Hey,
I would like to know if i could get a ROM without ROOT if yes how if no why not
Thanks for your time
mOh19973 said:
Hey,
I would like to know if i could get a ROM without ROOT if yes how if no why not
Thanks for your time
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Yes, simply flash one of the original STOCK ROMs these are all STOCK and therefore not rooted.
[Q] why would you want to?
why do you want a not root rom ???
you can also keep using any of the custom rom just remove superuser.apk from /system/app
and su from /system/bin
that will do the job....
the advantage of using custom rom's is that they have those security holes patched which causes the rooting to occur at the first place.
NOTE : response based on personal opinion and experience. however i have not even touched Desire till now.
laielephant said:
why do you want a not root rom ???
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I just want to change the ROM for a while and when the 2.4 official update arrives return to normal
there will probably be no official 2.4 for the desire.
anyway, why does everbody want to get the ota when OTA custom roms are ready days/weeks before the ota is being pushed out?
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You will receive a thanks from me.
All i'm saying is that i'm bored of the stock ROM but i don't want to get rid of it i just want to change the ROM for a while so i dont want to get in the problem of rooting and leaving the official and then return to stock.
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ok im pretty new to android and this site so don't be to harsh but if i root my evo and flash a different rom will i still get the official ota updates from sprint/htc? and if i accept the update will i just have the stock rom and no root? because i want to flash a gingerbread rom to my evo because i don't feel like waiting for the official update and then when the official update comes i want to get that and loose the root. so if someone can clarify what happens if i accept an update with root+custom rom it would help a lot.
You will no longer receive OTA updates if you use a non-stock version of Android.
Keep in mind, loading a non-stock ROM on your phone will void your warranty. Be sure to unroot your phone and put a stock ROM on it before you return your phone if you have to for any reason.
Ok thanks
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Currently running miui with matrix kernel and I'm looking into flashing a stock gingerbread ROM to receive ics when it is released. I've flashed customs ROMs before but have never gone back to stock. How do I go about doing this? Will I need to reroot my phone? And will I be able to flash a kernel on the stock ROM? Thanks
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I wouldn't worry about it. Someone kind will post it here in a zip file soon after release i would imagine!
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mokflurry said:
Currently running miui with matrix kernel and I'm looking into flashing a stock gingerbread ROM to receive ics when it is released.
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This is not necessary; somebody will almost certainly post a zip of it here you can flash.
mokflurry said:
I've flashed customs ROMs before but have never gone back to stock. How do I go about doing this?
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Flash it just like any other ROM.
mokflurry said:
Will I need to reroot my phone?
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No. As long as you have CWM, you're all set.
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And will I be able to flash a kernel on the stock ROM?
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If someone makes one, sure.
sorry for abusing you thread, mokflurry, but i also have a question regarding requirements for the upcoming ota-update.
i am running stock rom, rooted, with cwm and custom kernel.
regarding the recovery, i already read, that this shouldn't be a problem. can anybody confirm that?
and what about the kernel? will i have to return to complete stock for ota?
thanks in advance!
yours
n00b ;-)
Petarsson said:
sorry for abusing you thread, mokflurry, but i also have a question regarding requirements for the upcoming ota-update.
i am running stock rom, rooted, with cwm and custom kernel.
regarding the recovery, i already read, that this shouldn't be a problem. can anybody confirm that?
and what about the kernel? will i have to return to complete stock for ota?
thanks in advance!
yours
n00b ;-)
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You can be rooted with another recovery, But need stock rom and kernel.
Until and unless you believe that you will be the first one to get the OTA, you need not worry about the OTA. It will be up on XDA as soon as OTA is rolled and you be flashing it even before the OTA is actually is pushed to you
I recently returned to owning a htc sensation. Atm it is on gingerbread 2.3.4 and I was looking forward to upgrading it to ics. However when I checked for updates nothing came up. I have a z710e like I did before and I previously was able to install it on a sensation with that model extension.
Any Suggestions?
Uh, root and install a rom.
I Don't Want To Do That
Then Wait And Hope That The Update Gets Sent To You.
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I Don't Want To Do That
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Rooting and custom Rom really make your device run better all around. Why wouldn't you want to root? You have so many more options and tons of customization on ab rooted device. Personally I couldn't imagine not rooting! You will see, custom roms are much more stable than stock device. On stock I got rebooted and terrible battery, never had that happen on a custom Rom . But it's your choice . If you don't want to root your limited to what you can do. Also you'll be waiting for God knows how long for your update... Choice is yours.
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I Know The Benefits Of Rooting
I Want The Stock This Time For My Own Reasons
Does Someone Have Some Proper Suggestions Regarding My Problem With My Update Not Showing?
Lizman said:
I Know The Benefits Of Rooting
I Want The Stock This Time For My Own Reasons
Does Someone Have Some Proper Suggestions Regarding My Problem With My Update Not Showing?
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We have no idea why it's not showing, it's also out of our hands. If you want to wait for stock, that's fine, but there's really nothing we can do about it. Sorry.
Download The ICS RUU For Your CID And Flash That Way
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
ps.christos said:
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
iElvis said:
I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
redpoint73 said:
Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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marsyeti said:
I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
marsyeti said:
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!
Hello all,
A lurker's first post here.
As the thread title states, HTC has supposedly started pushing Sense 6 to the HTC One Mini in UK (assuming it is also pushing to other countries too). Has anyone have this installed? How does it compare to Sense 6 port ROMs such as InsertCoin?
Currently a Insertcoin user myself, I may backup my ROM and test out HTC's official Sense 6 and provide some user feedback.
Cheers!
tofuboi01 said:
Hello all,
A lurker's first post here.
As the thread title states, HTC has supposedly started pushing Sense 6 to the HTC One Mini in UK (assuming it is also pushing to other countries too). Has anyone have this installed? How does it compare to Sense 6 port ROMs such as InsertCoin?
Currently a Insertcoin user myself, I may backup my ROM and test out HTC's official Sense 6 and provide some user feedback.
Cheers!
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if anyone gets ahold of the update please share with me so i can port tweaks to the base and have a bug free rom...
Thanks Again,
MiniWhooper
xXminiWHOOPERxX said:
if anyone gets ahold of the update please share with me so i can port tweaks to the base and have a bug free rom...
Thanks Again,
MiniWhooper
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Is this the update file that is downloaded prior to install? If so I can help with that, though I may be doing this tomorrow as have some plans today.
Do I flash the stock KK ROM then get the update file? Could possibly do this while watching the Italy/CR game.
Being a IC user, I'll gladly help in any way as thanks to all your work!
Edit - Actually, is it even possible to still receive HTC updates even if i flashed stock again?
tofuboi01 said:
Is this the update file that is downloaded prior to install? If so I can help with that, though I may be doing this tomorrow as have some plans today.
Do I flash the stock KK ROM then get the update file? Could possibly do this while watching the Italy/CR game.
Being a IC user, I'll gladly help in any way as thanks to all your work!
Edit - Actually, is it even possible to still receive HTC updates even if i flashed stock again?
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Yes once its downloaded, dont reboot but find where the OTA.zip is and upload it and share here on XDA so us devs can use it... and you'd most likely have to flash a stock odex KK rom.... but once the download is finished dont install just share and within a few days i can release a fully working sense 6 IC rom updated with the latest tweaks.... if you can somehow get it today ill be very greatful and will push for a quick release just for you helping me.
xXminiWHOOPERxX said:
Yes once its downloaded, dont reboot but find where the OTA.zip is and upload it and share here on XDA so us devs can use it... and you'd most likely have to flash a stock odex KK rom.... but once the download is finished dont install just share and within a few days i can release a fully working sense 6 IC rom updated with the latest tweaks.... if you can somehow get it today ill be very greatful and will push for a quick release just for you helping me.
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It would seem i need to be on hboot 2.19 in order to flash the stock rom on the old partition layout..I really dont feel like subjecting myself through hboot and formatting again when I messed up the phone few weeks ago.
If anyone's on hboot 2.19 and on 4.4.2 stock, please could you provide the OTA.zip for miniwhooper!
Cheers!
tofuboi01 said:
It would seem i need to be on hboot 2.19 in order to flash the stock rom on the old partition layout..I really dont feel like subjecting myself through hboot and formatting again when I messed up the phone few weeks ago.
If anyone's on hboot 2.19 and on 4.4.2 stock, please could you provide the OTA.zip for miniwhooper!
Cheers!
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Do you know how to edit update scripts? If not upload stocks and I'll edit it and then all you have to do is replace it and flash the rom , can't have superCID though you must revert it back to original too
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xXminiWHOOPERxX said:
Do you know how to edit update scripts? If not upload stocks and I'll edit it and then all you have to do is replace it and flash the rom , can't have superCID though you must revert it back to original too
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I didnt know I had downloaded Triggers 4.4.2 stock rooted ROM for the new partition layout, how do I edit the CID again? I should really keep a note of all the edits I do, currently on supercid.
Once I change the CID I can attempt for the OTA file.
EDIT: NVM I found out about changing cid, this is the file I got from the software update:
OTA_M4_UL_K44_SENSE55_MR_HTC_Europe_3.10.401.6-3.10.401.4_release_356961.zip
Doesnt seem to be sense 6...
Let me update and see what happens.
edit 2: tried installing the update file but gave an error on the recovery/installing screen then it rebooted saying system is modified so please revert..
Is this due to being s off? rooted? Any suggestions?
Just checked for updates on my generic UK One Mini, no update to Sense 6, still on 5.5
I'm guessing that since miniwhooper posted saying she is releasing a stock rom tonight that she has a copy of an update file?
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Can u update when u have a custom recovery?
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Can u update when u have a custom recovery?
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I think for official updates you may need the stock recovery? Otherwise the OS will find that your phone software has been modified.
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I think for official updates you may need the stock recovery? Otherwise the OS will find that your phone software has been modified.
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And how do you get your stock recovery back? I have TWRP. :/
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And how do you get your stock recovery back? I have TWRP. :/
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Just search it in the forums or google "htc one mini stock recovery image" and just go from there.
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Just search it in the forums or google "htc one mini stock recovery image" and just go from there.
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Does it matter which version?
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Does it matter which version?
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I don't think which version matters, think there is only 2-3 to select from anyways, I hope you don't receive the 'system is modified' message like I did as that will prevent receiving official updates.
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I don't think which version matters, think there is only 2-3 to select from anyways, I hope you don't receive the 'system is modified' message like I did as that will prevent receiving official updates.
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No new update for me uk edition
Any news about SENSE 6?
I did not find anything about Sense 6 update on HTC UK site:
http://www.htc.com/uk/go/htc-software-updates/
Czechnolog said:
Any news about SENSE 6?
I did not find anything about Sense 6 update on HTC UK site:
http://www.htc.com/uk/go/htc-software-updates/
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It could arrive any moment:
http://llabtoofer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/roadmap.png
Thanks, it looks promising.
I hope it will come ASAP .
Anybody gets Sense 6 update?
As can be seen, most of devices got 4.4.2 update, while HTC One Mini (M4) devices are still waiting. I’m expecting update roll up next week 30.06-06.07 (Monday or Friday).
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Source: http://llabtoofer.com/2014/06/29/htc-software-updates-plan-29-06/