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[NEWS] HTC Sense 3.0 "officialy" announced for Desire S

Hi all,
I just have read a post that makes me feel "HAPPY"! HTC will very likely officially deploy Sense 3.0 for our lovely Desire S. This was a post from HTC on the official turkish facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/htctr/posts/188533611215197).
Has anybody an idea if this is really true?

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check this a similar post which was made back in june
so i doubt that sense 3.0 is coming officially
but we already have fully functional sense 3.0 ROMs which are much much better than stock ROM so even if sense 3.0 is released i think its a bit late
but still ,if its true then its good news for the non-rooted people
i think we are more likely to get sense 3.5 as it was made for wvga screens & runs on the bliss with lower processor speed

Changed my mind on Sense 3.5!
kartkk said:
edit:
check this a similar post which was made back in june
so i doubt that sense 3.0 is coming officially
but we already have fully functional sense 3.0 ROMs which are much much better than stock ROM so even if sense 3.0 is released i think its a bit late
but still ,if its true then its good news for the non-rooted people
i think we are more likely to get sense 3.5 as it was made for wvga screens & runs on the bliss with lower processor speed
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I've changed my mind - I'm know that I'm not a woman - but I'm still permitted to do so!
I have this new opinion since yesterday when I installed the new BEat Mod Bliss v1.6, and can now say that I've properly tried sense 3.5 and I now love it, its much slicker then sense 3 and looks much nicer.....I can see than the leak we have isn't 100% quite yet....but can't wait for the next one and if the cook keeps working with this release than that's magic.
I don't think that the leaked Sense 3.5 low quality screen shoots did it any favours, previously the only pictures that I've seen had backgrounds that I personally found dis-tasteful (no offense meant) just my opinion.
So it put me off - but having got my hands on it for a couple of hours and played with it now and like it !
Afraid still going back to LBC for daily use for now.....but I can see the future and it's sense 3.5 shaped bye bye sense 3.0!

ben_pyett said:
I've changed my mind - I'm know that I'm not a woman - but I'm still permitted to do so!
I have this new opinion since yesterday when I installed the new BEat Mod Bliss v1.6, and can now say that I've properly tried sense 3.5 and I now love it, its much slicker then sense 3 and looks much nicer.....I can see than the leak we have isn't 100% quite yet....but can't wait for the next one and if the cook keeps working with this release than that's magic.
I don't think that the leaked Sense 3.5 low quality screen shoots did it any favours, previously the only pictures that I've seen had backgrounds that I personally found dis-tasteful (no offense meant) just my opinion.
So it put me off - but having got my hands on it for a couple of hours and played with it now and like it !
Afraid still going back to LBC for daily use for now.....but I can see the future and it's sense 3.5 shaped bye bye sense 3.0!
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im testing sense 3.5 now too & i can also say that its much better than on the screenshots
but i still prefer sense 3.0 because it looks more transparent
but the animation on sense 3.5 are too good ,i think i will be switching to sense 3.5 once there are some glass like transparent skins
btw does anyone know what the charm option under settings on sense 3.5 is about?

Opinion on Sense 3.5/3.6 on top of ICS

Greetings to all developers and super users, I'm just eager to know what are your opinions on the latest SenseUI on top of ICS.
In my opinion, the Sense 3.5 is just not made for ICS at all. It's just an emergency move made by HTC team to release Sense for ICS. This is due to other platforms which quickly developed their patch ICS upgrade for their devices. I't just an 'emergency landing' for HTC.
In Sense 3.6 they've fixed some minor stuff in 3.5 which doesn't fit well together with the ICS framework. BUt still, how the SenseUI in ICS gave an impression to me is that IT IS NOT WELL CONCEPTED! Not as beautiful as Sense 3.0 in GB compared to other manufaturers' UI.
So I'm just saying that I am really eager to see Sense 4.0 for ICS in the near future.
What say you guys?

if HTC had actually given it a bit more AOSP style to Sense with ICS, then it might be ok....but as it, it actually looks like poop in my honest opinion...hence I now run Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.0

True, I think at the moment, Mathias' design concept is more mature than HTC's. But the fact is that many feature in ICS is already adopted since Sense 3.0. So I think that Sense 4.0 will be a blast again

sense is awful... that is just my opinion

I don't mind a little bit of sense (Some comes in handy sometimes) but they basically killed the beauty of ICS with there **** sense overlay. At least color stuff correctly. It looks very hurried and just glued together on htcs part. With that said virtuous Inq took out all the crappy junk that HTC put in and made it great again.

I'm actually considering a move to Virtuous ROM. Because it's the best AOSP so far I saw plus everyone's been using that.
I agreed with the glued part. It is really like just glued in a hurry. Not like the usual SENSEUI..

Yes sense 4.0 will totally change Ics UI....we have to wait some days.

The question is WHEN...
there are some leaks about it.. but not convincing enough...
Just hope it will be epic as ever ^^

sense 3.5/3.6 doesnyt really fit to ics, htc got to rethink their vision of new sense, but first news gives us hope that htc has right direction
on the other hand i can't work without sense, its the most complex launcher and i've tried working without it, but it was pointless, always comming back to sense

Personally,i just want aosp based rom. I hate Sense and always did dating back from my old Wildfire lol.
Using HyperSense CM7 ATM

ok, after I tried using Virtuous 3.0.0, I decided to go back to ARHD.
reason??
Because after using the AOSP based ROM, I realized how Sense made life easier. Although I must say that the AOSP has better design than Sense 3.5/4.6, but there are still some functions which Sense came really handy with.
So mean while, I'm coming back to ARHD ^^

It's insulting. 3.6 is such a minor "upgrade" to 3.5 while 4.0 is a massive upgrade (no quotes) to 2.3.x, putting that ****lick overlay on top of AOSP totally kills it. That, and the gray color scheme introduced in 3.5 is aweful, it's so dull. Sense 3.0 is the last decent Sense.

I agree, actually maybe Sense 3.0 was so great is because it has huge improvement from the previous Sense.

I would love to have ICS stock camera app in htc sense..

i think sense 3.6 is just a quick update to shut all of us up about wanting ICS
after some time we'll get a better sense version...
remember sense 2.1? it was absolutely the same in froyo and gingerbread but when HTC announced the sensation it was rocking sense 3.0 and everyone was drooling over it

While the first pictures and videos of ICS emerged, I told my self "nah, that can't be it. They said they where about to make it look better... "
When ICS was officially announced, I was deeply disappointed, that it really looked as ugly as it did in the leaked versions.
So I'm really enjoying sense 3.6, even if I had hoped for more.
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Personally Im not really looking forward to ICS with Sense 3.6. ICS is one thing but IMO Sense 3.6 isnt exactly different from Sense 3. The only thing I like about 3.6 is its camera but it isnt really a make or break decision for me.
If HTC rolls out ICS and Sense 4.0 for Sensation sometime later, I do hope they'll have better camera features (not over Sense 3 of course, even 3.6 camera trumps over 3.0 lol)

But I think Sense 3.6 is a compensation of ICS design. Because the original ICS has no menu button and Sensation has menu button.

So, who want's to see some Sense 4.0 with ICS

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-ville-caught-on-video-with-sense-4-0-31211379/
I don't like it. HTC must have been high out of their minds to take Sense this far. The animations are unnecessary.

I agree, Im not really liking it. The dockbar, IMO, looks like garbage. All those animations seems like it lags the UI as well

the animation is nice. but i don't like the launcher, sense's 3.xx launcher is better that.

I like the animations. The dock and the actual device are ugly. Sucks. HTC messed up on this one. For sure il be getting the amaze instead now. I rather have sense 3.0 on android 4.0.

coupetastic-droid said:
I like the animations. The dock and the actual device are ugly. Sucks. HTC messed up on this one. For sure il be getting the amaze instead now. I rather have sense 3.0 on android 4.0.
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Why if you can just root it an hopefully downgrade lol

i honestly do like thgis sense. i mean sure the launcher is a bit iffy but i like it and if it gets ported to our phone i wont mind using it as a DD

O__o what happened????
Software: it doesn't even look like Sense anymore...
i agree, the animations, while nice, look like they hog a bunch of memory, and aren't necessary... if it lags on a device like that, imagine how it would run on our Glacier..LOL
Hardware: reminds me of the Galaxy Nexus, specially from the side lol
it doesn't look as pro and nice as the Sensation... i mean.. wow.. single LED light? the Sensation has two...
much rather get the Sensation instead.
quite disappointed... hope HTC changes it before the official release.

Eww ugly
I'm a Rom Flip Flopper

I was concerned that Sense 4.0 would look too much like previous versions and not allow enough of ICS' great UI to show through. The leaked video was a pleasant surprise!
I like the new status bar, clock/weather widget, and dockbar. All three are a nice change from previous versions which were pretty close to identical going from the Cupcake version of Sense that came out on the Hero all the way up to Sense 3.5 on the Runnymede and Rezound. Finally something different!
Like most people I did not at all like the needless animation in the Settings window, but I'd still be interested in running 4.0 on the MT4G or any future device.

Not a big fan of Sense in general, but it does seem HTC has gone overboard with this one. The phone itself looks pretty sleek though, wonder how cool it would be running AOSP ICS.

I haven't seen the video yet, I'm throttled, but judging by the comments. It's possible that it's just a beta or something, I'm just guessing.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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I actually like it, it sure looked like a beta to me. There is no way HTC is going to release something that laggy
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I think it looks pretty good. I definitely like the new launcher. I hated the rosie dock.

I thought it looked pretty cool. Cant wait to see a finished product

I could care less about the lag; it's the UI itself that annoys me. This has resource hog written all over it. And, Sense got uglier. All this resource rape is unnecessary; people have made exact replicas of Sense using images and other widgets, and it uses a ****lot less resources than Sense's framework (not to mention, the framework is modded to hell). HTC is just getting unnecessary now.

I think HTC should of just watered it down, a lot. Keeps beats and add universal support. Animations are nice so keep those, and have HTC Widgets, and apps and that's it. Stock ICS with minor tweaks.
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GazaIan said:
I could care less about the lag; it's the UI itself that annoys me. This has resource hog written all over it. And, Sense got uglier. All this resource rape is unnecessary; people have made exact replicas of Sense using images and other widgets, and it uses a ****lot less resources than Sense's framework (not to mention, the framework is modded to hell). HTC is just getting unnecessary now.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Sense has so many little touches are throughout the UI...far too many to list. There's no way to replicate the Sense experience with themes and widgets.
It's sort of like generic cola...it tastes ok and a little like real Coke, but there's no way to duplicate genuine ice-cold Coca-Cola Classic (or Pepsi ).

TeeJay3800 said:
I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Sense has so many little touches are throughout the UI...far too many to list. There's no way to replicate the Sense experience with themes and widgets.
It's sort of like generic cola...it tastes ok and a little like real Coke, but there's no way to duplicate genuine ice-cold Coca-Cola Classic (or Pepsi ).
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+100%
you're absolutely right.
people may have made "replicas" of it, but nothing beats the real thing.
just like how those people in China make those fake Android phones/iPhones and sell them

Looks great, but I'll always trade the looks of sense for the responsiveness and better battery life I get from an AOSP or CM build.

After looking at this, if sense REALLY turns out to be that way, I'm hoping some smart guy will make a rom for it without all the needless animations and resource hogging things.
I was really dissapointed that Touchwiz phones were more popular than Sense phones for 2011. I thought HTC would learn from that, but it seems they've gotten worse. I've been kind of excited for a Sense 4.0 rom but now im just probably gonna use my core droid 3.5 rom til my contract is up. If a nexus phone doesnt come to T-mobile... I will be forced to buy the only thing i see good enough....... a galaxy S 3 phone.
btw: I just saw this video today so im late XD.

Sense 5 fail ?

So I just finaly previewed sense 5 thanks to all the ppl who helped port it .
So I only just noticed that they have ruined some of the most defining sense features .
Full screen are widgets virtually gone ....
They left 1 analog clock that's a 1x1 widget , Wtf it that
The new weather widget is totall garbage
The one on the blink feed is ok but you can't set it on your home screen .
Its seems they could of left a lot of the things they removed .
New app drawer also garbage , and why is the weather widget in the app drawer ?
Seems like sense 5 is more of a franken Rom built on a de sensed sense base with crappy windows 8 and android 1.5 features ..
Being a big sense fan , I am truly let down
Anyone else share the same feeling ?
What's your opinion
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first time i saw sense 5 i thought "hey something new, cool" but after seeing it in action on the htc one was enough to tell its a fail (for me, imo).
and i just dont need this news kinda thing, i want my homescreens and more customization which sense never offered yet, to my disappointment.
(like having simple quick settings in drop down like 4.2.2. stock) < my wishes for sense 6/7 lol...
i hope the devs here will do more sense4+ roms, even when sense 5 is truly out =)

i also have same feeling. İf we get a stable base then we can think different. Some widgets can be ported also sense 4+ launcher can be ported its not a big problem right now. But sense 5 is fast butter fast i must say that..
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proxuser said:
i also have same feeling. İf we get a stable base then we can think different. Some widgets can be ported also sense 4+ launcher can be ported its not a big problem right now. But sense 5 is fast butter fast i must say that..
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Good to know I'm not alone ,
Hopefully the Rom community can build sense 4 into sense 5
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dunno why u opened a thread for this
there is already a general thread for sense 5

I feel the same. I dint like it. Who needs all the bloody feeds on their home screen. I can damn google for them whenever needed

IMO, far from it.
I do not like the sense app drawer or launcher in general at all (never have), however, I would be using nova anyway so those things won't be a problem at all.
Blinkfeed looks all right, would never use it though, again not a problem, disable all the sources and swipe to the right or just install a different launcher.
Most of that stuff is easily fixable with 3rd party apps
For me sense V5 is epic for these reasons:
- nicer UI, more minimal and closer to stock android look
- no longer has labels for the icons on the top i.e. menu under the 3 dots
- got rid of the stupid big tabs on the bottom of some sense apps and replaced them with the stock tabs at the top, this will suit are smaller screen/lower res. far better
- zoe and the camera plus the gallery with live tiles/thumbnails are the highlights for me
- less bloated and less heavy so performance should be a bit better and we should get a wee boost in usable storage
- plus it might be more power efficient so better battery life
The person who was wanting quick setting like stock android, the reason sense doesn't have that is because it isn't based on the newest version of JB i.e. 4.2.2, once we get that update (supposedly we are getting the newer version of sense and 4.2.2 not the current one based on 4.1.2) then we will have those quick settings

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We have a sense 5 discussion thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175950
Please continue discussion there.

Sense 5 - what makes it better?

My apologizes to create a new thread about Sense 5 which seems to be a hot and controversial topic right now.
I've got my hands on that controversial ROM with Sense 5 a couple days ago just because I was curious to see what kind of improvements Sense 5 over Sense 4+ will offer.
I don't really want to discuss a ROM itself, only Sense 5 is what interests me at this point.
To be honest I did not like it at all. Sure, it was snappier than my current ViperS 3.1.2 with Sense 4+ but besides Blinkfeed which I hardly care about it did not seem to offer any major improvements...
To me what made Sense and HTC phones preferred choice (besides hardware + design) were Sense looks and widgets that are mostly gone from Sense 5. I rely on mail and messaging widgets daily and also calendar/task widgets with my upcoming appointments have a prominent placement.
Without these I can just install any deSensed ROM on my HTC Sensation and slap any good launcher on top of it to get a similar results...
I know that I am coming late to the party, Sense 5 has been available for ages now, but until today I never had a chance to try it on my beloved Sensation. After my recent experience I will probably stick with Sense 4+ for a very long time because it works really well for me and I have also decided to postpone purchase of a new cellphone (I am still waiting for HTC to introduce a new flagship phone with micro SD slot included - HTC One Max is not what I am looking for).
I would like to hear about what are your thoughts as far Sense 5 is concerned and why should I forget about my favorite Sense 4 widgets...

Im not a Sense fan, but Sense5 should be lighter and faster.

jkolner said:
Im not a Sense fan, but Sense5 should be lighter and faster.
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As I have mentioned in my post, it is definitely snappier (because it's lighter = missing features). Obviously I use specific apps to do what I am trying to accomplish but for me specifically what made Sense attractive choice were widgets that provide needed information with one glance. These missing features in Sense 5 is what makes me to consider abandoning HTC phones all together and try different brand (Sony Z1 looks good to me).
Maybe I should rephrase what I am trying to say... "What makes Sense 5 better then lets say Nova launcher for example?"

I haven't tested one yet, but I LOVE how Sense looks.
I want my phone to look nice too

Nicx59 said:
I haven't tested one yet, but I LOVE how Sense looks.
I want my phone to look nice too
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I wholeheartedly agree, looks of Sense was originally what attracted me to HTC phones in a first place, in my case starting with HTC Diamond. Damn, I am probably getting old :crying: since I still like "retro" Sense 4 design bit more than oversimplified Sense 5 icons. But it's mostly features that I value. My current ViperS 3.1.2 with it's tweaks makes my Sensation an amazing phone. The only thing I was hoping for with Sense 5 was faster, snappier performance without giving up on features.

Just give it some time. The official ViperS Sense 5 (with tweaks) isn't even out yet.
If you're looking for some widgets & features, I think some modders will take care of that.
And well, thank god for custom ROMs we can pretty much have any version of Sense on Sensation. 7 different versions! Damn.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I used the calendar, calculator, music and Notes widget the most, and they're gone from Sense 5. That's pretty much the only thing I miss, I really don't know why they would throw it out, it was something that differentiated sense from other launchers. Now it's all the same to me.

boleguc said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I used the calendar, calculator, music and Notes widget the most, and they're gone from Sense 5. That's pretty much the only thing I miss, I really don't know why they would throw it out, it was something that differentiated sense from other launchers. Now it's all the same to me.
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That is what I mean...
I have Asus Memo Pad 10, Tegra 3 makes it pretty fast and cost/value is very good as well. I have replaced original (slow) launcher with Nova launcher (currently my favorite) and decided to reduce number of screens to 3 although I might as well do fine with one only.
With general lack of useful widgets my screen is filed with grid of app icons and folders. It begins to resemble Apple products I despise.

boleguc said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I used the calendar, calculator, music and Notes widget the most, and they're gone from Sense 5. That's pretty much the only thing I miss, I really don't know why they would throw it out, it was something that differentiated sense from other launchers. Now it's all the same to me.
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Venom sense 5 have many widgets like calendar ,music ,gmail,contact ,old clock and new clock too so don't worry once we get full working sense 5 we other dev might be able to port those other remaining widgets too like note .btw what other widgets u want whether u don't need in sense 5 as u can see it everywhere ,friendsstreem u also don't need that cause of blink feed ,which r the remaining (most of them on sense 4 r useless)
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Harbir said:
Venom sense 5 have many widgets like calendar ,music ,gmail,contact ,old clock and new clock too so don't worry once we get full working sense 5 we other dev might be able to port those other remaining widgets too like note .btw what other widgets u want whether u don't need in sense 5 as u can see it everywhere ,friendsstreem u also don't need that cause of blink feed ,which r the remaining (most of them on sense 4 r useless)
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You think those widgets can be ported? I know when I was on the desire forums that some had tried to port some widgets from GB sense 3.6 to earlier sense, but I don't think they managed to that. Hope it will be possible

boleguc said:
You think those widgets can be ported? I know when I was on the desire forums that some had tried to port some widgets from GB sense 3.6 to earlier sense, but I don't think they managed to that. Hope it will be possible
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I saw widgets ported for HTC One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325837
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365955
Hopefully we can get them for Sensation also...

czguy said:
I saw widgets ported for HTC One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325837
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365955
Hopefully we can get them for Sensation also...
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Great, hope we'll get them as well.

I Like Sense 5 but.....
I like Sense 5, but I misse old Dial, I think is better sense 4+

Blinkfeed of sense 5 is useless. It's usable in sense 5.5 only, because there you can finally customize the sources to be displayed.
So if the only or main reason to switch to sense 5 is just blinkfeed then there's no reason, because you won't use it much.
I wish that sense 5.5 porting would be feasible

I may have misunderstood the OP but all of these are in Sense 5.
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Noob_Friendly_Nerd said:
sense5 for sensation
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You do realize that sharing that here isn't allowed, right? ._.
And even that KangSense has a few bugs.. I think it's like Team Venoms old build, which another developer 'stole' and fixed a little.
I'm gonna wait for Team Venom's official.

Nicx59 said:
You do realize that sharing that here isn't allowed, right? ._.
And even that KangSense has a few bugs.. I think it's like Team Venoms old build, which another developer 'stole' and fixed a little.
I'm gonna wait for Team Venom's official.
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You can share anything as long as it is not warez. At the end of the day until someone has PROOF it is team venom rom then it's allowed to be shared
I only shared so people can flash to get a taste of sense 5 that's all.

Noob_Friendly_Nerd said:
You can share anything as long as it is not warez. At the end of the day until someone has PROOF it is team venom rom then it's allowed to be shared
I only shared so people can flash to get a taste of sense 5 that's all.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487128&highlight=kingsense

Noob_Friendly_Nerd said:
sense5 for sensation
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That ROM is not allowed to be posted here as it is a kang of Team Venom ROM and kanging us not tolerated here.
Posting a link to it again will cause me to take things further next time.
Please be sure this is the last time it happens.
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Does sense 5 has interactive notifications like aosp jb roms?
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