The Boss Lady and I have DIncs that I rooted using Unrevoked's method. She just got a new Charge and I want to make her transition between phones as painless as possible.
I backed up her messages, contacts, apps, and data with Titanium Backup and would really like to copy the backup to the Charge's SD card and restore them there.
Oh, she wants to keep the phone as stock as possible (no custom ROM). Just get it rooted so I can get the access needed to take care of biz on the Charge.
So here come the questions:
1. If I use Odin to (temporarily, I know) flash a custom recovery like Cyanogenmod and use that to flash SU, will that get us root access on subsequent reboots?
2. Has anyone been able to backup messages, contacts, apps, and data on a rooted DInc, using TiBU and restore them on a Charge?
3. I have noticed a lot of mentions of ED1, ED2, and EE4. What's the difference between them and do I need to be careful about these differences in what I plan to do in 1?
Thanks
Oh, and pointing me to threads instead of rehashing explanations are fine by me!
Ed Zachary said:
The Boss Lady and I have DIncs that I rooted using Unrevoked's method. She just got a new Charge and I want to make her transition between phones as painless as possible.
I backed up her messages, contacts, apps, and data with Titanium Backup and would really like to copy the backup to the Charge's SD card and restore them there.
Oh, she wants to keep the phone as stock as possible (no custom ROM). Just get it rooted so I can get the access needed to take care of biz on the Charge.
So here come the questions:
1. If I use Odin to (temporarily, I know) flash a custom recovery like Cyanogenmod and use that to flash SU, will that get us root access on subsequent reboots?
2. Has anyone been able to backup messages, contacts, apps, and data on a rooted DInc, using TiBU and restore them on a Charge?
3. I have noticed a lot of mentions of ED1, ED2, and EE4. What's the difference between them and do I need to be careful about these differences in what I plan to do in 1?
Thanks
Oh, and pointing me to threads instead of rehashing explanations are fine by me!
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1. the recovery is CWM or ClockWorkMod and yes you can Odin it and if you flash superuser it will give you permanent root access until you wipe the phone or Odin something else
2. Backups from one phone to another through TiBu should be fine, as long as no system data is backed up... if you want to make backups of phone numbers just export a copy of your phonebook to your sd card (easier that way and it'll always be on your sd card in case of data loss), and use Titanium Backup to restore apps/data (not any system data though) and everything else (probably not settings either)
3. ED1 was the version of 2.2 Froyo that the Charge shipped with, ED2 is an update, and EE4 is the latest up to date official version that is on stock phones... you'll notice most, if not all, Froyo roms are EE4 based
anoninja118 said:
1. the recovery is CWM or ClockWorkMod and yes you can Odin it and if you flash superuser it will give you permanent root access until you wipe the phone or Odin something else
2. Backups from one phone to another through TiBu should be fine, as long as no system data is backed up... if you want to make backups of phone numbers just export a copy of your phonebook to your sd card (easier that way and it'll always be on your sd card in case of data loss), and use Titanium Backup to restore apps/data (not any system data though) and everything else (probably not settings either)
3. ED1 was the version of 2.2 Froyo that the Charge shipped with, ED2 is an update, and EE4 is the latest up to date official version that is on stock phones... you'll notice most, if not all, Froyo roms are EE4 based
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Oh come on, you have to let me answer at least a FEW questions
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Thanks, anon.
Yeah, ClockWorkMod. You'd think that after 30+ years of developing software I'd be better at keeping nomenclature straight.
kvswim, don't feel bad... Tell you what, help out a visually-attuned, sweaty-palmed rooter and post screen shots of the process!
(Sorry. I know, that was mean...)
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Thanks, anon.
Yeah, ClockWorkMod. You'd think that after 30+ years of developing software I'd be better at keeping nomenclature straight.
kvswim, don't feel bad... Tell you what, help out a visually-attuned, sweaty-palmed rooter and post screen shots of the process!
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Er, gonna be in the car for 14 hours
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Ed Zachary said:
Thanks, anon.
Yeah, ClockWorkMod. You'd think that after 30+ years of developing software I'd be better at keeping nomenclature straight.
kvswim, don't feel bad... Tell you what, help out a visually-attuned, sweaty-palmed rooter and post screen shots of the process!
(Sorry. I know, that was mean...)
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if you search here or on youtube there's a guy named 'kraisydave' or something that makes video tutorials
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
Yeah. Just yankin' kvswim's chain...
lmao
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
It might also be worth noting that under what I would consider"normal" usage, the serious charge devours battery life... It's very common after a full charge (see what i did there?) To fully drain it in about 6 hours time without changing settings...
My definition of normal is maybe an hour of total talk time per day, texting constantly, receiving email, browsing the web a few times, maybe snapping a picture or two, downloading an app, playing one round of a game like angry birds, and letting it stay on 4g/3g without switching to wifi...
Today is different, as I have left wifi on all day, use google voice to make and receive calls on wifi, and done more than what ki just described and I am running over twelve hours of battery...and am still at 35%...
Just my two cents...
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Is it possible with the Epic? My MicroUSB port is broken and I don't know how to flash the phone back to stock (removing root, restoring stock apps) and I've got limited time to do this before I can take the phone back to the Sprint store for replacement. I'm searching feverantly, but everything takes me to flashing using Odin, via USB to PC, etc. I just need to know if I can get a DG27 (that's what I'm still running) update.zip file put onto my SD card and let the phone flash itself via the stock recovery console. Can it be done?
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/and...-back-to-stock-without-usb/msg94685/#msg94685
Found this, but it's for the Moment and I'm running an Epic.
I have returned my phones to stock as well when dealing with warranty/insurance, but does it matter if you are having a hardware issue like that? Would they consider it a breach of contract or something?
Of course, if my phone sustained minimal damage and I needed to replace it, there's always totally breaking it...
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I have returned my phones to stock as well when dealing with warranty/insurance, but does it matter if you are having a hardware issue like that? Would they consider it a breach of contract or something?
Of course, if my phone sustained minimal damage and I needed to replace it, there's always totally breaking it...
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Unfortunately, it sounds like you're sol... you could remove all the root stuff like superuser.apk, but you'd still have the recovery to deal with
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Replacement
You should call your local rep and ask about the terms of exchange. I had a moment and exchanged for the epic and my rep said that software didn't matter. Basically, if it still looks new, they should take it. This is for the 30 day exchange. Are you getting it replaced or exchanging it?
I've tried to make "friends" with the people at the local Sprint stores for issues like this. Since I was about 2 weeks past my 30 exhange window, I got sent from the store that I purchased it from to another store that does more warranty work. Ends up the guy there is someone I had met before at a completely different store back when I had my Moment...nice guy, roots his phones, gave me tons of free paid apps, etc. In the end, apparently Sprint changed their warranty replacement program (again) and he was forced to charge me $35 I won't get the phone till midweek, but I'm justifying the costs in my head by talking with him since he's going to allow me to use some website he's payed onto to be able to download basically any paid app that I want when I return. That means no more Gameloft demos, backup apps, etc...now I get the best of the best.
For those wondering what happened to my phone, I did the Touchstone mod, and while it was working great for a while, apparently too much tension was on the + connection, so it broke right at the joint where the USB connector meets the board...no chance of me fixing that myself. Now my biggest problems are
1) That I'm still rooted, I did a factory wipe on the phone and completely forgot that I deleted a TON of stock apps, including the TW launcher. Once the phone finished it's own wiping, I now have no launcher, so unless someone calls/texts me, I have no phone usage.
2) Since the USB is broken, I don't have a way to charge the phone anymore...and these phones are battery hogs. I've replied on the Touchstone thread to see if I could still use the Touchstone and the battery cover, remove the battery from the phone and charge the battery directly. I know the inherent dangers of over charging, so my only goal is too keep enough of a random charge (maybe a few hours at a time) until the replacement phone arrives.
In the meantime though, I'd still like to see if there is a way to either flash the phone back to stock and/or get a launcher running on the phone again. I have NO launcher now, so hitting the home, menu, etc buttons does absolutely nothing.
Awesome this thread is now about warez
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bluetooth files transfer would have helped
m5james said:
Is it possible with the Epic? My MicroUSB port is broken and I don't know how to flash the phone back to stock (removing root, restoring stock apps) and I've got limited time to do this before I can take the phone back to the Sprint store for replacement. I'm searching feverantly, but everything takes me to flashing using Odin, via USB to PC, etc. I just need to know if I can get a DG27 (that's what I'm still running) update.zip file put onto my SD card and let the phone flash itself via the stock recovery console. Can it be done?
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I don't use my PC when I flash my phone. I use the "ClockWork Mod" and its "ROM Manager" interface (from the market) and the XDA app from the market. Download the ROM's, kernels, and other tweaks through the xda app and flash them in clockwork mod.
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Unfortunately I can't get to anything past the lock screen since I've got no launcher.
kasl33 said:
I don't use my PC when I flash my phone. I use the "ClockWork Mod" and its "ROM Manager" interface (from the market) and the XDA app from the market. Download the ROM's, kernels, and other tweaks through the xda app and flash them in clockwork mod.
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I never installed the Clockwork Mod since it was still having issues with using QuickBoot and not going to recoverry like it was supposed to. I've been in no rush to custom ROM/Kernal this phone, so all I did was root it so I could delete a bunch of the stock apps.
I'm getting a replacement sent to me, should be here mid week. Once 2.2 comes, I'll be waiting for custom things then, but in the meantime, I'm far happier with this phone vs the Moment.
First thing you should -always- do is install clockwork.
The only reason why I didn't is because it doesn't work 100% with QuickBoot, but I guess in this situation I still could have manually gotten to recovery so I could have put a launcher back onto the phone and it wouldn't be a brick sitting on my desk right now. In an effort to preserve battery life, I only turn it on for about 5 minutes, a couple of times a day, to see what calls and texts I miss and then I return them all via my other phone.
My list of to-do's once I get my next phone:
Root (I just need to decide which version again, seems like there are a bunch and I don't know which is best/safest), not delete any apps until I know what I'm doing w/ this phone vs the Moment
Clockwork Revocery
Wifi tether
Launcher Pro
...and I'll probably leave it at that. It should come with DI18 already installed, but I don't want the phone giving me grief (like it did before trying to update since I'm still running DG27 but had a bunch of deleted stock apps) when the 2.2 update finally gets released. I can suffer with having 3 launchers and a bunch of useless Sprint apps for a while I guess
Firon said:
First thing you should -always- do is install clockwork.
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I presume this would be the safest way to go to get everything in one shot?
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...t-and-recovery-1-0-for-windows-osx-and-linux/
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The only reason why I didn't is because it doesn't work 100% with QuickBoot, but I guess in this situation I still could have manually gotten to recovery so I could have put a launcher back onto the phone and it wouldn't be a brick sitting on my desk right now. In an effort to preserve battery life, I only turn it on for about 5 minutes, a couple of times a day, to see what calls and texts I miss and then I return them all via my other phone.
My list of to-do's once I get my next phone:
Root (I just need to decide which version again, seems like there are a bunch and I don't know which is best/safest), not delete any apps until I know what I'm doing w/ this phone vs the Moment
Clockwork Revocery
Wifi tether
Launcher Pro
...and I'll probably leave it at that. It should come with DI18 already installed, but I don't want the phone giving me grief (like it did before trying to update since I'm still running DG27 but had a bunch of deleted stock apps) when the 2.2 update finally gets released. I can suffer with having 3 launchers and a bunch of useless Sprint apps for a while I guess
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Download any rom of your choice place to rom on your sd card. Flash the rom threw CWM.
To put a rom on your sd card since you can't connect your phone to the computer you remove the micro sd card. Your phone should have came with an adapter. Place the adapter with the micro sd card I'm any thing that can read the card if you don't have a card reader on your pc. Place the rom on your sd card install back in your phone the flash
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The only problem with that is I've already said more than once that I don't have CWM installed, I've only got the stock recovery. I explained in the post above when I never got around to installing CWM. My phone is only rooted and running one of Noobnl's kernals, deleted a bunch of stock apps (including TW, hence my problem) and nothing more.
If your still rooted, you can try downloading rom manager and using it to download and install clockwork.
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Fortunately I was able to get a new phone from Sprint. It cost me $35, which ironically is the same price as the Media Dock I should have just gotten instead of trying to do the Touchstone, which is what broke my phone in the first place.
kasl33 said:
I don't use my PC when I flash my phone. I use the "ClockWork Mod" and its "ROM Manager" interface (from the market) and the XDA app from the market. Download the ROM's, kernels, and other tweaks through the xda app and flash them in clockwork mod.
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how do you do that? clockworkmod only updates from .zip, and there of no .zip got dg27. How can I upgrade to dg27 without a pc cuz my pc will not recognize my phone.
Elazgar said:
how do you do that? clockworkmod only updates from .zip, and there of no .zip got dg27. How can I upgrade to dg27 without a pc cuz my pc will not recognize my phone.
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I believe this will fix your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797090
I have not tried this, but I downloaded it a while back as a emergancy measure if I ever needed to.
You should be able to download that zip on your epic and flash it in clockwork no problem.
Good Luck
Ok so I'm wanting to root my inspire. What all do I need to do this? I dl'ed bubbys dl. How do I back my phone up? All my contacts and pics? Lost them once, not wanting to do that again. Titanium backup, do I need it? Paid or free version? Bare with me here, this is my first Android. Been an iPhone user since they came out but it seems its a lot easier to hack them then it is my inspire. I searched around but didn't really see any answers. Thanks in advance
Personally, I'd recommend attn1's Ace Hack Kit over Bubby's, since you'll need it if you ever want to go back to stock s-on, and it has some functionality that bubby's doesn't. I know for backing stuff up, Dropbox works really well. I use that for pics/vids AND contacts (menu>export>move to dropbox folder). I don't think that's the best way to do contacts, but I have never lost one. Titanium Backup is more for apps, but aside from saving you the effort of reconfiguring apps that have logins/preferences or whatever, there isn't much benefit over just reinstalling them from the market.
Ok so with his I cannot go back to stock if I would need too. Didn't know that, thanks. Ill have to find that download then and maybe try that out. Is it as easy as his method? I know there is a YouTube video I watched of his way and seems fairly easy.
And can I use a Mac to root with attn1 way?
#1: The videos are outdated, but "The Effen Manual" that attn1 includes is as easy to follow as it gets.
#2: I don't know, I don't use a Mac, but if you read his thread, I'm sure someone has answered that question.
Yeah I just googled attn1 and saw that he had said the vids are out dated and to read the manual. Also there is a link for osx so ill try that. If it don't work ill just run to best buy and pick up a netbook lol
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Ok so with his I cannot go back to stock if I would need too. Didn't know that, thanks. Ill have to find that download then and maybe try that out. Is it as easy as his method? I know there is a YouTube video I watched of his way and seems fairly easy.
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I don't know that it's necessarily true that you can't go back to S-On if you use bubbys tool to root.
I'm pretty sure there's been instances of people doing it, though it may be that you have to use the hack kit at that point.
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Once you use bubby's you can go back to stock. But yes you do have to use the hack kit to do so. Both give you the same s-off. Bubby's just pushes the commands to your phone in the background instead of you doing it yourself.
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I just used bubby's this morning, have never rooted before and it was rather easy and didn't take too long.
I had to do it twice, however, bc it wouldn't find the SID, stating something about my HTC drivers, so I used a market app to get the code. (Excuse my lack of terminology knowledge!!)
Although I should have, I didn't back up everything; only my images (which I just dropped to my desktop); after successful root everything was gone so I went through the settings "wizard" and made sure to log into HTC and within a few hours my contacts and messages were back.
I didn't want my apps back, so not sure how you back that up.
So I had all the stock apps plus ROM manager and superuser.
Now off to play around some more
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the only problem i have with rooting my phone is actually downloading the hack kit or bubby's one click method. i've turned off all the right things but still nothing. any advice?
thanks
I still didn't root, sorta backed out last night haha. Wouldn't know why I would need to go back to stock once rooted but I guess all is possible. I don't really care about losing my apps, ill just redownload then, its just my pictures and contacts I'm worried about losing. I think I'm going to use bubbys root tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the info. Also there are a bunch of apps I don't use on the phone is there a way to freeze them after root besides getting titanium backup pro? Or does that seem like the best way?
Plus I have a 2gb sdcard. Should I use this one for gold card? And do I need a mobile terminal app for root? If so which one?
vdubguy83 said:
I still didn't root, sorta backed out last night haha. Wouldn't know why I would need to go back to stock once rooted but I guess all is possible. I don't really care about losing my apps, ill just redownload then, its just my pictures and contacts I'm worried about losing. I think I'm going to use bubbys root tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the info. Also there are a bunch of apps I don't use on the phone is there a way to freeze them after root besides getting titanium backup pro? Or does that seem like the best way?
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If you set your contacts to be backed up on google, they will automatically reload for you.
Your pictures should now be on your SD card. If you are going to use that same SD card to make your gold card, then it will indeed need to be formatted and you'd lose whatever is on there, of course. All you have to do is plug the phone in to your computer, mount as disk drive, and make a folder on your computer, and copy the SD cards contents (or just the pictures, if you want) to your hard drive.
When your done, you can put it all back.
The only thing you will lose unavoidably is any app-specific data that you would need to have root to back up (game scores, etc.)
Once rooted even this data will be able to be accessed from that point forward... You won't even lose that, again... Its just the initial act of gaining root, that you're faced with a one-time loss of specific data.
Nearly everything else can be backed up "in the cloud" via Google or moved someplace else by you temporarily.
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Ok thanks for the info. Ill make sure to back my pics and contacts up some way before I root.
Bubbys one click on the phone at a point and when you get the error are you sure you have the sync drivers I selected the sync option on the usb connection manager.them switched back after .. I had to do it twice but good know
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vdubguy83 said:
Ok thanks for the info. Ill make sure to back my pics and contacts up some way before I root.
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As long as your contacts are Google based and/or you have your phone set to "backup your settings on Google," you shouldnt have to worry about contacts.
If you aren't sure log in to the full gmail in a browser and check to see if your contacts are visible there. If they are, you're good.
I haven't even thought about my contacts over the span of 4 Android phones, several roots, and a couple of custom Rom flashes... They just magically re-appear... Thanks to Google.
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Even though I am new to this forum, I rooted my Inspire 4g using Ace-Hack-Kit v9 without a clue to what it was actually doing in each step. Needless to say, it was very discomforting at a thought of bricking my phone. But since then, I have been through turning off the eng-s then going back to stock again to turn back the eng-s again using the v9. Now, since I know what each step of the v9 is doing, I am more comfortable using it then the newer automated v10 or the v11 (if it ain't broke, why change). And, I hate to repeat above post, but I have tried no less than 7 roms since the root. And thanks to the Google’s backup option, other than the saved games and such, all of my apps and the contact information were automatically reinstalled through wifi within an hour of connection (I did have to import my outlook contact into Gmail account first). So I never bother with a backup especially I really don't have anything on this phone to miss (didn't have the phone long enough).
I just recently purchased rom manager premium and havent been backing up and restoring as often as I am now as I'm trying CM7 Nightlies almost daily. I havent had to restore until today as I didnt like the dl/ul speed I was getting with the latest cm7. The last backup I did as my latest ones has been when I updated cm7 and rom manager asked if I wanted to make a backup before installing the latest cm7 and I would choose yes. When I restored today I noticed it didnt remember all my settings, some apps were missing, I had to sign in to my google account again, and I had to restore some system settings/contacts/bookmarks etc etc..I almost doubted I had restored to my previous backup but the build.prop still had the changes I had made and my dl/ul speed was good.
I guess my question is, should I be making my backups directly with clockworkmod to avoid this. The reason I ask is when I've used clockworkmod to make backups and restore in the past it would put back the rom with all my apps/settings exactly the way I left without me having to set everything back up again. Not sure what I'm missing, or has something changed with backups using either of these tools? Maybe I'm just doing it wrong?
nandroid backups aren't always perfect. I've run into issues from backing up both ways. for instance one time I restored a backup and my statusbar was completely missing. It may be placebo effect but I personally have run into less issues backing up and restoring from cwm. just my .02 cents
Dude what gives!? I'm baffled - I swore I posted on this thread - twice!? I'm Losing It Guys...
What I thought I wrote was I had noticed that too and went to test it out. It got me curious. Well what I realized when I went to ROM manager to make a backup was that though we name it from there, all the magic happens in recovery. I am gonna go out on a limb and say that it wouldn't matter which you use, as they are the same. ROM Manager essentially boots into recovery. And I'm not positive but doesn't it restart into recovery? And rebooting into recovery powers you off, then into recovery - where you have to work over to it, but all in all - It's actually only recovery that creates the backup. The one difference is I notice every now and then Thru Rom manager my phone just reboots. So when I put it down and let it do its thing, I've learned to be sure the backup was created.
I came back to see.if there was any more insight into this.... And my posts were gone? Am I trippin????
Edit: yeah I checked the time of OP and I'm positive I did. Even came back and the second post I talked about the recovery doing all the work..... Wild ....
Yes you are. It's time to take another break.
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Yes you are. It's time to take another break.
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LMAO! Wolf - I just don't know. I mean I edited the first post even. It is that time though - and I found out were moving this weekend. So wifey has me a big ole to do list..... Crazy cooter busted me today. Smart pants got online herself, made an account - boom. This user is currently viewing .......
But baby, when I start my internet my home page is XDA! So if its not off, of course it shows me....
Edit: My phone has literally been buggin. wondering if its Rom related, or if I might need to unroot. And start over. Heard it helps. Ok - back to Rom manager
yeah dyliho is right either way u look at it recovery is backing it up. my train of thought it why not go straight to recovery and avoid the middleman (rom manager) and u would think there would be less problems. like I said could be pure coincedince but I have run into less issues just doing it from recovery
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Im not sure at this point but I'm definitely backing up the long way into recovery.
I like to give them names like bob or sue. You can't do that from the disco. LOL.
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Not sure if these are CM issues or HTC's crappy hardware issues, but...
1. When I try to turn on the screen using either the top button or bottom trackpad button, the screen will flash on for a second and then go off again. It will do this two or three times until the screen stays on at the lock screen. Didn't do this before CM, but also didn't start until months after I modded to CM.
2. When using the on screen keyboard(in vertical mode) sometimes it's like the touchscreen is responding very slowly to my taps and CERTAIN KEYS will not work at all. So I'll be typing and the keyboard will be kinda sluggish and suddenly I'll notice that none of the a's I'm hitting are registering. I'll hit the area of the screen over the "a" key and the surrounding keys will register but not "a". I will usually have to turn the screen off and then back on before it starts working again. I think it did this the first time before I modded, but can't quite remember.
Anyone else having these problems?
The first problem has happened before on some roms.
I don't recommend using CM 7, its old, outdated and hasn't been fully patched.
I had that same touch keyboard issue with my HTC EVO shift and my HTC Inspire....an of course all my phones were on different ROMS
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The first issue... are you oc? If so how much? Really no need to oc this phone. Also, it could be a wake issue, if you are underclocked to much, there is a minimum amount that sometimes has to be higher on some phones than others.
It seems to me these could be kernel issues.
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mrbmg said:
The first issue... are you oc? If so how much? Really no need to oc this phone. Also, it could be a wake issue, if you are underclocked to much, there is a minimum amount that sometimes has to be higher on some phones than others.
It seems to me these could be kernel issues.
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Unless CM over or under clocks by default, then no changes in cpu.
You should run the HTC stock software for a few days or a week to see if the problems you have are persistant across ROMs, or something specific to your current software package.
Just a thought.
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Blue6IX said:
You should run the HTC stock software for a few days or a week to see if the problems you have are persistant across ROMs, or something specific to your current software package.
Just a thought.
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Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I also use my phone for business and switching between roms is kinda disruptive, so I haven't done that yet. Hoping for more feedback from others.
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Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I also use my phone for business and switching between roms is kinda disruptive, so I haven't done that yet. Hoping for more feedback from others.
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Yea, that is something that impacts us all. I could get a lot more dev done if I didn't have to have my plan phone set and ready a specific way each shift to be able to do my job the way i'm expected to.
Best bet would be to wait until you had a day or two off, maybe a weekend or something and when you finish with your obligations before that free time starts:
-try to have near to a full battery or a full one waiting.
Installing a new ROM always works better with a full battery on install, so if you can already be at that step you can start right away instead of waiting for it.
-Make a clockworkmod backup of your device as it sits, and copy that backup to a computer somewhere.
-Get all the ROM files you need to re-install it in a folder with that clockworkmod backup you just made. When you go to put the phone back together to go back to work, if the backup doesn't work for some reason you can at least install fresh and go from there.
-On that note, backup all your apps too. If you do end up having to re-install your ROM you are running right now, being able to install all the apps right away again off the sdcard saves a lot of time and hassle.
Make sure to get those apps backed up to a computer too.
-backup all your contacts. Export everything you can to the sdcard, and then copy that to the computer too.
-Make sure you have all the passwords and account names you need for anything you have installed. (Gmail(s) - Games - accounts tied to apps or services you use)
If you do have to reinstall everything, and you use internet services like dropbox or an internet faxing service you don't want to have to track down those logins if you don't type them often. Make sure you check all your apps and write them down ahead of time.
-Lastly, since you are on CM7, use titanium backup to backup everything and copy that also to the folder on the computer. The word backup in the computer industry is synonymous with redundant, and if it's not you're doing it wrong.
The reason why I said to copy all these backups off the phone and onto a computer is because if something catastrophically bad happens to the phone then what?
By catastrophically bad I mean you format the sdcard by mistake on a factory reset while you're playing with different ROMs - what then?
If you do need the device for work, and you are serious about trying to test the errors against being a phone-specific hardware issue or a software issue with the ROM you are using, then jogging your process by putting this all out there might help you get started.
When you get that downtime, you'll know ahead of time so you can prepare, and then when it hits you have an immediate plan of action to put into place to maximise the time you get for testing.
Also, have the ROM you want to put on it ready to go, and if possible alternates to that - so research the 3 software versions available from HTC for the device.
Also become familiar with this process:
Restore to stock
...maybe download all 3 software versions before your free time hits so you have them already. If everything goes sideways you can always use one of them to restore the device.
If you are S-OFF you have nothing to worry about for doing any of the software updates unless you manually re-lock the device, so just don't do that and you'll be fine.
If you are S-ON speak up and i'll lay out your possible headaches along the way and what we know about them if someone else doesn't first.
If you have prepped before the free time hits:
1 - passwords/account info written down and at the computer you'll be using...
2 - all software packages (restore files, roms, anything else...) that you need downloaded and on the computer you'll be using...
3 - all the apps you use backed up and on the computer you'll be using...
4 - any media like pictures and music or anything else backed up to the computer you'll be using...
5 - a full battery or close to ...
...you are still looking at almost an hours worth of backup time to do the clockworkmod backup, titanium backup, transfer them to the computer, and then you might run a little over that time when you test the clockworkmod backup.
( you always test the backup - the only thing worse then not having a backup is having a corrupt one you thought was good )
...which cuts into your time testing the other ROM enough as it is, but if you aren't ready to do it like this it will take significantly longer.
Since you'll know when the time hits getting a majority of the media, pictures and user generated stuff plus most (if not all) of the apps you use backup up the day before helps cut down on a lot, but that hour is still lost to making a way of putting it back together again.
You also need to leave yourself a solid 4 hours to put the machine back to the way it is before you started on the other side. Again, on install, you want to have a full battery so plan for that too.
4 hours gives you enough time to get everything slapped together from a fresh CM7 install and manually doing all your apps and setting up the phone for work, if the CWM backup fails for some reason and you have to start over.
I just want to see everyone have their phones running right, and if it's a hardware issue then you should get it repaired, if it's a software issue then you should seek a solution - but the quickest way to a result, and the one for your issue, is to directly test it yourself.
Since you sounded like you came to that conclusion too, your only issue now is squeezing it into a time slot you can get so don't hesitate if you have questions on the processes involved.
Edit - also:
If you have multiple MicroSD cards you could use for this, then you can save a lot more time.
You could take the one you have in there now out, and put it to the side so that when you installed your work setup again the memory card and all it's stuff is right there.
Then you could take different memory cards and have them pre-made to what you need, so as soon as you are done backups you power off and swap memory cards.
First one you swap in has the PG59IMG.zip restore file (and nothing else) renamed that way and ready to go, so when you power back on to hboot that installs itself and you save the time spent copying that over before you can install it.
When that finishes, you are back to stock and ready to go, and you didn't change any of the info on your work sdcard.
Something to think about, if work stuff is that important that's what i'd do (and what I do myself, so thought to add it)
Wow Blue, thank you for taking the time to respond. I think I will have some time this weekend to give this a shot. I am S-OFF. And you're right, as long as you plan everything ahead and allow for the time to get set back up, it's not too bad. I'm just trying to decide what rom to try switch to. I really hate sense, so I don't really wanna go back to stock. Wish there was a good stable vanilla to use. Any thoughts?
Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
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Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
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I don't even know what radio I'm on that's a sad thing...but yeah once you update your radio, no Rom will overwrite the radio unless it somehow has one in it you know...
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Wow Blue, thank you for taking the time to respond. I think I will have some time this weekend to give this a shot. I am S-OFF. And you're right, as long as you plan everything ahead and allow for the time to get set back up, it's not too bad. I'm just trying to decide what rom to try switch to. I really hate sense, so I don't really wanna go back to stock. Wish there was a good stable vanilla to use. Any thoughts?
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My pleasure, it's what makes XDA work - people taking time to share what they've learned so others can benefit from or add to the knowledge.
If you are trying to bug-check, honestly, the stock official ROM is a good one to use. It's not something you are so much doing to enjoy the phone, as much as to check on a specific aspect of it.
Further, you are already halfway home on putting the phone back to factory settings if it is a hardware issue, so then you just have to S-ON it and send it in for repair - though you probably won't get it back with S-OFF ability, you will at least be able to unlock it.
Just from directly developing things for the device, and having to go through these testing procedures time and again, I try to set the process up to keep moving, so by going to bone stock if it is broken you already have taken steps to make it what it has to be to send it in, the next looming goal if you aren't going to restore to your work setup.
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Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
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This was just answered above me, but you can always go back to previous radio installs if you are S-OFF...but only if S-OFF.
I've run Bulletproof on the new radio and it runs fine, so doesn't matter either way on that one - other ROMs you'll have to ask the author.
ROMs can update the radio, or only work on specific ones, but for our device I don't think it's been an issue yet, pretty sure everything works with everything on that part.
Hey all,
I got my phone when it came out, a couple of years ago. I'm running firmware version 2.2.1, baseband version i510.06.ED1 and kernel version 2.6.32.9
Soon after I got the phone, it started to run slowly, and I wanted to root it anyway so that I could use it to tether and get rid of the bloatwear, so I rooted it and installed the VooDoo lagfix and I think that's about it.
Well, now I'm here two years later and my phone hasn't been updated in years and runs like crap. I haven't kept up with anything that has happened with this or any other phone in the last two years, but I want to try to salvage it by trying to wipe it and start over from scratch. I don't need it to be super modded, or anything. To be honest, I just want it to run fast. 1x and 3g both no longer work, only 4g. The Launcher (LauncherPro) crashes constantly. Dialing a number takes 30 seconds or more sometimes. The phone locks up constantly and no matter what keyboard I use, it locks up while typing, stuttering and so on.
Anyhow, the long and short of it is that the phone is effed and I don't want to have to get a CS degree to fix it. This forum is so full of information now, it's hard to know where to start. Can anyone bang out some advice on what steps I should take to wipe it and start over with something a bit more robust? I'm pretty sure I have to disable VooDoo Lagfix before I wipe it, but beyond that, I don't know. Can I just disable VooDoo and do a stock factory reset? Will that fix anything, or is there some better way to end up with a clean phone that's bound to run better?
Thanks a lot,
sounds like you are several builds/kernels behind. start with this thread - should be a one-stop shop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244704
my advice is to make a backup of your apps and system data via Titanium Backup, do a hard reset (do NOT wipe/clear your SD card), take the OTA updates (should bring you all the way up to date), and then re-root. if need be, use ODIN to flash back to stock. otherwise, I think you would be okay to install the stuff mentioned in the thread I linked.
Or you can flash the Odins from my thread - it's the same thing but can be flashed from stock.
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