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Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, basically I bought my desire s a few weeks ago and managed to root it, then added a Rom. However I believe I need to put back a stock Rom as it needs returning owing to a faulty speaker where I can't hear it ring, the output is getting worse each day. So basically I need to know which Rom and how to do it. I have tried searching but come to a dead end, lots of help for the desire but not my desire s. Many thanks in advance.
I'm sure I saw a thread knocking about in this forum where someone described the process of returning the phone completely back to s-on stock state, but I can't seem to find it myself now either.
Iirc though, restoring back to a stock rom and kernel may be enough to override the hboot and make it s-on and without root. There's something somewhere about flashing a stock hboot I'm sure.
Sorry I can't be more help than that.
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You need to look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
This will over ride your alpharev hboot with an Eng S off hboot flash it via bootloader or Android flasher 1.8
Once you have done this you can flash an official ruu which remove your s-off and root status
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1113820
tnx very useful
craig1965 said:
You need to look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
This will over ride your alpharev hboot with an Eng S off hboot flash it via bootloader or Android flasher 1.8
Once you have done this you can flash an official ruu which remove your s-off and root status
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When I try this method, bootloader says bypassed?
Any ideas.
chill...............
Ok this is how I did it I download this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15493125&postcount=1
On my lap top I extracted the zip file
Then put your phone in fastboot making sure it says fastboot usb then run Android flasher 1.8 chose hboot and browse for the .img file you extracted from the zip file earlier if all goes well you will be eng s- off then you can reflash an ruu
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You can also follow this if you find it easier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
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Hi all,
I searched everywhere and read everything about this, but it seems to be a little confusion yet
I would flash the new Sensation XE ICS RUU, but firstly I have many question:
1. I didn't do Super CID on my Sensation (regular, not XE, not 4G), must be done? I'm already S-OFF with Revolutionary.io tool and I can flash whatever ROM do I want.
2. If I doesn't like anything can I return back on 1.17.1111 HBOOT?
3. What are the requisites before flashing?
4. IT IS SAFE?
5. Anyone flashed that? Can you tell me some tips or perhaps warnings?
Sorry for being noob. I repeat: I read everything in this forum, but before flashing I want to make sure of everything twice.
Hello, I'am new in this forum: I have htc sensation xe, full originally, S-ON....ecc..
also I too am still confused:
1)Can I try the ICS Ruu with htc sensation xe S-ON?
2)If what is the procedure to do this?
Thanks in advance and sorry for being noob.
Philips9 said:
1)Can I try the ICS Ruu with htc sensation xe S-ON?
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I don't think you can only "try". Maybe once you flash that RUU you can't reflash older RUUs back.
I'm not sure if you need super Cid completed. I have done it, since in the flashing forum, it is one of the steps to follow. I believe it is needed to flash rims to do with different carriers.
When you root your phone, go into clockworkmod recovery and backup your rom. The you can flash ics Tom and return to yourl original if you wish.
That is what I did. The ice roms. Are fairly laggy atm, so I revert back. Hope this helps
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dealad said:
I'm not sure if you need super Cid completed. I have done it, since in the flashing forum, it is one of the steps to follow. I believe it is needed to flash rims to do with different carriers.
When you root your phone, go into clockworkmod recovery and backup your rom. The you can flash ics Tom and return to yourl original if you wish.
That is what I did. The ice roms. Are fairly laggy atm, so I revert back. Hope this helps
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I didn't talk simply about any ROM, but an entire RUU.
Piplos said:
Hi all,
I searched everywhere and read everything about this, but it seems to be a little confusion yet
I would flash the new Sensation XE ICS RUU, but firstly I have many question:
1. I didn't do Super CID on my Sensation (regular, not XE, not 4G), must be done? I'm already S-OFF with Revolutionary.io tool and I can flash whatever ROM do I want.
2. If I doesn't like anything can I return back on 1.17.1111 HBOOT?
3. What are the requisites before flashing?
4. IT IS SAFE?
5. Anyone flashed that? Can you tell me some tips or perhaps warnings?
Sorry for being noob. I repeat: I read everything in this forum, but before flashing I want to make sure of everything twice.
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If you are on a Sensation (non XE) then yes you should need supercid as you are installing a rom not of your carrier. Here is the way you can test. Download it and try to flash it. It will not let you if it has a CID issue then you SuperCID.
2 - Yup just flash the hboot from an earlier rom
3 - Check this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414243
4 - Yes and no. If you mess up doing SuperCID you have a chance of bricking your phone but if you follow the instructions you should be fine.
5 - I haven't but across ARHD, Virtuous, RCMix, etc I have seen many who have and are up and running.
So I that I can try the sensation XE ICS RUU without the super-CID and with HTC sensation XE original and witouth root(S-ON)?
Then to return to the starting point (Android 2.3.4 and sense 3.0 original ) just reinstall the original RUU(RUU_Pyramid_LE_HTC_Europe_1.73.401.4_Radio_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2_release_220036_signed) from here:filefactory.com/f/c87a2330449af512/?
thanks in andvance
If you are S-ON do NOT - under ANY circumstances - flash the RUU
If you do you will NOT be able to downgrade to a previous RUU as you won't be able to S-OFF your handset. You will be stuck with it until such time as Revolutionary works with the new HBOOT (if at all)
You have been warned...
EddyOS said:
If you are S-ON do NOT - under ANY circumstances - flash the RUU
If you do you will NOT be able to downgrade to a previous RUU as you won't be able to S-OFF your handset. You will be stuck with it until such time as Revolutionary works with the new HBOOT (if at all)
You have been warned...
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ok thanks for the advice;
but if you reinstall the RUU: RUU_Pyramid_LE_HTC_Europe_1.73.401.4_Radio_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2_release_220036_signed
I reinstall the previous hboot and then I can not in any way to unlock your phone (S-OFF)?
First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
serega12 said:
Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.
I currently have a desires s (S-ON, not-rooted and bootloader unlocked), I am not sure if I should downgrade to hboot 0.98 as S-OFF for this is not available right now and as the title says I want you all to tell me what to do !
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
(kinda new to all this so I don't know if I am being a noob, but I seriously need your reply on this)
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I can tell you what i did:
I unlocked my bootloader at htcdev right away when i got my desire s, then got superuser access to my phone. It was pretty fun, but I couldn't do EVERYTHING Plus, I lost parts of my warranty.
I really wanted s-off to be able to flash all roms available.
After a month or so, i did a downgrade of the hboot, with this instructions.
It worked flawlessly, although it's an hour of work or so if you're new to android. Terminal/ADB looks weird and complicating at first, but hey, you just need to copy the lines off the tutorial, it works perfect if you do as told
My advice: DON'T unlock at HTCdev (gives yo FULL warranty, even if you flash a custom rom), and just simply follow the downgrade instructions. Then you'll have full access, full warranty and no limitations at all, it's absolutely worth the downrade/s-off!
I'm running ICS now and couldn't be happier with my phone!
First of all thank you for your help on this, even I have had the same thought that its better to downgrade my phone and S-OFF it rather than keeping it S-ON.
Btw I came across anouther doubt which I guess its better to ask here instead of creating a new thread every time, : if I have to use an ruu to downgrade ny device, should my current radio (as seen in bootloader) match the ruu's radio ??
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No
Have changed my Rom twice not touched the radio firmware at all.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, also read on xda somewhere radio firmware is a local thing it may work in your area but not mine
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13th Dev said:
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
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IMO, there is not much need for you to flash radio.. most of the time you won't need to do so..
and HBoot version can be changed if you are S-Off..
but i have to disagree with your statement that if you don't S-Off you are not able to flash all custom roms.. yes, some may fail to boot up, but mostly they will boot up without problem..
I am currently at the same Hboot as you, HTCDev unlocked and i have tried many roms without problem..
the only thing about having S-On for me is that i will always be dependant on my computer to flash ROM.. other than that, there's no problem generally.. Oh, maybe there is one thing, HTC may know that your phone has already been unlocked since you are using their unlocker.. but there are some ways to relock it and restore the "RELOCKED" in bootloader to "LOCKED"..
I am a newbie, and that's why i unlocked it with HTCDev, but if i were to do it all over again, i would have spend few more days to learn how to downgrade the Hboot and S-Off instead.. you can always flash newer Hboot later anyway..
So my advice, don't worry so much about the radio, or the Hboot version (you can tweak that later) at the moment, then downgrade the Hboot and S-Off it..
IMO it's much better than using HTC unlocker..
thank you guys for all your help and advice, finally after spending a couple of days,I successfully downgraded hboot 2.00.0002 to .98 one.
once again, thankyou all
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I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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13th Dev said:
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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I have successfully S-Off my DS from HTC Unlock using the method by Skanob, it's pretty straight forward and noob-proof.. (not that you need that now ) and can be used to revert back to stock, S-On, Locked (not Re-locked) if you ever need to repair..
As for Hboot, i have upgraded the Hboot to Eng Hboot 7.00.1002 (the one you mentioned above) so that would be my recommendation, too!
doghous said:
I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
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Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
anchemis said:
ENG v7.xx.xxxx
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This one isn't an eng hboot. Better use 2.00.2002
anchemis said:
Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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A good question actually, even I have the same doubt and would really appreciate if someone could post the answer !
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This is what I've gathered from forum trawling...
v0.98.xxxx: the original hboot for 1.x roms
Has the partitions: /system, /cache, /data (all ext3 or ext4)
Fastboot support, supports Revolutionary S-OFF
ENG v0.98.xxxx: engineering version of above
v2.00.2002: the new hboot for 2.x roms (Sense 3.0 etc.)
Has the partitions: /system, /system/lib, /cache, /data (all ext4)
NOT supported by Revolutionary
-> apparently, some Sense 3.0+ roms need this new /system/lib partition to work (stability issues), but I'm not sure which ones though...
->Note Revolutionary is NOT supported, so to S-OFF you need to downgrade using TacoRoot, ZergRush/Misc_versions, XTC clip or some other method.
ENG v2.00.xxxx: engineering version of above
RVL v6.98.1000: hboot that comes after you S-OFF with revolutionary
It is of a higher version number so breaks overflashing functionality, so you CANNOT revert to RUU (for warranty returns etc.)
-> Note: This can be overflashed with v6.98.2000 (OverARX), which then allows you to overflash a stock or engineered hboot.
v7.00.1002[\B]: modified 2.00.2000
NOT ENG BOOTLOADER
But are there any real life benefits of one over the other?
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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I got really frustrated with being S-ON and found the HBOOT downgrade instructions dubious so I found someone in my area with an XTC CLIP device and S-Offed the bastard , don't care much about warranty at this point however.
@ste_vald well done there !, having an s-offed device is surely much better
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13th Dev said:
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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No, you should be fine installing most of the ROM's (unless specified otherwise in the OP of the ROM).
However, ENG Hboot is recommended so that if required later you can easily flash new radio's / Hboot.
Thank you, but can't I flash radios on this rev hboot
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No, i believe you can't! You will require an ENG Hboot...
After nandroid restore my stock rom wont boot what to do i try to flash boot.img from fastboot
Phencyclidine said:
After nandroid restore my stock rom wont boot what to do i try to flash boot.img from fastboot
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If you're comming back from a different base,
( cyanogenmod-> sense or the other way around- for example)
You may try to fully wipe your device, before restoring backup
and flashing boot.img
That is anyway what i do in case of troubles
Edit: Nowadays, custom roms- as they mature- are/may be using different bases...
very often even updates of that same rom differ so much,
that full wipe before update becomes our good habit,
and- in many cases- strongly advised practise
Try that all I have 3 HTC sensation , desire s and explorer and only desire make my day hard I find stock ruu try to flash tough fastboot system boot and recovery and than lock bootloader and factory reset or ruu setup and nothing I am so angry maybe I will only destroy this phone and walk away
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Phencyclidine said:
Try that all I have 3 HTC sensation , desire s and explorer and only desire make my day hard I find stock ruu try to flash tough fastboot system boot and recovery and than lock bootloader and factory reset or ruu setup and nothing I am so angry maybe I will only destroy this phone and walk away
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Well, just calm down and start from skratch:
1.lock bootloader
2. Run RUU
A) check pc drivers
B) check if they ( phone and pc) see each other-when phone in fastboot mode
Running RUU is a procedure given to us for granted by manufacturer,
when all else fails- RUU must not, and ussualy does not....
If you- in th mean time- have upgraded bootloader- should find appropriate stock ruu
Belive me it's not my first time to use RUU and adb/fastboot commands but no help
I find only 3 ruu for Europe hboot is 2.00.0002 on this link if you have more pls give me link for other RUU
CID : HTC__032
I use RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed
http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/?dir=Saga
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Phencyclidine said:
I find only 3 ruu for Europe hboot is 2.00.0002 on this link if you have more pls give me link for other RUU
http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/?dir=Saga
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If you please, go to the help thread (you'll find it in Q&A)
Desire s HELP THREAD ask any question....
and ask about it there...
My b****y tab stopped pasting links- sorry,...
Anyway just go there and ask
Now the method of flashing is the same with all desire s phone. Not one of this device has another 'special' way of flashing.
There might be a small chance that u did the flash wrongly. I would suggest that u be specific(right down to the adb command) in the process when flashing the nandroid.
Any chance that u change the hboot since ur last nandroid?
If stock rom is all u wanted, we have many sense rom, even modded stock rom that has been clean(those require specific hboot though).
Now being being led to run a ruu. Are u s-off or unlock? if u are not sure check bootloader.
If you are unlock, check this out. Step 4 shows the the method of flash rom and boot.img from the fastboot.
I will try again I'm unlocked son 4ext classic recovery
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