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Amazon's now entering the tablet market with it's kindle, but this is no ordinary kindle. The Kindle Tab, has a 7 inch Capacitive color display and runs Android.
The report has leaked at TechCrunch, by MB Siegler and apparently he was not allowed to leak any pictures of the tab. But he has mentioned that the form factor of the kindle tab is much like the Blackberry PlayBook, in size and shape.
The Kindle Tablet has a back-lit colored display unlike the e-ink in the kindle currently we have, he also added that the multi-touch is more of two finger touch unlike the iPad ten finger touch.
The Android user interface Kindle Tab uses is unlike we have ever seen, it is a mix of Black & Orange and has a iTunes cover flow like interface. The favorite apps can be pinned on to desktop and the top bar shows "YOUR NAME's Kindle". To add up to the amazing UI the notifications appear in a bright orange colored tab, which looks very soothing.
There are no physical buttons on the whole tablet, but the one thing which is going to take this Android Tablet the long way is its ability to access the Amazon content store in one touch, which includes the Amazon App Store, Amazon Cloud Player, and obviously the Amazon Book Store.
The only drawback is that the tablet would not be receiving any Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich, it will run on its native Android 2.2 Froyo with Amazons custom UI.
Talking on the hardware specs, the Kindle Tab (7-inch) runs on a single core processor and has a 6GB on-board storage. It shall be available in both Wifi only and Wifi + 3G versions from the various carriers. It has a battery backup of about 10hrs, which is pretty good compared to other tablets.
The outer body is much like the Blacknerry PlayBook with its Black rubbery back, and its top positioned speakers.
The Kindle tablet is designed for dedicated book readers who love their Kindle, but need a colored version with more power, Android and NO CAMERA.
The Amazons Kindle Tab 7-inch should be hitting the market by November 2011 for 250$ only
Source GizMee
The article is a pure rip-off of techcrunch's original article by MG Siegler.
The picture is a COMPLETE fake (used by Gizmee to attract visitors), nothing else.
This is not an iPad killer at all! It's a low-end android based ebook by Amazon. Please stop comparing it with higher end tablets.
Next time, use the correct source.
Edit: Noticed your username, it all makes sense now. Please stop this unfair practice. Come again with original and rather more creative articles.
sygeek said:
The article is a pure rip-off of techcrunch's original article by MG Siegler.
The picture is a COMPLETE fake (used by Gizmee to attract visitors), nothing else.
This is not an iPad killer at all! It's a low-end android based ebook by Amazon. Please stop comparing it with higher end tablets.
Next time, use the correct source.
Edit: Noticed your username, it all makes sense now. Please stop this unfair practice. Come again with original and rather more creative articles.
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Don't hold back....... tell him how you Really feel......... Also, I agree...
Android is just no good for tablets.
I don't understand this "ipad" or "iphone" killer phrase.
Apple has been around for a long time, they're not going anywhere.
Even with Android completely owning the marketshare, Apple is just fine where they're at.
No single Tablet/Phone/OS is going to "kill" Apple.
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Android is just no good for tablets.
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Why are you on an Android forum?
Seriously, you have NOTHING positive to say.
Have you EVER used Honeycomb?
Find something better to do with your time.
Android scores
Android devices have more functions than Apple
Why are you on an Android forum?
Seriously, you have NOTHING positive to say.
Have you EVER used Honeycomb?
Find something better to do with your time.[/QUOTE]
I think he meant Froyo, he can't possibly be talking about HC
Sorry but this is not an Android forum - it's for general xda stuff that does not have a dedicated section.
Just add him to your ignore list if he bothers you so much.
Tone_ said:
Sorry but this is not an Android forum - it's for general xda stuff that does not have a dedicated section.
Just add him to your ignore list if he bothers you so much.
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Its still a mainly android community.
Every post he makes is anti Android...so why post in an android community?
mattykinsx said:
Its still a mainly android community.
Every post he makes is anti Android...so why post in an android community?
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Because he's a troll.
mattykinsx said:
Its still a mainly android community.
Every post he makes is anti Android...so why post in an android community?
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Lots of WinMo/Windows Phone users here. XDA's roots are from WinMo anyway.
As for his comments - I agree. Android is no good for tablets. Not necessarily because it's bad but because it's not the best. Tablets are right now novelty third choice devices behind smart phones and desktop/laptop computers. You don't need one, and you'll only think about getting one after having the first two. They're pretty much impulse buys for early adopters, and I don't think anyone outside of the Android diehards or really cheap-o's are going to go for the Android tablets. Honeycomb is half baked and the apps just aren't there. It's basically your Android phone blown up that includes the same app ecosystem that isn't anywhere near as good as iOS's. The iPad is very much the same, just more polished and with an incredibly innovative and robust app ecosystem. I think all current tablets are a waste of time.
One thing is for sure, Android isn't going to take over but Windows 8 might (and I personally think will completely dominate the market within 2-3 years).
I love these comments about Honeycomb.
While the apps to go with Android tablets don't compare to the iPad apps, yet, that doesn't mean anything for Honeycomb itself.
It's a beautiful OS. And great for tablets.
I would even go as far as making the claim that it is better than IOS is on the iPad.
Its not an android community, its a community for developers to meet and discuss. The fact that I dislike android tablets is not something that shouldn't be posted. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Android is too slow for a tablet in my opinion, I want a speedy OS for a tablet experience, I want something that feels fast, fluid, and smooth. I want something with a pleasant UI and I want something where I dont have to concern myself with app compatibility. Hell, I prefer my windows XP tablet to the current offerings. I hope windows 8 changes that. Android is just too broken for me. For every selling point there's an equally large flaw and that's my issue.
z33dev33l said:
Its not an android community, its a community for developers to meet and discuss. The fact that I dislike android tablets is not something that shouldn't be posted. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Android is too slow for a tablet in my opinion, I want a speedy OS for a tablet experience, I want something that feels fast, fluid, and smooth. I want something with a pleasant UI and I want something where I dont have to concern myself with app compatibility. Hell, I prefer my windows XP tablet to the current offerings. I hope windows 8 changes that. Android is just too broken for me. For every selling point there's an equally large flaw and that's my issue.
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It's a predominately android community. You make comments with no information given all the time to try to start a fight and it's beyond ridiculous.
By this post you have clearly shown that you have never used Honeycomb.
Of course, I should expect this from the same person that tried to skew data for no other reason than to make Android look bad and try to stir the pot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206411
You are entitled to your own opinion, of course, but it is wrong to make judgement on something that you clearly have not even tried.
Another "me too" nook color device... great. A degradation to the kindle lineage.
mattykinsx said:
It's a predominately android community. You make comments with no information given all the time to try to start a fight and it's beyond ridiculous.
By this post you have clearly shown that you have never used Honeycomb.
Of course, I should expect this from the same person that tried to skew data for no other reason than to make Android look bad and try to stir the pot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206411
You are entitled to your own opinion, of course, but it is wrong to make judgement on something that you clearly have not even tried.
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I have tried honeycomb, actually have it on a nexus S and on a tab. Its not any more impressive than any other build, even less so as a number of the apps dont work or display very small. As for my prior mistake that can be blamed entirely on wmpoweruser.com who reported what I said, the skewed data was on their part. I have since found out that they are a very biased site and only about 1/5 of their blogs aren't a comparison of how much better we are than android. This does not change the fact that I feel android is actually even worse than ios on tablets and that says something as ios is bad on iPhones and garish on tablets.
z33dev33l said:
I have tried honeycomb, actually have it on a nexus S and on a tab. Its not any more impressive than any other build, even less so as a number of the apps dont work or display very small. As for my prior mistake that can be blamed entirely on wmpoweruser.com who reported what I said, the skewed data was on their part. I have since found out that they are a very biased site and only about 1/5 of their blogs aren't a comparison of how much better we are than android. This does not change the fact that I feel android is actually even worse than ios on tablets and that says something as ios is bad on iPhones and garish on tablets.
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Please support your points by some brief explanation to each of those statements. Else, it sounds like you're just trolling OR are an android hateboy.
Keep in mind that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, wrong/right. Some opinions are justified by plain laid facts, some are just ignorant. You seem to be the latter. I would want to treat someone like you the same way, *add to ignore list*.
Also, it doesn't really make sense using something you don't like, on your primary devices. Add to that, you're using it on smartphone too, a device not created for such an OS.
I still doubt if you've ever used honeycomb other than relying on (anti-android) blog reviews.
sygeek said:
Please support your points by some brief explanation to each of those statements. Else, it sounds like you're just trolling OR are an android hateboy.
Keep in mind that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, wrong/right. Some opinions are justified by plain laid facts, some are just ignorant. You seem to be the latter. I would want to treat someone like you the same way, *add to ignore list*.
Also, it doesn't really make sense using something you don't like, on your primary devices. Add to that, you're using it on smartphone too, a device not created for such an OS.
I still doubt if you've ever used honeycomb other than relying on (anti-android) blog reviews.
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those aren't my primary devices, they're devices that I use to test apps and such when I do bother devving for android (which is becoming less and less frequent.) tell me, what fact do I need to back up? Even on the iPad (which is a complete joke) ios is fully hardware accelerated, plays the vast majority of the apps that the iPhone does, and that's about the only arguments I have in the ipads favor but it's more than I can say about android/honeycomb. It was and is a beta OS that was never completed. Most of the games I played on the tab either had fixed dimensions or would FC whenever I tried opening them. I would never use android devices as my primary devices, I have a dell venue pro and an aging XP tablet for that.
Ignoring the fact that "<something> killer" is a stupid phrase, what exactly is it about this tablet that is supposedly capable of killing the iPad? Cos well, I don't get it.
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Ignoring the fact that "<something> killer" is a stupid phrase, what exactly is it about this tablet that is supposedly capable of killing the iPad? Cos well, I don't get it.
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Maybe it hunts in packs, or drops down on unsuspecting ipads from low branches?
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I am probably not considering something very obvious, such as "focus", but with the news that HP has now bought Palm, rescuing the highly praised webOS from a premature death, would HTC --- do you think --- ever make a webOS smartphone?
Aren't they playing it rather cool at the moment re Windows Phone? -- with some speculation that Microsoft's lockdowns would prohibit things like SenseUI, thereby giving reason to question "why make phones at all for Windows?" ... So, with that thought floating around, I'm just not familiar with the proprietary relationships between Palm and its device manufacturers.
Someone help me out here:
(1) Phone Manufacturers making devices for Android OS:
HTC
Motorola
Samsung
Sony
Acer
(Toshiba?)
( )
(2) Phone Manufacturers slated to make devices for WindowsPhone series 7:
??
(3) Phone Manufacturers who design phones for Blackberry:
?? (I don't know this market at all, but am curious)
(4) Phone Manufacturers who make phones currently for Palm (the Pre, Pixie)
?? again, i just don't know, have never followed this
(5) Phone Manufacturers who make phones for iPhone OS:
Apple
(some knock-off called Syphone, right? but does it actually run apple's OS?)
I'm pretty sure blackberry design its own phones.
Everyone (or at least most of them) you have listed up in the Android section is also making WP7 devices. Additionally also DELL. Nokia is also doing close business with Microsoft. It's a pity! They should rather jump on Android as well if they want to get out there alive
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I'm pretty sure blackberry design its own phones.
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Really? They have in-house product design, or do they contract it out secretively and just brand every result a RIM device?
I know next to nothing about Blackberrys other than the hype about redundant servers and lots of reasons why they have been billed as the secure email solution for all these lawfirm and gopvernment types...
But once they went touchscreen, do they actually have a separate OS, or do they not distinguish between the hardware and software -- for marketing purposes so as not to confuse their customers about their core message of secure mesaging?
Followup since maybe you know a thing or two about blackberrys: the storm was a bust, right? At the time it was considered laughbalethat they could penetrate the casual consumer market.. but have they come back with better offerings in the touchscreen arena?
Do you see them always in some way presrving their core hardware philosophy of keyboard below screen, single orientatation vs rotate? ... or do you think they will try to move their diehard custimers toweard bigger screens like droid, and give them a slide out, flip out, fold over, or other kind of deployable hardware keyboard?
Just curiousabout your thoughts/
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Everyone (or at least most of them) you have listed up in the Android section is also making WP7 devices. Additionally also DELL. Nokia is also doing close business with Microsoft. It's a pity! They should rather jump on Android as well if they want to get out there alive
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Okay I figured that re WP7 device makers, since they came first and android was tapped next... But dell makes touchscreen devices? damn, i never knew that! Their marketing must be lousy.
Nokia keeps baffling me.
RAMMANN, I saw you commenting (i think ) in that " WP7 fail" thread, right, aren't you active in that?
Regardless: Help me understand this: I've never understood the Symbian OS or its market simply because i never had a symbian powered phone... But, isn't this correct -- about a year ago nokia bought symbian, right? But my recollection from back then -- which may be wrong -- was that they were going to kill it -- or simply use it as a proprietary OS in their own phones.
And yet... within that WP7 fail thread, numerous comments particularly at the start of the thread sang the praises of Symbian OS as the most efficient and best Open source OS out there -- with those praising it saying that, by contrast, ANdroid is a battery hog and ineffcient in its process managewment... The precise details are not so impt for what I want to knoiw:
Although I have known nothing about Symbian, the buzz, whenever i heard it mentioned over the past 5 years, was always positive... almost cult-like ... or rather "true believers" because it was that outstanding an OS...
So, if that is the case... and Nokia bought them, what WAS their plan? to give them respources to develop it further fortheir exclusive use, or what? The discussion confused me becasue it made it seem to me that it was still a very active OS outthere for developers to work with...
So what am I missing her.. it seems like I am missing the whole story. And re Nokia themselves... why are they always -- to my mind -- considered in an entirely different box or category from WM (i don;t like calling WP), Android, iPhone, WebOS, Blackberry? They never seem to get parity... The only time I hear or see Nokia mentioned is when someone wants to make a comparison about how inefficinet current phones are, and how their Nokia from 10 years ago could do virtually everything Phone X can do today (minus the big media player screen) with battery charge lasting 5 days, and stuff of that nature... or they mention the Nokia N900 as the best phone out there --- yet it rarely comes up in the big compariosn tests.
Why is that?
And does N900 run symbian OS? If so, is it marketed that way? [EDIT: OKAY I just read this part, so i see that answer is no: which begs the question AGAIN: why are devs here at XDA continuing to extoll the greatness of symbian ?? why?? Is it The Poor Little OS That Nobody Really Took The Time To Understand? or what??
EDIT: from a review contained in link above:
The main buzz about the Nokia N900 has centred on its operating system. Instead of the ageing Symbian S60 OS found in all Nokia's top end blowers, Espoo has opted for Maemo 5 instead. And we're pleased to say the results, as far as the OS is concerned, are every bit as good as we hoped. Maemo 5 is a far more intuitive OS than S60 and certainly edges out the N97 for ease of use. The menus are clear and straight forward, so you won't spend ages rooting around for what you want when you need it. It feels way more powerful too, with the Nokia N900 dealing with multitasking at lightning speed.
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And finally, this statement:
Nokia is also doing close business with Microsoft. It's a pity! They should rather jump on Android as well if they want to get out there alive
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First off, how are they collaborating? Are they not in direct competition with head-to-head OS ?
... Were you alluding to more of a case of Nokia hooking up with the wrong contender for SURVIVING ALONG WITH IPHONE -- Windows vs Android? -- or were you alluding to Nokia having company stability problems like Palm was having, heading straight inot the tank -- before rescued last second by HP?
I know these are lots of questions -- but it's because I see the events of Palm's acquisition as being way more significant than others might see. And so it has promoted all these questions... yes... about survival as consumers start to select in the next year which touchscreen platforms start to go away because they just can't compete anymore, lacking sufficient differentiation or value proposition.
Any answer -- even if to just one of my 50 questions -- would be valued! thank you
I don't know what you are all asking, but trying to answer....
I never had Symbian device, nor do I really know a lot about the openess of the OS. From what I heard it was very open in the beginning (maybe similar to Windows Mobile?) but then suddenly lots of viruses began to spread and the Symbian OS got locked down. I think it's a similar Sandbox approach like on Android. Though I can't really say this is correct, it's only what I heard from people, so far I never did any research on my own.
Nokia jumpin on WP7 instead of Android, I took a piss on it because I think WP7 sucks. Currently it's not even sure the OS will be successful. Android already is.
That's all.... really nothing to worry about or put a lot of thoughts into
design != produce
htc produce devices for others and design for others or at least used to
apple, ms.... don't produce their hardware they design it and have others produce it
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Apple
(some knock-off called Syphone, right? but does it actually run apple's OS?)
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It doesn't. The old ones used to run Nucleous Plus OS. I heard some versions are running android / windows 6.1 now.
Real quick, too much to read. I know BlackBerry is owned by RIM. I think they actually manufacture it and distribute it. I don't know if you were asking about RIM or just knew nothing about BlackBerrys.
And why companies operate with Microsoft: money.
Thanks for the answers.
So Blackberry makes Blackerrys. check.
Nokia to work with MS because of money. Okay.
HTC produces devices platform owners prescribe, ie to match the WM hardware and OS specs and Android hardware and OS specs.
I ask too many questions, I'll admit that. But my two main ones remain unaswered, not even close. (still, why can't people take 10 minutes occasionally for some big picture thinking, why is everything reduced down to twitter chatter?
(1) My thread topic question -- no one has even taken a stab at it. Who currently makes the phones that run webOS? i.e., who made the Pre and Pixie. ... with HP's acquisition of Palm, do you see HP wanting to exclusively manufacture Palm devices? ... or do you see them having any interest in having more device choice by asking HTC to develop phones for webOS. That's my main question. My guess is: no one knows. fair enough.
(2) My 2nd main question was what Nokia's plans for Symbian were. ANd could someone sort out the mixed message? At that "Windows Phone 7 epic fail" thread, various XDA-devs sing the praises of Symbian as a better OS than android, way more efficient. .. Then I read the review for the Nokia N900 and it says Nokia jettisoned Symbian as outdated. So wtf are people talking about re SYmbian then? And does it have a future?
RELATED: In the Touchscreen OS Wars of 2010-2011, it looks like webOS will live to see another day, WP7 will likely survive and thrive in its enterprise market niche or wherever the hell their niche turns out to be. iPhone OS survives. Android survives -- and yet -- you read some online magazines and people love to speak of market fragmentation already happening with Android, and that it's already spelling doom and gloom for Android yadda yadda... I think though that is true re the 2.1 vs 1.5. 1.6 version problems and Google ought to get their act togeher, Android , unless they misstep, is here to stay.
But will Blackberry have and be a touchscreen OS, or a platform Blackberry builds off of, or will it be phased out?
And what of Symbian? Is it in effect dead now in terms of a platform for mainstream consumer devices?
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(1) My thread topic question -- no one has even taken a stab at it. Who currently makes the phones that run webOS? i.e., who made the Pre and Pixie. ... with HP's acquisition of Palm, do you see HP wanting to exclusively manufacture Palm devices? ... or do you see them having any interest in having more device choice by asking HTC to develop phones for webOS. That's my main question. My guess is: no one knows. fair enough.
RELATED: In the Touchscreen OS Wars of 2010-2011, it looks like webOS will live to see another day, WP7 will likely survive and thrive in its enterprise market niche or wherever the hell their niche turns out to be. iPhone OS survives. Android survives -- and yet -- you read some online magazines and people love to speak of market fragmentation already happening with Android, and that it's already spelling doom and gloom for Android yadda yadda... I think though that is true re the 2.1 vs 1.5. 1.6 version problems and Google ought to get their act togeher, Android , unless they misstep, is here to stay.
But will Blackberry have and be a touchscreen OS, or a platform Blackberry builds off of, or will it be phased out?
And what of Symbian? Is it in effect dead now in terms of a platform for mainstream consumer devices?
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I'm sorry, but your topic question is is very bold letters on wikipedia. Pal, Inc. is the manufacturer of the Palm Pixi. Almost every question you have related to who makes what is easiest thing to find on Google.
BlackBerry has a touchscreen OS. The BlackBerry Storm? Hello? BlackBerry is here to stay. It is very useful for office phones. My fathers work actually distributes those now instead of beepers. When you need a phone for nothing but e-mail and scheduling and nothing else - BlackBerrys are the best. Who knows about touchscreen as their not really trying to apply to teenagers and fashion freaks. They're trying to make a phone that's good for business - and their doing a very good job.
Android will always be here to stay. Trust me on this. There's nothing wrong with the market. If you did read that, it's just a rumor. Google has no reason to "get their act together." Android was just born, and it's getting developed fast. See, they could wait like Apple and make a new generation only every now and again, or shoot out updates rapidly. I like updates rapidly. =]
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I'm sorry, but your topic question is is very bold letters on wikipedia. Pal, Inc. is the manufacturer of the Palm Pixi. Almost every question you have related to who makes what is easiest thing to find on Google.=]
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Okay then, fine. That's the literal side of XDA that i find so unrefreshing. On the other hand, there are thousands to compensate for your snide attitude who recognize the underlying question is about impact of HP buying Palm and what ripple effects we might see.
Let me google that:
"ripple effects we might see due to HP buying Palm"
I'm sure it'll be fascinating, but in any event probably a lot more interesting than anything you've added here.
Chastising and pulling the old "use search" rubric is quite boring and indicative of a tunnelvision mind. But thanks for an answer at least.
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Okay then, fine. That's the literal side of XDA that i find so unrefreshing. On the other hand, there are thousands to compensate for your snide attitude who recognize the underlying question is about impact of HP buying Palm and what ripple effects we might see.
Let me google that:
"ripple effects we might see due to HP buying Palm"
I'm sure it'll be fascinating, but in any event probably a lot more interesting than anything you've added here.
Chastising and pulling the old "use search" rubric is quite boring and indicative of a tunnelvision mind. But thanks for an answer at least.
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And that's what 90% of people at XDA find so unrefreshing. You ask a question (one very simple to answer) without trying to find it out yourself. Then you post a thread and when people respond with ideas, you INSULT THEM for not knowing! THEN, when we help for future reference, you INSULT?! You actually expect us to help you? Next time I see you, I'll be sure to kick you in the nuts and demand you take me out to dinner.
It's not like I even had to dig through Google!
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=&sou...anufactures+palm&gs_rfai=&fp=84c7fb41710deb10
Very, very simple search with 10 results right there. Don't insult me because you're lazy or just that stupid.
edit: To your ripple effect remark:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...after+buying+palm&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
DID THAT JUST WORK!? ZOMG!
For many of the questions you ask people can only answer with spectaculations, esp. thread title, so what would you expect? and btw this is usually a development forum
I personally don't understand the fragmentation issue people claim over Android. I don't have an Android phone and therefore never had a chance to access the market but from what I heard people with Android 1.6 don't see applications designed for 2.1 and sometimes vice versa. Actually that's a good thing because this way it is secured that you're not installing an app that doesn't work on your phone. And if developers are still active on such projects they will add support for future versions of Android and if they don't then their projects will die. That's also a good thing. This is better solved compared to WM. Imagine you have 6.5 and install applications designed for PPC 2003. Sometimes they work, sometimes not, sometimes they work but just look ugly (designed for stylus etc.)
Like I said before I can't tell this for sure, but probably an experienced Android user can confirm this or otherwise tell what's wrong....
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For many of the questions you ask people can only answer with spectaculations, esp. thread title, so what would you expect? and btw this is usually a development forum
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Was this to me, or him? o.o
I personally don't understand the fragmentation issue people claim over Android. I don't have an Android phone and therefore never had a chance to access the market but from what I heard people with Android 1.6 don't see applications designed for 2.1 and sometimes vice versa. Actually that's a good thing because this way it is secured that you're not installing an app that doesn't work on your phone. And if developers are still active on such projects they will add support for future versions of Android and if they don't then their projects will die. That's also a good thing. This is better solved compared to WM. Imagine you have 6.5 and install applications designed for PPC 2003. Sometimes they work, sometimes not, sometimes they work but just look ugly (designed for stylus etc.)
Like I said before I can't tell this for sure, but probably an experienced Android user can confirm this or otherwise tell what's wrong....
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I see plenty of 2.1 only apps in the market, and vice versa (from all the comments "Duuhhjuu doesn't run on my droid which isn't 1.6 even though you clearly say its for donut only duhhhjjuu" I wish this was true, and this is why many dev. actually stop developing.
And if it doesn't run - it doesn't run. You get a force close. If it runs - it runs.
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And that's what 90% of people at XDA find so unrefreshing. You ask a question (one very simple to answer) without trying to find it out yourself. Then you post a thread and when people respond with ideas,
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If you had any ideas about HTC ever manufacturing for webOS touchscreen operating system, i did not see them, for that was the question, and it's never been edited in the title.
you INSULT THEM for not knowing! THEN, when we help for future reference, you INSULT?!
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Honestly r3s-rt, I'm not sure where I see your help at all. Your interest was slapdown from the start, and you got called out on it, and people like you don't like getting called out on anything, so you get into anger mode, and "I'm so much smarter than you" mode. That's what I meant by annoying.
It's not like I even had to dig through Google!
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=&sou...anufactures+palm&gs_rfai=&fp=84c7fb41710deb10
Very, very simple search with 10 results right there. Don't insult me because you're lazy or just that stupid.
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You are correct that there's a sub-question of the thread topic that is a simple known that a search engine would tell me. If I had posted a thread topic asking "hey guys, who manufactures the palm Pre", it would be relevant. The fact that its incidental to the core question of what change might be introduced by a culture change brought on by HP 's purchase of Palm mitigates your whole operatic theme of "look how quickly I found the answer!"...
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...after+buying+palm&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
DID THAT JUST WORK!? ZOMG!
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Look, I can tell you think you are about the smartest guy on the planet, and perhaps you are. However, you are showing your oversensitivity to my comment about the twitterization of our culture 's attention span. I stand by that. "Too much to read" was you preface... That stung you. You didn't like that. So you wanted to slam. I understand that. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings implying you had an impatiently short attention span.
If you DO happen to read this whole post, consider the following:
Here is a snapshot of your search results that allegedly answer the central question of this thread:
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The presence of search results on Google does not equal the opinions of XDA-dev members.
My thread question: Would HTC ever make a Phone for WebOS, now that Palm bought by HP? I think has relevance because there has been quite a lot of discussion since February and the preview of WP7 that HTC might not be so interested in making phones for WP7 given they would be, supposedly, prohibited from including any of the HTC SenseUI interface features they have been developing and improving over the years, from TouchFlo on WM to Sense on Android. Thus, if they were to be removed from the WP7 lineup, my question, sparked by the acquisition of palm by HP, was whether HTC might ever be asked to make phones for the webOS platform. It seems to me to be an interesting question to ask a forum founded around a company that started the touchscreen phone industry.
That is why there is such robust opinion on the 324 posts here on this thread thread WP7 is complete FAIL ... far more depth and insight than could be found by sequential readings from this for example:
The problem is: algorithms still do not replace humans, and much as I find your style of communication annoying, I would probably grow tired, on a desert island, of talking to an algorithm after a while and mush prefer talking to you than to it... much like Man in white and man in black on LOST.
But trust me I get it, you'd much rather be deemed right and thew winner than have a thoughtful speculation about the ripple effects of webOS being kept alive by HP's purchase of Palm. I'm really happy to hear of it. Palm threw a Hail Mary pass with their ground-up webOS and new Pre -- and it was really well reviewed, well- received, and to this day there is considerable praise for webOS. That it was about to die with palm's imminent death would have been too bad.
It will be interesting to see if Microsoft's Hail Mary pass can resuscitate its once dominant mobile platform.
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Anything that involves all of the phones and doesn't fit in any of the other fora.
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(3) Phone Manufacturers who design phones for Blackberry:
?? (I don't know this market at all, but am curious)
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I know BlackBerry is owned by RIM. I think they actually manufacture it and distribute it.
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But will Blackberry have and be a touchscreen OS, or a platform Blackberry builds off of, or will it be phased out?
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BlackBerry has a touchscreen OS. The BlackBerry Storm? Hello? BlackBerry is here to stay. It is very useful for office phones. My fathers work actually distributes those now instead of beepers. When you need a phone for nothing but e-mail and scheduling and nothing else - BlackBerrys are the best. Who knows about touchscreen as their not really trying to apply to teenagers and fashion freaks. They're trying to make a phone that's good for business - and their doing a very good job.
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(4) Phone Manufacturers who make phones currently for Palm (the Pre, Pixie)
?? again, i just don't know, have never followed this
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Pal, Inc. is the manufacturer of the Palm Pixi.
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I was never here to help? You just got pissy because I simply pointed out that you refused to search, instead you depended on everyone else.
I ask too many questions, I'll admit that. But my two main ones remain unaswered, not even close. (still, why can't people take 10 minutes occasionally for some big picture thinking, why is everything reduced down to twitter chatter?
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There's where you insulted. If you didn't mean that as an insult, it certainly came off as one. However, as I don't use twitter, other than keeping up with companies, news, etc.; I wouldn't know about this twitter talk. I could possibly be wrong.
You called me out on nothing.
I'm sorry, but your topic question is is very bold letters on wikipedia. Pal, Inc. is the manufacturer of the Palm Pixi. Almost every question you have related to who makes what is easiest thing to find on Google.
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That's the most "offensive" thing I could have said. Your response was:
Okay then, fine. That's the literal side of XDA that i find so unrefreshing. On the other hand, there are thousands to compensate for your snide attitude who recognize the underlying question is about impact of HP buying Palm and what ripple effects we might see.
Let me google that:
"ripple effects we might see due to HP buying Palm"
I'm sure it'll be fascinating, but in any event probably a lot more interesting than anything you've added here.
Chastising and pulling the old "use search" rubric is quite boring and indicative of a tunnelvision mind. But thanks for an answer at least.
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To which I said:
And that's what 90% of people at XDA find so unrefreshing. You ask a question (one very simple to answer) without trying to find it out yourself. Then you post a thread and when people respond with ideas, you INSULT THEM for not knowing! THEN, when we help for future reference, you INSULT?! You actually expect us to help you? Next time I see you, I'll be sure to kick you in the nuts and demand you take me out to dinner.
It's not like I even had to dig through Google!
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=&sour...c7fb41710deb10
Very, very simple search with 10 results right there. Don't insult me because you're lazy or just that stupid.
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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Now can you follow the conversation? You called me out on what where? I got angry where? I simple stated facts, and even got a humorous laugh out of this.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sale-of-palm-looking-tougher-2010-04-29
^^ Also taken from my search results.
In a conference call with analysts, Bradley called H-P's $1.2 billion deal to buy Palm a "transformational deal." He noted the company's similar Silicon Valley backgrounds, and promised that H-P will invest "heavily" in Palm, and plans to expand the company's webOS into other devices beyond smartphones. He also said Jon Rubinstein, the CEO of Palm, plans to stay on. See H-P-Palm news story.
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http://gizmodo.com/5526620/hp-buys-palm-how-it-changes-everything
^^ Taken from my search results. Clearly covers your ripple effects.
Ohhh this one's a long one....
Worst Case Scenario
The real challenge might come in reconciling the brand personalities. Palm's products, regardless of how well they've sold, have always been innovative—the Pre was a breath of fresh air when it was released. HP, on the other hand, has tended to paint in broad beige strokes. And their products that do stand out, like the Envy laptop, have come across as derivative. There's also the unfortunate case of iPaq—another HP acquisition that was left to rot.
So will Palm fuel HP's creative capabilities? Or will HP stifle the ingenuity that's made Palm worth buying in the first place?
Best Case Scenario
HP has the resources to fully leverage Palm's software and hardware, and not just on smartphones. And while Palm's problem was never that it couldn't keep up with demand, its main issue—generating demand in the first place—is no longer a problem with HP's reach and marketing budget. HP's made a significant investment thus far in their TouchSmart interface, and while it's a fine skin it can only stand to gain from webOS insights. Can you say webOS tablet?
What May Happen
As for when we'll actually start seeing webOS in HP products, HP's being mum. It's reasonable to expect we won't hear anything more official until the transaction is complete, but there are some very clear paths they can (and probably will) take:
• Phones—Whither the iPaq? Ha, who cares! It's doubtful that HP would spend this kind of money on an established brand like Palm just to murder it in service of a flimsy brand like iPaq. HP's phone line has always been undistinguished, so for them to buy Palm is effectively to install a pre-made, well-regarded mobile division into their company. So, what does this mean in terms of actual phones?
There will probably be another generation of webOS phones. Yesterday, I wouldn't have felt certain about this; today, it's a good bet. Palm was living and dying by the Pre and Pixi, which were first-gen products running a first-gen operating system. HP's massive resources will give the OS the kind of time it needs to spread its wings on time-appropriate hardware. Imagine a webOS phone with WVGA resolution; with a Snapdragon processor; with a genuinely responsive interface. That's what we're talking about here. Forget the Pre Plus—it's time to start waiting for the Pre II.
The only awkward point here is that HP is an official partner with Microsoft for Windows Phone 7. They've committed to continue working with Windows Phone 7, although one might imagine that their interest in Microsoft's platform diminishes significantly now that they've got their own in-house mobile operating system.
• Computers—With this purchase comes a wealth of intellectual property (patents) spanning decades, much of which concerns touch interfaces. HP has been very, very aggressive in developing touch interfaces for Windows machines with its TouchSmart line, and could easily incorporate some of Palm's mobile tricks into its software. By and large, though, HP's expansive computer lineup will remain unchanged.
• Tablets—HP's tablet strategy is heading in a dangerous direction. The anticipated HP Slate runs Windows 7, a desktop OS, while much of the rest of the industry seems to have opted for mobile OSes. HP hasn't shown a ton of interest in Android in the past, and their tablet plans have so far ignored Google's OS—the presumed competitors to the iPad's iPhone-based OS. Which brings me to what is quite possibly the most exciting possibility here: The webOS tablet.
No, seriously—think about it. WebOS has a more intuitive interface than Android, and better notification system than anyone else, and prodigious social networking abilities. It has a fair amount of apps. It's compatible with the same mobile hardware that's powering many of the first wave of Android tablets. This—this—would be awesome.
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Now, do you really want to continue this flaming me for helping you? o.o
Sorry, I believe this deserves its own post:
But trust me I get it, you'd much rather be deemed right and thew winner than have a thoughtful speculation about the ripple effects of webOS being kept alive by HP's purchase of Palm. I'm really happy to hear of it. Palm threw a Hail Mary pass with their ground-up webOS and new Pre -- and it was really well reviewed, well- received, and to this day there is considerable praise for webOS. That it was about to die with palm's imminent death would have been too bad.
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H-P will invest "heavily" in Palm, and plans to expand the company's webOS into other devices beyond smartphones
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I hear an apology?
Oh, NO HTC will NOT be developing a phone with webos anytime soon. They may try, but that all ends up in HPs hands. If they're smart, and can keep webos on the right track, then no, don't expect to see it on an HTC phone anytime soon.
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Now, do you really want to continue this flaming me for helping you? o.o
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Not flaming. But I will take issue with you because you are so heavily invested in being right, so much so that while you place your microscope upon certain pixels that excite you, you ignore, or just don't consider my question worthy of consideration.. which is your right, but why do you have to pollute my thread and take it totally off-topic -- to prove your prowess?
What is wrong with you.
The presence of search results on Google does not equal the opinions of XDA-dev members.
My thread question: Would HTC ever make a Phone for WebOS, now that Palm bought by HP? I think has relevance because there has been quite a lot of discussion since February and the preview of WP7 that HTC might not be so interested in making phones for WP7 given they would be, supposedly, prohibited from including any of the HTC SenseUI interface features they have been developing and improving over the years, from TouchFlo on WM to Sense on Android. Thus, if they were to be removed from the WP7 lineup, my question, sparked by the acquisition of palm by HP, was whether HTC might ever be asked to make phones for the webOS platform. It seems to me to be an interesting question to ask a forum founded around a company that started the touchscreen phone industry.
That is why there is such robust opinion on the 324 posts here on this thread thread WP7 is complete FAIL ... far more depth and insight than could be found by sequential readings from this for example:
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The quoted part above is what I care about. Not someone's story. Not someone's search results. That's not why Im part of XDA... As the Windows Phone 7 example should have amply shown... but again, pixels that didn't allow you to score. Such a tempest in a teapot.
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Not flaming. But I will take issue with you because you are so heavily invested in being right, so much so that while you place your microscope upon certain pixels that excite you, you ignore, or just don't consider my question worthy of consideration.. which is your right, but why do you have to pollute my thread and take it totally off-topic -- to prove your prowess?
What is wrong with you.
The quoted part above is what I care about. Not someone's story. Not someone's search results. That's not why Im part of XDA... As the Windows Phone 7 example should have amply shown... but again, pixels that didn't allow you to score. Such a tempest in a teapot.
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Please, read my last post then come up with an actual response. No more insults. You are just determined for me to insult you, aren't you?
anyone got any? I'm a supporter of WP7 so I'm not so good at selling android but she wants to know so yeah. Any ideas o_0
You should really take her to Bestbuy so she can try one out. The phone is too big to be practical in my opinion.
Well, it's Android, so it's automatically superior.
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If laggy mediocre unattractive UIs are your thing I guess. I prefer something fluid. WP7 may not yet have the market but hey, it's doing better than android right out of the gate and the vast majority of ours arent ringtone packs and fart apps.
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If laggy mediocre unattractive UIs are your thing I guess. I prefer something fluid. WP7 may not yet have the market but hey, it's doing better than android right out of the gate and the vast majority of ours arent ringtone packs and fart apps.
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Maybe you have lag on 2 year old devices. There's absolutely zero on my EVO. Also, the vast majority of your apps aren't anything because you barely have any apps on WP7. According to Koush (from the CyanogoenMod team), the app approval process for WP7 development is also a nightmare, so I wouldn't expect it to garner much attention on that front. WP7 is basically dead in the water (like BlackBerry) because it can't compete with Android and iOS.
your going to get bored with the streak if you plan on making use of it for daily use, HD7 is sleek and compact, plus android is good is your going to tweak, personally i dont like android out of the box
The big difference between the two: Streak works on ATT's 3G, HD7 works on T-Mo's. However, if you're not tied to any one carrier, the big thing to take into consideration is the deliciously monstrous screen. I've only played with a demo unit, but even running Android 1.6, it was a fun unit to play with. The deal killer for me was that I would be using it as my primary phone, and the awesomest feature, the giant screen, is also its biggest drawback, as it would cause it to not fit in my pants. However, since women carry those purse things, and otterbox makes an outlandishly large case for it to protect it from other purse-bound items, it may be an option. As mentioned above, take her to best buy and let her play with a unit. That'll be the best way to let her see if she'd like one. They've also recently dropped to $100 on contract, which sweetens the deal considerably.
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Maybe you have lag on 2 year old devices. There's absolutely zero on my EVO. Also, the vast majority of your apps aren't anything because you barely have any apps on WP7. According to Koush (from the CyanogoenMod team), the app approval process for WP7 development is also a nightmare, so I wouldn't expect it to garner much attention on that front. WP7 is basically dead in the water (like BlackBerry) because it can't compete with Android and iOS.
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I thought that as well until I played with WP7
the lack of GPU acceleration is a dealbreaker.
The main reason for it being harder on apps than android is so we don't get cluttered with garbage apps like ringtone apps and hundreds of fart apps. Android may have more but 99 percent of it is things no intelligent person would touch. WP7 is a more practical approach and not meant for third graders. That paired with a much better UI, well, theres not too much that could go wrong.
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I thought that as well until I played with WP7
the lack of GPU acceleration is a dealbreaker.
The main reason for it being harder on apps than android is so we don't get cluttered with garbage apps like ringtone apps and hundreds of fart apps. Android may have more but 99 percent of it is things no intelligent person would touch. WP7 is a more practical approach and not meant for third graders. That paired with a much better UI, well, theres not too much that could go wrong.
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Hmm. Let me take a look at the Android Market. No, I can't say I see ANY "fart apps or ringtone apps." Of course, I don't look for new apps by browsing the "just in" category. The "top apps" categories and new "similar" tab provide everything I need for a junk-free Market experience. Oh, and I like my homescreen to be more than a bunch of boring, solid-colored boxes. That "speed" you mention comes heavily at the cost of customization.
no its the lack of gpu acceleration. no cost just poor software. Last I checked I wasnt a 3rd grader who needed a pic of the girl Im crushing on for a homescreen. I'm happy with constantly updated tiles that at one quick glance tell me everything thats going on. Now can anyone tell me any benefits aside from gaming to this OS not the typical fanboy reply "It's better by default." I honestly cant come up with one other plus aside from size.
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The main reason for it being harder on apps than android is so we don't get cluttered with garbage apps like ringtone apps and hundreds of fart apps. Android may have more but 99 percent of it is things no intelligent person would touch. WP7 is a more practical approach and not meant for third graders. That paired with a much better UI, well, theres not too much that could go wrong.
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Stop regurgitating whatever Steve Jobs says. What's with your fixation on fart apps and ringtones?
If you're asking for opinions, act like a grown-up and consider what others are sharing with you. If you want to dismiss everything as OMFGANDROIDSUXLULZZZ then stop wasting everybody's time, go get a goddamn WP7 phone. Stop trolling and GTFO.
Actually I was an android fanboy since the G1, I loved it and would not touch an iphone .with a 10 foot pole. Odds are I've done more to android phones than you or many others. I still root and flash android phones as a side job. I also build my own roms for the nexus one and a few others. I would like a valid reason other than gaming that the streak is better than the HD7 because she is generally interested in the large screen. But you know, with your all caps 1337sp33k you totally showed how capable you are of acting like an adult.
Wow you root and flash Android phones? Dude, you're so pro! Remember, you're the one saying Android is for third graders... so I'm not even going to waste any more time discussing adult-like behavior with you.
Again, if nothing can convince you that Android at its state today is superior to WP7, then by all means go get a WP7 phone. What's holding you up? It seems like you have already made your decision. So, stop fishing for opinions that you know you will dismiss without consideration, and go buy your wife the HD7. I sincerely hope you both enjoy it. WP7 isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it hasn't reached the maturity that Android has. That's the general concensus and there's not much you can change there.
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Wow you root and flash Android phones? Dude, you're so pro! Remember, you're the one saying Android is for third graders... so I'm not even going to waste any more time discussing adult-like behavior with you.
Again, if nothing can convince you that Android at its state today is superior to WP7, then by all means go get a WP7 phone. What's holding you up? It seems like you have already made your decision. So, stop fishing for opinions that you know you will dismiss without consideration, and go buy your wife the HD7. I sincerely hope you both enjoy it. WP7 isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it hasn't reached the maturity that Android has. That's the general concensus and there's not much you can change there.
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No, the desire to customize a UI just doesnt make sense to me. I mean with android itt did because with the UI it would just be bland without customization but the same customization is not necessary on a windows phone. I want herto get the streak because I know she likes it and regardless I still like android it's just not right for the business oriented consumer (me) but she wants a fun phone. I just want to know aside from market is there anything that android beats out WP7 on. That is my one simple question. I know it is a more fun phone but she wants hard facts. I'm already sold on the streak for her taste to be honest. It's her opinion as well however and she (like most women my age) can't make up her mind about anything.
^ dude you are so funny. You bash android every chance you get. First in the WP7 forum, now in the general forums. What are you seeking, vengeance?
The only thing I bashed was when someone said "It's android, it's better by default." I want her to get android because it's better suited for her and she wants a huge screen so I thought streak instantly. I ask the members of the community for facts because she wants them and in return get biased statements that have nothing to do with specs. All I'm asking for is facts.
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The only thing I bashed was when someone said "It's android, it's better by default." I want her to get android because it's better suited for her and she wants a huge screen so I thought streak instantly. I ask the members of the community for facts because she wants them and in return get biased statements that have nothing to do with specs. All I'm asking for is facts.
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The same way that it is a "fact" that Android apps are nothing but ring tones and fart apps?
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I don't know what your wife wants in a phone, but the only "apps" my wife uses on her current phone are the browser and solitaire, which work well in both Android and WP7, so as far as it would apply to her, the flamewar between Android and WP7 would make no difference, and I don't know why it has been carried into this thread. As far as the streak and HD7 are concerned, both are gigahertz devices with half a gig of ram and gorilla glass. The streak has a larger LCD, but it's tft as opposed to the hd7's slcd, so there is that. Also, memory cards on the streak can be shuffled around without busting your warranty, so if the OP's wife moves a lot of data around, that could be important. Also, wp7 has Netflix streaming support, so of you're retarded for Netflix like I am, that may factor in. The streak also uses a goofy proprietary cable, which really doesn't make much difference, but does rub me the wrong way for a reason that I don't fully understand. Other than that, not sure what would be relevant to the OP's question.
I never stated that that was all androids market was composed of. It is composed of some of the best games and that's why I'd think she'd find it more appealing. Someone brought about the fact that the apps on WP7 were harder to get approved and I stated that is to prevent the majority of the market from being junk apps. I'm sorry but 186 different fart machines on android. That says nothing about the system just the app people. I do want to thank the post before mine for those facts, you have sold her on the streak where I couldnt because I don't know much about it's android experience (Dell's custom UI or whatever) and I appreciate that.
No prob, man. Glad to help. I do stress that you should take her to go play with a physical unit before committing to the purchase, though. It is surprisingly thin and easy to hold, but any pressure on the screen makes it do that weird LCD color-smudge thing, and while I was able to use it easily, there were times that the digitizer wasn't reading my swiping gestures correctly. Honestly though, now that it's down to $100 on contract, I'm regretting having cashed-in my upgrade already. What was unreasonable to purchase for $300 is pretty tempting at $100. Oh well, still won't fit in my pants, lol.
Asus Transformer 2 (Prime) was just confirmed an hour ago, didn't see any posts about it in General so decided to throw one up myself.
Comes with Nvidia's Quad-core, or Penta-core depending on how you look at it, processor, most likely Ice Cream Sandwich if not Honeycomb with an upgrade by the end of the year. It's also thinner than both the Ipad 2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 at only 8.3mm with a Micro-SD card slot and Mini-HDMI excluding the ports that will eventually come on the keyboard dock.
Can't post links since I don't have eight posts yet, so if you want to find more info just google Transformer Prime and I'm sure you'll get a lot more information.
kal-el chips, finally!
this thing is a bit too shiny, but i can ignore that for how epicly thin it looks, the raw power, and how great its going to be to use (taken from the transformer 1)
always wanted a transformer, maybe i can obtain one of these.
oh, here's a link. http://phandroid.com/2011/10/19/asu...nstage-and-padfone-availability-during-asiad/
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i will be preordering one
http://allthingsd.com/20111019/jonney-shih-video-highlights-from-asiad-video/
Here is the highlight video of him announcing the Transfromer 2 Prime. Starts at around the 6 minute mark. I have to say that the pictures don't the actually size of the device justice. It's super super thin and looks amazing.
Hello baby, come to Papa. Been waiting for it for a while now!
Hmmm...very interesting indeed...I wonder how much will it cost..
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http://allthingsd.com/20111019/jonney-shih-video-highlights-from-asiad-video/
Here is the highlight video of him announcing the Transfromer 2 Prime. Starts at around the 6 minute mark. I have to say that the pictures don't the actually size of the device justice. It's super super thin and looks amazing.
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Sweet gracious! That is one thin tablet!! Makes my Transformer look like a cinder block...
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Comes with Nvidia's Quad-core, or Penta-core depending on how you look at it, processor
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I'm not sure what you mean. five counting a gpu or what?
slick looking tablet regardless!
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I'm not sure what you mean. five counting a gpu or what?
slick looking tablet regardless!
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The Tegra 3 chip uses four 1.5GHz Cortex-A9 cores, in addition to another Cortex-A9 made on a low-power process, that runs at 500MHz. When the tablet is doing mundane things like checking emails, it drops onto the low-power core to save power.
It is logically a quad-core chip, but it will switch to a single low-power core whenever possible to save power.
Put windows 8 on it and I'll buy 10
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It is logically a quad-core chip, but it will switch to a single low-power core whenever possible to save power.
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oh wow, that's cool. i dont usually pay much attention to tablets, but this one has me excited now!
I'm glad to finally see this coming!
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Put windows 8 on it and I'll buy 10
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I'm glad you hate Android so much. If you didn't, you'd probably beat your wife.
No, if I buy a tablet I want a full desktop, or at least laptop experience out of it. You seem to like to make everything out to look as though I'm the bad guy and troll me even when I'm paying something a compliment. That said, I wouldn't buy an iPad, or another android tab. They're mobile OSes and I want a desktop OS for my tab.
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No, if I buy a tablet I want a full desktop, or at least laptop experience out of it. You seem to like to make everything out to look as though I'm the bad guy and troll me even when I'm paying something a compliment. That said, I wouldn't buy an iPad, or another android tab. They're mobile OSes and I want a desktop OS for my tab.
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Someone brings up the topic of a brand new Android tablet, and your response is "if it had [my favorite software-maker's OS] on it, I'd buy 10." How, exactly, is that a compliment?
Oh, right, 'cause you're a troll!
That statement was actually in relation to the razr thread, however the hardware of this looks outstanding and I'd love to see it run a desktop OS. Asus announced some new 2012 windows 8 tablets though and I'm sure at least one will use a similar chassis so no worries. If I own a tablet computer I want it to be a small computer, not a big phone.
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That statement was actually in relation to the razr thread, however the hardware of this looks outstanding and I'd love to see it run a desktop OS. Asus announced some new 2012 windows 8 tablets though and I'm sure at least one will use a similar chassis so no worries. If I own a tablet computer I want it to be a small computer, not a big phone.
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Oh, well gosh darn. I assumed you were talking about, you know, the topic of this thread—and not some random, unrelated phone. Silly me.
Well, I suppose I missed the line about domestic abuse in the original post. Please sir, practice what you preach. Do not knock a thread off topic and then proceed to insult someone else for doing so. While we're on such a kick, please do not insult my English, I am not originally from an English speaking nation. However, looking at your posts, I could provide you with tutoring. There is no reason to turn every thread that I post in to a jumbled mess, your insistence on doing so is based on a ban you received that was not by my report.
As far as the tablet goes, it's outstanding hardware, I just don't see any current mobile OS replacing my laptop. Android is, however, getting closer and closer. Build a decent version of WINE on there and I may just pick one up.
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Well, I suppose I missed the line about domestic abuse in the original post. Please sir, practice what you preach. Do not knock a thread off topic and then proceed to insult someone else for doing so. While we're on such a kick, please do not insult my English, I am not originally from an English speaking nation. However, looking at your posts, I could provide you with tutoring. There is no reason to turn every thread that I post in to a jumbled mess, your insistence on doing so is based on a ban you received that was not by my report.
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What line about domestic abuse? What tutoring? What ban? And you say I'm the one taking this off topic?
z33dev33l said:
As far as the tablet goes, it's outstanding hardware, I just don't see any current mobile OS replacing my laptop. Android is, however, getting closer and closer. Build a decent version of WINE on there and I may just pick one up.
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This isn't a topic about whether or not tablets are technologically equivalent at handling the tasks of a laptop, as we could all agree they are not. (Again, I'm the one being off topic?) But I certainly agree with you. I'd like tablets to be more like laptops than phones, but (back to on topic...) the introduction of quad-core chips in tablets is certainly the right direction for accomplishing this.
To be quite honest, I don't see the core count as anything outstanding. I mean the only issue we really have with tossing these into phones is size constraints. Tablets get much larger. What's really going to matter is how they make use of such power. Without some crysis quality games, what is the point in all those cores?
lmao I've never seen a thread derailed so quickly.
You guys are badass. Keep it up!!
Man, this is definitely the hardest thing I've ever decided to post to XDA...
Long story not-so-short: I won a GC to Best Buy for 500$ from a local gaming establishment...(read: illegal slot-machine parlor type place).
I had no idea what to get, as I already have a jillion Android devices/tables/phones/accessories and so on...
On a whim, I decided to just get an iPad 2, (just the 16GB, WIFI-only version, just to kinda see what all the hype was all about, and also due to the fact that I had played a couple of games on the store demos and was pretty impressed.)
Mind you, (and if you have ever read any of my anti-Apple rants on XDA) this was my FIRST time owning anything from the company, and I hadn't really touched an I-anything since the mid-eighties, when I used an original Mac in my high school computer lab for writing assignments..
Now, having no recent experience whatsoever with "today's" iOS, upon first use of thie thing I was greatly impressed just with the slickness of the interface overall, and the fact that the first couple of FPS's I legally bought from the app store looked and ran flawlessly (oh yeah, that Temple Run thing is also like video-crack).
I was pretty floored already, but when I decided to jailbreak it and install the basics like Cydia, installous, and Dreamboard, that's kinda when "**** got real".
I realized that many of the arguments I used online when dismissing iOS as a "real" option for someone who is into device hackery as much as I am suddenly dissolved...
No app drawer, or widgets?
No longer the case, solved by a Dreamboard theme...
No live wallpapers, or custom keyboards?
Same story.
ONLY able to use a proprietary Market for apps, music, books, movies, etc?
Solved by Installous and Cydia.
Bonus?
I can theme this thing to look and feel just like a Honeycomb tablet:
For instance, here's my current setup on this thing, and I'm really just scratching the surface of learning what can be done with it:
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Here's a page that shows a couple of more themes I can 'one-click' add:
And here's a freaking app-drawer on an iOS device, something I didn't know was possible:
Basically, I'm just "coming out" and admitting that I'm actually quite smitten with this iPad, which is something I NEVER thought I would say:
(I still couldn't EVER use an iPhone as a daily because there are still a ****ton of limitations compared to Android, so that would never happen, but I gotta say, that for a tablet, even compared to my other Android tablets, right now this is my favorite....)
Please, don't hate me, fellas...(but have fun with the obvious flames that are to be expected....I just had to give props where props were due.)
Anyone else out there with a similar experience?
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I have an itouch and I've used a number of iPads they are nice I'm considering getting one but I'm waiting a bit more just to see if the rumors about the iPad 3 are true. I've already got apps in iTunes that will work that I bought so not a big deal. To each their own a lot of people hate Apple I do on certain things but they do actually make some good products.
Nothing wrong with a device that makes you happy, regardless of the make/os.
Ill admit to having one for a week, but my reaction was different. After having a galaxy tab 10.1 I couldn't adjust and even with jail breaking I hated it.
Hope it continues to keep you satisfied. What most diehards on both sides often forget is there's room for both makes in the world.
The best device will always be whatever makes you happy.
Congrats on your purchase.
Mazook...i would have never thought it possible! Well it is a great device so have fun and enjoy. People bicker alot about apple/android and which is better but i feel both are great. So why not just enjoy all the great mobile tech we have available and appreciate it for what it all is......AWESOME!! Thanks for sharing man.
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Nice purchase! iPads are pretty powerful and useful. I do think it's a bit ironic that you've themed it to look and perform like an Android tablet
lol get to making an asop android 4.0 and we got us a real tablet
I don't get why people get on here to brag about their ipads and iPhones. Really now.
Now that right there is a damn sexy setup for an iPad. Jailbreaking was definitely a must for me on my last 2 iOS devices. People can hate on Apple all they want (like I do ) but they do make high quality products.
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My butthole still itches....
Thinking of writing a post about it.
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iPads are OK, as long as you can never ever ever EVER touch iTunes. That's the deal breaker for me. I can't stand that POS. My wife has an unmodded iPad, and every time I have to update her machine, iTunes pisses me off. Heck, it even pisses her off because her bible software (Olive Tree) seems to lose settings after a major OS rev. I've had to fight with the stupid thing to get her purchases from OT back onto her device. The device itself isn't bad, although it's pretty limited for me, but iTunes is the debil, Momma!
Well since we are confessing... it was actually me who chopped down the cherry tree. George Washington is innocent! Whew! I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders!
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Are we really so engaged in fake-warfare with cellphones that threads such as these are the norm at XDA?
Just curious help me out here.
I love my iPad 2. I have played with practically every other tablet out there, I still think it's the only one worth getting.
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Nice purchase! iPads are pretty powerful and useful. I do think it's a bit ironic that you've themed it to look and perform like an Android tablet
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lol...because that's the only thing my brain knows how to use: I can manipulate through home screens, sling thru apps no prob with an Android setup: it's all I've ever known: seriously, until I put that simple little Xoom theme on it, I was moving thru screens on it like a retarded baboon might: (no offense to any retarded baboons out there).
Also, to Phatman: not trying to come on XDA to "glorify" this thing: I was just pleasantly surprised by something from a company that, in the past, I always (rightfully!) bashed because of their business model and completely proprietary products: I'm just showing that I found what a difference a jailbroken device can make: I'm not selling or advocating the purchase of one: Hell, I thought I'd be the LAST person on Earth to ever own one: the ONLY idevice I've ever purchased before was a Bluetooth keyboard from Apple that I bought from Walmart, at like 2AM to test out on a Nook Color when CM first got it working: they had no other Bluetooth keyboards from other manufacturers available, and it took me like 20 minutes of just staring at the package to make up my mind a "go thru with the purchase", with all the "ethical issues" the entire buying process was creating for me....
Trust me, bro: this was far more "confession-time" than "finding new religion-time".
Edit: Robzilla: thanks for the tip about iTunes: haven't used it: now I'll know not to use it in the future.
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iOS is NO DOUBT a fantastic product and device. but 2 things do bother me, and both of them are really more about business
1. i shouldnt have to jailbreak/root a device to customize it... (keyboards, themes, launchers, etc)
2. i REFUSE to buy products from a business who conducts themselves in such a sleazy manner. just like i cant stand the fanboy who justifies apples ethics because "they are superior". sounds a lot like a certain Pro-Aryan leader of the past...
other than that, im glad you are happy with it! remember, i hate APPLE, not you.
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Basically, I'm just "coming out"
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Whatever makes you happy dude
The iPad is a great product but Apple sucks as a company that's all
The iPad destroys Android tablets. The transformer prime is less usable than the iPad from early last year. I prefer Android on the phone over iOS, but Google and the manufacturers don't get what made the iPad successful, stability, convenience, and the apple store warranty process when something goes wrong, not specs and features. People go to a laptop/desktop when they want specs and features. If your customer has to pay shipping for defects or read 50 page filled forum with complaints, then you are doing it wrong.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 will be the IPads worst nightmare. I have a perfectly operating prime and ipad2 that will both be kicked to the curb for the 10.1 note
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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 will be the IPads worst nightmare. I have a perfectly operating prime and ipad2 that will both be kicked to the curb for the 10.1 note
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If Samsung would only improve their update policies. People buying an iPad know apple will give them the cool new features for at least 2 years after the sale. Android buyers are becoming paralyzed because they don't know which device will be supported. Anybody with professional sales experience will tell you eliminating obstacles to buying is key, I wish Samsung would realize this.
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If Samsung would only improve their update policies. People buying an iPad know apple will give them the cool new features for at least 2 years after the sale. Android buyers are becoming paralyzed because they don't know which device will be supported. Anybody with professional sales experience will tell you eliminating obstacles to buying is key, I wish Samsung would realize this.
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The phones being released now are awesome out the of the box. SGII running 2.3 is good. Ice Cream update is only going to make the majority angry. Why do people think that updates that change the look of the device equates to good? It doesn't. On XDA we are an extreme minority. I wish more people would realize this. GPS works, phone works, text work, apps are awesome with many choices to pick from so what is wrong with it? Oh... it isn't running the latest android OS and that means the device isn't supported, right? Wrong. We just got another update for random fixes on a already stable device.
Here is my reasoning in regards to Apple projects or Android. If I have to go to the extreme to modify it to my liking then your not getting my money. I will not support locking down my devices. I would enjoy a free Ipad. I'd probably love it. But I'm not going to give Apple any money. I'm not going to give Motorola any love with a locked boot loader either. Or Assassin Creed for the PC, they aren't getting any support from me. The choice between Barnes and Nobles and Amazon Tablet for me is simple, Amazon because they didn't lock the boot loader.
Well it seems that new mobile OSes are springing up left right and center we are at a critical point maybe some will survive maybe none will survive i created this tread to start a discussion to see what some are getting right or wrong what u hope to see and what u hope u won't see so, so far we got
Ubuntu phone OS
Tizen
Firefox OS
Blackberry 10
Saltfish OS
Windows phone 8
Each having advantages and disadvantages if I didn't mention a particular new OS please tell me and ill add it
Oh and keep it clean please and not flame other posters
This is a nice question, but can we discuss software yet to be released? For example, Is the Ubuntu phone OS already available? I have an Android smartphone, have been using some custom ROMs for a while and would love to try it. And like this I could participate in this thread having a better subject knowledge.
Please share any link containing information about how to get any of those OSes running. It would like to try them.
Depends, the market Firefox OS is targeted at is developing countries (same for Tizen). The option to more OS's are great; more choice for users and lets users pick an OS better suited to there tastes. I'd like to try them some time. Hopefully they won't flop.
I have an idea that every OS will do out rather quickly, maybe Tizen and Ubuntu will survive.
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For me the market was already divided by Android, WP7/8 and iOS. Other OS, for me, have the risk to fail because people want the things that have other people with lot of apps. Now WP8 has his difficulties to raise the market quota of WP, we now think at these new OSs that try to enter in the market of smartphone with a small market(if they have a market) and few smartphone that have them. Fail for me.
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This is a nice question, but can we discuss software yet to be released? For example, Is the Ubuntu phone OS already available? I have an Android smartphone, have been using some custom ROMs for a while and would love to try it. And like this I could participate in this thread having a better subject knowledge.
Please share any link containing information about how to get any of those OSes running. It would like to try them.
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I know I mean based on the info we currently have
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I have an idea that every OS will do out rather quickly, maybe Tizen and Ubuntu will survive.
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Am with you on that ubuntu thing
but not tizen though
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For me the market was already divided by Android, WP7/8 and iOS. Other OS, for me, have the risk to fail because people want the things that have other people with lot of apps. Now WP8 has his difficulties to raise the market quota of WP, we now think at these new OSs that try to enter in the market of smartphone with a small market(if they have a market) and few smartphone that have them. Fail for me.
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Hmmm but don't u think something new might change the game android and IOS have been dominating for a while now some people just want something new
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It's gonna make the competition stiffer, so that there is a lot of room for improvement of existing OSes!
life!
Bada sunk without a trace and many of the above list will too.
BB10 might succeed but I suspect it's too late for RIM now unless they can capitalise on new markets.
Ubuntu will be niche...use by members of this forum but not many others I think.
WP8 will be OK - it's very slick and gaining traction.
The others will sink without a trace I think.
In my opinion, Android will grow more Market share this 2013. RIM might get their users back(because of BB 10 features; especially the keyboard) but not as many as before. Firefox OS might fail and left alone because of simplicity and lack of features compare to other OS'es. Ubuntu Phone OS will going to be a success, not just because it's free, it's because it's made from unix/linux source; many apps from android can be easily ported to it. It is just my opinion though.
To be honest I see android going the route of Linux. Only true enthusiasts will hold on to it as they don't mind tinkering to make it work right. WP and IOS will be the OS of the average person as it will just work for what they want. Ubuntu will see problems at first with open source as not all things for a mobile device can or will be made open source leading to big kernel and hardware issues. Only time will tell.
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To be honest I see android going the route of Linux. Only true enthusiasts will hold on to it as they don't mind tinkering to make it work right. WP and IOS will be the OS of the average person as it will just work for what they want. Ubuntu will see problems at first with open source as not all things for a mobile device can or will be made open source leading to big kernel and hardware issues. Only time will tell.
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I have to disagree with you. I think the years of Linux based operating systems being considered too complicated for the average user are over. Android is incredibly popular internationally and seems to work just fine for average users. Also, I feel the average user base of all technologies aren't as technically illiterate as the previous generations. This is, after all, the age of the Internet.
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I have to disagree with you. I think the years of Linux based operating systems being considered too complicated for the average user are over. Android is incredibly popular internationally and seems to work just fine for average users. Also, I feel the average user base of all technologies aren't as technically illiterate as the previous generations. This is, after all, the age of the Internet.
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We will see but to be honest it is not a matter of how much people can do but how much they want to do. Linux will always be considered a beta due to needing to build fixes on ones own. Take my set up. To get Linux to work I have to build my own LAN card driver for it to work as there none available for it. This is the same when carriers EOL devices after a few months and only Nexus devices are sure to get updated. The average person will not want to have to build an AOSP rom on their own just to get an update or deal with the bugs of custom roms. Remember here we are the .01% of phone customers. I have spent the past 5 years on cellular sales and have seen the way things go. Nothing I have seen has shown me it will be any different then the last few times a new OS has come out. Yes it is popular right now but will it stand the test of time? Only time will tell. If you agree or disagree we will know in a few years.
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I would love to see more independent operating systems thrive. However, i don't imagine wanting to go out to get a Firefox Os phone or ubuntu phone for myself since I spent so much money on the Android ecosystem
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To be honest I see android going the route of Linux. Only true enthusiasts will hold on to it as they don't mind tinkering to make it work right. WP and IOS will be the OS of the average person as it will just work for what they want. Ubuntu will see problems at first with open source as not all things for a mobile device can or will be made open source leading to big kernel and hardware issues. Only time will tell.
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This. Android's openess and customizability is both its blessing and curse. It was great when it was new and I was happy that i could rearrange every pixel, tinker with everything. But then I have grown tired of all that options and possibilities plus with every new phone it became necessary to tweak options, flash custom roms etc just to make it work right. So I jumped WIndows Phone platform. And it was refreshing. Everything was simple, fast and the thing just worked. Now I have lumia 920 with WP8 and I don't miss openess of android at all. My phone works great out of the box and that's what I like.
I really don't get why people claim android is complicated.
What do you base this on? The fact we can have widgets?
You all talk about the average user base and one thing holds true for them, they don't flash customs and they frankly don't care about it.
Android is a great user experience just like iOS and WP8, and the Linux kernel isn't radically different from the others.
The reason Linux distros aren't popular in the eyes of the average user is because the teams and companies behind them haven't got the resources that Google, Samsung, Apple and Microsoft etc have.
It's that simple, and that simple reason will ensure Androids place in the world for years to come.
Frankly, you don't have a clue.
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I really don't get why people claim android is complicated.
What do you base this on? The fact we can have widgets?
You all talk about the average user base and one thing holds true for them, they don't flash customs and they frankly don't care about it.
Android is a great user experience just like iOS and WP8, and the Linux kernel isn't radically different from the others.
The reason Linux distros aren't popular in the eyes of the average user is because the teams and companies behind them haven't got the resources that Google, Samsung, Apple and Microsoft etc have.
It's that simple, and that simple reason will ensure Androids place in the world for years to come.
Frankly, you don't have a clue.
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No I base it on hundreds of people a week that I see and question on all things smartphone. Most people don't even use Widgets. They just use shortcuts to what they want.
As for Ubuntu you are very wrong. The average person just doesn't want to deal with command line entries and having to figure things out on their own.
Now I have been doing mobile support and hacking for almost a decade so becarefull who you say doesn't have a clue.
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Your point on Ubuntu was my point about the teams behind it not having the resources they need.
It's unpopular, along with any other distro because it just doesn't work.
Why? Lack of resources.
Take for example the X display manager, it's decades olds, and its replacement was supposed to be here two years ago, it's still one or two years away.
Where big companies making android, iOS, Windows differentiate themselves from that is in their ability to really make something great and keep it up to date.
That is why OSes like android will stay popular despite the moronic claim someone had of "being on a Linux kernel means certain doom."
Edit. Ah that was you.
You probably don't even know the difference between a distro and a kernel...
Ubuntu is a distro, Linux is the kernel it is based on. Looking around you either in your house or where you work, most tech will be based on the Linux kernel.
Everyone from governments to huge companies financially backs the development of the Linux kernel. It is the most sophisticated to date.
And your claim about people not utilizing androids potential is silly, even my mother likes widgets and other stuff on her android, and she's completely useless when it comes to tech. In fact she barely touches her iPad anymore.
Lets not forget the fact stuff like TouchWiz "dumbs down" the android experience by quite a bit.
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Since Android and IOS are tow most used OSes with big advantage, new OSes fight for third place, that OSes i would like to try is Firefox OS and Ubuntu Phone
Some companies on Brazil have signed contract with Mozilla to launch low/mid-cost devices based on Firefox OS, so test one should be easy, but besides of price, i like the way it works, based on HTML5.
Ubuntu Phone in my think will win third place, it can be run side by side with android, which can be installed on lot of new hardware.
I dont know if it´s possible or viable, but Ubuntu/Linux have tons and tons of opensource programs that can be ported to ARM, if that is true, Ubuntu will not have the leak of apps like Windows Phone and others OSes may have.
Windows phone 8 might have a change and I think BlackBerry or Nokia will adopt Ubuntu Mobile to save their life.
If Microsoft finally connects Windows and Windows Phone branch to be able running same apps, it's gonna be big I think... Maybe it'll come with Windows Blue update? Maybe later? But it must finally!?