitions from getting modified/ersed. But i have found guides here that claim that I can get root acces without getting s-off my phone. But the root is acces to the system files, right? So how does it work? To do flashing i have to have root or s-off?
2. The HBOOT
So the HBOOT is a bootloader, it gets phone up when I push the button. Bu it is also the partition on the NAND. It gets me confused as some say that bootloader is like a BIOS. But as far as I understand BIOS it can be manipulating crucial PC settings like for example the CPU clocks. But I read that in the Android we have kernel for that. Is this right?
3. Mu current phone state
After some reading I tried to get some information about my phone. So when I got to the HBOOT (?) it says:
***LOCKED***
SAGA PVT SHIPS S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.19.00.110
eMMC-boot
What bothers me is how from there i can get to flashing some Custom Roms? Currently I'm using official ICS becaouse I needed fully functioning phone for a while and didn't want to get it bricked. But right now I'm interested in change but when I think about it I'm getting confused. I would like to test Flinny's Cyanogen but I'm not sure can it be flashed on my hboot? Do i have to change hboot like it is in guide in here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
or just get my phone rooted on my HBOOT following the guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
?
Ok **roll up sleeves **
You need to decide what you want.
You can just unlock your bootloader via HTC Dev and still be S-ON and flash custom ROM's.
This is the easy process. The disadvantages are that you will loose warranty and will need to flash the kernel separately using a PC and some commands every time you flash a ROM.
On the other hand you can downgrade your HBOOT to 0.98 and then proceed to use revolutionary to gain S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. With this method you can still revert to stock in case you need to send the phone for warranty. You also don't need any additional steps to flash the kernel. It will be flashed along with the ROM.
In either case, after HTC dev unlock or downgrade and S-OFF you will need to flash a custom recovery which will enable you to take full nandroid backups and flash ROM'S.
Choice is yours
Read about both the methods and decide. Everything can be found in the index.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
VnnAmed said:
Currently I'm using official ICS becaouse I needed fully functioning phone for a while and didn't want to get it bricked.
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If you are already using official ics i dont think u can go for the s-off method without unlocking first.
Ohh yes, forgot about that.
If you are on ICS, the only option for you now is HTC Dev unlock.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
rain987 said:
If you are already using official ics i dont think u can go for the s-off method without unlocking first.
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Yes, it seems that way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 Guide here that is showing the proces of getting older HBOOT includes HTC-Dev unlocking. The bigger problem is that it includes many really advanced steps like creating gold cards and using Android Windows Tools which i guess are not the same thing as ADB(?) and there are no files becaouse
I will not supply the necessary files that is needed, you MUST know how to use SEARCH. I also suggest to give THANKS to those who originally made/uploaded the files.
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wchich is overwhelming. The problem is that I don't want to get my phone bricked. My friend has Galaxy SII and is just flashing customs through Odin. I guess there isn't such thing for Desire S? So should i go this way? And if i follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100 i will have custom rom but stock kernel? I have read that some Roms need specefic kernel otherwise some features or whole ROMs doesn't work which is just sad. And the only guide i have found of flashing kernel while S-On is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1794867 but the guy there has different phone and different HBOOT so i guess it doesn't hel me...
You need to read more. With your current level of understanding I suggest you put your rooting plans aside and keep reading.
Hello
A friend of mine gave me his Inspire 4G because he was getting sick of Istock GB and I told him I could help. I have experience with Custom roms and such, I have a Huawei Y300 that runs a custom cyanogenmod rom called Expert, I'm not a total noob but this is my first time dealing with an HTC and having to S-OFF and those things. Could you please answer me this questions?
1) It's running Stock Gingerbread rom, so it is EXTREMELY outdated. Do I need to update to ICS to be S-OFF and be able to install custom roms? I look forward to installing Fallen, which is based on 4.3 (CM 10.2)
2) Will It lose the network connectivity? In my huawei you can flash and go up and down in versions however you like. But this HTC has RUUs, radios and all those things. Which should I flash? As I said, currently running stock gingerbread and it is unlocked
Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
Loo2495 said:
1) It's running Stock Gingerbread rom, so it is EXTREMELY outdated. Do I need to update to ICS to be S-OFF and be able to install custom roms? I look forward to installing Fallen, which is based on 4.3 (CM 10.2)
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It's the other way around. You'd need to either S-Off or unlock the bootloader to install ICS. There's no stock ICS for the DHD. Your options are AAHK2 (for S-Off) and the Easy Ace Root Tool (for bootloader unlock). Do a little research on those two tools (I've never used either personally), as well as on the difference between S-Off and bootloader unlock, and choose which one you want to use.
Loo2495 said:
2) Will It lose the network connectivity? In my huawei you can flash and go up and down in versions however you like. But this HTC has RUUs, radios and all those things. Which should I flash? As I said, currently running stock gingerbread and it is unlocked
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RUUs install stock, so if you're trying to get ICS and above you don't want those. If you're planning to install ICS or above, install the latest radio.
bananagranola said:
It's the other way around. You'd need to either S-Off or unlock the bootloader to install ICS. There's no stock ICS for the DHD. Your options are AAHK2 (for S-Off) and the Easy Ace Root Tool (for bootloader unlock). Do a little research on those two tools (I've never used either personally), as well as on the difference between S-Off and bootloader unlock, and choose which one you want to use.
RUUs install stock, so if you're trying to get ICS and above you don't want those. If you're planning to install ICS or above, install the latest radio.
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Thanks for your help
I thought there was an ICS update available for this device, but I was wrong. Will try those tools and report my results later. I appreciate the help